I love a lot of things about TextMate - but I'm still having one major problem.
How can I edit multiple files straight from an FTP server in a single window? I use Transmit 3 - which lets you ctrl-click a file and "edit in" whatever. Then, when you save, it shoots the new file up to the server. However, I'm trying to figure out how to do this within one window - like when you're working on a "project". Coming from TextWrangler, this works fine because all your files open in the file browser and you've got one window. In TextMate, I've got a new window every time, and I always have to drag the new windows around because they open in "cascade" like fashion. It's really a pain, and I'm trying to find a way around this...
Is there a way to make a "project" that points to files that are online? Is there a way to get new files to open in a single window? I got the impression that this "single window" thing I was talking about might be coming to TextMate - but I'm trying to figure out a way to work with this as-is.
Any tips would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks, - Trevor
On 02/11/2005, at 18.50, Trevor Turk wrote:
[...] Is there a way to make a "project" that points to files that are online? Is there a way to get new files to open in a single window?
No, there isn't.
I got the impression that this "single window" thing I was talking about might be coming to TextMate
Correct.
--- Allan Odgaard throw-away-1@macromates.com wrote:
On 02/11/2005, at 18.50, Trevor Turk wrote:
[...] Is there a way to make a "project" that
points to
files that are online? Is there a way to get new
files
to open in a single window?
No, there isn't.
I got the impression that this "single window" thing I was talking about
might
be coming to TextMate
Correct.
Sweet. Thanks for the reply, and I'm looking forward to some single window action. I actually just got some money in my coffers, so I could afford to pick up a license today. Great product. Lightweight and extensible - just how I like it. Plus it really is... good looking... somehow...
I found that you can drag a folder onto TextMate to open it in a single window. That's actually pretty good for my purposes generally, but it looks like you can't do that via Transmit. I'm going to guess that this is a limitation coming from Transmit's side of things, but if not, it would be nice to see that feature brought to remote editing. Not a big deal, and probably not possible/feasible, but I thought I'd point it out.
Thanks again, - Trevor
Trevor Turk trevorturk@yahoo.com wrote:
I found that you can drag a folder onto TextMate to open it in a single window. That's actually pretty good for my purposes generally, but it looks like you can't do that via Transmit.
What about Transmit->Preferences->General Double Click Action: Edit in External Editor External Editor: TextMate ?
No drag required, just Double-Click on file in Transmit "their stuff" windows.
--- José Campos jose.campos+tm@galacsys.com wrote:
Trevor Turk trevorturk@yahoo.com wrote:
I found that you can drag a folder onto TextMate
to
open it in a single window. That's actually pretty good for my purposes generally, but it looks like
you
can't do that via Transmit.
What about Transmit->Preferences->General Double Click Action: Edit in External Editor External Editor: TextMate ? No drag required, just Double-Click on file inTransmit "their stuff" windows.
That's a pretty good tip - but it's not working for folder, just files. All the same, thanks for that - it's much easier to double click files to edit them like that!
Trevor Turk trevorturk@yahoo.com wrote:
That's a pretty good tip - but it's not working for folder, just files.
Sorry, I did not notice the keyword was "folder" But, as you certainly know, when several windows are open, you can navigate through them by: command+shift+>
--- José Campos jose.campos+tm@galacsys.com wrote:
Sorry, I did not notice the keyword was "folder" But, as you certainly know, when several windowsare open, you can navigate through them by: command+shift+>
I always used command + ~
Trevor Turk trevorturk@yahoo.com wrote:
navigate through them by: command+shift+>
I always used command + ~
So it must be keyboard-dependent (I use a French keyboard)
On 03.11.2005, at 18:25, José Campos wrote:
But, as you certainly know, when several windows are open, you cannavigate through them by: command+shift+>
Hm, doesn't work for me. I'm using Command-`, which does exactly this.
I always wished to do that, because Commad-Tab only switches between apps, not windows. When I found this shortcut, I thought "Wow. Why is this not documented anywhere?". Are there more similar super-useful shortcuts in Mac OS X I don't know of?
Jonas
Jonas Witt wrote:
I always wished to do that, because Commad-Tab only switches between apps, not windows. When I found this shortcut, I thought "Wow. Why is this not documented anywhere?". Are there more similar super-useful shortcuts in Mac OS X I don't know of?
It is documented :)
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75459
This however does not cover the keyboard shortcuts that can be used when editting text. I frequently use ctrl-A and ctrl-E to go to beginning/end of line respectively. There are a few others for editting text, but I don't remember them atm.
Jeroen.
--- Jeroen van der Ham jeroen@je-ju.net wrote:
...editting text. I frequently use ctrl-A and ctrl-E
to
go to beginning/end of line respectively. There are a few others...
I use command + left and command + right for that.
--- Jonas Witt jonas.witt@gmail.com wrote:
On 03.11.2005, at 18:25, José Campos wrote:
But, as you certainly know, when severalwindows are open, you can
navigate through them by: command+shift+>
Hm, doesn't work for me. I'm using Command-`, which does exactly this.
I always wished to do that, because Commad-Tab only switches between apps, not windows. When I found this shortcut, I thought "Wow. Why is this not documented anywhere?". Are there more similar super-useful shortcuts in Mac OS X I don't know of?
Sorry, that's what I meant - I just like the way ~ looks :)
You know what I love the most about the Mac keyboard shortcuts? It's the Apple-Tab, but not just that part - I love how you can use your mouse to change programs. Man. Every time I use a Windows machine now, I'm totally frustrated. Plus, the new Media Center one? I don't know if anybody has seen this, but... it's terrible. Basically, it tries to do a little screenshot for you, but it's just awful. Awful!
On 02/11/2005, at 18.50, Trevor Turk wrote:
How can I edit multiple files straight from an FTP server in a single window?
Possible solution: http://www.interarchy.com/documentation/7/tour
It allows you to create fake ftp and sftp volumens on your desktop, just like connecting to any other network volumen.
On 03.11.2005, at 20:29, David Jack Olrik wrote:
On 02/11/2005, at 18.50, Trevor Turk wrote:
How can I edit multiple files straight from an FTP server in a single window?
Possible solution: http://www.interarchy.com/documentation/7/tour
It allows you to create fake ftp and sftp volumens on your desktop, just like connecting to any other network volumen.
Finder can connect to FTP Servers and mount them to your Desktop on its own. But I don't know if this works for SFTP, too.
If you have mounted a FTP Server as a Finder Volume (Connect to Server, --> ftp://foo:bar@ftp.server.com/), it is absolutely possible to
cd /Volumes/ftp.server.com/ mate directory/
or drag any folder to TextMate (just tried that). Textmate shows the directory, live updates it and you can open, edit & save files. Even if Finder is not a very good FTP client IMO and sometimes is very stupid when it comes to FTP connections, this works. VFS rock. :)
Jonas
On 11/3/05, Jonas Witt jonas.witt@gmail.com wrote:
On 03.11.2005, at 20:29, David Jack Olrik wrote:
On 02/11/2005, at 18.50, Trevor Turk wrote:
How can I edit multiple files straight from an FTP server in a single window?
Possible solution: http://www.interarchy.com/documentation/7/tour
It allows you to create fake ftp and sftp volumens on your desktop, just like connecting to any other network volumen.
Finder can connect to FTP Servers and mount them to your Desktop on its own. But I don't know if this works for SFTP, too.
If you have mounted a FTP Server as a Finder Volume (Connect to Server, --> ftp://foo:bar@ftp.server.com/), it is absolutely possible to
cd /Volumes/ftp.server.com/ mate directory/
or drag any folder to TextMate (just tried that). Textmate shows the directory, live updates it and you can open, edit & save files. Even if Finder is not a very good FTP client IMO and sometimes is very stupid when it comes to FTP connections, this works. VFS rock. :)
Since when did FTP in Finder allow anything beyond read access? Did 10.4.3 add that functionality?
Regards, -- Jason Bainbridge http://kde.org - webmaster@kde.org Personal Site - http://jasonbainbridge.com
On 03.11.2005, at 22:04, Matthew Erker wrote:
That would be nice. I just tested with 10.4.3 and was only able to gain read access. Nice try.
Oops, sorry for that. I always assumed blindly that Mac OS was so great that it could write too, but never actually tried. :(
Pretty disappointing. Does this mean that Windows Explorer is better than Finder?
Jonas
blasphemer! : )
On Nov 3, 2005, at 3:14 PM, Jonas Witt wrote:
On 03.11.2005, at 22:04, Matthew Erker wrote:
That would be nice. I just tested with 10.4.3 and was only able to gain read access. Nice try.
Oops, sorry for that. I always assumed blindly that Mac OS was so great that it could write too, but never actually tried. :(
Pretty disappointing. Does this mean that Windows Explorer is better than Finder?
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--- Jonas Witt jonas.witt@gmail.com wrote:
Pretty disappointing. Does this mean that Windows Explorer is better than Finder?
I don't know if I'd got THAT far, but... everybody hates Finder, so...
I remember moving over to Mac not too long ago, and one of the first things I went looking for was a Windows Explorer clone. Not that I'm in love with Windows, but I find the Finder (hehe) very difficult to work with. Also, I remember trying to use it for FTP and was very disappointed in the whole read-only thing. Thankfully, Transmit is pretty sweet - and I'd already spent who knows how much on the computer, so...
On Nov 3, 2005, at 3:24 PM, Trevor Turk wrote:
I remember moving over to Mac not too long ago, and one of the first things I went looking for was a Windows Explorer clone. Not that I'm in love with Windows, but I find the Finder (hehe) very difficult to work with. Also, I remember trying to use it for FTP and was very disappointed in the whole read-only thing. Thankfully, Transmit is pretty sweet - and I'd already spent who knows how much on the computer, so...
I'm seeing everyone talking about Transmit. Could someone tell me in what ways is it better than Cyberduck?
Haris
On 11/3/05, Charilaos Skiadas cskiadas@uchicago.edu wrote:
On Nov 3, 2005, at 3:24 PM, Trevor Turk wrote: I remember moving over to Mac not too long ago, and one of the first things I went looking for was a Windows Explorer clone. Not that I'm in love with Windows, but I find the Finder (hehe) very difficult to work with. Also, I remember trying to use it for FTP and was very disappointed in the whole read-only thing. Thankfully, Transmit is pretty sweet - and I'd already spent who knows how much on the computer, so...
I'm seeing everyone talking about Transmit. Could someone tell me in what ways is it better than Cyberduck?
I've been trialling Transmit lately after using Cyberduck and I find Transmit better for actual file transfers as it includes a local file browser, even though Cyberduck doesn't as it isn't the Mac way of doing things I still find it easier in Transmit.
However I don't really transfer that much and only usually use SFTP for remote editing, Transmit is better for that as it doesn't have problems refreshing to show new files and it doesn't throw an error every time you try to reconnect after your Mac has been sleeping.
Also I prefer the directory navigation in Transmit, the tree view stuff in Cyberduck gets to be a pain when working on a large site and is a little finicky.
Regards, -- Jason Bainbridge http://kde.org - webmaster@kde.org Personal Site - http://jasonbainbridge.com
On 03.11.2005, at 22:29, Charilaos Skiadas wrote:
I'm seeing everyone talking about Transmit. Could someone tell me in what ways is it better than Cyberduck?
Cyberduck sometimes really annoys me. If I connect to a server, leave it alone long enough (6 minutes?), it auto-disconnects. At least TCP does it, I don't know if Cyberduck recognizes that. If I now try to close Cyberduck, it warns me about this 'open' connection. OK, I click disconnect. It connects again, probably to disconnect. But it doesn't disconnect. If I click disconnect again, it disconnects (maybe because now the connection was really open again). _Now_ I can close Cyberduck. Great.
I don't know if Transmit does this too, but this is what I dislike about Cyberduck. And it just seems too big, takes too long to load for a simple (?) FTP client. It could really be slimmer, I think.
But I like that Cyberduck has _no_ local browser. As Jason said, it does it the Mac way.
Jonas
On Nov 3, 2005, at 3:42 PM, Jonas Witt wrote:
On 03.11.2005, at 22:29, Charilaos Skiadas wrote:
Cyberduck sometimes really annoys me. If I connect to a server, leave it alone long enough (6 minutes?), it auto-disconnects. At least TCP does it, I don't know if Cyberduck recognizes that. If I now try to close Cyberduck, it warns me about this 'open' connection. OK, I click disconnect. It connects again, probably to disconnect. But it doesn't disconnect. If I click disconnect again, it disconnects (maybe because now the connection was really open again). _Now_ I can close Cyberduck. Great.
I don't know if Transmit does this too, but this is what I dislike about Cyberduck. And it just seems too big, takes too long to load for a simple (?) FTP client. It could really be slimmer, I think.
But I like that Cyberduck has _no_ local browser. As Jason said, it does it the Mac way.
Jonas
Thank you all for your comments. I guess I use Cyberduck in a relatively light way. I just have folders I keep locally, and folders on the server, so when I am about to start work on a project I ask Cyberduck to synchronize the two folders, then I disconnect, then I edit the local copy, and then I ask it to synchronize again. If on the other hand I want to edit just one file, I double click on it. But I've never had a connection time out. (using sftp) So for my needs it has worked just fine, and it's free, and the source code is available. I can see though that someone using FTP heavily would have more requirements.
Haris
--- Charilaos Skiadas cskiadas@uchicago.edu wrote:
I'm seeing everyone talking about Transmit. Could someone tell me in what ways is it better than Cyberduck?
It just... feels better - like TextMate :)
Not a solution, but a handy workaround that I use.
I download directories I'm working on to a local directory and set them up using Transmit's DockSend feature. Then I set up a command in TM that sends the current file (or directory) to Transmit, which automatically uploads it to the right spot on the server (assuming the directory structure is mirrored on the local disk).
The commands are really simple:
DocSend current file to Transmit: open -a "Transmit" "$TM_FILEPATH"
DockSend current directory to Transmit: open -a "Transmit" "$TM_DIRECTORY"
On 11/2/05, Trevor Turk trevorturk@yahoo.com wrote:
I love a lot of things about TextMate - but I'm still having one major problem.
How can I edit multiple files straight from an FTP server in a single window? I use Transmit 3 - which lets you ctrl-click a file and "edit in" whatever. Then, when you save, it shoots the new file up to the server. However, I'm trying to figure out how to do this within one window - like when you're working on a "project". Coming from TextWrangler, this works fine because all your files open in the file browser and you've got one window. In TextMate, I've got a new window every time, and I always have to drag the new windows around because they open in "cascade" like fashion. It's really a pain, and I'm trying to find a way around this...
Is there a way to make a "project" that points to files that are online? Is there a way to get new files to open in a single window? I got the impression that this "single window" thing I was talking about might be coming to TextMate - but I'm trying to figure out a way to work with this as-is.
Any tips would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
- Trevor
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