I finally got around to creating a small screencast for using TM to write LaTeX. You can find it here: http://skiadas.dcostanet.net/ afterthought/2006/01/09/textmate-latex-screencast-no-1/
(direct link to the vid: http://skiadas.dcostanet.net/uploads/ TextMateScreencast1.zip). It's probably mostly aimed at new users I guess. It's about 25MB. Let me know what you think and what you would like to see in future screencasts. Be harsh.
Haris
I just installed latex here on my powerbook two days ago to try it out. I've been looking for a way to remove Word and other word processors from my hard drive and Latex struck me as a nice way to do it. What I'd be interested in seeing is using Latex from a student perspective.
How can I setup MLA styled documents? How do I use the latex bibliography app?
That sort of stuff. But also, the hardest part i seen concerning latex, was installing it. I didn't want to use the i-installer app to do it since i would prefer to know what's really going on under the hood. So i was stuck trying to figure out how to do it via darwinports or fink. Fink is a load of crap in my opinion (i didn't give it much of a chance honestly, but way too much setup work) so I went with what I had already installed and had setup, darwinports. All I had to do was install X11.app and type "sudo port install tetex" and i was in business. far easier than dealing with that kludge i-installer.
So anyone who wants to install Latex. Here's how I did it.
1. Install X11.app from the Optional Packages install on your Tiger or Panther disc. 2. Install XCode if you don't already have it installed. 3. Install Darwinports (it's not hard) 4. Use port to install the tetex packages, "sudo port install tetex"
You will need to add /opt/local/bin and /opt/local/sbin to your PATH since that's where apps are installed. I think you can also just install X11SDK with XCode and it'll work as well instead of X11.app, but I didn't try that.
Kyle On 1/10/06, Charilaos Skiadas cskiadas@uchicago.edu wrote:
I finally got around to creating a small screencast for using TM to write LaTeX. You can find it here: http://skiadas.dcostanet.net/ afterthought/2006/01/09/textmate-latex-screencast-no-1/
(direct link to the vid: http://skiadas.dcostanet.net/uploads/ TextMateScreencast1.zip). It's probably mostly aimed at new users I guess. It's about 25MB. Let me know what you think and what you would like to see in future screencasts. Be harsh.
Haris
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On 1/10/06, Kyle Swank unlogikal@gmail.com wrote:
I just installed latex here on my powerbook two days ago to try it out. I've been looking for a way to remove Word and other word processors from my hard drive and Latex struck me as a nice way to do it. What I'd be interested in seeing is using Latex from a student perspective.
How can I setup MLA styled documents? How do I use the latex bibliography app?
You may want to check out the MacOSX-TeX mailing list. I lurk on that list, and it's a great resource for doing all sorts of TeX stuff.
http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ (scroll down a little bit)
Mike
On Jan 10, 2006, at 2:33 PM, Kyle Swank wrote:
How can I setup MLA styled documents?
I'm not familiar with what this means. Can you explain? Though I gather this is more of a LaTeX question, than a "LaTeX in TM" question. Though come to think of it, a series of "pure LaTeX" screencasts is not a bad idea either...
How do I use the latex bibliography app?
I personally like using BibDesk (http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/) to manage my bibliography, and it does indeed tie in very nicely with TM. I'll address their interaction on the next screencast.
Haris
As far as MLA is concerned, it's a style guide for both bibliographies and the actual text of the document. If you search around online you can find more free information, but http://www.mla.org/ has a few bits of info.
I'm mostly interested in conforming to my professors standard "name, date, class" information in the upper right corner of the first page. I'll mostly be using this for writing papers, while it might take longer right now to do as opposed to using word, i imagine knowing latex will make writing other documents later easier. Not to mention i like the idea of not having to control the style stuff so much and then make sure everything else corresponds exactly to the other way i did it.
But yes, a full "latex" screencast would rock. I know my questions were mostly unrelated to textmate, and i'm sorry for that. this is the only list i'm subscribed to that has anything remotely related to latex in it.
Subscribing to that other latex mailing list now.
Anyone recommend any great tutorial sites? I've seen a few and they're ok, but i'm curious if i'm missing anything. Any latex spotlight plugins? :-P
Kyle
On 1/10/06, Charilaos Skiadas cskiadas@uchicago.edu wrote:
On Jan 10, 2006, at 2:33 PM, Kyle Swank wrote:
How can I setup MLA styled documents?
I'm not familiar with what this means. Can you explain? Though I gather this is more of a LaTeX question, than a "LaTeX in TM" question. Though come to think of it, a series of "pure LaTeX" screencasts is not a bad idea either...
How do I use the latex bibliography app? I personally like using BibDesk (http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/) to manage my bibliography, and it does indeed tie in very nicely with TM. I'll address their interaction on the next screencast.
Haris
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On Jan 10, 2006, at 3:28 PM, Kyle Swank wrote:
As far as MLA is concerned, it's a style guide for both bibliographies and the actual text of the document. If you search around online you can find more free information, but http://www.mla.org/ has a few bits of info.
I'd guess you just need to find the appropriate class. A google search for "MLA and LaTeX" might give you more info on that. I found this: http://www.walfield.org/pub/people/neal/mla/ And you can find some info related to the bibliography here: http:// web.reed.edu/cis/help/BibTeXstandard.html I always just use the document classes article or amsart anyway, so I haven't looked much into it.
I'm mostly interested in conforming to my professors standard "name, date, class" information in the upper right corner of the first page. I'll mostly be using this for writing papers, while it might take longer right now to do as opposed to using word, i imagine knowing latex will make writing other documents later easier. Not to mention i like the idea of not having to control the style stuff so much and then make sure everything else corresponds exactly to the other way i did it.
You might need to find an appropriate style sheet, or just create your own. Again, I don't mess around much with the layout, so you might have better chance asking at the tex list.
But yes, a full "latex" screencast would rock. I know my questions were mostly unrelated to textmate, and i'm sorry for that. this is the only list i'm subscribed to that has anything remotely related to latex in it.
no need to apologize. I was the one apologizing in advance, for why I might not do such a screencast for a while.
Subscribing to that other latex mailing list now.
Anyone recommend any great tutorial sites? I've seen a few and they're ok, but i'm curious if i'm missing anything. Any latex spotlight plugins? :-P
There's a number of good books, you might consider getting your hands on one. Good for reference. Best thing is to just ask around when you want to do something particular.
Kyle
Haris
On Jan 10, 2006, at 1:28 PM, Kyle Swank wrote:
Any latex spotlight plugins? :-P
I don't know about Spotlight plugins, but you might be interested in this Dashboard widget:
http://vocaro.com/trevor/software/widgets/ (bottom of page)
Trevor
On Jan 10, 2006, at 3:56 PM, Trevor Harmon wrote:
On Jan 10, 2006, at 1:28 PM, Kyle Swank wrote:
Any latex spotlight plugins? :-P
I don't know about Spotlight plugins, but you might be interested in this Dashboard widget:
http://vocaro.com/trevor/software/widgets/ (bottom of page)
That widget is really awesome Trevor, nice work.
Trevor
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Haris
Am 10.01.2006 um 22:28 schrieb Kyle Swank:
Anyone recommend any great tutorial sites? I've seen a few and they're ok, but i'm curious if i'm missing anything. Any latex spotlight plugins? :-P
Yes, there is one: http://www.spookyhill.net/~gall/latex/#mdimporter (it also comes with the latest TeXShop version)
Best, Matthias
Am 10.01.2006 um 21:33 schrieb Kyle Swank:
That sort of stuff. But also, the hardest part i seen concerning latex, was installing it. I didn't want to use the i-installer app to do it since i would prefer to know what's really going on under the hood.
I don't quite get that. What's in a "sudo port install tetex" that lets you know "what's really going on under the hood" and isn't there in the i-Installer? I do not find the i-Installer kludgy at all, certainly not in comparison to X11, Darwinports and Xcode.
- Marco
On Jan 10, 2006, at 6:10 PM, Marco Kuhlmann wrote:
Am 10.01.2006 um 21:33 schrieb Kyle Swank: I don't quite get that. What's in a "sudo port install tetex" that lets you know "what's really going on under the hood" and isn't there in the i-Installer? I do not find the i-Installer kludgy at all, certainly not in comparison to X11, Darwinports and Xcode.
I am personally immensely happy with the i-installer, and also found some other interesting related packages in there. I also used fink for a while, and hated it.
- Marco
Haris
well, i can look at the portfile from darwinports, and watch as it downloads, configures, makes, packages, and installs each dependency. i know i-installer has a log file, but i prefer the darwinports end of things because i have experience with both linux and freebsd. it just works better for me, chalk it up under personal preference. whereas i couldn't quite figure out how to install the stuff i wanted via i-installer, and both pages i had read on installing latex in OS X had about 8 or 9 screenfulls of information regarding i-installer, far more than i was willing to read when i knew i could do it with darwinports if i only knew the package name i needed to install. googling for about 10 more minutes found tetex. i also think darwinports seperates out the components better for upgrading.
port upgrade tetex
it doesn't just magically do whatever it does. i tell it to do it, and i can visually see what's going on as it happens.
i already had darwinports installed and XCode 2.2, so that was added simply for people who don't already have it installed. So all i personally needed to do was pop in my Tiger disc and install X11.app and type "port install tetex" in Terminal.app and it was installed a few minutes later.
so really it just comes down to what you prefer to do i guess. i know darwinports seperates those apps from my other stuff. it's put in /opt/local/ ... i had no idea where it might install stuff with i-installer.
it just turned into a lot of "well, what exactly is it GOING to do?" and the result was too much research for simply installing an app to try out. darwinports made it easy, and if i didn't like it, it was a simply "port uninstall tetex" and it would be gone.
Kyle
On 1/10/06, Marco Kuhlmann mk@mcqm.net wrote:
Am 10.01.2006 um 21:33 schrieb Kyle Swank:
That sort of stuff. But also, the hardest part i seen concerning latex, was installing it. I didn't want to use the i-installer app to do it since i would prefer to know what's really going on under the hood.
I don't quite get that. What's in a "sudo port install tetex" that lets you know "what's really going on under the hood" and isn't there in the i-Installer? I do not find the i-Installer kludgy at all, certainly not in comparison to X11, Darwinports and Xcode.
- Marco
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I agree with Kyle, i-installer has a "black magic" feeling. being a debian guy, I went with sudo apt-get install tetex :)
Here's a second screencast about LaTeX and Textmate, that deals with projects, BibDesk and labels: http://skiadas.dcostanet.net/afterthought/2006/01/16/textmate-latex- screencast-no-2/
Direct link: http://skiadas.dcostanet.net/uploads/ TextMateScreencast2.zip
Around 23MB, 9 minutes.
Comments are welcome.
On Jan 10, 2006, at 12:54 AM, Charilaos Skiadas wrote:
I finally got around to creating a small screencast for using TM to write LaTeX. You can find it here: http://skiadas.dcostanet.net/ afterthought/2006/01/09/textmate-latex-screencast-no-1/
(direct link to the vid: http://skiadas.dcostanet.net/uploads/ TextMateScreencast1.zip). It's probably mostly aimed at new users I guess. It's about 25MB. Let me know what you think and what you would like to see in future screencasts. Be harsh.
Haris
Haris
On Jan 16, 2006, at 8:15 PM, Charilaos Skiadas wrote:
Here's a second screencast about LaTeX and Textmate, that deals with projects, BibDesk and labels: http://skiadas.dcostanet.net/afterthought/2006/01/16/textmate-latex- screencast-no-2/
Direct link: http://skiadas.dcostanet.net/uploads/ TextMateScreencast2.zip
Around 23MB, 9 minutes.
Comments are welcome.
Thanks for the tips! Your demos always leave me impressed by the power of pdfsync. And I liked the demonstration of the citation and reference lookups; I never got around to playing with those myself. Looking forward to your next screencast!
By the way, I had a hard time finding the screencast after downloading. For some reason it was named "FireFox...". Also, the audio was pretty soft; I had to turn up the volume all the way, and even then I could barely hear it.
Trevor
On Jan 16, 2006, at 11:39 PM, Trevor Harmon wrote:
By the way, I had a hard time finding the screencast after downloading. For some reason it was named "FireFox...".
Ah yes, thanks for noticing that. I've changed it now to something more descriptive. I guess I am used to downloading the zip file, then uninstalling it by double-clicking on it, on my Desktop, so I see what files get created, so I didn't think of it. :)
Also, the audio was pretty soft; I had to turn up the volume all the way, and even then I could barely hear it.
Yeah that has been a concern, not sure how to improve it. I am using the built in microphone of my iBook, but I think I might not have maxed out the volume on it. Need to be more careful next time.
Haris
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