Nice to see Touch Bar improvements: Thank you!
Be nice if the "open recent project" touch bar button _closed_ this window if touched while window is already open.
Can touch bar icons respond to which window is frontmost?
If so, it would be helpful when the Find window is frontmost, to have 1. A touch icon for the "regex" check box (what is the short cut for that?) 2. Tie the “<" and “>" touch icons to window "previous" and "next" buttons.
Having a touch icon to select surrounding braces {} for selecting surrounding braces would be useful.
Having touch icons for "the Ts" would be helpful: 1. a touch bar icon ("fun”?) for cmd-cntr-T ("Select bundle item") 2. a touch bar icon "TODO" for cntrl-shift-T (TODO list) 3. a touch bar icon "symbol" for cmd-shift-T (symbol jump)
Best, tim
On 18 Aug 2019, at 16:49, Ronald Wampler rdwampler@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 6:14 PM Curt Sellmer sellmerfud@gmail.com wrote:
I have been playing with the touchbar support in texmate and have noticed the following.
If I set bookmarks in my document the touchbar buttons with up/down chevrons will correctly take me to the previous or next bookmark respectively.
However, if I make a change to the document and save it. I now get a change marker showing that it is different than what is in the git repository. That is to be expected.
But now the up/down buttons on the touchbar stop at all of the git markers as well as the bookmarks. Is this by design?
Yeah, I wanted to make it easier to navigate other marks (not necessary the git markers) without adding yet another up/down arrows button in the Touch Bar. But, I agree it probably should have been just to navigate the bookmarks. I'll submit a PR to change the behavior.
It makes jumping back and forth between a couple of bookmarks painful if there are a lot of edits in the file.
I can still hold down the fn button and use F2/Shift F2 to achieve this, but that sort of defeats the purpose of having the nifty touch bar buttons.
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On 27 Aug 2019, at 18:54, Tim Bates wrote:
Nice to see Touch Bar improvements: Thank you!
All work regarding this is done by Ronald Wampler. Personally I do not yet have a machine with touch bar (I know there is a simulator, but on the list of things to work on, I’m afraid touch bar is pretty low).
If so, it would be helpful when the Find window is frontmost, to have
- A touch icon for the "regex" check box (what is the short cut for
that?)
Shortcut for toggling regular expression is ⌥⌘R.
FYI the shortcuts are listed in the Edit → Find → Find Options submenu, although probably not easy to discover.
On 11 May 2020, at 02:07, Allan Odgaard mailinglist@textmate.org wrote:
On 27 Aug 2019, at 18:54, Tim Bates wrote:
Nice to see Touch Bar improvements: Thank you!
All work regarding this is done by Ronald Wampler. Personally I do not yet have a machine with touch bar (I know there is a simulator, but on the list of things to work on, I’m afraid touch bar is pretty low).
If so, it would be helpful when the Find window is frontmost, to have
- A touch icon for the "regex" check box (what is the short cut for that?)
Shortcut for toggling regular expression is ⌥⌘R. FYI the shortcuts are listed in the Edit → Find → Find Options submenu, although probably not easy to discover.
Thanks, Adding tooltips to the find dialog and elsewhere would fix this and make like much easier for many users like me who haven’t discovered these.
t
Just thinking out loud here:
What about that thing some editors do where they put a new tip on new documents? Anything to improve discoverability of these sorts of features.
That sort of thing would require an extra layer of rendering for documents, right? Maybe if that feature were added it could be used for other features, like (although I'm not personally a fan of this) how other editors can show you the [blame for current line on the line](https://dcv19h61vib2d.cloudfront.net/thumbs/scikit-learn-get-git-blame-insig...
Cheers, Graham
On 15 May 2020, at 6:49, Timothy Bates wrote:
On 11 May 2020, at 02:07, Allan Odgaard mailinglist@textmate.org wrote:
On 27 Aug 2019, at 18:54, Tim Bates wrote:
Nice to see Touch Bar improvements: Thank you!
All work regarding this is done by Ronald Wampler. Personally I do not yet have a machine with touch bar (I know there is a simulator, but on the list of things to work on, I’m afraid touch bar is pretty low).
If so, it would be helpful when the Find window is frontmost, to have
- A touch icon for the "regex" check box (what is the short cut
for that?)
Shortcut for toggling regular expression is ⌥⌘R. FYI the shortcuts are listed in the Edit → Find → Find Options submenu, although probably not easy to discover.
Thanks, Adding tooltips to the find dialog and elsewhere would fix this and make like much easier for many users like me who haven’t discovered these.
t
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On 15 May 2020, at 22:18, Graham Heath wrote:
Just thinking out loud here:
What about that thing some editors do where they put a new tip on new documents? Anything to improve discoverability of these sorts of features.
TextMate 1 actually had a “tip of the day” which some have said they missed (I did it back then to compensate for lack of a manual).
For keyboard shortcuts though, I think the aim should be to have them present somewhere, not as “tips”, for example if you open the pop-up menus in the Find window, you see several convenient keys, like the “in” pop-up menu show ⌘F / ⇧⌘F to toggle between document/folder search, ⌘[ for [back in] “recent places”, ⌘↑ for “enclosing folder”, and the action pop-up show ⌥⌘1 to collapse/expand all results (same shortcut as collapsing foldings), ⌘1-⌘n to jump to the n’th file in folder search results, and the Edit → Find menu show the keys for toggling find options, and ⌥⌘F for “Find All” (using that with a document search will show all results in the find dialog’s list view).
Though currently there is still lack of discoverability in how to use some of the features, for example the “Copy Matching Parts” can be extremely useful, but I reckon many users are probably unaware of it, and doing regular expression searches allow some pretty powerful replacements with TextMate’s replacement format string (which allow substitutions in matched parts), or when it is useful to use ⌘E with multiple selections before doing a search, etc.
But for this, I think we need screencasts to show workflows, not just put up a tip.
So what I have been thinking about is to re-introduce the tip of the day, but with embedded videos.
Right now though my focus is elsewhere, but (lack of) discoverability is definitely on my mind, as I do think many users are missing a lot of powerful features / workflows, especially with stuff “hidden” away in the bundles.
On that note, while I have never been satisfied with the bundle editor of TextMate 2, it has recently become obvious to me that it affects my own motivation to fix/improve bundle items: This definitely needs to improve.
On 16 May 2020, at 03:07, Allan Odgaard mailinglist@textmate.org wrote:
For keyboard shortcuts though, I think the aim should be to have them present somewhere, not as “tips”
There’s some blank space to the right of the "options” block of the ⇧⌘F window. Could append the key to the label: Regular Expression (⌥⌘R) Ignore Whitespace Ignore Case (⌥⌘C) Wrap around (⌥⌘A)
(but honestly, a tool-tip is the way to go: the user never accidentally hovers over buttons, and hover-to-learn is instantly memorable without cluttering the display)
For example if you open the pop-up menus in the Find window, you see several convenient keys, like the “in” pop-up menu show ⌘F / ⇧⌘F to toggle between document/folder search, ⌘[ for [back in] “recent places”, ⌘↑ for “enclosing folder”, and the action pop-up show ⌥⌘1 to collapse/expand all results (same shortcut as collapsing foldings), ⌘1-⌘n to jump to the n’th file in folder search results, and the Edit → Find menu show the keys for toggling find options, and ⌥⌘F for “Find All” (using that with a document search will show all results in the find dialog’s list view).
All that information would fit nicely in a “tips" file, which could be added as a 4th column in the "Textmate:About Textmate” window. If it was a git markdown file, it could also be maintained/updated by users.
Though currently there is still lack of discoverability in how to use some of the features, for example the “Copy Matching Parts” can be extremely useful, but I reckon many users are probably unaware of it, and doing regular expression searches allow some pretty powerful replacements with TextMate’s replacement format string (which allow substitutions in matched parts), or when it is useful to use ⌘E with multiple selections before doing a search, etc.
But for this, I think we need screencasts to show workflows, not just put up a tip.
Agreed: Those are complex ideas and a screencast would be great!… I’ve been intrigued reading these options, but saw no way to discover they are or how they would be useful. Perhaps offer a $100 prize for the best screencast uploaded to youtube or similar, and using everything in the find window, inc. arcana like "Copy matching Parts” etc. If one is shy: screencasts with sub titles work nicely and don’t require voice over/synching.
So what I have been thinking about is to re-introduce the tip of the day, but with embedded videos.
Feels like two projects here, One “perfect" (textmate video channel with 100s of items) the other merely useful (4th column called “tips” after the About, Changes, Bundles tabs in the about box which shows up on each new beta.)
On that note, while I have never been satisfied with the bundle editor of TextMate 2, it has recently become obvious to me that it affects my own motivation to fix/improve bundle items: This definitely needs to improve.
Three cheers! LOVE to see this happen! Even the ability to drag items instead of editing UUIDs in plists would be massive!
PS: using the cmd-[ shortcut in the find dialog > 20 times a day! big time saver.
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