Allan,
Added a dock menu with New, New Project, and Open….
Thanks so much for adding this! Certainly one of the features I personally missed from SubEthaEdit. With that said, I wonder if it might make sense to make the menu more consistent with SEE? For instance, SEE has "New File" instead of "New". They also use "Open file..." instead of "Open.." IMHO, I think that SEE's wording/ellipses choices look better, but that may be familiarity talking.
The Text -> Change sub menu now also appears in the context menu (when there is a selection). Also, suggestions for spellings no longer appear if the selection contain newlines or tabs (previously it only looked at spaces).
This is also a welcome change. However, I think that instead of "Change", which is ambiguous, you should use "Convert" or "Format" as in the attached Service menus.
Thoughts?
Chris
On Dec 8, 2004, at 19:36, Chris Messina wrote:
Added a dock menu with New, New Project, and Open….
[...] For instance, SEE has "New File" instead of "New". They also use "Open file..." instead of "Open.." IMHO, I think that SEE's wording/ellipses choices look better, but that may be familiarity talking.
I used New and Open because that's what's in the File menu. Does SEE also add the File suffix to these choices? Or perhaps the logic is to add them for the Dock menu because the “File” menu-context is not present!?!
The Text -> Change sub menu now also appears in the context menu [...]
[...] I think that instead of "Change", which is ambiguous, you should use "Convert" or "Format" as in the attached Service menus.
Convert is probably better. I'll change it in the Text menu also then.
Allan Odgaard wrote:
On Dec 8, 2004, at 19:36, Chris Messina wrote:
Added a dock menu with New, New Project, and Open….
[...] For instance, SEE has "New File" instead of "New". They also use "Open file..." instead of "Open.." IMHO, I think that SEE's wording/ellipses choices look better, but that may be familiarity talking.
I used New and Open because that's what's in the File menu. Does SEE also add the File suffix to these choices? Or perhaps the logic is to add them for the Dock menu because the “File” menu-context is not present!?!
I think, as you point out, the logic of adding the word "File" to the conceptually detached dock menu makes sense. Otherwise, you don't know what kind "New" you're creating.
Also, while we're discussing "New Files", it's always unnerved me that the default file name is "untitled.txt" instead of merely "untitled". I think that, again, like SEE, you should use "untitled". After all, the file could become anything and it's just uncomfortable to see a foreign file type chosen for you when there's no reason for it to there.
And finally, I really like SEE's mode menu (attached). I know, I know, you're saying, well why don't you just use SEE?!. Well, I like the speed and /feel/ of TextMate better than SEE (especially the option to turn off anti-aliasing). But I do think that the Coding Monkeys did do a good job in some areas--namely UI. Personally, I always forget where the syntax hilighting menu is located... I usually go to "Text" first and then hop over to "View", but honestly, it doesn't feel at home in either of those menus. Additionally, it can become just a long menu, that perhaps having a Mode menu item would make it not only 100% easier to find, but also easier to use.
HTH,
Chris
On Dec 9, 2004, at 11:07, Chris Messina wrote:
Also, while we're discussing "New Files", it's always unnerved me that the default file name is "untitled.txt" instead of merely "untitled".
I did start out with “untitled” but someone complained about that, and I changed it because I didn't care much at that time. I can change it again ;)
[ mode menu ] I usually go to "Text" first and then hop over to "View", but honestly, it doesn't feel at home in either of those menus.
The view menu is for stuff that relates to the view. So I do think it fits quite well -- and given my recent attempts of actually cutting menus, I'm not going to add a new one just for this option ;)
Long term though, I would prefer to have the syntax menu a popup in the status bar instead, that way it's also visible at all times which mode one is in.
Allan Odgaard wrote:
The view menu is for stuff that relates to the view. So I do think it fits quite well -- and given my recent attempts of actually cutting menus, I'm not going to add a new one just for this option ;)
Long term though, I would prefer to have the syntax menu a popup in the status bar instead, that way it's also visible at all times which mode one is in.
Fair enough. I rallied against the original dirth of menus and have been happy to see them gradually get removed. A status bar solution sounds ideal--I'd love to see that!
Chris
On 9. Dez 2004, at 11:22, Allan Odgaard wrote:
On Dec 9, 2004, at 11:07, Chris Messina wrote:
Also, while we're discussing "New Files", it's always unnerved me that the default file name is "untitled.txt" instead of merely "untitled".
I did start out with “untitled” but someone complained about that, and I changed it because I didn't care much at that time. I can change it again ;)
"untitled" would be the correct window title according to Mac OS X human interface guidelines.
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/ OSXHIGuidelines/XHIGWindows/chapter_8_section_4.html#//apple_ref/doc/ uid/20000961/CHDHBCGE
The b11 menu changes are great--TM feels much more solid now... funny how much credence I give to the design of UI menus...
Anyway, thanks for making these changes. They look great!
Chris
Allan Odgaard wrote:
On Dec 9, 2004, at 11:07, Chris Messina wrote:
Also, while we're discussing "New Files", it's always unnerved me that the default file name is "untitled.txt" instead of merely "untitled".
I did start out with “untitled” but someone complained about that, and I changed it because I didn't care much at that time. I can change it again ;)
[ mode menu ] I usually go to "Text" first and then hop over to "View", but honestly, it doesn't feel at home in either of those menus.
The view menu is for stuff that relates to the view. So I do think it fits quite well -- and given my recent attempts of actually cutting menus, I'm not going to add a new one just for this option ;)
Long term though, I would prefer to have the syntax menu a popup in the status bar instead, that way it's also visible at all times which mode one is in.
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