The Pasteboard Server error that is detailed here: http:// macromates.com/wiki/Troubleshooting/CantPaste is happening every time I use TextMate. TextMate will work fine for a run or two but it quickly becomes dead to the world of copy-and-paste (other than internally). Also, contrary to what is stated in the previous link this is only a problem with TextMate. I can copy and paste between apps like Eclipse, Firefox, Mail, Pages, TextEdit, etc... without problem. Further the stated solution of restarting the pbs does not alleviate the issue. The only solution is to log out and back in or to restart completely.
I had never experienced this problem until I updated to the latest version (1.5.6 (1414)) several weeks ago.
Am I the only one? Does anyone have any ideas for me? Is there any info that I can provide to help diagnose this?
Thanks, ------------------- Jeff Clark Fairfax City, VA http://www.nothoo.com http://www.fairfaxbirding.com
On Sep 12, 2007, at 4:06 PM, Jeff Clark wrote:
TextMate will work fine for a run or two but it quickly becomes dead to the world of copy-and-paste (other than internally).
I had never experienced (or heard about) this until today. I didn't realize it was a known problem, but I eventually logged out/in and that seemed to fix it. I thought it was a fluke, but now you have me worried that it will become common. Anyway, I can also confirm that it was only TextMate that couldn't be copied to or from.
I had never experienced this problem until I updated to the latest version (1.5.6 (1414)) several weeks ago.
Are you also using the clipboard module in Quicksilver? I initially thought that was to blame for mucking things up (although it's been installed for months), so I disabled it, but that obviously didn't help. However, I haven't ruled out that some sort of interaction between TextMate and the Quicksilver clipboard module caused this, which is why I bring it up. I've also updated Quicksilver recently to 3804 for what it's worth (although the Clipboard module is unchanged).
For me, it seemed to break (or I first noticed the problem) after using "Edit in TextMate" from Mail. Does "Edit in TextMate" interact with the pasteboard in some way that could be relevant.
--- Rob http://www.skurfer.com/
On 13/09/2007, at 06:21, Rob McBroom wrote:
On Sep 12, 2007, at 4:06 PM, Jeff Clark wrote:
TextMate will work fine for a run or two but it quickly becomes dead to the world of copy-and-paste (other than internally).
I had never experienced (or heard about) this until today. I didn't realize it was a known problem, but I eventually logged out/in and that seemed to fix it. I thought it was a fluke, but now you have me worried that it will become common.
One of the workarounds linked to at the page is from 2004 -- so this is not a new problem.
Anyway, I can also confirm that it was only TextMate that couldn't be copied to or from.
There is a global ‘pbs’ process which acts as a server. Each program talks (indirectly) with this to participate in clipboard sharing.
What seems to happen is that the ‘pbs’ process drops one of its clients. So it will seem like the client is at fault, although copy/ paste for the client still works fine.
I am pretty sure this is not my fault since:
1. I never talk directly with the pbs server, I use NSPasteboard 2. Most users report that relaunching the pbs process fixes it 3. This problem has been seen for other applications 4. When TextMate is cut off, it affects everything in TextMate, i.e. also system controls, drag’n’drop, etc.
I had never experienced this problem until I updated to the latest version (1.5.6 (1414)) several weeks ago.
Are you also using the clipboard module in Quicksilver? I initially thought that was to blame for mucking things up (although it's been installed for months), so I disabled it, but that obviously didn't help. However, I haven't ruled out that some sort of interaction between TextMate and the Quicksilver clipboard module caused this, which is why I bring it up. I've also updated Quicksilver recently to 3804 for what it's worth (although the Clipboard module is unchanged).
There is a high probability that this is caused by something on the system [1] seeing how some users see the problem a lot, and most never ever see it (I personally have never experienced it for TextMate, but once for OmniWeb).
For those who do experience it a lot, it would be good to report it at https://bugreport.apple.com/-- Apple has the source for both the pbs server, the NSPasteboard “wrapper”, and the insight into how data is shared between applications, so they would be able to at least look at the components involved and/or request more data from affected users.
[1]: Or perhaps related to the data which goes to the clipboard.
On Sep 13, 2007, at 12:45 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote:
What seems to happen is that the ‘pbs’ process drops one of its clients. So it will seem like the client is at fault, although copy/ paste for the client still works fine.
I wasn't saying TextMate caused it, just that it was the only affected application.
There is a high probability that this is caused by something on the system [1] … [1]: Or perhaps related to the data which goes to the clipboard.
Now that you mention it, there were some weird entries listed in Qicksilver's clipboard history. I forget exactly what it said, but I think it was some type of "object" and they looked grayed-out. Perhaps this was the problem (though I have no idea how those things got there).
--- Rob McBroom http://www.skurfer.com/ I didn't "switch" to Apple... my OS did.
2007/9/12, Jeff Clark jeffc666@gmail.com:
Am I the only one? Does anyone have any ideas for me? Is there any info that I can provide to help diagnose this?
i don't have this prob within TextMate BUT, i can say i had a, presumably bug, with pbs coming from my :
~/.MacOSX/environment.plist
when the "SESSIONID" (don't remember exactly the name) key/value pair was in this plist caused the pbs bug :
no more cut'n paste nor drag'n drop at all for this account...
Notice i was using this plist only for TextMate because my shell is zsh...
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