A small enhancement request....
Currently when you open a directory with TM2, it starts with an empty untitled document. If you do not make any changes to this document, then the first time you open another document, the empty one is discarded. Nice.
It would also be nice if there were a setting where when you close the last tab in a window, instead of the entire window closing, a new untitled document was used as a placeholder instead, just as when a folder is originally opened. If you do indeed want to close the entire window then you can use the ⇧⌘W "Close Window" command.
When I finish a task I tend to close the documents that I was working on before starting a new task and I often find myself closing the entire window unnecessarily.
Just a thought.
Thanks, Curt
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Especially the "cmd-w, oooh crap I closed it all again……." is annoying.
Rolf
On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Curt Sellmer wrote:
A small enhancement request....
Currently when you open a directory with TM2, it starts with an empty untitled document. If you do not make any changes to this document, then the first time you open another document, the empty one is discarded. Nice.
It would also be nice if there were a setting where when you close the last tab in a window, instead of the entire window closing, a new untitled document was used as a placeholder instead, just as when a folder is originally opened. If you do indeed want to close the entire window then you can use the ⇧⌘W "Close Window" command.
When I finish a task I tend to close the documents that I was working on before starting a new task and I often find myself closing the entire window unnecessarily.
Just a thought.
Thanks, Curt
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Similar to this, having opened a directory, an untitled doc is shown. Click on a file which doesn't have a bundle for it, and it will ask you to pick one. Click "Cancel" i.e. to cancel the opening of the file, and the whole window closes. *This* is annoying :-)
David.
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Rolf Langenhuijzen < rolf.langenhuijzen@xs4all.nl> wrote:
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Especially the "cmd-w, oooh crap I closed it all again……." is annoying.
Rolf
On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Curt Sellmer wrote:
A small enhancement request....
Currently when you open a directory with TM2, it starts with an empty untitled document. If you do not make any changes to this document, then the first time you open another document, the empty one is discarded. Nice.
It would also be nice if there were a setting where when you close the last tab in a window, instead of the entire window closing, a new untitled document was used as a placeholder instead, just as when a folder is originally opened. If you do indeed want to close the entire window then you can use the ⇧⌘W "Close Window" command.
When I finish a task I tend to close the documents that I was working on before starting a new task and I often find myself closing the entire window unnecessarily.
Just a thought.
Thanks, Curt
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On 28 Feb 2012, at 21:38, Curt Sellmer wrote:
When I finish a task I tend to close the documents that I was working on before starting a new task and I often find myself closing the entire window unnecessarily.
You can option click on close tab to close all other tabs, more a workaround than a solution I suppose (and it requires mousing), but might help...
On Feb 28, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Curt Sellmer wrote:
It would also be nice if there were a setting where when you close the last tab in a window, instead of the entire window closing, a new untitled document was used as a placeholder instead, just as when a folder is originally opened.
+1
In the meantime, you can use the File → Open Recent menu item to semi-quickly reopen the thing. (Or right-arrow into TextMate using Quicksilver.)
On 2/29/12 5:13 AM, Rob McBroom wrote:
On Feb 28, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Curt Sellmer wrote:
It would also be nice if there were a setting where when you close the last tab in a window, instead of the entire window closing, a new untitled document was used as a placeholder instead, just as when a folder is originally opened.
+1
In the meantime, you can use the File → Open Recent menu item to semi-quickly reopen the thing. (Or right-arrow into TextMate using Quicksilver.)
Thank you, Rob for pointing out this quick recovery.
FWICT, when TM2 is launched from the command line on a directory, the window we are looking at is an untitled document window as opposed to an empty file browser window. That's the crux of the issue, right? If you close the last document window then the file browser goes with it, because the file browser is an accessory to the document window as opposed to being a standalone file browser.
This is a usability issue as I may never be able to prevent myself from closing a document window. Even when clicking on the close icon in the browser's file list, the browser is closed with it. I wonder how the TM2 Jedi Council will decide what will be the final behavior? Perhaps the most logical thing for TM2 to do is to open an Untitled document window if the file browser is in use and the last document window is closed.
-AZ
Or it could be a Dashboard with some usage statistics - time spent using your 'favorite' languages, most accessed commands, frequently used keyboard shortcuts, number of bundles installed, etc.
Just a random thought I had - could be cool!
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On Friday, May 4, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Artie Ziff wrote:
On 2/29/12 5:13 AM, Rob McBroom wrote:
On Feb 28, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Curt Sellmer wrote:
It would also be nice if there were a setting where when you close the last tab in a window, instead of the entire window closing, a new untitled document was used as a placeholder instead, just as when a folder is originally opened.
+1 In the meantime, you can use the File → Open Recent menu item to semi-quickly reopen the thing. (Or right-arrow into TextMate using Quicksilver.)
Thank you, Rob for pointing out this quick recovery. FWICT, when TM2 is launched from the command line on a directory, the window we are looking at is an untitled document window as opposed to an empty file browser window. That's the crux of the issue, right? If you close the last document window then the file browser goes with it, because the file browser is an accessory to the document window as opposed to being a standalone file browser. This is a usability issue as I may never be able to prevent myself from closing a document window. Even when clicking on the close icon in the browser's file list, the browser is closed with it. I wonder how the TM2 Jedi Council will decide what will be the final behavior? Perhaps the most logical thing for TM2 to do is to open an Untitled document window if the file browser is in use and the last document window is closed. -AZ _______________________________________________ textmate mailing list textmate@lists.macromates.com (mailto:textmate@lists.macromates.com) http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate
I *vote* for the empty space, since it's the "project" that somehow is open and not a particular file.
Opening an untitled doc again on the contrary feels a bit confusing to me. More a workaround than a solution…
(for the nostalgic a giant TextMate icon is also acceptable)
Elia
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On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Brandon Fryslie bmf@matewiki.com wrote:
Or it could be a Dashboard with some usage statistics - time spent using your 'favorite' languages, most accessed commands, frequently used keyboard shortcuts, number of bundles installed, etc.
Just a random thought I had - could be cool!
-- Brandon Fryslie http://www.MateWiki.com - A TextMate 2 Wiki
On Friday, May 4, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Artie Ziff wrote:
On 2/29/12 5:13 AM, Rob McBroom wrote:
On Feb 28, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Curt Sellmer wrote:
It would also be nice if there were a setting where when you close the last tab in a window, instead of the entire window closing, a new untitled document was used as a placeholder instead, just as when a folder is originally opened.
+1
In the meantime, you can use the File → Open Recent menu item to semi-quickly reopen the thing. (Or right-arrow into TextMate using Quicksilver.)
Thank you, Rob for pointing out this quick recovery.
FWICT, when TM2 is launched from the command line on a directory, the window we are looking at is an untitled document window as opposed to an empty file browser window. That's the crux of the issue, right? If you close the last document window then the file browser goes with it, because the file browser is an accessory to the document window as opposed to being a standalone file browser.
This is a usability issue as I may never be able to prevent myself from closing a document window. Even when clicking on the close icon in the browser's file list, the browser is closed with it. I wonder how the TM2 Jedi Council will decide what will be the final behavior? Perhaps the most logical thing for TM2 to do is to open an Untitled document window if the file browser is in use and the last document window is closed.
-AZ
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I agree, it just feels like what you expect.
If you want to go fancy and there's an internet connection then show latest news or a feed from this list.
But an empty space.. ++
Elia Schito schreef op 2012-05-11 00:36:
I _vote_ for the empty space, since it's the
"project" that somehow is open and not a particular file.
Opening an
untitled doc again on the contrary feels a bit confusing to me.
More
a workaround than a solution…
(for the nostalgic a giant TextMate
icon is also acceptable)
Elia
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elia@schito.me [7] (gtalk)
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On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Brandon Fryslie
<bmf@matewiki.com [9]> wrote:
Or it could be a Dashboard with some
usage statistics - time spent using your 'favorite' languages, most accessed commands, frequently used keyboard shortcuts, number of bundles installed, etc.
Just a random thought I had - could be cool!
Hello...
Is it possible your expectation is based on a perspective that you have a project document? We may see different things when looking at the same thing. :) So, if we approach it as a project window then it is reasonable that you expect to see project-window-like things. On the contrary, I see the object as an untitled window with a drawer that displays a file browser. My suggestion was designed to be consistent with the paradigm that Allan has already established. Please note that I am not debating the issue... :) I merely want to point out a detail... so as to be informative: What happens when the User invokes the following:
mate dir
where dir is a directory of files in the CWD.
The result is an untitled document window with a drawer that displays a file browser. I was suggesting to simply go to that initial state.
Happy Friday! AZ
On 5/10/12 11:59 PM, Rolf Langenhuijzen wrote:
I agree, it just feels like what you expect.
If you want to go fancy and there's an internet connection then show latest news or a feed from this list.
But an empty space.. ++
Elia Schito schreef op 2012-05-11 00:36:
I /vote/ for the empty space, since it's the "project" that somehow is open and not a particular file.
Opening an untitled doc again on the contrary feels a bit confusing to me. More a workaround than a solution… (for the nostalgic a giant TextMate icon is also acceptable)
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I tend to agree and looked again at TM1. Indeed an untitled window would be good as you described, you sort of can expect an untitled document that would be saved to the (project) dir in the drawer by default when you save it.
Rolf
Hello...
Is it possible your expectation is based on a perspective that you have a project document? We may see different things when looking at the same thing. :) So, if we approach it as a project window then it is reasonable that you expect to see project-window-like things. On the contrary, I see the object as an untitled window with a drawer that displays a file browser. My suggestion was designed to be consistent with the paradigm that Allan has already established. Please note that I am not debating the issue... :) I merely want to point out a detail... so as to be informative: What happens when the User invokes the following:
mate dir
where dir is a directory of files in the CWD.
The result is an untitled document window with a drawer that displays a file browser. I was suggesting to simply go to that initial state.
Happy Friday! AZ
On 5/10/12 11:59 PM, Rolf Langenhuijzen wrote:
I agree, it just feels like what you expect.
If you want to go fancy and there's an internet connection then show latest news or a feed from this list.
But an empty space.. ++
Elia Schito schreef op 2012-05-11 00:36:
I /vote/ for the empty space, since it's the "project" that somehow is open and not a particular file.
Opening an untitled doc again on the contrary feels a bit confusing to me. More a workaround than a solution⦠(for the nostalgic a giant TextMate icon is also acceptable)
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I see what you say, but I still feel differently, here is why:
I think that the untitled file would be acceptable for non-project dirs, but we have a case in which a dir is tagged as a project (projectDirectory = "$CWD"). At least for those dirs make sense to me that they are treated as projects. Also with "mate ~/some-dir/" I'm explicitly targeting some dir rather than opening TM from a location ("mate -d some_dir/").
Also the untitled document seems more appropriate when I use the mate command with no options (and we can set good defaults for that, as the "[ attr.untitled ] fileType = 'source.ruby'"). For other cases I usually know in advance both the filename (with its extension) and the location and I can type "mate lib/another_library.rb" directly (for the same reason I'm being slowed by the CMD+ALT+N CMD+S approach).
Of course the point is not a technical solution to support the emtpy/non-empty window (which is possiblehttps://github.com/elia/avian-missing.tmbundle#new-file-⌃⌘nin both cases), but its sensible design.
My 2¢ :) Happy weekend!
Elia
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On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Rolf Langenhuijzen < rolf.langenhuijzen@xs4all.nl> wrote:
I tend to agree and looked again at TM1. Indeed an untitled window would be good as you described, you sort of can expect an untitled document that would be saved to the (project) dir in the drawer by default when you save it.
Rolf
Hello...
Is it possible your expectation is based on a perspective that you have a project document? We may see different things when looking at the same thing. :) So, if we approach it as a project window then it is reasonable that you expect to see project-window-like things. On the contrary, I see the object as an untitled window with a drawer that displays a file browser. My suggestion was designed to be consistent with the paradigm that Allan has already established. Please note that I am not debating the issue... :) I merely want to point out a detail... so as to be informative: What happens when the User invokes the following:
mate dir
where dir is a directory of files in the CWD.
The result is an untitled document window with a drawer that displays a file browser. I was suggesting to simply go to that initial state.
Happy Friday! AZ
On 5/10/12 11:59 PM, Rolf Langenhuijzen wrote:
I agree, it just feels like what you expect.
If you want to go fancy and there's an internet connection then show latest news or a feed from this list.
But an empty space.. ++
Elia Schito schreef op 2012-05-11 00:36:
I /vote/ for the empty space, since it's the "project" that somehow is open and not a particular file.
Opening an untitled doc again on the contrary feels a bit confusing to me. More a workaround than a solution… (for the nostalgic a giant TextMate icon is also acceptable)
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I agree that this would be nice. Unintentionally closing the window has happened to me a few times, and always causes a "wait, what?" moment.
On Feb 28, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Curt Sellmer sellmerfud@gmail.com wrote:
A small enhancement request....
Currently when you open a directory with TM2, it starts with an empty untitled document. If you do not make any changes to this document, then the first time you open another document, the empty one is discarded. Nice.
It would also be nice if there were a setting where when you close the last tab in a window, instead of the entire window closing, a new untitled document was used as a placeholder instead, just as when a folder is originally opened. If you do indeed want to close the entire window then you can use the ⇧⌘W "Close Window" command.
When I finish a task I tend to close the documents that I was working on before starting a new task and I often find myself closing the entire window unnecessarily.
Just a thought.
Thanks, Curt
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On 29/02/2012, at 04.38, Curt Sellmer wrote:
A small enhancement request […]
From http://wiki.macromates.com/FAQ/TextMate2
When I close the final tab in a window the entire window closes, is there a way to change/stop this?
This is a common request and is likely to change in a future build.
We are also aware of the issues with canceling a file open with no other tabs open.
yea- I remember reading about it somewhere. thanks for the reminder.. it's no biggy though
On Feb 29, 2012, at 3:02 PM, Allan Odgaard wrote:
On 29/02/2012, at 04.38, Curt Sellmer wrote:
A small enhancement request […]
From http://wiki.macromates.com/FAQ/TextMate2
When I close the final tab in a window the entire window closes, is there a way to change/stop this?
This is a common request and is likely to change in a future build.
We are also aware of the issues with canceling a file open with no other tabs open.
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