I want to know whether someone other than me would like to have a version of TextMate for the iPad? Let me explain: I use TextMate primarily for TeX and some trivial modifications of websites. I could get by with a simple text editor and since the iPad allows one to use an external keyboard, I could type comfortably for hours on it.
Since (as far as I understand) TextMate is very modular and the interface very minimal, one should be able to whip up a nice, clean interface for the iPhone OS?
What do you guys think: have I been caught in Steve's reality distortion field or is there a market for an editor on the iPad?
Max
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Max Lein realoreocookie@gmx.de wrote:
I want to know whether someone other than me would like to have a version of TextMate for the iPad? Let me explain: I use TextMate primarily for TeX and some trivial modifications of websites. I could get by with a simple text editor and since the iPad allows one to use an external keyboard, I could type comfortably for hours on it.
Since (as far as I understand) TextMate is very modular and the interface very minimal, one should be able to whip up a nice, clean interface for the iPhone OS?
What do you guys think: have I been caught in Steve's reality distortion field or is there a market for an editor on the iPad?
I know already several people who'd like to see TextMate or SubEthaEdit for the iPad. But I don't know if the porting is as easy as one thinks. There needs to be a total UI-overhaul (no menubar available and everything else is right now nice for the usage with a mouse but not if you use a touchscreen), then there's the question if TM uses stuff that might not be available in Cocoa Touch.
Niels
On Feb 4, 2010, at 8:36 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:
mouse but not if you use a touchscreen), then there's the question if TM uses stuff that might not be available in Cocoa Touch.
One of the biggest problems would be textmate's reliance on external programs to handle its various bundles. Shell scripting and the like are not available on iPhoneOS, and will not likely be available on the iPad.
On Feb 4, 2010, at 8:40 AM, Dave Carrigan wrote:
One of the biggest problems would be textmate's reliance on external programs to handle its various bundles. Shell scripting and the like are not available on iPhoneOS, and will not likely be available on the iPad.
Also, external bundles in the form of compiled plugins would be out of the question, because iPhoneOS doesn't allow dynamic loading of modules.
How would you do source control or file access? I wont use it unless I can get to my source repositories.
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Dave Carrigan dave@rudedog.org wrote:
On Feb 4, 2010, at 8:40 AM, Dave Carrigan wrote:
One of the biggest problems would be textmate's reliance on external
programs to handle its various bundles. Shell scripting and the like are not available on iPhoneOS, and will not likely be available on the iPad.
Also, external bundles in the form of compiled plugins would be out of the question, because iPhoneOS doesn't allow dynamic loading of modules.
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On Feb 4, 2010, at 8:46 AM, Kyle Leneau wrote:
How would you do source control or file access? I wont use it unless I can get to my source repositories.
That's another example of why I think the iPad is impractical for textmate. The reason we like textmate is its extensibility. Without that, there's nothing left that something like Pages couldn't do just as well. And, due to both technical and political limitations, iPhone (and by extension, iPad) apps are not extendable.
Hi,
Why not have TextMate split into 2 distinct parts.
1. The GUI on the iPad 2. The plugins, files, repository, etc, on a remote server, accessible via SSH
This way you would get best of both worlds.
The iPhone already has SSH, VNC clients etc, which I am sure iPad versions will be created. So another alternative would be to access TextMate remotely.
Regards Matthew Winter
On 05/02/2010, at 3:49 AM, Dave Carrigan wrote:
On Feb 4, 2010, at 8:46 AM, Kyle Leneau wrote:
How would you do source control or file access? I wont use it unless I can get to my source repositories.
That's another example of why I think the iPad is impractical for textmate. The reason we like textmate is its extensibility. Without that, there's nothing left that something like Pages couldn't do just as well. And, due to both technical and political limitations, iPhone (and by extension, iPad) apps are not extendable.
-- Dave Carrigan dave@rudedog.org Seattle, WA, USA
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On Feb 4, 2010, at 8:40 AM, Dave Carrigan wrote:
On Feb 4, 2010, at 8:36 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:
mouse but not if you use a touchscreen), then there's the question if TM uses stuff that might not be available in Cocoa Touch.
One of the biggest problems would be textmate's reliance on external programs to handle its various bundles. Shell scripting and the like are not available on iPhoneOS, and will not likely be available on the iPad.
I live and breathe with TextMate on my Mac, but this is the very reason I haven't even bothered suggesting a TextMate for iPad. Perhaps a TextMate Lite that includes everything but bundle commands? But even that would be a big undertaking that would steal valuable time from TextMate 2 development.
But I have wondered if an all-in-one app like Coda would be ported to iPad; particularly since you could "multitask" within the app itself-- but I don't know how much it relies on shell commands to do what it does.
-Brad
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On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Dave Carrigan wrote:
One of the biggest problems would be textmate's reliance on external programs to handle its various bundles. Shell scripting and the like are not available on iPhoneOS, and will not likely be available on the iPad.
I’m pretty sure a lot of that stuff is there, it just isn’t exposed to end-users. Apple doesn’t allow you to install your own interpreters, but you can use those already on the system. I don’t know if that includes Python, Ruby, PHP, Perl, etc. but it certainly includes at least one shell.
However, as someone else pointed out… What would you edit? The disk/file/folder metaphor basically doesn’t exist in the iPhone/iPad UI. It’s just applications and their data.
Put me down. No bundles needed just basic text editing with support for ftp & sftp to websites.
I don't think this is going to happen anytime soon. I mean taking into consideration the fact that Allan is developing TM 2...
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Ernest Cunningham gmane@ging.co.nz wrote:
Put me down. No bundles needed just basic text editing with support for ftp & sftp to websites.
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