Wouldn't it be reasonable to combine these both panels into single panel with single ⇧⌘O shortcut?
--Adam
On 23 Jun 2014, at 23:35, Adam Strzelecki wrote:
Wouldn't it be reasonable to combine these both panels into single panel with single ⇧⌘O shortcut?
I like to have different keys to get to the project versus file chooser. With a combined panel it would be ⇧⌘O potentially followed by ⌘1-n for the proper list, right? Could of course still have two keys similar to ⌘F and ⇧⌘F (which open same window but with different source selection).
I do like the idea from a discoverability point of view (I wonder how many have actually noticed the “recent projects” panel).
With 5 lists it does get a little crowded:
1. Recent documents 2. Recent projects 3. Open documents 4. Documents with (SCM) changes 5. Favorites
Not sure if we can drop favorites — to be honest, this is a somewhat arcane feature and recent projects works better, main advantage of favorites is that they are always there, but could allow pinning recent projects/files, and also that the list can be initially populated (I sync my projects between machines and use a “folder symlink” for favorites, so it list all my projects).
Anyone have thoughts about this?
On 24.06.2014, at 11:10, Allan Odgaard mailinglist@textmate.org wrote:
Not sure if we can drop favorites — to be honest, this is a somewhat arcane feature and recent projects works better, main advantage of favorites is that they are always there, but could allow pinning recent projects/files, and also that the list can be initially populated (I sync my projects between machines and use a “folder symlink” for favorites, so it list all my projects).
Anyone have thoughts about this?
Stopped using Favorites completely after Recent Projects was introduced. Not sure if the two panels should be combined. One is file centric, the other one for folders.
I often quickly open another project to search for, e.g., a code snippet. If they where combined, I would have to press ⌘-T, ⌘-4, search for project name, ⌘-T, ⌘-1, search for file, ⌘-⇧-W - and for the next file I open in my project would be ⌘-T, ⌘-1 again to get back to the file search.
4 additional keys for the same task. But the bigger problem I see is the mental model where I have to check in which kind of ⌘-T-mode I am every time I use it. I almost never use “Open Documents” or “Uncommited Documents” for the same reason. As long as I don’t switch modes, ⌘-T is always “one finger tip” away – which is a good thing.
On 24 Jun 2014, at 07:33, Kai Wood lists@kwood.eu wrote: On 24.06.2014, at 11:10, Allan Odgaard mailinglist@textmate.org wrote:
Not sure if we can drop favorites .. recent projects works better main advantage of favorites is that they are always there, but could allow pinning recent projects/files
That seems like a great argument for replacing favorites: recent <- (pinned + recent) == good!
re merging files and projects, that might be a bridge too far.
The only thing I reflexively miss in ⌘⇧-O and other multi-pane dialogs is ⌘← ⌘→ to supplement ⌘-n (I don't store the tab order in my mind - just visually go to it')
The only thing I reflexively miss in ⌘⇧-O and other multi-pane dialogs is ⌘← ⌘→ to supplement ⌘-n (I don't store the tab order in my mind - just visually go to it')
There's pull request of mine regarding these shortcuts, so hopefully will be there in next alpha/beta release.
--Adam
On 25 Jun 2014, at 19:13, Adam Strzelecki wrote:
The only thing I reflexively miss in ⌘⇧-O and other multi-pane dialogs is ⌘← ⌘→ to supplement ⌘-n (I don't store the tab order in my mind - just visually go to it')
There's pull request of mine regarding these shortcuts, so hopefully will be there in next alpha/beta release.
Just to clarify, the keys to use are ⌘{ and ⌘} and besides file and favorites chooser (starting with next build) these keys work for Preferences and the About window. The goal is to have all “multi-source windows” support both ⌘1-n and ⌘{ / ⌘} to move between “sources”.
For the Find in Folder results only ⌘1-n currently works (to select the n’th file with matches), but I created a note about adding support here as well.
Just to say, for me, with ⌘-T window open, doing ⌘-{ indents the current line in whatever document is "frontmost" (underneath the ⌘-T pane) t On 29 Jun 2014, at 08:47, Allan Odgaard mailinglist@textmate.org wrote:
On 25 Jun 2014, at 19:13, Adam Strzelecki wrote:
The only thing I reflexively miss in ⌘⇧-O and other multi-pane dialogs is ⌘← ⌘→ to supplement ⌘-n (I don't store the tab order in my mind - just visually go to it')
There's pull request of mine regarding these shortcuts, so hopefully will be there in next alpha/beta release.
Just to clarify, the keys to use are ⌘{ and ⌘} and besides file and favorites chooser (starting with next build) these keys work for Preferences and the About window. The goal is to have all “multi-source windows” support both ⌘1-n and ⌘{ / ⌘} to move between “sources”.
For the Find in Folder results only ⌘1-n currently works (to select the n’th file with matches), but I created a note about adding support here as well.
Thought I'd give some feedback on how I use TM...
Not sure if my workflow is typical, but I don't use any of the Favorite features, or even Recent File/Project.
I use Alfred to open all my projects (via mate), and then everything inside TM is done via CMD+T All my git is done via raw commandline, so I don't use the Uncommitted Files tab either.
For the proposed new dialog, I wonder if Recent Projects and Recent Files could be merged into one tab?
The icons will presumably be different anyway (folders vs files), and I'd guess most people are just going to use the search textbox to find the item they want, rather than scroll up and down the list with the mouse. Its hard to say how the majority of people are using TM without some form of a survey I guess.
On 24 June 2014 10:10, Allan Odgaard mailinglist@textmate.org wrote:
On 23 Jun 2014, at 23:35, Adam Strzelecki wrote:
Wouldn't it be reasonable to combine these both panels into single panel
with single ⇧⌘O shortcut?
I like to have different keys to get to the project versus file chooser. With a combined panel it would be ⇧⌘O potentially followed by ⌘1-n for the proper list, right? Could of course still have two keys similar to ⌘F and ⇧⌘F (which open same window but with different source selection).
I do like the idea from a discoverability point of view (I wonder how many have actually noticed the “recent projects” panel).
With 5 lists it does get a little crowded:
- Recent documents
- Recent projects
- Open documents
- Documents with (SCM) changes
- Favorites
Not sure if we can drop favorites — to be honest, this is a somewhat arcane feature and recent projects works better, main advantage of favorites is that they are always there, but could allow pinning recent projects/files, and also that the list can be initially populated (I sync my projects between machines and use a “folder symlink” for favorites, so it list all my projects).
Anyone have thoughts about this?
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