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On 6.10.2004, space aliens observed Tomas Jogin saying:
I hope ftp-support is added soon, not just being able to edit a remote file, but actually being able to associate a project with an ftp account.
Is there any reason why you don't use an actual FTP application for this? Interarchy has some awesome features for this kind of work. What I do right now is this: For each Project in TextMate, I have an FTP Disk in Interarchy. When I open a Project, I mount the FTP Disk. Whenever I change something in TextMate, it's being uploaded automatically to the FTP server.
The reason I don't want to use an actual FTP application is that I don't want to incessantly switch between the editor and the ftp-application.
Using FTP disks, you don't have to. Of course, it's not quite as nice as absolute automation, but it's pretty close. And it could probably be totally automated using AppleScript by having a script that opens both the Project and the Interarchy FTP disk.
Once both are open, you don't have to do anything in Interarchy anymore. It will pick up on any changes you make in TextMate (or any other application) all by itself.
The interarchy feature you mention sounds pretty nice, and in fact I'll download Interarchy right now, because it does sound sweet, but having it integrated with the editor would be even better. By the way, something like that isn't possible with Transmit (which I currently use), right?
No, Transmit doesn't do anything like that as far as I know. FTP disks are a unique feature of Interarchy.
lucas
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Why not just do an ftp mount through the finder?
Nick
On Oct 6, 2004, at 11:58 AM, Lucas K. Mathis wrote:
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On 6.10.2004, space aliens observed Tomas Jogin saying:
I hope ftp-support is added soon, not just being able to edit a remote file, but actually being able to associate a project with an ftp account.
Is there any reason why you don't use an actual FTP application for this? Interarchy has some awesome features for this kind of work. What I do right now is this: For each Project in TextMate, I have an FTP Disk in Interarchy. When I open a Project, I mount the FTP Disk. Whenever I change something in TextMate, it's being uploaded automatically to the FTP server.
The reason I don't want to use an actual FTP application is that I don't want to incessantly switch between the editor and the ftp-application.
Using FTP disks, you don't have to. Of course, it's not quite as nice as absolute automation, but it's pretty close. And it could probably be totally automated using AppleScript by having a script that opens both the Project and the Interarchy FTP disk.
Once both are open, you don't have to do anything in Interarchy anymore. It will pick up on any changes you make in TextMate (or any other application) all by itself.
The interarchy feature you mention sounds pretty nice, and in fact I'll download Interarchy right now, because it does sound sweet, but having it integrated with the editor would be even better. By the way, something like that isn't possible with Transmit (which I currently use), right?
No, Transmit doesn't do anything like that as far as I know. FTP disks are a unique feature of Interarchy.
lucas
"These guys are pretty cool - even though they're sixty." -- Beavis & Butthead (about Aerosmith)
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Because I want to keep local copies of the files as well.
-Tomas
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 12:33:20 -0500, Nick Hristov hrisnik@iit.edu wrote:
Why not just do an ftp mount through the finder?
Nick
My previous email seemed to have caused a bit of confusion, so I am sending this to the whole list.
My statement that you can use the Finder to do the FTP work for you was incorrect. As many of you pointed out to me, the Finder has only read only access to remote files (regardless of the remote permissions).
This being said, there may be a way for the end user to "emulate" an FTP mount, through the command menu in TextMate. You will have to download the ncftp unix package first, though (or, something like the following could do).
Command->Edit Menu [hit plus]
set standard input to None set standard output to "Show in a seperate window" set before running command "Save active files in project" set commands to :
ftp <<EOT prompt off open ftp://username:password@[PLACE YOUR SITE HERE] cd [TARGET DIRECTORY] mput "$TM_FILEPATH"/* close EOT
Unfortunately, I cannot test this right now. With ncftp package its simpler (by using ncftpcopy). More later.
Nick
[General comment to this thread..] Others suggested the Interarchy application, which can make virtual FTP disks, and I agree that it tends to be a very good solution. Try it out if you need the integrated FTP! :-)
Sune Foldager wrote:
Others suggested the Interarchy application, which can make virtual FTP disks, and I agree that it tends to be a very good solution. Try it out if you need the integrated FTP! :-)
40 bucks just to mount a FTP server seems a bit much to me...
On 6/10-2004, at 21:05, Joost Schuttelaar wrote:
Sune Foldager wrote:
Others suggested the Interarchy application, which can make virtual FTP disks, and I agree that it tends to be a very good solution. Try it out if you need the integrated FTP! :-)
40 bucks just to mount a FTP server seems a bit much to me...
As in TM costs 40 bucks or Interarchy does? If the former, I don't really understand your argument. If the latter, I guess Interachy is too expansive... I don't remember, it's been a long time since I used it.
Sune Foldager wrote:
As in TM costs 40 bucks or Interarchy does? If the former, I don't really understand your argument. If the latter, I guess Interachy is too expansive... I don't remember, it's been a long time since I used it.
The latter, ofcourse :)
Someone just needs to build a decent open source FTP disk mounter for OSX :)
On 7/10-2004, at 0:12, Joost Schuttelaar wrote:
Sune Foldager wrote:
As in TM costs 40 bucks or Interarchy does? If the former, I don't really understand your argument. If the latter, I guess Interachy is too expansive... I don't remember, it's been a long time since I used it.
The latter, ofcourse :) Someone just needs to build a decent open source FTP disk mounter for OSX :)
Yeah, I hear you ... :-). ..or Apple needs to do something serious about the built in one.
On 07/10/2004, at 9:12 AM, Joost Schuttelaar wrote:
Sune Foldager wrote:
As in TM costs 40 bucks or Interarchy does? If the former, I don't really understand your argument. If the latter, I guess Interachy is too expansive... I don't remember, it's been a long time since I used it.
The latter, ofcourse :)
Someone just needs to build a decent open source FTP disk mounter for OSX :)
Maybe... I know it's good to get stuff for free, but hey, like others said, there can be a reason for valuing a paid client, for its richness of features...
Having said that, FTPeel http://freshsqueeze.com/products/ftpeel/ has its MagicMirror feature, and costs $19... and what about setting up a watch folder by attaching an AppleScript and invoking the CLI FTP support, or one of the freeware scriptable FTP clients, like Cyberduck http://icu.unizh.ch/~dkocher/cyberduck/...?
marc
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