Calling all flex/flash/as developers:
We need to come up with a unified bundle design for these technologies. I talked about about this with Allan and it sounds like there are several people working on these same things. Here are my recomendations:
AS3 bundle: Should contain ActionScript 3 language syntax, snippets, etc. that are relevant only to AS3 as a language. (just as the ruby bundle only contains ruby stuff and not rails stuff).
Flex2 bundle: Should contain any extensions to the AS3 bundle that are relevant to flex. Should contain MXML language syntax, snipptets, etc. Should contain MXML and AS3 templates for new applications and components. Should contain commands to build components and applications using the flex2 framework standalone lib. ("FlexMate")
Thoughts? Ideas? Improvements?
-dave
Allen pointed Ale Muñoz out for looking into this item. he's the current maintainer of as2. current situation :
* as 2 (Ale Muñoz) * as 3 (Robert Payne, Adam Ellot , Joachim Van der Hoeven) * flex 2 (capable of using as 3) -> Joshua Emmons (extending bundle of Daniel Parnell) * and in the near future apollo (i'm already working on implementing the know as3 syntax (alpha) into the bundle )
so, at the moment it is wait and see what Ale will say ... in the maintime everybody continue to work on his bundle ;-)
greetz
Joachim
see also : http://lists.macromates.com/pipermail/textmate/2007-April/018902.html http://lists.macromates.com/pipermail/textmate/2007-April/019141.html
2007/4/24, Dave Grijalva grijalva@gmail.com:
Calling all flex/flash/as developers:
We need to come up with a unified bundle design for these technologies. I talked about about this with Allan and it sounds like there are several people working on these same things. Here are my recomendations:
AS3 bundle: Should contain ActionScript 3 language syntax, snippets, etc. that are relevant only to AS3 as a language. (just as the ruby bundle only contains ruby stuff and not rails stuff).
Flex2 bundle: Should contain any extensions to the AS3 bundle that are relevant to flex. Should contain MXML language syntax, snipptets, etc. Should contain MXML and AS3 templates for new applications and components. Should contain commands to build components and applications using the flex2 framework standalone lib. ("FlexMate")
Thoughts? Ideas? Improvements?
-dave
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Apollo needs to be it's own Bundle. The Apollo runtime can run code created in flash or dhtml, it is not a subset of flex.
as3 is too different from as2 for the as2 bundle to be valuable at all. it's not a case of upgrading the as2 bundle to as3. they should be maintained separately.
-dave
On 4/24/07, Joachim joachimvdh@gmail.com wrote:
Allen pointed Ale Muñoz out for looking into this item. he's the current maintainer of as2. current situation :
- as 2 (Ale Muñoz)
- as 3 (Robert Payne, Adam Ellot , Joachim Van der Hoeven)
- flex 2 (capable of using as 3) -> Joshua Emmons (extending bundle
of Daniel Parnell)
- and in the near future apollo (i'm already working on implementing
the know as3 syntax (alpha) into the bundle )
so, at the moment it is wait and see what Ale will say ... in the maintime everybody continue to work on his bundle ;-)
greetz
Joachim
see also : http://lists.macromates.com/pipermail/textmate/2007-April/018902.html http://lists.macromates.com/pipermail/textmate/2007-April/019141.html
2007/4/24, Dave Grijalva grijalva@gmail.com:
Calling all flex/flash/as developers:
We need to come up with a unified bundle design for these
technologies. I talked about about this with Allan and it sounds like there are several people working on these same things. Here are my recomendations:
AS3 bundle: Should contain ActionScript 3 language syntax, snippets, etc. that are
relevant only to AS3 as a language. (just as the ruby bundle only contains ruby stuff and not rails stuff).
Flex2 bundle: Should contain any extensions to the AS3 bundle that are relevant to
flex.
Should contain MXML language syntax, snipptets, etc. Should contain MXML and AS3 templates for new applications and
components.
Should contain commands to build components and applications using the
flex2 framework standalone lib. ("FlexMate")
Thoughts? Ideas? Improvements?
-dave
For new threads USE THIS: textmate@lists.macromates.com (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't) http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
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i mean the specific as3 classes for flex used in apollo you can find it in framework/src folder of the apollo sdk
it's indeed not a subset of flex, rather an extention ;-)
2007/4/24, Dave Grijalva grijalva@gmail.com:
Apollo needs to be it's own Bundle. The Apollo runtime can run code created in flash or dhtml, it is not a subset of flex.
as3 is too different from as2 for the as2 bundle to be valuable at all. it's not a case of upgrading the as2 bundle to as3. they should be maintained separately.
-dave
On 4/24/07, Joachim joachimvdh@gmail.com wrote:
Allen pointed Ale Muñoz out for looking into this item. he's the current maintainer of as2. current situation :
- as 2 (Ale Muñoz)
- as 3 (Robert Payne, Adam Ellot , Joachim Van der Hoeven)
- flex 2 (capable of using as 3) -> Joshua Emmons (extending bundle
of Daniel Parnell)
- and in the near future apollo (i'm already working on implementing
the know as3 syntax (alpha) into the bundle )
so, at the moment it is wait and see what Ale will say ... in the maintime everybody continue to work on his bundle ;-)
greetz
Joachim
see also :
http://lists.macromates.com/pipermail/textmate/2007-April/018902.html
http://lists.macromates.com/pipermail/textmate/2007-April/019141.html
2007/4/24, Dave Grijalva < grijalva@gmail.com>:
Calling all flex/flash/as developers:
We need to come up with a unified bundle design for these technologies.
I talked about about this with Allan and it sounds like there are several people working on these same things. Here are my recomendations:
AS3 bundle: Should contain ActionScript 3 language syntax, snippets, etc. that are
relevant only to AS3 as a language. (just as the ruby bundle only contains ruby stuff and not rails stuff).
Flex2 bundle: Should contain any extensions to the AS3 bundle that are relevant to
flex.
Should contain MXML language syntax, snipptets, etc. Should contain MXML and AS3 templates for new applications and
components.
Should contain commands to build components and applications using the
flex2 framework standalone lib. ("FlexMate")
Thoughts? Ideas? Improvements?
-dave
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On 24. Apr 2007, at 09:26, Joachim wrote:
Allen pointed Ale Muñoz out for looking into this item. he's the current maintainer of as2. current situation :
- as 2 (Ale Muñoz)
- as 3 (Robert Payne, Adam Ellot , Joachim Van der Hoeven)
- flex 2 (capable of using as 3) -> Joshua Emmons (extending bundle
of Daniel Parnell)
- and in the near future apollo (i'm already working on implementing
the know as3 syntax (alpha) into the bundle )
so, at the moment it is wait and see what Ale will say ... in the maintime everybody continue to work on his bundle ;-)
And now Simon Gregory committed an AS3 + Flex2 bundle [1].
I have moved this bundle to Review/Bundles [2], as I plan to let future bundles go through a bit more peer-review than in the past (something I already did start, but until now, it has been mostly done by private mail, and with me as the sole reviewer).
It’s probably best to setup a special mailing list intended only for bundle peer-reviewing.
Since this affects all bundle contributors, I’ll make a separate post about this.
[1]: http://lists.macromates.com/pipermail/textmate-dev/2007-April/ 008766.html [2]: http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk/Review/Bundles/
Calling all flex/flash/as developers: We need to come up with a unified bundle design for these technologies.
I couldn't agree more! Sorry for my (eerily similar) post over on textmate-dev [1]. I didn't know this conversation was happening over here.
[1]: http://tinyurl.com/yrdwmd
AS3 bundle: Should contain ActionScript 3 language syntax, snippets, etc. that are relevant only to AS3 as a language. (just as the ruby bundle only contains ruby stuff and not rails stuff).
Completely agree. Though don't forget support for E4X. Its syntax is so interwoven with AS3's that I think it'd be hard to implement that as a separate bundle.
Flex2 bundle: Should contain any extensions to the AS3 bundle that are relevant to flex. Should contain MXML language syntax, snipptets, etc. Should contain MXML and AS3 templates for new applications and components. Should contain commands to build components and applications using the flex2 framework standalone lib. ("FlexMate")
This would also seem the proper place to extend CSS bundle to deal with Flex-only styles. And I'd make a point of ensuring that whatever features/grammars are added, they're added on top of text.xml. MXML is so strongly XML based, it'd be a shame if we threw out all of XML bundle's useful stuff.
Also, I'm a little weary of calling this bundle "Flex2" as what we are really editing is MXML files. We don't call HTML bundle "Web Page bundle", after all. But that's a completely semantic argument, and I am willing to surrender.
Allen writes:
And now Simon Gregory committed an AS3 + Flex2 bundle.
I would vote strongly against wrapping these things into a single bundle. For one thing, AS3 is going to be very popular as the basis for Javascript2/ECMAScript4 and will likely be used extensively in future non-Flex projects by Adobe. It will need to evolve on its own without being coupled to Flex. And who knows what the future holds for MXML with Apollo on the horizon. It's better, IMHO, to keep things focused and flexible. Simon: How feasible is it to break this bundle into two parts? Will that put us ahead or behind of where we are with the current stand-alone bundles?
It sounds like most of us on on the same page, here. I think it'd be nice if we could agree on a single AS3 and a single Flex bundle to focus our efforts on so we have something to congregate around. Nominations?
Cheers, -Joshua Emmons
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