In general, I'm surprised that there hasn't been more progress on the python bundle, given how many people claim to use it.[^1] I suppose I'm as guilty for this as anyone.
roads of life brought me away from Milan where I used to live (now I'm in Bozen) and away from a working internet connection, so my ability to give back to the community has been hindered quite a lot. I hope I'll be back somewhen next month, if Italian telcos help me.
domenico.carbotta@fastwebnet.it wrote:
In general, I'm surprised that there hasn't been more progress on the python bundle, given how many people claim to use it.[^1] I suppose I'm as guilty for this as anyone.
roads of life brought me away from Milan where I used to live (now I'm in Bozen) and away from a working internet connection, so my ability to give back to the community has been hindered quite a lot. I hope I'll be back somewhen next month, if Italian telcos help me.
Yeah, that's cool domenico. I wasn't talking about you specifically (you've done more for the python bundle than anyone else AFAIK), but more about the rest of TM's python users, who undoubtedly have come up with at least a few tricks of their own (I hope?!). :) I keep getting sidetracked by other random projects (including other TM bundles, work stuff, my own fun things, etc.) but I'd like to figure out some more improvements to the python bundle myself too.
-Jacob
On 6-okt-2006, at 0:19, Jacob Rus wrote:
In general, I'm surprised that there hasn't been more progress on the python bundle, given how many people claim to use it.[^1] I suppose I'm as guilty for this as anyone.
[...] but more about the rest of TM's python users, who undoubtedly have come up with at least a few tricks of their own (I hope?!). :) I keep getting sidetracked by other random projects (including other TM bundles, work stuff, my own fun things, etc.) but I'd like to figure out some more improvements to the python bundle myself too.
It's a late response, but I'd like to apologize for myself :-| I guess when I hack away in the Bundle Editor, it is mostly things I just need right now for this specific project, or it is on my Cheetah bundle, I've been toying with privately.
[...] Anyway, us TM python users need to start adding useful stuff to the bundle. It's hard to think of things, given that the language is pretty low on extraneous baggage, but I'm sure there are places where we can speed ourselves up.
It's not so hard. And in the light of the discussion started by Bill Bumgarner yesterday [odd pymate output bug], I'd like to add my $0.02.
For me the three most important feature requests (for the Python bundle and/or Textmate in general) are:
1. Automatic context-sensitive code-completion Like the smart pop-up window that can be seen in XCode. The exact behavior of the XCode autocompletion isn't always exactly my favorite, e.g. it should (1) learn from completions previously used (sort of how QuickSilver learns from my whims) and (2) it should complete to parts of CamelCased or underscore_seperated_words too (like the file completion in the Terminal works). And since python is really strong in introspection, it could be really smart in the context sensitivity. (Take a look at how ipython completes to see what I mean).
2. Jump to the declaration or definition of a method or function with ⌥⌘↑ Again, based on the python introspection it should be possible to jump straight to the 'def function_name (args):' line of the .py file where the module is defined, if you find 'function_name' somewhere else in your project, and you want to track back what this function does exactly.
3. Better (and perhaps online) documentation support. I'm afraid to say, but ^H doesn't work for me the way it should. I think it's great that python comes with so much documentation built in, and I like the colors of the documentation page, but there I am not finding what I am looking for. I always end up using google to find the method or module in docs.python.org/ref/ or docs.python.org/ tut/. Can't we use these under ^H ?
best, dirk
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Jacob Rus