Uhmm.... how do I start column typing? Can't find it in the menu's...
Sorry for something which is probably straightforward, but I really can't seem to find it.
On 12-12-2004 21:25, Joost Schuttelaar wrote:
Uhmm.... how do I start column typing? Can't find it in the menu's...
Sorry for something which is probably straightforward, but I really can't seem to find it.
Hold alt, select the lines you want to column type in and type away.
Jeroen.
On Dec 12, 2004, at 1:48 PM, Jeroen van der Ham wrote:
On 12-12-2004 21:25, Joost Schuttelaar wrote:
Uhmm.... how do I start column typing? Can't find it in the menu's... Sorry for something which is probably straightforward, but I really can't seem to find it.
Hold alt, select the lines you want to column type in and type away.
^^^
That's "option," for us Mac users. :)
Chris
On 13-12-2004 03:55, Chris Thomas wrote:
That's "option," for us Mac users. :)
For reasons I still cannot comprehend, Apple decided that European users need an unusual keyboard configuration.
I have a powerbook and its keyboard does not say "option" on the 'alt' key. Instead it has some undeciferable figure on it that should mean "option". So I'm sorry I called it the 'alt' key, but I forgot the proper name at the time. ;-)
Jeroen.
PS: Other noticeable differences: the ` is located to the left of the Z (there's a §/± key where it should be, which I've never used until now) and the return key is a slim vertical key that requires a lot of practice to hit and you always end up hitting the edge of the keyboard instead.
Oh, and it costs $100 and about 5 weeks to get a 'normal' keyboard.
On Dec 13, 2004, at 9:42, Jeroen van der Ham wrote:
[...] I have a powerbook and its keyboard does not say "option" on the 'alt' key. Instead it has some undeciferable figure on it that should mean "option". So I'm sorry I called it the 'alt' key, but I forgot the proper name at the time. ;-)
I have an older Danish keyboard (december 2001) and a new US keyboard (october 2004), they both spell out “alt” above the ⌥ glyph.
As far as I know the “option” wording is limited to online writings ;)
PS: Other noticeable differences: the ` is located to the left of the Z (there's a §/± key where it should be, which I've never used until now) and the return key is a slim vertical key that requires a lot of practice to hit and you always end up hitting the edge of the keyboard instead.
The new US keyboard I got with my G5 has the tall/big return key and ` placed to the left of z:
Except for the function keys (which I HATE! due to no spacing between them) it's actually identical to my older Danish keyboard -- I was under the impression that US keyboards had the small (one row) return (and one extra key to the right of the ]).
Maybe the difference is more with laptop versus external keyboard than US/Europe (or did I get a European version of the US keyboard?).
On 13-12-2004 10:39, Allan Odgaard wrote:
On Dec 13, 2004, at 9:42, Jeroen van der Ham wrote:
[...] I have a powerbook and its keyboard does not say "option" on the 'alt' key. Instead it has some undeciferable figure on it that should mean "option". So I'm sorry I called it the 'alt' key, but I forgot the proper name at the time. ;-)
I have an older Danish keyboard (december 2001) and a new US keyboard (october 2004), they both spell out “alt” above the ⌥ glyph.
As far as I know the “option” wording is limited to online writings ;)
Indeed, the key also has 'alt' on it. However, the picture on the box of the powerbook has a keyboard which looks like this: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Hardware/Developer_Notes/Macintosh_...
It almost has no glyphs on it at all, even the backspace button says "backspace" ;)
Maybe the difference is more with laptop versus external keyboard than US/Europe (or did I get a European version of the US keyboard?).
While I was browsing the ADC, I also found a picture of the original G5 keyboard layout: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Hardware/Developer_Notes/Macintosh_...
So it seems they either changed it and did not update their documents or you got a European version. (Bit odd they don't document those keyboards for developpers either).
Jeroen.
On Dec 13, 2004, at 11:13, Jeroen van der Ham wrote:
[...] I also found a picture of the original G5 keyboard layout [...] it seems they either changed it and did not update their documents or you got a European version. (Bit odd they don't document those keyboards for developpers either).
Ah yes, seems there is an ANSI, ISO, and JIS variant (of the intl. layout). I found this (about the ISO variant):
Differences from the ANSI keyboard: o The ISO keyboard has an extra key between the left shift key and the Z key. o The arrangement of the return key and the backslash key differs. o The key labeling differs: most keys have symbolic labels, instead of text labels.
I'm puzzled by the ANSI keyboard showing 'delete' as label on what I've always thought was called the backspace key. Maybe that explains why delete results in (if anything) a backspace in most terminals ;)
On 13. Dez 2004, at 12:03, Allan Odgaard wrote:
I'm puzzled by the ANSI keyboard showing 'delete' as label on what I've always thought was called the backspace key. Maybe that explains why delete results in (if anything) a backspace in most terminals ;)
The key that is called "backspace" in PCs (the one that removes a character to the left of the insertion point) is called "delete" on Macs. The key that's called "delete" on PCs (the one that removes a character to the right of the insertion point) is called "forward delete" on Macs.
It wasn't always this way. A Mac Plus, for example, still labels the backspace key as "backspace" (and has no forward-delete key). I'm not sure exactly when Apple changed the names of the keys, but I believe it was with the switch to ADB keyboards on the Mac SE and Mac II in 1987. But I'm not able to locate any suitable photos on Google to confirm this theory.
On 13/12/2004, at 9:13 PM, Jeroen van der Ham wrote:
While I was browsing the ADC, I also found a picture of the original G5 keyboard layout: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Hardware/Developer_Notes/ Macintosh_CPUs-G5/PowerMacG5/3Input-Output/chapter_4_section_9.html#// apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40001397-CH207-CJBGAGEC
That's my exact layout -- I bought mine from an Apple store in Melbourne (Australia) about two months back.
--- Justin French, Indent.com.au justin.french@indent.com.au Web Application Development & Graphic Design
On Dec 13, 2004, at 14:14, Joost Schuttelaar wrote:
Hold alt, select the lines you want to column type in and type away.
Thank you! :) I couldn't find it in the help while searching for 'column ' :)
Another way to get column selection is btw to press and then release the option modifier key while there is a normal selection.
And you're right that this is not in the help -- I may do more of a real help book at a later time when I have an idea of what users expect to find there. I placed most "hidden" informations not covered in the help book in the tip of the day window though (which I think does include column-typing and column-movement also).
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