Just to speak up about this while it's kicking aroud yet again:

As a text snob (as I expect most Mac users and text editor geeks to be), I can't *stand* having anything, let alone text, rendered at non-native resolution on my LCDs. The problem I've always had with this technique is that it's effectively doing just that, by rendering the GUI small and then upscaling it. It's not much different than running your 1440x900 display at 1280x800 -- in other words, it's profoundly painful when compared to proper, native-resolution text and GUI display.

It's a good idea in principle, but I find the artifacts to be SO offputting as to far outweigh the added focus afforded by a more constrained viewing area, sans menu bar, etc.

A real, specially-engineered full screen mode like in Ulysses is a very different animal. I've always wondered, though: is it really the case that you have to use full-screen-mode APIs, and can't just make a window the side of the screen with no boundaries? That would at least get rid of everything but the menu bar, which, for the truly paranoid, could be masked with MenuShade or similar. And the is only equal to about 1.5 lines of text, which is vertical height I'd be perfectly willing to sacrifice, myself, in the interest of dramatically improved simplicity of implementation (and some hope of actually getting this feature). -jrk

On 5/22/06, Michael Daines michael.daines@gmail.com wrote:

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I don't know if this will be of interest to users of TxtMt but some users like a text editor to be able to go into full-screen mode.

Here's a post that talks about "faking" this:

http://www.43folders.com/2006/04/17/fsm2-electric-boogaloo/

-- Michael Daines http://www.mdaines.com

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On 2006-05-22 09:16:07 -0700, Anthony Baker wrote:

Merlin Mann of 43 Folders fame has a workaround for this on OS X using a couple of freeware apps. I've tried it and it works nicely.

http://www.43folders.com/2006/04/17/fsm2-electric-boogaloo/

Somehow this strikes me as a better solution since (a) Allan won't have to devote time to coding it and (b) it keeps the framing of the window with the code a little more lean (I hate having a full-screen mode and then working mostly on the left side of the display).

Thanks for passing that on Anthony.

Dan

Though I do have an experimental/proof-of-concept full screen mode for 2.0, but it sucks big time, because it blocks things like cmd-tab and zoom mode (all the full screen API¹s I have found seems to do that)

Solved in MacJournal. In Apple's aperture, they saw this blocking as a feature.

,doesn¹t progressively show/hide the menu bar etc.

Don't want the menu bar to show.

not to speak about handling windows/dialogs/sheets which may come up while in full screen mode etc.

That is an issue, the problems are, I am sure, both obscure, and numerous.

, and that is _very_ low on my list, because just pressing the

• in the title bar effectively gives you a full screen window without

all these problems.

+ gives you a big window, which is worse than a well fitting window for creative writing.

Still I am not sure that we need spend much time convincing you of something you don't dig: I don't mind buying licences for Macjournal from time to time: Dan Schimpf's a nice guy too :-)

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