hi all and alan -- thanks for a great product.
One suggestion: I think a split pane ala mail.app would be an improvement over the current drawer. Use of a drawer implies to me, an optional part of the interface, but when working on a project, the file list is hardly option, in my opinion. Is there any here that opens and closes the drawer repeatedly to access their project listing? A drawer makes window resizing a two step operation -- you have to first position your window to accommodate your drawer before doing the resize.. Try it, you'll see what I mean. I think really, managing the use of space *inside* a window is much more natural than managing it outside.
.niels
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On 2/6/06, Niels noggin@mac.com wrote:
One suggestion: I think a split pane ala mail.app would be an improvement over the current drawer. Use of a drawer implies to me, an optional part of the interface, but when working on a project, the file list is hardly option, in my opinion. Is there any here that opens and closes the drawer repeatedly to access their project listing? A drawer makes window resizing a two step operation -- you have to first position your window to accommodate your drawer before doing the resize.. Try it, you'll see what I mean. I think really, managing the use of space *inside* a window is much more natural than managing it outside.
There are some projects I use the drawer a lot but that is usually when I am first becoming familiar with that project. Most of the time cmd-t seems to do the trick for my navigation needs which often leads to the drawer being closed. I often keep my drawers on the left side for the resize reason you mentioned. Also, the width of my windows usually fall far from maximum so I have plenty of space that I usually do not worry about overlap problems (I can't stand having just one app maximized -- I tend to multi-task more than one app allows -- it just reminds me of badly designed apps that I used when still on windows..)
One secondary option that might be popular is to have the project tree detached in its own floating window. It could be shared across multiple projects too, if needed. I am sure there are plenty of other ideas... but it will have to be up to Allan in the end.
Brian.
On 06 Feb 2006, at 20:36, Niels wrote:
hi all and alan -- thanks for a great product.
One suggestion: I think a split pane ala mail.app would be an improvement over the current drawer. Use of a drawer implies to me, an optional part of the interface, but when working on a project, the file list is hardly option, in my opinion. Is there any here that opens and closes the drawer repeatedly to access their project listing? A drawer makes window resizing a two step operation -- you have to first position your window to accommodate your drawer before doing the resize.. Try it, you'll see what I mean. I think really, managing the use of space *inside* a window is much more natural than managing it outside.
.niels
Hi Niels,
This has been discussed a lot before.
You can search the list for drawer (http://www.google.com/search? q=drawer+site%3Alists.macromates.com&btnG=Search)
You can find Alan's opinion is this thread: http://lists.macromates.com/pipermail/textmate/2005-April/003870.html
Personally, what I like with a drawer is that I can place it on the side I want and hide it when I don't need it.
-- Fred
On 6/2/2006, at 20:36, Niels wrote:
One suggestion: I think a split pane ala mail.app would be an improvement over the current drawer [...]
It's not an uncommon comment: http://www.google.com/search? num=20&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=drawer+window+site% 3Alists.macromates.com&btnG=Search
There's no need for further input on the subject, thanks.
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