Are there any plans to add something like the Subethaedit online collaboration features to Textmate? In the light of Leopard's apparent focus on online collaboration, such things would be double-plus good!
(and it would limit the number of editors I need on my system!)
Best,
N
You must have missed the betas of Subethamate… (Sources: http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.editors.textmate.general/ month=20060401 as well as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TextMate)
SCNR.
Jeroen van der Ham | 1 Apr 08:51 New Beta coming soon!
From: Jeroen van der Ham <jeroen@...> Subject: New Beta coming soon! Newsgroups: gmane.editors.textmate.general Date: 2006-04-01 06:51:56 GMT Hello all,
As you may have noticed, the cycle of TextMate betas has slowed down recently. When talking to Allan yesterday, I asked him about the progress of reworking TextMate's innards. He confided me that during the recent months MacroMates has been cooperating with TheCodingMonkeys working hard to exchange experiences and to merge their editors.
Later today a new beta of SubEthaMate will be released, as a combined effort between TheCodingMonkeys and MacroMates. This new beta will feature preliminary support for both of SubEthaEdit and TextMate strongpoints, collaboration features, access to the Unix shell, and remote editing over (S)FTP. The beta will of course be very rough around the edges, and it will require extensive testing and feedback to get all this right. Allan told me that the new beta will be released only to the TextMate community later today. The public announcement will follow when SubEthaMate is more stable.
To be certain, I contacted one of TheCodingMonkeys, Martin Pittenauer. He confirmed that they are working with Allan to create a stronger editor. "TextMate and SubEthaEdit both have the same philosophy, selling their editor at a low price and placing high value on usability. It is time we combined our effort and knock BareBones off their throne.", he commented. He also told me that they are waiting for SubEthaMate to become reasonably stable, before releasing it to their community.
I can't wait to get my hands on the new beta! Jeroen.
On 8/10/06, Daniel Käsmayr daniel@kaesmayr.net wrote:
You must have missed the betas of Subethamate… (Sources: http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.editors.textmate.general/month=20060401 as well as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TextMate)
SCNR.
I'd completely missed that. Very cool. Very cool indeed.
N.
<looking around for April Fools joke...>
That is nice, me wanty wanty!
On 8/10/06, Nicholas Cole nicholas.cole@gmail.com wrote:
On 8/10/06, Daniel Käsmayr daniel@kaesmayr.net wrote:
You must have missed the betas of Subethamate… (Sources: http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.editors.textmate.general/month=20060401as well as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TextMate )
SCNR.
I'd completely missed that. Very cool. Very cool indeed.
N.
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Uh, guys, that was an April Fools Joke...
Ken
On Aug 10, 2006, at 8:36 AM, Daniel Käsmayr wrote:
You must have missed the betas of Subethamate… (Sources: http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.editors.textmate.general/ month=20060401 as well as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TextMate)
SCNR.
Jeroen van der Ham | 1 Apr 08:51 New Beta coming soon!
From: Jeroen van der Ham <jeroen@...> Subject: New Beta coming soon! Newsgroups: gmane.editors.textmate.general Date: 2006-04-01 06:51:56 GMT Hello all,
As you may have noticed, the cycle of TextMate betas has slowed down recently. When talking to Allan yesterday, I asked him about the progress of reworking TextMate's innards. He confided me that during the recent months MacroMates has been cooperating with TheCodingMonkeys working hard to exchange experiences and to merge their editors.
Later today a new beta of SubEthaMate will be released, as a combined effort between TheCodingMonkeys and MacroMates. This new beta will feature preliminary support for both of SubEthaEdit and TextMate strongpoints, collaboration features, access to the Unix shell, and remote editing over (S)FTP. The beta will of course be very rough around the edges, and it will require extensive testing and feedback to get all this right. Allan told me that the new beta will be released only to the TextMate community later today. The public announcement will follow when SubEthaMate is more stable.
To be certain, I contacted one of TheCodingMonkeys, Martin Pittenauer. He confirmed that they are working with Allan to create a stronger editor. "TextMate and SubEthaEdit both have the same philosophy, selling their editor at a low price and placing high value on usability. It is time we combined our effort and knock BareBones off their throne.", he commented. He also told me that they are waiting for SubEthaMate to become reasonably stable, before releasing it to their community.
I can't wait to get my hands on the new beta! Jeroen.
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On 8/10/06, Ken Anderson kena@cs.colorado.edu wrote:
Uh, guys, that was an April Fools Joke...
Ken
On Aug 10, 2006, at 8:36 AM, Daniel Käsmayr wrote:
You must have missed the betas of Subethamate… (Sources: http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.editors.textmate.general/ month=20060401 as well as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TextMate)
SCNR.
I'll admit that it did have me for about 10 mins - until I noticed the date on the blog post.
But my original request still stands, and there are protocols for allowing multiple people to edit a document - one of which would make a lovely addition to text mate.
Best,
N
On 10/8/2006, at 23:20, Nicholas Cole wrote:
But my original request still stands, and there are protocols for allowing multiple people to edit a document - one of which would make a lovely addition to text mate.
AFAIK the SubEthaEdit protocol is closed, I have not asked them if they are interested in documenting it.
Libobby is an Open Source protocol / implementation for synchronized document buffers. I have not looked closer at it. They are working on a revised v2.0 of the protocol where the implementation should be LGPL or similar.
But this is pretty low-priority as most users do not need collaborative editing, but would benefit from a lot of other “missing” features -- those users which do need collaborative editing, well, there already is a great product which does it with all the bells and whistles ;)
Am 14.08.2006 um 02:03 schrieb Allan Odgaard:
On 10/8/2006, at 23:20, Nicholas Cole wrote: […] But this is pretty low-priority as most users do not need collaborative editing, but would benefit from a lot of other “missing” features -- those users which do need collaborative editing, well, there already is a great product which does it with all the bells and whistles ;)
right. for me at least collaboration in SEE is a really nice toy… but i never really used it.
hardly related… but i still like SEEs "mark changes"-feature. even in sinlge user mode (pun not intended) it's quite useful.
niko.
On 8/14/06, Niko Dittmann ni-di@web.de wrote:
Am 14.08.2006 um 02:03 schrieb Allan Odgaard:
On 10/8/2006, at 23:20, Nicholas Cole wrote: […] But this is pretty low-priority as most users do not need collaborative editing, but would benefit from a lot of other "missing" features -- those users which do need collaborative editing, well, there already is a great product which does it with all the bells and whistles ;)
right. for me at least collaboration in SEE is a really nice toy… but i never really used it.
hardly related… but i still like SEEs "mark changes"-feature. even in sinlge user mode (pun not intended) it's quite useful.
I haven't used SEE. but I did try out Eclipse for day or two, and although it wasn't really my thing, it had a great feature which constantly diffed your changes against the saved version, marking the diff colours in the margin (rather than over the whole line). You could right click on any line in the margin and revert changes to just that line. It was brilliant as an undo feature and in reminding yourself what you had changed. When yo0u want to undo something you did 10 changes ago it's a godsend.
Ed
Am 23.08.2006 um 17:41 schrieb Ed Singleton:
On 8/14/06, Niko Dittmann ni-di@web.de wrote:
[…] i still like SEEs "mark changes"-feature. even in sinlge user mode (pun not intended) it's quite useful.
I haven't used SEE. but I did try out Eclipse for day or two, and although it wasn't really my thing, it had a great feature which constantly diffed your changes against the saved version, marking the diff colours in the margin (rather than over the whole line). You could right click on any line in the margin and revert changes to just that line. It was brilliant as an undo feature and in reminding yourself what you had changed. When yo0u want to undo something you did 10 changes ago it's a godsend.
this sounds really great. is something like this principly possible in textmate? seems like the language-grammar (which is responsible for syntax-highlighting, no?) has to be influenced by a command reading an external file or something. this would be great… *dreaming*
niko.
Niko Dittmann wrote:
this sounds really great. is something like this principly possible in textmate? seems like the language-grammar (which is responsible for syntax-highlighting, no?) has to be influenced by a command reading an external file or something. this would be great… *dreaming*
There's a lot of great text features in Eclipse that I miss when using TextMate, but most keenly of all I miss: * the refactoring support, * the red squigglies (aka anti-brainfart tool) and * the nifty trick that selecting one instance of a variable on the screen highlights other places where it appears in to code.
Cheers,
JC.
Ken Anderson wrote:
Uh, guys, that was an April Fools Joke...
Cool! It took you longer to figure it out than when it was originally posted ;)
You must have missed the betas of Subethamate… (Sources: http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.editors.textmate.general/month=20060401 as well as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TextMate)
Wow, I never guessed that my april fool's joke would make it to the Wikipedia page :)
Jeroen.
It was only on Wikipedia for about 20 minutes before I called BS on it. Surprising how fast it got up there (assuming the poster wasn't you).
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006, Jeroen van der Ham wrote:
Ken Anderson wrote:
Uh, guys, that was an April Fools Joke...
Cool! It took you longer to figure it out than when it was originally posted ;)
You must have missed the betas of Subethamate… (Sources: http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.editors.textmate.general/month=20060401 as well as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TextMate)
Wow, I never guessed that my april fool's joke would make it to the Wikipedia page :)
Jeroen.
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seth hamstead wrote:
It was only on Wikipedia for about 20 minutes before I called BS on it. Surprising how fast it got up there (assuming the poster wasn't you).
Nope, that wasn't me. I hadn't even thought about looking at the Wikipedia page until it was pointed out here in relation to the Subethamate post.
Bit weird that it would shop almost 4 months after the joke.
Jeroen.
I decided to add that wikipedia-piece of reality in addition to my bump of the april fools post ;) couldn't resist, especially after that colbert-show…
Dan, just back.
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