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RE: [TxMt] Smart Typing Question - Go To End Of Line

by Kumar McMillan

>The C bundle contains 3 macros for this: > cmd-return: go to end of line, make a return > cmd-shift-return: go to end of line, set a ;, make a return > cmd-option-return: go to end of line, set a ; > >I've grown so fond of these macros that I even have a set for text.* >that sets a . instead of a ;. Allan, would it make sense to move these macros to Defaults? I didn't even know they were there --very nice surprise! Semi-colons (unfortunately) seem to be required for many languages ... not to mention stylesheets/plists, etc. k

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"Edit in TextMate" service broken

by Eric Ocean

When I try to use this from Safari, Safari hangs (expected) but nothing happens in TextMate. I used to use this feature often, but as another user on my machine. I've since deleted that user, so I can't comment as to whether or not it would still work in that account. Any ideas on how to fix things so they work again? Best, Eric

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Bundle opening behaviour

by max

Hi, When a bundle is double-clicked in the finder and there is already one with that name installed TM displays a dialogue saying: " The bundle ³<bundle name>² already exists in your Application Support folder. Do you want to replace it?" Could there be an option for merging the two bundles? For example, if I download a bundle that adds extra functionality to an existing bundle, I don't want to replace or cancel the open action, I want to add the new stuff. I know I can do it all manually by opening the package but this is quite time consuming. The other thing that could be changed in the bundle behaviour is giving an option of opening it as a scratch project. If I want to do some work on a bundle's contents, I am not able to drag it onto Textmate's icon because it tries to install it, rather than making a project. None of these things are critical, but would be nice to have. Regards, Max

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Textile Bundle?

by Chris Messina

Hi all, I was wondering if anyone might be interested in putting together a simple textile bundle? I'm completely snowed under myself or else I'd endeavor to learn this syntax bundling thing myself! Thanks. Chris -- Do the evolution. Get Firefox! <http://spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliates&id=5&t=4> Quote of the moment: /"Simplicity is in taking the elegant path. It is also a conscious choice— to achieve simplicity one must eschew complexity. Simple things must be simple."/ -- author unknown

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building modules

by Mark Smith

I've probably missed something obvious and/or previously discussed here but... Is there a standard way to get TM to generate a UUID string for a "mySyntax.plist" file ? Background: I've embarked upon a bundle for ConTeXt using the LaTeX bundle as inspiration and liftable source. I want to generate two Syntax.plist files. One for ConTeXt itself (using material I generated for a BBEdit CLM for ConTeXt) and a trivially modified version of the bibtex.plist file from the LaTeX bundle (so that highlighting works with ConTeXt's \cite[citekey] (as opposed to \cite{citekey}) construct). Writing the plist files is fairly straightforward (albeit tedious), but I'm wondering about this apparent UUID catch 22: AFAICT, the syntax.plist file can't be included in the bundle's info.plist file w/o a UUID and if its not included in the info.plist file, it is not recognized as a bundle component. Since the bundle editor does not (yet ?) have a "language editor", I don't see how to get past this w/o manually "guessing" a UUID ? I'm prepared for a /slaps head upon receiving (an) answer(s) wtia, mark.

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Wikimedia bundle?

by Ralph Pöllath

Hi, Has anyone come up with a bundle for Wikimedia wiki syntax yet? Cheers, -Ralph.

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Re: [TxMt] HTML bundle

by spam＠minimaldesign.net

I would totally be into looking at others XHTML bundles, and maybe collaborate with other standard loving web designers out there to come up with a usable bundle. The one available by default is really just an example of what you can do... Not practical to get work done... Or, I'd be willing to start from scratch, go through the entire W3C XHTML dictionary and create the best bundle that I can on my own and share it. But it would take me a few days/headaches and I want my free copy of TM afterwards if I have to go through all that :P ......................................... m i n i m a l d e s i g n 244 Fifth Avenue - Suite P233 New York, NY 10001-7604 USA > I think this is your intention but it would be great if any work you > did ended up online and easily downloadable for two reasons: > > 1. New people to TM will often be in the same position > > 2. I would really like to see how others have configured there program > : P > > Eric > > PS. I am not really pushing the boundaries of TM yet so I have nothing > to share put I will if/when I can contribute to the group. > >> I will post you some of my bundles off-list and then you could have a >> look at them. Perhaps you could also tell me (us) what bits are still >> missing after that to make a killer XHTML bundle in your mind ??

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HTML bundle

by spam＠minimaldesign.net

Hi, I'm new here so be gentle ;) I own BBEdit, I'm trying out TM for the first day and I'm super impressed by everything I've tested so far... So I go on the WIKI to look for a killer XHTML bundle with all the macros, snippets, and what not that would be useful for basic XHTML web design but I can't seem to find anything else besides the bundled bundle ;) I mean... it's enough to understand how it works and get me started in creating my own, but it's going to take me forever to add every tag snippets, etc... I'm not too big on reinventing the wheel and, although I understand that TM is not specifically geared towards web developers, I'm pretty sure some other web designers out there must be using TM as their editor no? I guess my question is: did I miss something? Or there's no other HTML bundle besides the one that includes only href, mailto, meta, and p?? thanks for any help :) ......................................... m i n i m a l d e s i g n 244 Fifth Avenue - Suite P233 New York, NY 10001-7604 USA tel / fax: 212.931.8525 email: work(a)minimaldesign.net site: http://minimaldesign.net/

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Find & Replace in a Project

by Tim Martens

Is there a way to find and replace that checks all files in a project? -t

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Spellchecking in latex mode

by Ralf Wirdemann

Hi, I'm trying to user the tm spellchecking feature while editing latex files. Is there any way to avoid checking of the latex macros included in the text? Ralf

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List OK?

by Steve Steiner

Just checking that the list is working as there has been, as far as I can tell, no activity since two days ago... S Stephen F. Steiner IDC ssteiner at integrateddevcorp.com www.integrateddevcorp.com (603)433-1232

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Re: [TxMt] Bloating?

by Gregg Thomason

On Friday, March 25, 2005, at 12:45PM, Allan Odgaard <allan(a)macromates.com> wrote: >On Mar 24, 2005, at 16:05, Gregg Thomason wrote: > >> [...] If it's replacing an existing app, it has to replicate workflow >> /exactly/. > >ehm... I'm pretty sure that all TextMate users did use a text editor >previous to october 2004, and I doubt it replicate the workflow from >any of these editors /exactly/! :) Well, to be fair, you had the good sense to allow me to port BBEdit-style filter scripts with little to no effort (to pick but one of several examples). You *did* replicate everything I needed to get working: emacs keybindings (years of muscle memory), plus mac-ness (same), years of filter scripts and odd bits of code (that are more crucial to me than I let on), etc. User-level extensibility works.

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Scroll Line down. Bug?

by Charilaos Skiadas

Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this. When I use the scroll-line-down feature (Control-Command-DownArrow), it will not switch the highlighted line with the last line of the text. I.e. if the text has 10 lines, and line 9 is highlighted, scroll-line-down has no effect. Can someone confirm this? If so, is it the expected behavior, or should I file a bug, or is a bug already filed? (v1.1b5) thanks, Haris

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Test please ignore

by Eric Curtis

Testing

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A Kill Line (C-k) and Yank (C-y) implementation

by Chris Brierley

Attached is a bundle to implement kill (^k) and yank (^y) as close to the Cocoa/Emacs implementation as I've been able to get. I hope others can get some use out of it as well. Using TextMate, I've had a terrible time trying to overcome years of muscle memory in using ^k to kill and ^y to yank. The same functionality is certainly available in TextMate, but I just can't make my fingers not expect ^k and ^y to work a certain way. Allan has mentioned that a Cocoa-like kill buffer is on his todo list, but I thought I'd attempt something to tide myself over until that arrives. Some high-level things you should know about the bundle: * It does map ^k and ^y. * Like Cocoa/Emacs it uses a kill buffer totally separate from the standard Cocoa clipboard. * I couldn't figure a good way to implement the kill buffer without using the filesystem, so that's what it does. * In order to get the behavior as close as possible to a real Cocoa kill buffer, it's a great kluge of multiple commands and macros. That fact plus the fact that it uses the file system makes it sort of slow (I think certainly usable, though). I hope folks find some use in it.

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Problems with Output: Show as HTML

by Chris Brierley

I'm a little perplexed by this because I've searched the list and can't find anyone else having this problem, so I'm starting to wonder if it's just happening to me for some reason. In the default W3C Validation command for HTML, which uses "Show as HTML" for output, the perl filter leaves off the url part of the txmt URL, which causes the frontmost TextMate window to be used as the target rather than finding an explicit file. The problem is that whenever you use that command (or I assume any command with HTML output), the HTML output window *is* the frontmost window and so a txmt URL without the file specified can't work. Isn't anyone else seeing this? It seems to me that the only way for this to work would be if the output window wasn't counted when looking for the frontmost window. Is that possible? I've fixed this problem for myself by changing the W3C validation command to: ,----- curl 2>/dev/null -F uploaded_file=@/dev/stdin\;type=text/html http://validator.w3.org/check \ | perl -pe 's#(Line (\d+), column (\d+))#<a href="txmt:\/\/open?url=file://$ENV{TM_FILEPATH}&line=$2&column=@{[$3 + 1]}">$1<\/a>#' `----- ...but I'm intrigued that no one else is reporting this problem. Does this not happen for others? Thanks much.

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Testing Please Ignore

by Eric Curtis

Test Email

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Tab size dependent on the file mode?

by Lars Pind

I have a project where the .tcl files traditionally uses and indentation of 4, and the .adp (html) files use indentation of 2. Is it possible to set TextMate up to set the tab size dependent on the mode? So far I've either stuck with a tabsize of 2 for everything, and then hit once more on the TAB key in tcl, or I've been switching back and forth, both of which are suboptimal. Thanks, /Lars

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Re: [TxMt] Bloating?

by Gregg Thomason

On Wednesday, March 23, 2005, at 04:17PM, H H <hh(a)keensoft.com> wrote: >I really like TextMate because its is not overly boated with features. Be careful with the term "bloat", as it inspires religious fervor. Consider: Emacs includes a Tetris game and psychotherapist (albeit a poor one), among other things. Is Emacs "bloated"? Well it certainly increases the size of the download, but deleting eliza.el isn't likely to 1)radically speed that up or 2)make it perform better. One man's bloat is another man's must-have feature. >For instance, the discussion on adding an SFTP client to it, is >baffling -- I don't like TextWrangler because the program is trying to >do everything for everybody -- even its preferences are too complicated >for most users. On the opposite side of the coin, think about the number of people who demand this feature. Just about every professional programmer's editor on Mac, Linux and Windows has it. This has become a bullet-point you *have* to add, no matter how nonsensical. > For my work I use Fugu to do my SFTP stuff, because it >does a good job, it supports tunneling, which is something that an SFTP >program should do. Leave the text editing work for TextMate, and let >the focus stay there. The point I'm trying to make here, is *your* work is not *my* work, and yet TextMate may be 100% applicable to *both* our jobs. Or, phrased another way, "Software development is hard, let's go shopping." If you're taking votes, though, my vote would be "no" on built-in S/FTP. Although "yes!" to a user-extensible plugin system for such gee-gaws, if you think the editor part is complete. :)

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Sticky window

by Tommaso Passi

Hi all, a strange thing: after some ordinary editing activity with TM, the front window is sticky at the bottom of the monitor, if I try to move the window with the top bar, when I release the mouse button the window "fall" at the bottom again and I can't edit this window or click the close, hide or zoom buttons. I can open another window and this works fine, but the other is still sticky. It's funny, but unusable and I have thought to write here because I really like TM and I would want to collaborate to improve it. Ok, that's all. I hope this can be useful to the future development. TM 1.1b5 OS X 10.3.8 Sorry for my bad english, I'm Italian. :-)

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for the record: split panes? Me too!

by Tom Lazar

I'm really missing a split view ATM with my current project... I *definitely* want to second that request for split views ;-) best regards, tom -- tom lazar <tom(a)tomster.org> http://tomster.org

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(S)FTP & TM Extensibility

by Mats Persson

Sorry, I got really irritated with all this replies to replies to replies to replies stuff, so I started a new clean thread. Please use new messages for **new** posts rather replies to existing ones. Thank you! I guess Sune is on holiday, too busy or at the wig maker after having torn out all of his hair in despair over this issue in the past week ;-) (Luckily I'm already bald ) A couple of thoughts and issues on my mind: 1. I'm just wondering, since sftp is installed by default in OS X, could it not be possible to create a bundle version of sftp sort of in the same way as Chris & Torsten created their superb Subversion bundle ??? Of course this would probably not be as GUI-nice as a real hard coded FTP solution within TM, but in combination with easy support for/from other FTP apps like Transmit, that should take care of most requirements of the "large minority". As and when the drawer is reworked, perhaps we could have some hooks into it for displaying the results of Commands etc, sort of like we can output content into the HTML window. Bit more complicated, I know, but along the same kind of lines (if possible). 2. I really like the Firefox Extensions system as well as the OS X InputManagers/PrefsPanes/Contextual Menu Items bits, as they provide a nice extensibility to the app/system. I'd rather have something like this type of functionality in TM than FTP support built-in, as that could be easily added then by others rather than Allan. 3. Kumar McMillan has done some great work on the Function pop-up bundle. If we could have that result displayed in a pop-up menu inside the TM main window, rather than in a separate window, it would be even better. I know, it requires Allan to make it possible. The single combining thought behind all of this is that I would like to see a whole variety of widgets and parts of the GUI opened up for access from Commands/plug-ins etc. inside TM. Then we could create our own solutions to fit our own unique requirements, as well as cater for the general needs at the same time. Allan's comments in his various replies around these subjects is as usual pretty much spot-on, and he sure does know how to get my anticipation buzzing with his various ideas and plans. ;-) Kind regards, Mats ---- "TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease" - www.macromates.com -

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[Q] Unicode and other encoding method?

by JongAm Park

Hello. Thank you for the great editor. I have never seen an editor with that unique features provided by the TextMate. It is very good. However I think it misses really important ones : International Lanaguage support. As well as Unicode, other encoding methods, especially CJK, should be supported. However unlike other editors, I suggest one unique feature for selecting encoding method. 1. The encoding method names should be grouped for same languages and listed as such. For example, if it is Korean, It should be listed "EUC-KR", "ISO-2022KR", "UHC(Windows Korean), and so on. 2. The order of the items should reflect how often you use a specific encoding method. Let's say you use the UTF-8 a lot. Then it should move up to the beginning part of the list, or it should hide items you don't use usually. 3. Automatic detection of encoding method used for a file should be supported. Most Mac editors are very weak with this feature. What do you think about it?

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GNU m4 syntax

by Robert Ullrey

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This might be better for the bundles list, but I am not there, so. Is anyone up for writing a syntax for GNU m4? I don't know if many using it anymore, I do as a preprocessor and would love it if Textmate had the syntax. I know there is one for vim, and this site <http://math1.unice.fr/laboratoire/help/info/m4/m4_7.html> has the conventions. Thanks Robert -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.0.0 (Build 1799) iQA/AwUBQkNhqWO1AQX/YDblEQIcZQCeJ0IB72cRV0x0eXyRnTX+PCIIzu4An2Fa QethBkY0PXgZ66KEDtgmCAkR =cQuo -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Call for Perl Scripters

by Robert Ullrey

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Any Perl/TextMate scripters out there? If so, you might want to take note that Perl Monks is writing a O'Reilly book on perl scripting "Perl Best Practices" and wants feedback on the use of editors. While he is really looking for emacs experts, he also will include other editors like TextMate. Here's the link <http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=441686> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.0.0 (Build 1799) iQA/AwUBQkMHo2O1AQX/YDblEQIfdgCg+hCWDFNPyVrZr2a5cBuHK6JCwosAoJ4Z qZeNf5IjdrZrKf2qKsOp8ODj =UGy6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[Q] Unicode and other encoding method?

by JongAm Park

Hello. Thank you for the great editor. I have never seen an editor with that unique features provided by the TextMate. It is very good. However I think it misses really important ones : International Lanaguage support. As well as Unicode, other encoding methods, especially CJK, should be supported. However unlike other editors, I suggest one unique feature for selecting encoding method. 1. The encoding method names should be grouped for same languages and listed as such. For example, if it is Korean, It should be listed "EUC-KR", "ISO-2022KR", "UHC(Windows Korean), and so on. 2. The order of the items should reflect how often you use a specific encoding method. Let's say you use the UTF-8 a lot. Then it should move up to the beginning part of the list, or it should hide items you don't use usually. 3. Automatic detection of encoding method used for a file should be supported. Most Mac editors are very weak with this feature. What do you think about it?

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Backup files

by Mr. Robert Ullrey

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I may have missed this as a feature request, but just found the need for a backup version of a a file I was working on. What I wanted to do was use diff on the backup and the new version so I could easily record the changes to my work log. Anyway, so I was hoping that a future TextMate preference might allow save to backup like BBEdit (to name one). I was sort of thinking of something like Borgware posted a while ago: <http://borkware.com/quickies/one?topic=NSDocument> override NSDocument's keepBackupFile: - - (BOOL) keepBackupFile { return (YES); } // keepBackupFile This will do the tilde thing to the older version of the file. Cheers Robert -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.0.0 (Build 1799) iQA/AwUBQkIjF2O1AQX/YDblEQIa3QCeKATNG0Ip13F17MauG5xRNMsHILgAoIC0 eFHMUYG+Pnidd8neJziSNnQ0 =EpbA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Undoing more than one keystroke at a time

by Ben Jackson

I saw a feature request for this one, and I wanted to add my strong support for getting this built into the next beta. Undoing is probably the thing I do most often when I'm coding, and unless the undo can keep up with the speed of my decisions I end up wasting a lot of time holding down CMD-Z to get where I already knew I wanted to go. Being that I type in lots of trace statements to examine my code, this gets in the way of my debugging as well. Thanks for listening and I hope that we can see this get implemented. Cheers, Ben -- Ben Jackson Diretor de Desenvolvimento INCOMUM Design & Conceito +55 (21) 9997-0593 ben(a)incomumdesign.com http://www.incomumdesign.com

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Feature Request: split "Open Recent"

by jose.campos+tm＠galacsys.com

Hi All(an) Would it be possible to split the "Open Recent" menu item in two parts : stand-alone documents in one, and TM projects in the other? Or perhaps, add a "Favorites" menu item somewhere, so that most often used documents or templates be always easily reachable? Have a nice day, -- Jo <W:00°04'37" ; N:47°15'36"> 1....'....12.....'....24.....'....36.....'....48.....'....60.....'....72

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[OT] About negative BBEdit comments on this list. A clarification

by Mats Persson

Last Friday (18 March), an off topic discussion arose around negative comments about BareBones/BBEdit due to - seemingly - a comment - entirely intended as a joke - by myself. [ http://one.textdrive.com/pipermail/textmate/2005-March/003522.html ] Since I personally hate it when my actions results in someone else taking the blame and/or gives rise to wrong impressions, I am trying to put the record straight here, on behalf of all innocent users of this list, and to show Allan's/MacroMates' complete innocence in this matter. Furthermore, the single intention of this post is to counteract any incorrect statements, not to attack any individual. So here goes the full disclosure in 7 short-ish points: In an original post by Mark Smith [ http://one.textdrive.com/pipermail/textmate/2005-March/003523.html ], Mark was disturbed by the number of negative comments about BB/BBEdit on this list recently. I - and others - responded to that post, and Mark's replies to mine and Allan's posts made me go through all the e-mails that contained "BB", "BBEdit" or "Bare Bones" since Jan 1, 2005 to establish the true facts of the matter. These are the results I found: Point 1:: ====================== In 865 posts during the period of Jan 1 - March 18, 2005, I could only find 14 unique posts that contained what could possibly be construed as negative comments against BB/BBEdit. That equates to roughly 1% of all posts to this list based upon your interpretation/classification of each comment. I have collected and included all those comments at the bottom of this post, in case anyone is interested. It is also important to note that during the same time period I found roughly 29 posts with positive comments about BBEdit. However, as a child I was taught to always accept my own errors, and as such I have to - slightly ashamed - admit that I had produced the largest number - 5 - of the negative comments/jibes towards BB/BBEdit. For that I am sorry, and wish to apologise to Allan, anyone offended and the guys at BareBones. In my defence I would like to point out the following: -- no comment was a deliberate "bitching" sessions about BB/BBEdit, but rather just what streamed from my mind at the moment. Imperfect as it is. -- the comments were written within a context, and should be considered within that context, and not as free standing quotes. -- I recounted my personal disappointments in dealing with BB. Having used BBEdit as my main editor for 6+ years, I obviously don't think badly of it. Others obviously have had a better experience than I. I had also missed some minor feature additions that I complained about in the latest version of BBEdit v8. As a point of reference. Just because I - or anyone else - has a few negative comments to make about something/someone does not mean that I (we) only think entirely badly about said thing/person. Point 2:: ====================== On 18 Mar 2005, at 17:15, Mark Smith wrote in a reply to Mats Persson (me) : >> Perhaps, you can point out just a few of the 'continual' jibes that >> are unjustified in your mind ?? > In the last week, I noticed several. Yesterday I had also prepared a > reply to a post by William Neumann in the split panes thread... Within that time period, it is true that there were more than two comments that could be interpreted as negative about BB/BBEdit. However, within the whole month of March there was only four comments: (in chronologic order below) In a thread that was perceived as critical towards TM/Allan on 15 Mar 2005, at 12:24 GMT Mats Persson (I) wrote this: >>> But you could buy BBEdit, which does have a simple split-view of the >>> same document. Although dealing with the guys at BB does have it's >>> downsides. You could propose for them to implement a Tab GUI (like >>> TM), a User definable Syntax highlighting system (like TM), a >>> Project hierarchy file viewer (like TMs Project Drawer) or any other >>> item, like I did back in 2001 and many times since up until TM >>> arrived. Now you can have a look to see how many of those user >>> suggestions they have implemented. (The answer is NONE!! or at least >>> none that is as useful and workable for me as TMs implementations) In reply to my comment William Neumann wrote on 16 March 2005 01:59:28 GMT: >>> And unlike some text editor developers I know, the BB guys will >>> never tell you if any given feature is even being considered for >>> inclusion, much less under active development... Depending on your interpretation the following posts/comments could be counted as well. I interpret them as jokes, and therefore not as serious comments. In an unrelated thread to the two above comments, Allan Odgaard wrote this on 18 Mar 2005, at 03:12 GMT: >>> Competition??? oh.. the rock stars over at BareBones ;) To which Mats Persson (I) replied on 18 Mar 2005, at 10:29 GMT: >>> Yeah, I heard about them once. They were pretty big around the time >>> of The Beatles weren't they ?? Not seen much good come out of them >>> lately ;-) So I concede that point to Mark, although I still question the 'continual' aspects originally raised. Point 3:: ====================== >> 2. ...don't ever announce planned features = bs >> Please show me where BB announces their planned features?? I've never >> seen that part before !!! And while you're at it, please show me >> where anyone on this list has complained about BB's lack of >> announcements ??? > I won't resort to searching the archive and naming names unless I > must, but I have seen several posts of this nature in the last couple > of weeks. Honestly. In the above quote, I asked for two answers, neither of which I got, but never mind. On the specific point of users of the TM list complaining about BB's lack of announcements, the only example I can find in this whole year is William Neumann's comment from March 16 above. I am therefore unable to substantiate Mark's comment. Perhaps someone else can ??? Point 4:: ====================== >> 3. ...added anything significant... >> I can't recall anyone on this list ever saying that they haven't >> added anything significant, they obviously must have. However, these >> additions has never been to the true benefit of my work style and >> workflow, in contrast to Allan's improvements to TM. > Two posts with precisely that allegation in the last two days actually. In the above quote, I respond to yet another specific argument in Mark's original post, but get another statement that I am unable to verify, as I cannot find these two posts from the "last two days". The only post that I can find that remotely fits into that description is William D. Neumann's comments on 18 March 2005 at 13:52:21 GMT which is in response to Mark's original point in the first place. I would assume that no one would initiate a discussion by using unfounded statements, and then use points raised in response to this discussion as proof of their comments in the first place. So perhaps someone else can find those two elusive posts ??? Point 5:: ====================== >> In my opinion the focus has always and exclusively been on TM, and >> never ever on any other app. The only times some other app - like >> BBEdit - has been mentioned, is in a qualified reference/point. If >> that statement is wrong, I trust that I will be corrected real soon. > Fine. It was probably a mistake for me to comment,... Yes and No, Mark !! I'll admit that I think it was a mistake for you to comment in the way and manner that you did. But at the same time it was good to bring the issue up for contemplation. Whether it was necessary is perhaps questionable. > ...but as I mention, there have been a number of posts in the last > couple of weeks of this "flavour". Yes, as stated above in Point 2, there were two posts containing negative comments about BB/BBEdit during this "last couple of weeks" time period, both of which should be read and understood within their correct context, and not isolated from it, as they were added to illustrate a particular point rather than anything else. Could those two comments have been written better ?? Yes, absolutely, but so could almost everything ever written. Point 6:: ====================== On 18 Mar 2005, at 16:23, Mark Smith wrote in response to Allan Odgaard: >> but this really isn't what dominates this list, I have 3513 messages >> stored, only a handful mentions the other company. > Half a dozen already in the last few days and always of the same > general form. "Try asking Bare Bones for a feature and see what you > get" etc. I apologise for being repetitive here, but I have found no evidence of "half a dozen" posts in the general form of "Try asking BB for...". There was only one single post of that kind in the whole year up until that point, and that was my point included above. > It appeared to be on the rise, hence my post. Yes, when you go from zero to one, that is indeed a rise in numbers, but on a list that averages 300 posts/month, that's hardly a major trend to highlight, or is it ?? Point 7:: ====================== On 18 Mar 2005, at 16:23, Mark Smith wrote in a response to Allan Odgaard: > Its not as though I've got unusual standards. Perhaps it's me that have unusual standards of speaking my mind. Blame it on being Swedish or possibly bad upbringing, if you wish. But please forgive me for being imperfect. I am not alone in being that. ;-) > A bit of friendly banter is one thing, but I think that disgruntled > BBEdit users and Bare Bones hate mail will turn into an albatross for > you sooner or later if you let it become a dominant aspect of the > community. It will also make it a less interesting and useful place. Hmm, it was some friendly banter that set off this whole "negative BB/BBEdit comments" thing. Funny actually, I thought it would have been my glib semi-religious comment in the same post that might cause the offence. I guess I was wrong there, huh?? As for "Bare Bones hate mail". Oh, please, Mark !! Seriously, please choose your words with greater care in the future. I have absolutely no idea of your life experiences and so on, but to equate anything that has been or likely to be posted on this list as "hate mail" is so fundamentally wrong and misplaced that it is truly frightening to me !!! I dare not even think what you will make out of this post. Should I call my lawyers and have them ready for the police turning up soon ???????? As for BB/BBEdit issues increasing and becoming an albatross (??) or a "dominant aspect" of this ML and making it less interesting / useful. I am truly sorry for saying this, but you must really have a very low opinion of the users on this list to even think of that as a possibility ??? In another post on 18 Mar 2005, at 16:35, Mark Smith wrote: > I may be looking for help with a module for "ConTeXt per XeTeX" soon, > hopefully my even-handed treatment of Bare Bones won't preclude me > from getting any. Mark, please let me make this absolutely clear. **IF** there exists a single individual on this list that would deny you their help due to what you have written in your posts on this subject - however flawed some may think it is - then that person should F*** off, stand in a corner and be ashamed over their behaviour. IF I can help you I will, but don't ask me about "ConTeXt per XeTeX" specific things, because I haven't got a clue. ;-) CONCLUSION:: ============ I hope that the above will have cleared up any issues raised in Mark's original post and subsequent comments. I will now leave the subject of BB/BBEdit for good, and will endeavour to never speak ill of them/it again. I trust and hope that in the case that I would falter, someone will kindly remind of my errors, rather than build up a head of steam. ;-) May peace be with us all forever !! Kind regards, Mats ---- "TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease" - www.macromates.com - APPENDIX:: ================================================= The following is a complete (?) listing of all posts/comments that could be construed as negative during the the period of Jan 1 - March 18, 2005: (in chronologic order) I have added a brief explanation to my points below, to illustrate my original thinking and views of the seriousness of each item. In a separate thread on 4 Jan 2005, at 10:55, Mats Persson wrote: >>> Allan, I sincerely beg you - on my knees, hands firmly clasped - to >>> PLEASE NOT implement anything like that in TM. It reeks of BBEdit, >>> and is in my mind a completely flawed implementation. I do not find the BBEdit drawer implementation to be ideal, and the above quote is in response to a request which wanted the TM Project Drawer to mimic the BBEdit version. In a separate thread on 14 Jan 2005, at 08:59, Paul Nordstrom August wrote: >>> so when I double-clicked BB opened up... what a shock! Like >>> travelling back in time. Honestly I wondered if it had booted >>> Classic up, the menu looked so old :) >>> [Disclaimer, that's BB 7.x not 8.0, so maybe they freshened it up.] In the same thread on 14 Jan 2005, at 15:35, Mats Persson wrote in response to Paul Nordstrom August: >>> Yes, Paul, I too just worked in BBEdit and hated it. v8.0.3 (looks >>> as bad as 7 really) and it was SLOW when I was typing text into the >>> document, and that's on an iMac G5 so it wasn't on some slow old >>> banger either. TM ROCKS !! >>>> is the autosave feature where each file is backed up before each >>>> change. Can we please have that in TM for us klutzes? >>> I tried that feature in BB a long time ago and found it very badly >>> executed to be honest, so I wouldn't really advocate for something >>> like that in TM. In my mind it's sort of putting a 32bhp diesel >>> engine in a Ferrari. a. light banter really, and nothing of substance. I still contend that BBEdit v8 is much slower than v7. That may be due to unique issues on my set-up, but why should it be ?? b. the BBEdit implementation of automatic backups of the file when you save it, is far from ideal. I think that is also a fair comment. In the same thread on 14 Jan 2005, at 17:41, Mats Persson wrote: >>> The last thing I'd like is to be locked into BBEdit like crap >>> implementations. (Although I doubt you would ever implement >>> something like that bad anyway) On the same thread as above, dealing with automatic backup and user flexibility. BBEdit's implementation is fixed and not easy to change which is what I am arguing against. In a separate thread on 25 Jan 2005, at 16:59, Allan Odgaard wrote: >>> I think it's just paying tribute to another innovative text editor >>> for OS X -- unlike BareBones [1] I do know about the existence of >>> such :) [1] http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/01/18/textwrangler/ In a separate thread on 26 Jan 2005, at 08:13, no_reply(a)example.com wrote: >>> fell back to textwrangler (funny that the free editor is better than >>> bb****. pay less, and they remove the bloat for you). In a separate thread on 4 Feb 2005, at 00:24, Bruno Bronosky wrote: >>> For those of you who have not used it, BBEdit amid all bloat >>> actually has a few useful features. In a separate thread on 4 Feb 2005, at 23:43, Chris Ruzin wrote: >>> I'm just beginning to learn about Ruby and TextMate is much better >>> than BBEdit with it. In a separate thread on 9 Feb 2005, at 20:04, Jeroen van der Ham wrote: >>> I'd propose to change the Bundle Editor to a Bundle Browser (<insert >>> joke about Bare Bones Software here>) where you can browse the >>> contents of bundles and not only see it's innards, but also a >>> textfield for documentation. In a separate thread on 17 Feb 2005, at 20:48, Sune Foldager wrote: >>> That would be "BBEdit Lite", their free version. As bad as the full >>> version ;-). In a separate thread on 15 Mar 2005, at 12:24 GMT Mats Persson (I) wrote: >>> But you could buy BBEdit, which does have a simple split-view of the >>> same document. Although dealing with the guys at BB does have it's >>> downsides. You could propose for them to implement a Tab GUI (like >>> TM), a User definable Syntax highlighting system (like TM), a >>> Project hierarchy file viewer (like TMs Project Drawer) or any other >>> item, like I did back in 2001 and many times since up until TM >>> arrived. Now you can have a look to see how many of those user >>> suggestions they have implemented. (The answer is NONE!! or at least >>> none that is as useful and workable for me as TMs implementations) The above comment was written within a context of critical comments about TM and Allan's work, which I thought was unwarranted. I tried to help, but expressed myself clumsily. Please note that each issue is so simplified as to sound generic, but was much more detailed when I originally discussed the issues with BB. Although, harsh in tone, the last line retracts some of what I'm saying. In the same thread on 16 March 2005 01:59:28 GMT William Neumann wrote: >>> And unlike some text editor developers I know, the BB guys will >>> never tell you if any given feature is even being considered for >>> inclusion, much less under active development... In a separate thread on 18 Mar 2005, at 03:12 GMT Allan Odgaard wrote: >>> Competition??? oh.. the rock stars over at BareBones ;) In the same thread on 18 Mar 2005, at 10:29 GMT Mats Persson wrote: >>> Yeah, I heard about them once. They were pretty big around the time >>> of The Beatles weren't they ?? Not seen much good come out of them >>> lately ;-) This was nothing other than an attempt at a joke in response to Allan's "rock stars" comment. As a visual person I used "seen" whereas "heard" would have been a better choice of word. Hardly offending stuff I would say. ====================

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Multiple views?

by Yann Corno

Hello there: I was testing TextMate, which seemed very attractive and promising, but I stumbled upon a very simple difficulty: how do you display 2 files simultaneously? Like having two panes in the editor window, to be able to see two files at the same time, or even two parts of the same file? Thanks for the trick. Yann

20 years, 9 months

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mouse disabled bug

by David Lee

I just had a bug (think i was editing macros when it happened) where the mouse wouldn't select text or move the caret. Restart fixed it. I'd closed the edit macros window. It's only happened once. D

20 years, 9 months

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Feature Request: file encoding in status bar

by jose.campos+tm＠galacsys.com

Hi All(an), Could it be possible to add (for instance in the status bar at the bottom of TM windows) informations about the current file encoding and line endings? And when saving a document, could we have an alert message if the document can not be be saved with the desired encoding? Thanks for all, TM is *really* a time-saver. Have a nice day, -- Jo <W:00°04'37" ; N:47°15'36"> 1....'....12.....'....24.....'....36.....'....48.....'....60.....'....72

20 years, 9 months

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FTP in 1.1?

by Raymond Brigleb

Greetings, Quick question - am I correct in my understanding that 1.1 will have FTP built-in? Haven't heard mention of this lately, want to make sure I'm on the same page here... And Subversion integration in 1.2? I thought this was mentioned on the product web page but it's not. (Removed when the licensing clarification was added?) Sorry, I'm sure this is all in the to-do! -ray

20 years, 9 months

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More icons for TextMate

by Chris Messina

Cyril Seillet has created a bunch of TextMate icons as part of a massive 359 icon set companion to Rad-E8's Minium set (http://www.rad-e8.com/). I've bundled up the TextMate portion as a Pixadex iContainer (http://www.factorycity.net/tmp/DOCUNiUM_TextMate.tgz.gz). If you're interested in the whole set, check it out: http://rimshotdesign.com/ Pretty sweet work. Chris -- Do the evolution. Get Firefox! <http://spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliates&id=5&t=4> Quote of the moment: /"Simplicity is in taking the elegant path. It is also a conscious choice— to achieve simplicity one must eschew complexity. Simple things must be simple."/ -- author unknown

20 years, 9 months

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Feature Request: Todo/Task List

by Christian Schwanke

I'm not sure wether this idea was already mentioned before, so sorry if I'm repeating an old issue. What I'd like to see in TextMate would be support for Todo/Task-"Tags" within a project. I'm thinking of something similar to Eclipse's task management: when I write something like TODO: add stuff here TextMate should recognize the "TODO:" part and add the text behind the ':' to a task-list stored in the project file. It would be great to then have some sort of Task-Group in the Project Drawer to quickly access the TODOs and jump to the position within a file. In Eclipse the recognition of such TODO/TASK-definitions is simply done by using regular expressions. Regards, Christian

20 years, 9 months

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Anyone interested in a Smarty Templates bundle/language?

by Bruno Bronosky

I've never wrote a TM syntax, so I would like to work with someone on this. If you are not familiar, Smarty is the official template engine for PHP. http://smarty.php.net Here's a complex example of Smarty in action: http://bronosky.com/pub/binaryGeek/ Thank you, --==<< R i c h a r d B r o n o s k y >>==--

20 years, 10 months

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textClipping

by Tommaso Passi

Hi, I'm new here, I have a question: TextMate cannot open .textClipping files generated with drag & drop from any apps in Finder? If I open a .textClipping file I can't see nothing, if I drag a .textClipping file in a window of textMate, all is ok. Is this a bug or a feature?

20 years, 10 months

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tm download

by eoghan

Hi Im trying to download the textmate 1.1b5 from the macromates site but am getting a mounting disk failure each time... is there any other place i can download from? thanks Eoghan

20 years, 10 months

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Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why

by Jonathan Ragan-Kelley

Searching through the archives of this list, and other TextMate-related materials, I've seen that this has come up a handful of times, but not in a while, and rarely with much of any response, so I'll ask again: Why does TextMate lack any sort of single-project/multi-window functionality (the most functional and common implementation being arbitrary split panes within the editor windows, as in jEdit, Emacs, Xcode, Visual Studio, et multi al.)? Is there any intention of adding such functionality (in the near future)? I have a hard time imagining how a programmer-centric editor can largely ignore the need of developers to have simple and effective ways to view and edit several documents in the same project simultaneously. Interfaces and implementations, interfaces and clients, refactoring source and destination, etc., etc. I recognize that it is possible to view multiple documents at once, as in any standard document-based app, using multiple windows. However, files opened to separate windows fail to integrate with the project-file functionality and multi-document (tab) organization around which TextMate is built, and, most of all, require heavy use of the dreaded Mouse to do much of anything. I have a hard time imagining how the developers work on this very 30+ KLC app, itself, without the ability to deftly maneuver many files with keyboard alone, and to see more than one thing at a time. The addition of features like cmd-T speaks directly the significance of keyboard navigation of large projects, but in such projects, what on earth are we to do with our widescreen or multi-monitor setups if we can only use one pane? There's only so much of my screen real-estate I could ever allocate to Safari and OmniOutliner to read documentation and keep a to-do list, when the primary thing I need is to keep my head inside my code. I apologize for the rather desperate, frustrated tone creeping up underneath this message -- it's just the type of desperation that could only be created by frequent attempts to use an absolutely glorious, is-everything-I-could-dream-of app, perpetually foiled by a single, fatal (and bizarrely unique, among programmer's editors) flaw in just one small aspect of its implementation which completely prevents me from doing anything more than diddling around and getting frustrated, time and again. Not to mention from forking over the $50 -- nay $100 I would honestly love to pay for this program, if only I could actually use it. The problem is, I greatly appreciate everything that is TextMate. The core idea -- that other editors on OS X just feel wrong -- echoes my sole problem since coming [back] to the platform. And TextMate really does feel right. Oh so right. I just can't actually use it for anything, since I can't quickly, cleanly, and effectively (i.e. with the keyboard, without endlessly mucking about with window sizes and placements) operate on and navigate large multi-file software projects. I understand that TextMate is a focused, relatively small undertaking compared to mammoth editor-beasts like Emacs, or even jEdit these days -- that that is not only the reality of a single-developer project, but the goal. But I can't imagine that at least rudimentary split panes (or some functionally similar interface feature) could possibly be nearly as implementation-heavy as many of the features that seem to be coming every few weeks. You have this nice, object-oriented text view you've created, which can be instantiated many times over (in separate windows) just fine -- why not allow multiple instantiations within sub-windows, using Apple's standard split pane widgets? The key thing which complicates this, of course, is the focus on tabs, and while it's true that there doesn't seem to be an obvious, elegant solution to the problem of tabs for multiple panes, I think those of us who really feel the need for mouse-free management of multiple document views would gladly live with pretty tabs which have to shut themselves off when a window is split into multiple panes, at least until a better solution can be made. After all, tabs are a rather mouse-centric interface element, anyway, as indicated by the enthusiastic introduction of the new cmd-T file open/switch feature. So there we have it. If you can't tell, I've been stewing over this for several months. Now, what are the chances? Is this even on the drawing board? Is there anything I or anyone else could do to help it along (like [not] sending more long, love-lorn emails)? Is anyone else -- besides me and the 2 people who asked after this feature here and on the wiki in the fall -- interested in panes? If not, how on earth do you work with multiple text files simultaneously? I'd really like to know, because hopefully I'm just totally missing something that will improve my [working] life forever. Much love to the creator and users of this fantastic app. And don't worry, I'm putting my straight jacket back on as we speak, and heading to bed in my padded, white room.

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subversion bundle feature request

by kumar mcmillan

Hey-- finally with the Enter-to-commit feature I am almost ready to retire svn in the terminal for Subversion in TextMate (thanks for your work on this Chris). However, whenever I work on a feature, 90% of the time I need to modify several files in my project to implement that one feature. Thus, I keep a terminal tab open at the project directory, and do "svn ci" to commit all those files at once. Could you add an option to the Subversion commands for this? something like "Commit Entire Project". Or am I missing something that already exists for this? I think it would be as simple as: cd "$TM_PROJECT_DIRECTORY" svn commit thanks, Kumar

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Re: [TxMt] subversion

by Paul McCann

Robert Ullrey <robert_ullrey(a)mac.com> wrote: > ********************************************************************* > svn checkout --username anon --password anon http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk ~/Bundles/ For anyone "lucky" enough to be trapped behind an authenticating squid proxy that hasn't been set up to talk the right sort of talk for the webdav requests that svn requires (see http://subversion.tigris.org/faq.html#proxy for the details) it's definitely worth trying the above command with "https" instead of "http". I had been trying without any success to download the TM bundles using svn, and dreading the thought of trying to convince someone in our IT division to recompile squid. Changing the URL to https led to a beautiful flood of files in my ~/Bundles directory. Cheers, Paul

20 years, 10 months

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Interesting instructions for adding Markdown to TM

by Chris Messina

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20050310125513151 I wonder if I should duplicate that tip for Textile or just wait for a bundle (as the first comment suggest of the Markdown bundle)? Chris -- Do the evolution. Get Firefox! <http://spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliates&id=5&t=4> Quote of the moment: /"Simplicity is in taking the elegant path. It is also a conscious choice— to achieve simplicity one must eschew complexity. Simple things must be simple."/ -- author unknown

20 years, 10 months

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TextMate with CSSEdit integration

by Chris Messina

I use TextMate and CSSEdit side by side and feel kinda gyped as a CSS developer (if you can call me a "developer"). I'd love to see an intelligent bundle that basically implemented CSSEdit's grouping, autocomplete and colorization tools. See what I mean: http://www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/6342113/ Any chance of something even close to this happening? Chris -- Do the evolution. Get Firefox! <http://spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliates&id=5&t=4> Quote of the moment: /"Simplicity is in taking the elegant path. It is also a conscious choice— to achieve simplicity one must eschew complexity. Simple things must be simple."/ -- author unknown

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RE: [TxMt] was split panes? now function nav

by max

Thanks for putting up my bundle Eric, forgot to say that you can have the window close automatically by giving it the argument 'c' (which Kumar has set as the default behaviour). It takes quite a bit of time to render the output for me, so I keep it open. I originally wanted to make it for those people who hate to leave the keyboard, by having javascript event listeners for the up and down keys, which would move the highlighted selection. When hitting return, the selection should execute. But Texmate's html window doesn't support all the javascript I wanted. I've included a revised version of the script, and an example of how it was intended to function. Open example.html in a browser to see how it works, down and up keys control selection and return opens the file and line. Can't get it to work in Texmate's html output, if anyone else can, cool. max

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RE: [TxMt] was split panes? now function nav

by Kumar McMillan

-----Original Message----- >Thanks for putting up my bundle Eric, forgot to say that you can have the window close automatically by giving it the argument 'c' (which Kumar has set as the default behaviour). It takes quite a bit of time to render the output for me, so I keep it open. FYI : Allan mentioned on the developer list that HTML output should be a lot faster by beta 6. >I originally wanted to make it for those people who hate to leave the keyboard, by having javascript event listeners for the up and down keys, which would move the highlighted selection. When hitting return, the selection should execute. But Texmate's html window doesn't support all the javascript I wanted. >I've included a revised version of the script, and an example of how it was intended to function. Open example.html in a browser to see how it works, down and up keys control selection and return opens the file and line. Can't get it to work in Texmate's html output, if anyone else can, cool. ahh, interesting. I committed your change for safe keeping (since it doesn't break anything). Maybe someone will know how to get the javascript working for WebKit Kumar

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RE: [TxMt] was split panes? now function nav

by Kumar McMillan

sorry, this seemed to lose the thread ... in reply to the function/ class navigation : Myself and some others have made an effort to bring a function/ class nav to the masses. If you check out the latest Bundles from subversion ( svn co https://anon@macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk ), there are several commands under the Defaults package that list Functions/Classes/Entities: Special Items Popup Special Items List Special Items Window the only two that are mouse-free at the moment are the List and Window output. k -----Original Message----- From: textmate-bounces(a)lists.macromates.com on behalf of James Hill Sent: Mon 3/14/2005 5:09 AM To: textmate(a)lists.macromates.com Subject: [TxMt] Re: Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why (Eric Hsu) Have to say, got a bit lost on the multi project stuff as I don't really see this as necessary however... I know at lease another 3 or 4 people who are holding back due to the lack of split window functionality (same document or multiple). I have a chap here who is still using JEdit despite the slooow Java based (orrible) interface purely for this feature. TextMate is a cracking app and feels properly "Mac", the think lacking being the slit window functionality... oh and function / class navigation (but that can wait). Jamie -- http://www.soniciq.com On 14 Mar 2005, at 09:19, textmate-request(a)lists.macromates.com wrote: > Send textmate mailing list submissions to > textmate(a)lists.macromates.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > textmate-request(a)lists.macromates.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > textmate-owner(a)lists.macromates.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of textmate digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Stupid svn Repository Question (Chris Messina) > 2. Re: Stupid svn Repository Question (Jack Baty) > 3. Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why (Jonathan Ragan-Kelley) > 4. Re: Stupid svn Repository Question (Mark Sapa) > 5. Re: Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why (Eric Hsu) > 6. Re: Stupid svn Repository Question (Eric Hsu) > 7. Re: Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why (Chris Thomas) > 8. Re: Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why (Eric Hsu) > 9. Re: Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why (David Casal) > > From: Chris Messina <factoryjoe(a)factorycity.net> > Date: 13 March 2005 19:43:12 GMT > To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > Subject: Re: [TxMt] Stupid svn Repository Question > Reply-To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > > I'm trying to use svnX and I keep getting this error when I try to > connect: > > subversion/libsvn_ra_dav/util.c:670: (apr_err=175002) > svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn' > subversion/libsvn_ra_dav/util.c:294: (apr_err=175002) > svn: PROPFIND of '/svn': Could not resolve hostname > `macromates.com': No address associated with nodename > (http://macromates.com) > > Any idea why this would be happening? I can connect successfully to > other SVN repositories, so I'm at a loss as to why this is happening. > > Chris > > > Allan Odgaard wrote: > >> On Mar 13, 2005, at 18:50, Brad Miller wrote: >> >>> I just tried to do a fresh checkout myself to see if I could get my >>> changes to the entitynav.py checked in and I'm seeing the same >>> thing. >>> [...] >> >> >> I did a fresh checkout to /tmp, which worked. I changed a command and >> then I also got an error on commit (though not the same), but it >> seems this is a know problem [1]. Since I'd done the new checkout as >> 'anon'. >> >> Using: "svn ci --username duff" solved the problem. Could you try >> this Brad? Giving the correct username after 'anon' has failed *does >> not work*. >> >> [1] http://svn.haxx.se/users/archive-2004-12/0035.shtml >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> For new threads USE THIS: textmate(a)lists.macromates.com >> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't) >> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate > > > > -- > > Do the evolution. Get Firefox! > <http://spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliates&id=5&t=4> > > Quote of the moment: /"Simplicity is in taking the elegant path. It is > also a conscious choice- to achieve simplicity one must eschew > complexity. Simple things must be simple."/ -- author unknown > > > > > > > > From: Jack Baty <jbaty(a)fusionary.com> > Date: 13 March 2005 21:24:15 GMT > To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > Subject: Re: [TxMt] Stupid svn Repository Question > Reply-To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > > A short time ago, for a week or so I could not access anything on the > macromates.com site, including Subversion. Turns out that for some > reason my ISPs name servers had very old data. I changed name servers > and everything, including svn commands, began working again. It's a > long shot but could be worth a look. > > > On Mar 13, 2005, at 2:43 PM, Chris Messina wrote: > >> I'm trying to use svnX and I keep getting this error when I try to >> connect: >> >> subversion/libsvn_ra_dav/util.c:670: (apr_err=175002) >> svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn' >> subversion/libsvn_ra_dav/util.c:294: (apr_err=175002) >> svn: PROPFIND of '/svn': Could not resolve hostname >> `macromates.com': No address associated with nodename >> (http://macromates.com) >> >> Any idea why this would be happening? I can connect successfully to >> other SVN repositories, so I'm at a loss as to why this is happening. >> > > -- > Jack Baty (http://jackbaty.com) > Fusionary Media (http://fusionary.com) > > Good God, don't the villagers carry torches and pitchforks anymore? > > > > > > From: Jonathan Ragan-Kelley <katokop1(a)gmail.com> > Date: 14 March 2005 06:48:50 GMT > To: textmate(a)lists.macromates.com > Subject: [TxMt] Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why > Reply-To: jrk(a)csail.mit.edu, TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > > Searching through the archives of this list, and other > TextMate-related materials, I've seen that this has come up a handful > of times, but not in a while, and rarely with much of any response, so > I'll ask again: > > Why does TextMate lack any sort of single-project/multi-window > functionality (the most functional and common implementation being > arbitrary split panes within the editor windows, as in jEdit, Emacs, > Xcode, Visual Studio, et multi al.)? Is there any intention of adding > such functionality (in the near future)? > > I have a hard time imagining how a programmer-centric editor can > largely ignore the need of developers to have simple and effective > ways to view and edit several documents in the same project > simultaneously. Interfaces and implementations, interfaces and > clients, refactoring source and destination, etc., etc. I recognize > that it is possible to view multiple documents at once, as in any > standard document-based app, using multiple windows. However, files > opened to separate windows fail to integrate with the project-file > functionality and multi-document (tab) organization around which > TextMate is built, and, most of all, require heavy use of the dreaded > Mouse to do much of anything. I have a hard time imagining how the > developers work on this very 30+ KLC app, itself, without the ability > to deftly maneuver many files with keyboard alone, and to see more > than one thing at a time. The addition of features like cmd-T speaks > directly the significance of keyboard navigation of large projects, > but in such projects, what on earth are we to do with our widescreen > or multi-monitor setups if we can only use one pane? There's only so > much of my screen real-estate I could ever allocate to Safari and > OmniOutliner to read documentation and keep a to-do list, when the > primary thing I need is to keep my head inside my code. > > I apologize for the rather desperate, frustrated tone creeping up > underneath this message -- it's just the type of desperation that > could only be created by frequent attempts to use an absolutely > glorious, is-everything-I-could-dream-of app, perpetually foiled by a > single, fatal (and bizarrely unique, among programmer's editors) flaw > in just one small aspect of its implementation which completely > prevents me from doing anything more than diddling around and getting > frustrated, time and again. Not to mention from forking over the $50 > -- nay $100 I would honestly love to pay for this program, if only I > could actually use it. > > The problem is, I greatly appreciate everything that is TextMate. The > core idea -- that other editors on OS X just feel wrong -- echoes my > sole problem since coming [back] to the platform. And TextMate really > does feel right. Oh so right. I just can't actually use it for > anything, since I can't quickly, cleanly, and effectively (i.e. with > the keyboard, without endlessly mucking about with window sizes and > placements) operate on and navigate large multi-file software > projects. > > I understand that TextMate is a focused, relatively small undertaking > compared to mammoth editor-beasts like Emacs, or even jEdit these days > -- that that is not only the reality of a single-developer project, > but the goal. But I can't imagine that at least rudimentary split > panes (or some functionally similar interface feature) could possibly > be nearly as implementation-heavy as many of the features that seem to > be coming every few weeks. You have this nice, object-oriented text > view you've created, which can be instantiated many times over (in > separate windows) just fine -- why not allow multiple instantiations > within sub-windows, using Apple's standard split pane widgets? The > key thing which complicates this, of course, is the focus on tabs, and > while it's true that there doesn't seem to be an obvious, elegant > solution to the problem of tabs for multiple panes, I think those of > us who really feel the need for mouse-free management of multiple > document views would gladly live with pretty tabs which have to shut > themselves off when a window is split into multiple panes, at least > until a better solution can be made. After all, tabs are a rather > mouse-centric interface element, anyway, as indicated by the > enthusiastic introduction of the new cmd-T file open/switch feature. > > So there we have it. If you can't tell, I've been stewing over this > for several months. Now, what are the chances? Is this even on the > drawing board? Is there anything I or anyone else could do to help it > along (like [not] sending more long, love-lorn emails)? > > Is anyone else -- besides me and the 2 people who asked after this > feature here and on the wiki in the fall -- interested in panes? If > not, how on earth do you work with multiple text files simultaneously? > I'd really like to know, because hopefully I'm just totally missing > something that will improve my [working] life forever. > > Much love to the creator and users of this fantastic app. And don't > worry, I'm putting my straight jacket back on as we speak, and heading > to bed in my padded, white room. > > > > > From: Mark Sapa <Mark.Sapa(a)gmx.de> > Date: 14 March 2005 07:12:15 GMT > To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > Subject: Re: [TxMt] Stupid svn Repository Question > Reply-To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > > Hey Allan, just tried your suggestion a few times: > > > Am 13.03.2005 um 19:21 schrieb Allan Odgaard: > >> On Mar 13, 2005, at 18:15, Mark Sapa wrote: >> >>>> [moerk@mungon]~ 501 % rm -rf Bundles >>>> [moerk@mungon]~ 502 % rm -rf .subversion >>>> [moerk@mungon]~ 503 % svn co >>>> http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk Bundles >>>> Authentication realm: <http://macromates.com:80> macromates.com >>>> Password for 'moerk': >> >> Maybe this is related to the bug I just mentioned for Brad [1]. >> >> Could you try instead to do: >> svn co --username anon http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk >> Bundles >> >> So that it won't first prompt for password for moerk. > > > This is the result: > >> [moerk@mungon]~ 546 % rm -rf Bundles >> [moerk@mungon]~ 547 % rm -rf .subversion >> [moerk@mungon]~ 548 % svn co --username anon >> http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk Bundles >> Authentication realm: <http://macromates.com:80> macromates.com >> Password for 'anon': >> svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/Bundles/trunk' >> svn: PROPFIND of '/svn/Bundles/trunk': 400 failed to forward body of >> the request (http://macromates.com) >> [1][moerk@mungon]~ 549 % rm -rf Bundles[moerk@mungon]~ 550 % rm -rf >> .subversion[moerk@mungon]~ 551 % svn co --username anon >> http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk Bundles >> Authentication realm: <http://macromates.com:80> macromates.com >> Password for 'anon': >> svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/Bundles/trunk' >> svn: PROPFIND of '/svn/Bundles/trunk': 403 Forbidden >> (http://macromates.com) >> [1][moerk@mungon]~ 552 % rm -rf Bundles [moerk@mungon]~ 553 % rm >> -rf .subversion[moerk@mungon]~ 554 % svn co --username anon >> http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk Bundles >> Authentication realm: <http://macromates.com:80> macromates.com >> Password for 'anon': >> svn: REPORT request failed on '/svn/Bundles/!svn/vcc/default' >> svn: REPORT of '/svn/Bundles/!svn/vcc/default': 503 unknown method >> (http://macromates.com) > > The first I _might_ attribute to a skippy connection, I was unsure > about my correct typing > of the password in the second, but the third _definitely_ has the > correct pw. > This is with a freshly recompiled version of svn, btw. > > Any more suggestions, anyone? > > Right now I'll try rebuilding the fink svn-client without ssl > support... *shrug* > > > > > > From: Eric Hsu <erichsu(a)math.sfsu.edu> > Date: 14 March 2005 07:27:31 GMT > To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > Subject: Re: [TxMt] Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why > Reply-To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > >> Why does TextMate lack any sort of single-project/multi-window >> functionality (the most functional and common implementation being >> arbitrary split panes within the editor windows, .... >> >> Is anyone else -- besides me and the 2 people who asked after this >> feature here and on the wiki in the fall -- interested in panes? If >> not, how on earth do you work with multiple text files simultaneously? > > I'm confused by the request. One piece talks about many files, one > project (the end). For this, > I use the 'project drawer'. Start a new project. Add the folders that > I am working with (the drawer automatically finds the enclosed files). > Now as I click on files in the hierarchy, they appear as tabs. You can > flip between them using Ctrl-Opt-Arrow. It works pretty well... My > only complaint is that the drawer remembers state oddly. If you add a > folder and want to omit a subfolder (in my case because there are > 1,500 data files in it), TM will add it back when it refreshes; other > times when it refreshes the folders close up. But Allan is aware of > these annoyances... > > The other piece asks for split views of the same document. I think > BBEdit had this, but I used the functionality about once a month. If I > need to jump between subroutines, there are a number of 'jump to > function' commands that are competing in the TM svn repository. The > project I'm working on now is broken up into a bunch of modules that > are in different files anyway. I have been learning how fantastically > indispensable the "Find in Project" command is. > > - Eric > -- > Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics > San Francisco State University > erichsu(a)math.sfsu.edu > http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu > > > > > From: Eric Hsu <erichsu(a)math.sfsu.edu> > Date: 14 March 2005 07:33:42 GMT > To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com>, Mark Sapa > <Mark.Sapa(a)gmx.de> > Cc: Subject: Re: [TxMt] Stupid svn Repository Question > Reply-To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > > At 8:12 AM +0100 3/14/05, Mark Sapa wrote: >> Right now I'll try rebuilding the fink svn-client without ssl >> support... *shrug* > > My svn setup is working great, checkout and checkin. Let's see, how > did I install it... > > My info: svn, version 1.1.1 (r11581) > compiled Oct 23 2004, 17:26:09 > > I think I got it from http://www.codingmonkeys.de/mbo/, which has > packages nicely precompiled for Panther. You are using 10.3, right? > > - Eric > -- > Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics > San Francisco State University > erichsu(a)math.sfsu.edu > http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu > > > > > From: Chris Thomas <chris(a)cjack.com> > Date: 14 March 2005 07:39:19 GMT > To: Eric Hsu <erichsu(a)math.sfsu.edu> > Cc: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > Subject: Re: [TxMt] Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why > Reply-To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > > > On Mar 13, 2005, at 11:27 PM, Eric Hsu wrote: > >> The other piece asks for split views of the same document. I think >> BBEdit had this, but I used the functionality about once a month. If >> I need to jump between subroutines, there are a number of 'jump to >> function' commands that are competing in the TM svn repository. The >> project I'm working on now is broken up into a bunch of modules that >> are in different files anyway. I have been learning how >> fantastically indispensable the "Find in Project" command is. > > BBEdit's implementation is one horizontal split pane, IIRC. Not good > enough. > > Imagine that you have a really large source file. > Imagine that you need to make changes to code at top of the file that > require interrelated changes to stuff at the bottom, and/or vice > versa. > Imagine these changes are too complicated to hold all of the details > in your head. > > You don't need this often, but when you do, it's essential. > > In the past, I've actually used four horizontal split panes working on > the same document at once. That was a particularly intricate case, but > I would certainly use the functionality if I had it now. > Unfortunately, Xcode's pane split UI sucks. MPW did it right (more or > less). > > Chris > > > > > > From: Eric Hsu <erichsu(a)math.sfsu.edu> > Date: 14 March 2005 07:59:13 GMT > To: Chris Thomas <chris(a)cjack.com> > Cc: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com>, Eric Hsu > <erichsu(a)math.sfsu.edu> > Subject: Re: [TxMt] Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why > Reply-To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > >> You don't need this often, but when you do, it's essential. > > Yeah, I was thankful that one time a month I used it. And I would be > happy to have it in TM. The question is always priorities... > > - Eric > -- > Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics > San Francisco State University > erichsu(a)math.sfsu.edu > http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu > > > > > From: David Casal <david(a)luminas.co.uk> > Date: 14 March 2005 09:19:27 GMT > To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > Subject: Re: [TxMt] Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why > Reply-To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > > > On 14 Mar 2005, at 07:59, Eric Hsu wrote: > >>> You don't need this often, but when you do, it's essential. >> >> Yeah, I was thankful that one time a month I used it. And I would be >> happy to have it in TM. The question is always priorities... > > The one thing I miss from jedit is actually being able to open > -several- files in split panes. That's the scenario I used the most, > and the one I'd really love to see in TM. > > David Casal > > > > > _______________________________________________ > textmate mailing list > textmate(a)lists.macromates.com > http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate

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help: pdflatex path

by Mr. Robert Ullrey

Ok, stupid question, but I can not remember how to define the pdflatex path in the shell preferences. something like TM_FILEPATH = usr/local/tetex/..... or is it TM_LATEX_MASTER = usr/local/..... Could someone please remind me. Thanks

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Re: TextMate with CSSEdit integration

by max

Hi, I really like the entities nav thing, here's my version of the output window. It's in an html list and is quite good when you make the window narrow, and have it to accompany your code. Don't have svn access but if anyone thinks it's useful, feel free to put it up there. Max

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Stupid svn Repository Question

by Mark Sapa

Hello everybody, just a stupid question after puttering along with the Bundle repository for a while: Is there an easy way of checking out the entire "trunk" to a local directory? And, after checking out individual bundles, is it normal to get messages like > svn: REPORT request failed on '/svn/Bundles/!svn/vcc/default' > svn: REPORT of '/svn/Bundles/!svn/vcc/default': 503 unknown method > (http://macromates.com) Thanks in advance, Mark Sapa

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Re: [TxMt] Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why

by Chris Thomas

On Mar 13, 2005, at 11:27 PM, Eric Hsu wrote: > The other piece asks for split views of the same document. I think > BBEdit had this, but I used the functionality about once a month. If > I need to jump between subroutines, there are a number of 'jump to > function' commands that are competing in the TM svn repository. The > project I'm working on now is broken up into a bunch of modules that > are in different files anyway. I have been learning how > fantastically indispensable the "Find in Project" command is. BBEdit's implementation is one horizontal split pane, IIRC. Not good enough. Imagine that you have a really large source file. Imagine that you need to make changes to code at top of the file that require interrelated changes to stuff at the bottom, and/or vice versa. Imagine these changes are too complicated to hold all of the details in your head. You don't need this often, but when you do, it's essential. In the past, I've actually used four horizontal split panes working on the same document at once. That was a particularly intricate case, but I would certainly use the functionality if I had it now. Unfortunately, Xcode's pane split UI sucks. MPW did it right (more or less). Chris

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Re: Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why (Eric Hsu)

by James Hill

Have to say, got a bit lost on the multi project stuff as I don't really see this as necessary however... I know at lease another 3 or 4 people who are holding back due to the lack of split window functionality (same document or multiple). I have a chap here who is still using JEdit despite the slooow Java based (orrible) interface purely for this feature. TextMate is a cracking app and feels properly "Mac", the think lacking being the slit window functionality... oh and function / class navigation (but that can wait). Jamie -- http://www.soniciq.com On 14 Mar 2005, at 09:19, textmate-request(a)lists.macromates.com wrote: > Send textmate mailing list submissions to > textmate(a)lists.macromates.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > textmate-request(a)lists.macromates.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > textmate-owner(a)lists.macromates.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of textmate digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Stupid svn Repository Question (Chris Messina) > 2. Re: Stupid svn Repository Question (Jack Baty) > 3. Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why (Jonathan Ragan-Kelley) > 4. Re: Stupid svn Repository Question (Mark Sapa) > 5. Re: Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why (Eric Hsu) > 6. Re: Stupid svn Repository Question (Eric Hsu) > 7. Re: Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why (Chris Thomas) > 8. Re: Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why (Eric Hsu) > 9. Re: Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why (David Casal) > > From: Chris Messina <factoryjoe(a)factorycity.net> > Date: 13 March 2005 19:43:12 GMT > To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > Subject: Re: [TxMt] Stupid svn Repository Question > Reply-To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > > I'm trying to use svnX and I keep getting this error when I try to > connect: > > subversion/libsvn_ra_dav/util.c:670: (apr_err=175002) > svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn' > subversion/libsvn_ra_dav/util.c:294: (apr_err=175002) > svn: PROPFIND of '/svn': Could not resolve hostname > `macromates.com': No address associated with nodename > (http://macromates.com) > > Any idea why this would be happening? I can connect successfully to > other SVN repositories, so I'm at a loss as to why this is happening. > > Chris > > > Allan Odgaard wrote: > >> On Mar 13, 2005, at 18:50, Brad Miller wrote: >> >>> I just tried to do a fresh checkout myself to see if I could get my >>> changes to the entitynav.py checked in and I'm seeing the same >>> thing. >>> [...] >> >> >> I did a fresh checkout to /tmp, which worked. I changed a command and >> then I also got an error on commit (though not the same), but it >> seems this is a know problem [1]. Since I'd done the new checkout as >> 'anon'. >> >> Using: “svn ci --username duff” solved the problem. Could you try >> this Brad? Giving the correct username after 'anon' has failed *does >> not work*. >> >> [1] http://svn.haxx.se/users/archive-2004-12/0035.shtml >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> For new threads USE THIS: textmate(a)lists.macromates.com >> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't) >> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate > > > > -- > > Do the evolution. Get Firefox! > <http://spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliates&id=5&t=4> > > Quote of the moment: /"Simplicity is in taking the elegant path. It is > also a conscious choice— to achieve simplicity one must eschew > complexity. Simple things must be simple."/ -- author unknown > > > > > > > > From: Jack Baty <jbaty(a)fusionary.com> > Date: 13 March 2005 21:24:15 GMT > To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > Subject: Re: [TxMt] Stupid svn Repository Question > Reply-To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > > A short time ago, for a week or so I could not access anything on the > macromates.com site, including Subversion. Turns out that for some > reason my ISPs name servers had very old data. I changed name servers > and everything, including svn commands, began working again. It's a > long shot but could be worth a look. > > > On Mar 13, 2005, at 2:43 PM, Chris Messina wrote: > >> I'm trying to use svnX and I keep getting this error when I try to >> connect: >> >> subversion/libsvn_ra_dav/util.c:670: (apr_err=175002) >> svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn' >> subversion/libsvn_ra_dav/util.c:294: (apr_err=175002) >> svn: PROPFIND of '/svn': Could not resolve hostname >> `macromates.com': No address associated with nodename >> (http://macromates.com) >> >> Any idea why this would be happening? I can connect successfully to >> other SVN repositories, so I'm at a loss as to why this is happening. >> > > -- > Jack Baty (http://jackbaty.com) > Fusionary Media (http://fusionary.com) > > Good God, don't the villagers carry torches and pitchforks anymore? > > > > > > From: Jonathan Ragan-Kelley <katokop1(a)gmail.com> > Date: 14 March 2005 06:48:50 GMT > To: textmate(a)lists.macromates.com > Subject: [TxMt] Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why > Reply-To: jrk(a)csail.mit.edu, TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > > Searching through the archives of this list, and other > TextMate-related materials, I've seen that this has come up a handful > of times, but not in a while, and rarely with much of any response, so > I'll ask again: > > Why does TextMate lack any sort of single-project/multi-window > functionality (the most functional and common implementation being > arbitrary split panes within the editor windows, as in jEdit, Emacs, > Xcode, Visual Studio, et multi al.)? Is there any intention of adding > such functionality (in the near future)? > > I have a hard time imagining how a programmer-centric editor can > largely ignore the need of developers to have simple and effective > ways to view and edit several documents in the same project > simultaneously. Interfaces and implementations, interfaces and > clients, refactoring source and destination, etc., etc. I recognize > that it is possible to view multiple documents at once, as in any > standard document-based app, using multiple windows. However, files > opened to separate windows fail to integrate with the project-file > functionality and multi-document (tab) organization around which > TextMate is built, and, most of all, require heavy use of the dreaded > Mouse to do much of anything. I have a hard time imagining how the > developers work on this very 30+ KLC app, itself, without the ability > to deftly maneuver many files with keyboard alone, and to see more > than one thing at a time. The addition of features like cmd-T speaks > directly the significance of keyboard navigation of large projects, > but in such projects, what on earth are we to do with our widescreen > or multi-monitor setups if we can only use one pane? There's only so > much of my screen real-estate I could ever allocate to Safari and > OmniOutliner to read documentation and keep a to-do list, when the > primary thing I need is to keep my head inside my code. > > I apologize for the rather desperate, frustrated tone creeping up > underneath this message -- it's just the type of desperation that > could only be created by frequent attempts to use an absolutely > glorious, is-everything-I-could-dream-of app, perpetually foiled by a > single, fatal (and bizarrely unique, among programmer's editors) flaw > in just one small aspect of its implementation which completely > prevents me from doing anything more than diddling around and getting > frustrated, time and again. Not to mention from forking over the $50 > -- nay $100 I would honestly love to pay for this program, if only I > could actually use it. > > The problem is, I greatly appreciate everything that is TextMate. The > core idea -- that other editors on OS X just feel wrong -- echoes my > sole problem since coming [back] to the platform. And TextMate really > does feel right. Oh so right. I just can't actually use it for > anything, since I can't quickly, cleanly, and effectively (i.e. with > the keyboard, without endlessly mucking about with window sizes and > placements) operate on and navigate large multi-file software > projects. > > I understand that TextMate is a focused, relatively small undertaking > compared to mammoth editor-beasts like Emacs, or even jEdit these days > -- that that is not only the reality of a single-developer project, > but the goal. But I can't imagine that at least rudimentary split > panes (or some functionally similar interface feature) could possibly > be nearly as implementation-heavy as many of the features that seem to > be coming every few weeks. You have this nice, object-oriented text > view you've created, which can be instantiated many times over (in > separate windows) just fine -- why not allow multiple instantiations > within sub-windows, using Apple's standard split pane widgets? The > key thing which complicates this, of course, is the focus on tabs, and > while it's true that there doesn't seem to be an obvious, elegant > solution to the problem of tabs for multiple panes, I think those of > us who really feel the need for mouse-free management of multiple > document views would gladly live with pretty tabs which have to shut > themselves off when a window is split into multiple panes, at least > until a better solution can be made. After all, tabs are a rather > mouse-centric interface element, anyway, as indicated by the > enthusiastic introduction of the new cmd-T file open/switch feature. > > So there we have it. If you can't tell, I've been stewing over this > for several months. Now, what are the chances? Is this even on the > drawing board? Is there anything I or anyone else could do to help it > along (like [not] sending more long, love-lorn emails)? > > Is anyone else -- besides me and the 2 people who asked after this > feature here and on the wiki in the fall -- interested in panes? If > not, how on earth do you work with multiple text files simultaneously? > I'd really like to know, because hopefully I'm just totally missing > something that will improve my [working] life forever. > > Much love to the creator and users of this fantastic app. And don't > worry, I'm putting my straight jacket back on as we speak, and heading > to bed in my padded, white room. > > > > > From: Mark Sapa <Mark.Sapa(a)gmx.de> > Date: 14 March 2005 07:12:15 GMT > To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > Subject: Re: [TxMt] Stupid svn Repository Question > Reply-To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > > Hey Allan, just tried your suggestion a few times: > > > Am 13.03.2005 um 19:21 schrieb Allan Odgaard: > >> On Mar 13, 2005, at 18:15, Mark Sapa wrote: >> >>>> [moerk@mungon]~ 501 % rm -rf Bundles >>>> [moerk@mungon]~ 502 % rm -rf .subversion >>>> [moerk@mungon]~ 503 % svn co >>>> http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk Bundles >>>> Authentication realm: <http://macromates.com:80> macromates.com >>>> Password for 'moerk': >> >> Maybe this is related to the bug I just mentioned for Brad [1]. >> >> Could you try instead to do: >> svn co --username anon http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk >> Bundles >> >> So that it won't first prompt for password for moerk. > > > This is the result: > >> [moerk@mungon]~ 546 % rm -rf Bundles >> [moerk@mungon]~ 547 % rm -rf .subversion >> [moerk@mungon]~ 548 % svn co --username anon >> http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk Bundles >> Authentication realm: <http://macromates.com:80> macromates.com >> Password for 'anon': >> svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/Bundles/trunk' >> svn: PROPFIND of '/svn/Bundles/trunk': 400 failed to forward body of >> the request (http://macromates.com) >> [1][moerk@mungon]~ 549 % rm -rf Bundles[moerk@mungon]~ 550 % rm -rf >> .subversion[moerk@mungon]~ 551 % svn co --username anon >> http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk Bundles >> Authentication realm: <http://macromates.com:80> macromates.com >> Password for 'anon': >> svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/Bundles/trunk' >> svn: PROPFIND of '/svn/Bundles/trunk': 403 Forbidden >> (http://macromates.com) >> [1][moerk@mungon]~ 552 % rm -rf Bundles [moerk@mungon]~ 553 % rm >> -rf .subversion[moerk@mungon]~ 554 % svn co --username anon >> http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk Bundles >> Authentication realm: <http://macromates.com:80> macromates.com >> Password for 'anon': >> svn: REPORT request failed on '/svn/Bundles/!svn/vcc/default' >> svn: REPORT of '/svn/Bundles/!svn/vcc/default': 503 unknown method >> (http://macromates.com) > > The first I _might_ attribute to a skippy connection, I was unsure > about my correct typing > of the password in the second, but the third _definitely_ has the > correct pw. > This is with a freshly recompiled version of svn, btw. > > Any more suggestions, anyone? > > Right now I'll try rebuilding the fink svn-client without ssl > support... *shrug* > > > > > > From: Eric Hsu <erichsu(a)math.sfsu.edu> > Date: 14 March 2005 07:27:31 GMT > To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > Subject: Re: [TxMt] Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why > Reply-To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > >> Why does TextMate lack any sort of single-project/multi-window >> functionality (the most functional and common implementation being >> arbitrary split panes within the editor windows, .... >> >> Is anyone else -- besides me and the 2 people who asked after this >> feature here and on the wiki in the fall -- interested in panes? If >> not, how on earth do you work with multiple text files simultaneously? > > I'm confused by the request. One piece talks about many files, one > project (the end). For this, > I use the 'project drawer'. Start a new project. Add the folders that > I am working with (the drawer automatically finds the enclosed files). > Now as I click on files in the hierarchy, they appear as tabs. You can > flip between them using Ctrl-Opt-Arrow. It works pretty well... My > only complaint is that the drawer remembers state oddly. If you add a > folder and want to omit a subfolder (in my case because there are > 1,500 data files in it), TM will add it back when it refreshes; other > times when it refreshes the folders close up. But Allan is aware of > these annoyances... > > The other piece asks for split views of the same document. I think > BBEdit had this, but I used the functionality about once a month. If I > need to jump between subroutines, there are a number of 'jump to > function' commands that are competing in the TM svn repository. The > project I'm working on now is broken up into a bunch of modules that > are in different files anyway. I have been learning how fantastically > indispensable the "Find in Project" command is. > > - Eric > -- > Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics > San Francisco State University > erichsu(a)math.sfsu.edu > http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu > > > > > From: Eric Hsu <erichsu(a)math.sfsu.edu> > Date: 14 March 2005 07:33:42 GMT > To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com>, Mark Sapa > <Mark.Sapa(a)gmx.de> > Cc: Subject: Re: [TxMt] Stupid svn Repository Question > Reply-To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > > At 8:12 AM +0100 3/14/05, Mark Sapa wrote: >> Right now I'll try rebuilding the fink svn-client without ssl >> support... *shrug* > > My svn setup is working great, checkout and checkin. Let's see, how > did I install it... > > My info: svn, version 1.1.1 (r11581) > compiled Oct 23 2004, 17:26:09 > > I think I got it from http://www.codingmonkeys.de/mbo/, which has > packages nicely precompiled for Panther. You are using 10.3, right? > > - Eric > -- > Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics > San Francisco State University > erichsu(a)math.sfsu.edu > http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu > > > > > From: Chris Thomas <chris(a)cjack.com> > Date: 14 March 2005 07:39:19 GMT > To: Eric Hsu <erichsu(a)math.sfsu.edu> > Cc: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > Subject: Re: [TxMt] Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why > Reply-To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > > > On Mar 13, 2005, at 11:27 PM, Eric Hsu wrote: > >> The other piece asks for split views of the same document. I think >> BBEdit had this, but I used the functionality about once a month. If >> I need to jump between subroutines, there are a number of 'jump to >> function' commands that are competing in the TM svn repository. The >> project I'm working on now is broken up into a bunch of modules that >> are in different files anyway. I have been learning how >> fantastically indispensable the "Find in Project" command is. > > BBEdit's implementation is one horizontal split pane, IIRC. Not good > enough. > > Imagine that you have a really large source file. > Imagine that you need to make changes to code at top of the file that > require interrelated changes to stuff at the bottom, and/or vice > versa. > Imagine these changes are too complicated to hold all of the details > in your head. > > You don't need this often, but when you do, it's essential. > > In the past, I've actually used four horizontal split panes working on > the same document at once. That was a particularly intricate case, but > I would certainly use the functionality if I had it now. > Unfortunately, Xcode's pane split UI sucks. MPW did it right (more or > less). > > Chris > > > > > > From: Eric Hsu <erichsu(a)math.sfsu.edu> > Date: 14 March 2005 07:59:13 GMT > To: Chris Thomas <chris(a)cjack.com> > Cc: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com>, Eric Hsu > <erichsu(a)math.sfsu.edu> > Subject: Re: [TxMt] Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why > Reply-To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > >> You don't need this often, but when you do, it's essential. > > Yeah, I was thankful that one time a month I used it. And I would be > happy to have it in TM. The question is always priorities... > > - Eric > -- > Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics > San Francisco State University > erichsu(a)math.sfsu.edu > http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu > > > > > From: David Casal <david(a)luminas.co.uk> > Date: 14 March 2005 09:19:27 GMT > To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > Subject: Re: [TxMt] Split Panes: who/what/when/where/why > Reply-To: TM Users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > > > On 14 Mar 2005, at 07:59, Eric Hsu wrote: > >>> You don't need this often, but when you do, it's essential. >> >> Yeah, I was thankful that one time a month I used it. And I would be >> happy to have it in TM. The question is always priorities... > > The one thing I miss from jedit is actually being able to open > -several- files in split panes. That's the scenario I used the most, > and the one I'd really love to see in TM. > > David Casal > > > > > _______________________________________________ > textmate mailing list > textmate(a)lists.macromates.com > http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate

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Opening large files

by Christian Bogen

I just tried to open the recently published BoingBoing 2000-2005 archive file (about 18 MB in size) in TM and it took 1 minute and 25 seconds (!!) (I actually used a stopp watch when opening it a second time) with a spinning beach ball and the fan on my PB (12" 867 Mhz with 640 MB RAM running 10.3.8) basically going berserk. Is that a beta problem (I'm using b5) or is this behaviour »normal«? (Just for the record: TW opened the same file in less than 10 seconds!) Christian

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Cmd key shows shortcut key

by Nednieuws

In BBEdit, pressing the Cmd key in the Find dialog shows all shortcuts. E.g. if I hold the Cmd key down "Replace" will change to "Cmd-R Replace". This way, you don't need the mouse. Would that be possible with TextMate? -- Regards, Charles.

20 years, 10 months

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Problems with b5 and services menu / BOM follow-up question

by Christian Bogen

Hi, I'm experiencing some problems with b5 and the Services menu: TextMate doesn't seem to register itself in the menu and the contents of Services > Insert are greyed out when accessed from within TextMate. Any ideas? Known b5 problem? Also I'd like to know if future TM version will let you, as an option, create new UTF-8 files with BOM? (I know it preserves existing BOMs ...) Thanks in advance! Kind regards Christian

20 years, 10 months

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multiselect cmd-t window

by Lang Riley

I am lovin' the cmd-T window, very nice. Any possibility it might be multiselect in the future? I often have need to pull up a class and its similarly named unit test class and perhaps a similarly named test fixture. It would be nice to grab them all in one shot, since they typically show up right next to each other in the window. Not a big deal though. -- Best regards, Lang Riley

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Re: [TxMt] Some Bundle Questions

by Chris Thomas

On Mar 9, 2005, at 9:48 PM, Eric Ocean wrote: > > Now, Add to Repository fails with: > > /bin/bash: line 11: ruby: command not found This is probably the BASH_ENV problem. We should fail more gracefully and support TM_RUBY, but -- currently -- we don't. Date: January 27, 2005 4:38:47 AM PST From: cryo(a)cyanite.org Subject: Re: [TxMt] ruby not found error To: textmate(a)lists.macromates.com Reply-To: textmate(a)lists.macromates.com On 27. jan 2005, at 13:15, David Casal wrote: > Hello all, > > Stupid question here...I have: > > ruby /Users/dc/Documents/txt/scripts/todo2log.rb $TM_FILEPATH It can't locate ruby _here_.. doesn't matter if the shebang is right later on (it's not even used). Most likely your ruby-path is setup in ~/.bash_profile, which is not sourced by TM. A solution that should fix everything path-related: Make a file in your home-dir, say .bash_env and have it contain: source /etc/profile source ~/.bash_profile Then set TM's BASH_ENV variable to: ~/.bash_env That should source all relevant path stuff. A completely different solution is of course to call the script directly: /Users/dc/Documents/txt/scripts/todo2log.rb $TM_FILEPATH ..it needs to be +x of course, for this to work. http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate

20 years, 10 months

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project drawer sorting

by eoghan

Hello Is there any way to get the project drawer to sort files automatically? I know you can drag them up and down, but Id like it if it sorted auto... Thanks Eoghan

20 years, 10 months

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[OT] IRC on Macs

by Raymond Brigleb

Greetings, This is a bit off topic... but I'm already composing the email so hey. Anybody recommend a good Mac IRC client? I haven't been on IRC for years, and never since switching to Mac. I've searched a bit but thought maybe someone could make a recommendation since many folks on here seem to discuss this project on IRC (which is my goal as well). Thanks! Raymond

20 years, 10 months

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Some Bundle Questions

by Eric Ocean

I'm having trouble with the Subversion bundle, and I can't seem to get the Rails bundle to load. Subversion commands always respond that my file is not a 'working copy'. Executing the identical command using svn works fine. I've set (correctly) the TM_SVN shell variable in the preferences. The Rails bundle is located in ~/Library/Application Support/TextMate/Bundles/, right next to the Subversion bundle, which does load. I checked the Rails bundle out using svn co. Any ideas? Best, Eric

20 years, 10 months

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interesting bookmark behavior

by Lang Riley

Just want to throw this out there: (1) place bookmark in file at the signature of a Ruby method (2) comment out the whole method displaces the bookmark so that it now moves itself to be after the commented out code? Seems strange to me. Feature or bug? I love bookmarks though : ) -- Best regards, Lang Riley

20 years, 10 months

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Feature Request: Full Project Path of File in Window Title Bar

by Eric Ocean

I use TextMate to do Rails development, so a window title like "index.rhtml" isn't all that helpful since I need to know *which* index.rhtml it is -- something I can determine by seeing what directory it's in. Please show the project (not file system) path in the window title bar, such as (in the index.rhtml case above): site/app/views/member/index.rhtml Thanks for a great product, Eric

20 years, 10 months

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Command or Macro help

by Ketan Anjaria

Not sure if this needs to be a command or macro or what but I can't seem to figure this out. I need the ability to output parameters of functions so if I have the following code (actionscript): GenericList_prototype.name = function (param1,param2) { statement; } I want to be able to click anywhere within the function, hit a key (command T) and have the text changed to: GenericList_prototype.name = function (param1,param2) { trace("GenericList.name > param1 = " + param1 + " > param2 = " + param2); statement; } This is so I can output parameters to functions. Any ideas? Not even sure where to start. Ketan Anjaria fire(a)kidbombay.com www.kidbombay.com

20 years, 10 months

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Transmit: How to open in tabs?

by Nednieuws

When I tell Transmit to open files in TextMate, multiple windows scatter the screen. Is it possible to have these open in tabs? -- Regards, Charles.

20 years, 10 months

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REQ: Project drawer to display finder label colors of files

by Tom Lazar

as i'm beginning to use textmate for more and more of my daily work, i'm also discovering more and more features i'd like to see implemented ;-) so, for the record: i'd love to see the project drawer display the label colors that i've assigned via the finder for a file. thanks for considering, tom -- tom lazar <tom(a)tomster.org> http://tomster.org

20 years, 10 months

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incremental search

by Lang Riley

I definitely enjoy using incremental forward and backward search, but was wondering if in the future we could elect to use regexps with it, that would be really nice. I miss that from vim. -- Best regards, Lang Riley

20 years, 10 months

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TextMate as a PHP editor

by Bruno Bronosky

I feel like an idiot for asking this, since I completely switched from BBEdit a month ago. But, here goes... Is it possible to to highlight PHP and HTML at the same time. The only way to get HTML to highlight (that I can find) is to use the syntax "HTML (Basic)". There is a "PHP" and an "HTML (PHP)", but they both render the HTML as gray. Solution? Anybody? Thank you, --==<< R i c h a r d B r o n o s k y >>==--

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Re: [TxMt] subversion plugin: keyboard-only operation possible?

by Chris Thomas

On Mar 7, 2005, at 1:02 PM, Jack Baty wrote: > Just to confirm, the return key will still work the same, but you'll > map the enter key to accept the dialog? Just wanted to make sure I'll > still be able to enter returns in my commit messages. Yes indeed. I just committed a revision that maps the enter key -- but not the return key -- to the Commit button. It also maps the escape key to the Cancel button, and AppKit thoughtfully provides the classic Mac key sequence command-period as equivalent to escape (for this purpose). > And I've gotta say that even though I'm a terminal junkie, command-B > is my new favorite thing about TextMate. The Diff and Blame outputs > completely made my day the first time I saw them. Hmm... I didn't intentionally set the command key to B for the entire menu. I wonder if I duplicated the Build With Xcode command when I first created the Subversion bundle? Or did someone else make that change? Chris

20 years, 10 months

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TextMate and Transmit

by Andreas Næsby Rasmussen

Hey everyone, I assume that I am missing something which is obvious to everyone, but I can't seem to be able to save a file in TextMate which I have opened with the "Edit in TextMate" command in Transmit 3.02. When I try to save it just beeps and ignores me. It works in eg. SubEthaEdit, and it is exactly what I bought TextMate for, so it annoys me a little. Is this an error in Transmit, or something I'm missing? anr Stupid gravity! -- Homer Simpson

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Re: [TxMt] subversion plugin: keyboard-only operation possible?

by Chris Thomas

On Mar 7, 2005, at 9:23 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote: > Chris, do you think you could let enter acknowledge the commit > message? Although people with laptops probably don't have this key!?! Ah. Yes, I'll set this up. PowerBook users can use fn + return for enter, IIRC. Chris

20 years, 10 months

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how to activate project drawer via keyboard?

by Tom Lazar

since i've brought up the subject of navigation-without-a-mouse... is there a way to move the focus from the editing window to the project drawer (i.e. to commit an entire folder) using the keyboard? the reverse is possible with an obscure amount of pressing the tab key. but back? best regards, tom -- tom lazar <tom(a)tomster.org> http://tomster.org

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Re: [TxMt] subversion plugin: keyboard-only operation possible?

by Chris Thomas

On Mar 7, 2005, at 8:29 AM, Tom Lazar wrote: > hello again, > > now that i've figured out how to use the subversion plugin (and > finally saw that applying multiple commands to the same keystroke can > be really useful!) i've only got one gripe left: i can't seem to > initiate any action (i.e. commit) using the keyboard only. in the end > i always need to click on a button (i.e. commit) using the mouse. > > being a terminal-, quicksilver- AND textmate user this, of course, > drives me nuts ;-) > > any workaround/solution? When the menu pops up with multiple commands, use standard Mac OS X menu navigation keys to move around. Press the up/down arrow keys to move the selection, or type the first few letters of the command. Chris

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subversion plugin: keyboard-only operation possible?

by Tom Lazar

hello again, now that i've figured out how to use the subversion plugin (and finally saw that applying multiple commands to the same keystroke can be really useful!) i've only got one gripe left: i can't seem to initiate any action (i.e. commit) using the keyboard only. in the end i always need to click on a button (i.e. commit) using the mouse. being a terminal-, quicksilver- AND textmate user this, of course, drives me nuts ;-) any workaround/solution? thanks, tom -- tom lazar <tom(a)tomster.org> http://tomster.org

20 years, 10 months

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Re: TextMate and Transmit

by Andreas Næsby Rasmussen

On Mar 6, 2005, at 22:13, textmate-request(a)lists.macromates.com wrote: > OMG! Are they using the normal error beep for this? I'd say whether or > not they should change it is not even up for discussion. > > The authors of Transmit should read about Pavlov's dogs: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditioning Heh, I asked whether it was an error and I find the discussion ended up with whether we are dogs or not. :-D Well anyhow - of course I opened the file to see whether my changes were saved - and they were not. As I said when I open the same file with SubEthaEdit I can save and it will work - but not in TextMate. This is the case for all the files I tested. The ones who have it working - are you using SFTP as well? anr I hope you've learned your lesson, Lisa - never help anyone. - Homer Simpson

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Re: [TxMt] Documentation (was: Background/foreground colors)

by Chris Thomas

On Mar 4, 2005, at 4:40 PM, Nednieuws wrote: > Op 5-mrt-05 om 1:37 heeft Tobias Luetke het volgende geschreven: > >> Plus you have its dev as loyal fan if any additional features are >> needed. >> >>> >>> Instead of using a wiki, you should check out hieraki.org. Looks >>> like a >>> wiki but goes further and feels way better. > > Just to clarify: Hieraki invites you to write a document, not a > snippet, which is my main gripe with how people tend to use a wiki. I really, really like this approach. I'll be using this for some of my own projects. Hieraki even improves on the usual two-step wiki preview process. Very cool. I guess this is as good a time as any to say that I don't like PmWiki at all. The site structuring system feels weird; the basic formatting operators are clunky; the style is not attractive. IMHO. :) Chris

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subversion bundle broken?

by Tom Lazar

hello, i've checked out a current revision of the Bundle repository (rev. 429) and when I try to use any of the new subversion commands I get the following error: /Volumes/Data/Applications/TextMate.app/Contents/SharedSupport/Bundles/ Subversion.tmbundle/Tools/format_status.rb:49: undefined method `[]' for nil (NameError) from /Volumes/Data/Applications/TextMate.app/Contents/SharedSupport/Bundles/ Subversion.tmbundle/Tools/format_status.rb:46:in `call' from /Volumes/Data/Applications/TextMate.app/Contents/SharedSupport/Bundles/ Subversion.tmbundle/Tools/Builder.rb:226:in `_nested_structures' from /Volumes/Data/Applications/TextMate.app/Contents/SharedSupport/Bundles/ Subversion.tmbundle/Tools/Builder.rb:148:in `method_missing' from /Volumes/Data/Applications/TextMate.app/Contents/SharedSupport/Bundles/ Subversion.tmbundle/Tools/format_status.rb:46 from /Volumes/Data/Applications/TextMate.app/Contents/SharedSupport/Bundles/ Subversion.tmbundle/Tools/format_status.rb:44:in `each_line' from /Volumes/Data/Applications/TextMate.app/Contents/SharedSupport/Bundles/ Subversion.tmbundle/Tools/format_status.rb:44 from /Volumes/Data/Applications/TextMate.app/Contents/SharedSupport/Bundles/ Subversion.tmbundle/Tools/format_status.rb:43:in `call' from /Volumes/Data/Applications/TextMate.app/Contents/SharedSupport/Bundles/ Subversion.tmbundle/Tools/Builder.rb:226:in `_nested_structures' ... 6 levels... from /Volumes/Data/Applications/TextMate.app/Contents/SharedSupport/Bundles/ Subversion.tmbundle/Tools/format_status.rb:29:in `call' from /Volumes/Data/Applications/TextMate.app/Contents/SharedSupport/Bundles/ Subversion.tmbundle/Tools/Builder.rb:226:in `_nested_structures' from /Volumes/Data/Applications/TextMate.app/Contents/SharedSupport/Bundles/ Subversion.tmbundle/Tools/Builder.rb:148:in `method_missing' from /Volumes/Data/Applications/TextMate.app/Contents/SharedSupport/Bundles/ Subversion.tmbundle/Tools/format_status.rb:29 I've installed subversion from the 'official' binary package at http://metissian.com/projects/macosx/subversion/ before setting TM_SVN to ''/usr/local/bin/svn' it wouldn't run at all, complaining, that it can't find 'svn' (which is odd, as /usr/local/bin is in $PATH... any ideas? thanks in advance, tom -- Tom Lazar, http://tomster.org

20 years, 10 months

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Background/foreground colors

by Raymond Brigleb

Greetings! I'm trying to change the background/foreground colors, which only seems to work on documents w/out syntax highlighting. I set my background to black, but when I open a PHP file it has a white background. I set my background to white, but when I open a Ruby file it shows up black. Is this deliberate? Do I have to learn how to rewrite the syntax rules to make this change? Frankly, it seems quite counter-intuitive. Why offer that option if it usually doesn't even work? If there is a simple answer, can someone direct me to it? I would be ever so grateful. Also, is there a manual for this software? Between the mailing list, the startup tips, the newsgroup, the wiki, and the blog, I'm near my wit's end. I do like this program, but I assumed that it would come with documentation!!! Frankly, using this feels more like a scavenger hunt, not exactly par for commercial software. Please don't take me wrong, I'm just a little frustrated. Regards, Raymond

20 years, 10 months

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getting prefs to stick

by Lang Riley

Is there any way to get preferences for search dialogs to last across an OS restart? For instance, the regexp checkbox. I almost always want that to be checked. I have noticed that it sticks when restarting TM during the same OS session, but not across reboots. -- Best regards, Lang Riley

20 years, 10 months

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Good news, bad news

by Nednieuws

The bad news is, my trusted old BBEdit is no longer my main editor. The good news is, I just became TM Member #942 :) -- Regards, Charles.

20 years, 10 months

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Re: [TxMt] subversion bundle broken?

by Chris Thomas

On Mar 5, 2005, at 5:38 AM, Tom Lazar wrote: > /Volumes/Data/Applications/TextMate.app/Contents/SharedSupport/ > Bundles/Subversion.tmbundle/Tools/format_status.rb:49: undefined > method `[]' for nil (NameError) This is an old thinko on my part, now fixed (thanks for catching it!). Please svn update to the latest format_status.rb and give it another shot. Chris

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open Safari Source in TM

by Fred B.

Hi, I made a script that opens the source of the frontmost Safari document in TextMate, with syntax-coloring. I used a similar one for BBEdit a long time ago. (or was it only 5 months? ;) With Applescript, it always look quite easy when you start, then you end up spending hours to get it to work properly. AS is as easy to read as it's hard to write. But it works! You can see I'm a little AS challenged, so advices are welcome. Basically, it takes the source and the title of the frontmost Safari window (warns you if there is none, or if it's blank), remove "http://" and replace any "/" in the title with ":", makes a file in /tmp with the title as name (adding ".html" if it's not already there) and opens it in TM. Should I put it on the wiki or in the repository? Hope this can be useful to someone. -- Fred Download it here: http://osxgeek.org/tm/Source2TM.zip or copy/paste it Script Editor. ======================================================================== = tell application "Safari" if not (exists document 1) then display dialog "You need to open a web location first!" buttons {"OK"} default button 1 return end if set mySource to the source of front document as text if (length of mySource is 0) then display dialog "You need to open a web location first!" buttons {"OK"} default button 1 return end if set myName to name of front document as text end tell try tell application "TextMate" to activate set myName to replace_chars(myName, "http://", "") set myName to replace_chars(myName, "/", ":") if (myName ends with ".html") or (myName ends with ".htm") then set myPath to "/tmp/" & myName else set myPath to "/tmp/" & myName & ".html" end if do shell script "rm -f " & quoted form of myPath do shell script "echo " & quoted form of mySource & " >> " & quoted form of myPath do shell script "open -a TextMate " & quoted form of myPath end try on replace_chars(this_text, search_string, replacement_string) set AppleScript's text item delimiters to the search_string set the item_list to every text item of this_text set AppleScript's text item delimiters to the replacement_string set this_text to the item_list as string set AppleScript's text item delimiters to "" return this_text end replace_chars ======================================================================== =

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How do I copy a file from within the drawer?

by Nednieuws

Option-drag doesn't work and there's no option for it when clicking the scripts icon. -- Regards, Charles.

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PDF Browser Plugin crash (fix)

by Allan Odgaard

I just got this from Schubert: I have fixed a bug that could cause it to crash when the initialization of the PDF document fails in the most recent version. If you still have documents that cause a crash please forward them to me. It was released 2nd of March, so I'd encourage people to update, and if you experience a crash, send him the PDF causing the problem.

20 years, 10 months

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A way to generate HTML of highlighted code?

by Bruno Bronosky

I regularly post code onto blogs and would love to get what I see in TextMate (highlighting and such) to be represented with HTML. I there a method in place for doing this? Thank you, --==<< R i c h a r d B r o n o s k y >>==--

20 years, 10 months

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Folding

by Edmund Harriss

Hi I am just trying out TextMate and have been impressed, however I am a bit confused by the folding. The main problem comes when I click on the arrow for a fold opening (down arrow), it simply folds to the next fold closing (up arrow). If a new fold opening occured in the middle then it ignores this. From looking at the lists and so on I think this might have something to do with indentation, however I am using latex, which it is not natural to indent. best wishes Edmund ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ Problems worthy Edmund Harriss of attack Queen Mary, University of London prove their worth edmund.harriss(a)mathematicians.org.uk by hitting back. http://www.mathematicians.org.uk/eoh Piet Hein 1905-1996 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------

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Unable to use umlaut

by Nednieuws

This is weird. I'm trying to enter an 'ë' but I can't. 'é' works fine, though. Why is that? -- Regards, Charles.

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Character-set/encoding in HTML documents.

by Sune Foldager

There has been some talk here and on the bundle dev list about character sets and entities in HTML documents. Here is some information that might be useful. First of all, there is no need to use entities in HTML documents for such things as é è ê ë etc., as it only makes them harder to read, to edit and to parse. When using utf-8, the entire utf-8 range CAN be used directly. As far as I know, the only entities needed are: & > < In order to not confuse the parser. No, all this only works if the document is sent by the server as UTF-8. Someone wrote on the dev-list that he makes sure this is the case by putting a meta-tag in the document (using http-equiv). Unfortunately, most popular web-servers (well, at least Apache ;-)) doesn't look at the document to see if you included such a tag, and will always add a char-set header to the HTTP response. This defaults to iso-8859-1 and _overrides_ the one specified in the document meta-tag. Maybe this is not in line with the standard, but it is nevertheless what happens in practice. So we need to make the server send the content as utf-8 instead. With Apache we have several alternatives: 1) Enable MultiViews using (in .htaccess) Options +MultiViews and rename the document to name.html.utf8 or name.php.utf8 etc. MultiViews also allow for content-type and language negotiation so you can refer to a picture with 'name' and have several versions on disk 'name.jpeg', 'name.png' etc. The same goes for omitting the .php and .html extensions. Note that some web-servers may be setup to prevent you from enabling MultiViews like this. 2) Set the default charset for all text/html and text/plain content. This will of course also include php, ruby and cgi in general. You can do this by putting: AddDefaultCharset utf-8 in your .htaccess file. This is probably the easiest way. 3) Set the charset to utf-8 for some file-extensions only. This hardly seem useful, and could probably be of more use by setting the charset to something ELSE than utf-8 for certain files, e.g. name.txt or similar. The syntax is (in the .htaccess file): AddCharset <charset> <extensions...>, e.g. AddCharset iso-8859-1 .txt .text. Note that there doesn't seem to be any way to add charsets to specific mime-types, but only extensions. Of the methods above I recommend 2, although enabling MultiViews is generally a Good Thing™, in my opinion. -- Sune :: http://cyanite.org/ "And now there is merely silence, silence, silence, saying all we did not know."

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Textmate Crash

by Ryan

I have just downloaded TextMate 1.0.2 and 1.1b5 and they both crash at startup, which is a real bummer because i really need a nice text editor for OS X. When I open TextEdit it seems to start up, and shows a new blank text window for about 3 seconds, then proceds to crash. The crash report is affixed. Looking back in the mailing list archives it sounded like someone else had a similar problem, but i didn't see a resolution. Thanks in advance --Ryan Date/Time: 2005-02-15 21:36:16 -0800 OS Version: 10.3.8 (Build 7U16) Report Version: 2 Command: TextMate Path: /Volumes/TextMate/TextMate.app/Contents/MacOS/TextMate Version: 1.0.2 (1.0.2) PID: 391 Thread: 0 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000 Thread 0 Crashed: PPC Thread State: srr0: 0x00000000 srr1: 0x4200f030 vrsave: 0x00000000 cr: 0x24022242 xer: 0x20000004 lr: 0x00000000 ctr: 0x931c7154 r0: 0x00000000 r1: 0xbfffd5f0 r2: 0x54000000 r3: 0x00367930 r4: 0x90891628 r5: 0x00000000 r6: 0x003616e0 r7: 0x61626c65 r8: 0x61626c65 r9: 0x00000024 r10: 0x000007c8 r11: 0x00000001 r12: 0x931c7154 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000001 r16: 0x0032fe30 r17: 0xa2dfb274 r18: 0xa2deb274 r19: 0xa2dfb274 r20: 0xa2deb274 r21: 0x00000000 r22: 0x00361710 r23: 0x00361610 r24: 0x00d16ee0 r25: 0x00367930 r26: 0x00000078 r27: 0x90198088 r28: 0xbfffd660 r29: 0x00740053 r30: 0x90196378 r31: 0x00720074 Binary Images Description: 0x1000 - 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20 years, 10 months

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Bug: Inability to group files

by Saul Rosenbaum

I've run into a rather annoying bug, seem that if I create a project by dragging a folder of files onto TextMate, I can't group files, has anyone else had problem with this? If I create a project from within TextMate and then add files one at a time to it, I can group them. any ideas? -- -------------------------------------------- saul rosenbaum www.visualchutzpah.com

20 years, 10 months

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Wish: vertical lines indicating tab stops

by Nednieuws

Another thing I miss from BBEdit: Would it be possible to have vertical lines show in a faint shade of grey so that it's easy to see at which indent level you are? Of course, this should come /after/ SFTP and SVN :). (Btw, those are the things why I still use BBEdit as my main editor.) If there is another way of asking for features—or better yet checking how often something is requested, please let me know. -- Regards, Charles.

20 years, 10 months

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Tab emulation language dependent

by Chris Jenkins

Having just started to do some Python coding, I have discovered that Python seems to prefer spaces instead of tabs for its indenting, so I've switched the setting in the prefs, which is fine, but I was wondering whether there is any way to make this setting language dependent as I do a lot of Actionscript work as well, where tabs are more normal for indenting. Regards all, Chris Jenkins ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

20 years, 10 months

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Problem with HTML Color Picker Command

by Ian

When I run the HTML color picker command i get: ## Component Manager: attempting to find symbols in a component alias of type (regR/carP/x!bt) in addition to the hex value for the color. Any ideas of how to fix this? Cheers, Ian

20 years, 10 months

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TextMate crashes on startup every time

by Andrew Dupont

I use TextMate at work and love it, but on my home computer it crashes upon startup. (Both machines are running 10.3.8.) I've tried both 1.0.2 and the beta release. After some research, I find that my problem is practically identical to this one... http://lists.macromates.com/pipermail/textmate/2005-February/003009.html ...which is why I won't include a crash log unless it's requested, since as far as I can tell mine is the same as his. Unfortunately, the problem never seemed to get resolved. I imagine there's some sort of conflict with something I've installed previously, but I'm not inclined to uninstall things one by one just to see what happens. Are there any ideas as to what could be the problem? Andrew Dupont

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UTF-8 No BOM

by Nednieuws

Is it possible to have TM export to UTF-8 without a byte order marker like BBEdit does? -- Regards, Charles.

20 years, 10 months

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encryption command advice for TM "journal"

by Paul Nordstrom August

I had been using Jotz (until it became Bloatz), then MacJournal and tried DevonThink (which I may still purchase--it's pretty cool). But since I have TM open all the time anyway I have an "info" project where I store various bits of data. There's no RTF or images but I can live without them and I like the portability of plain text. What I would like is an on-the-fly encryption -- i.e. select the text and run a command to encrypt it (with a pre-set password). Then I could store bank data etc securely. Any tips on how this might be done? I know there is command-line encryption of various kinds but I'm not sure how I could store a password w/in TM for global use. thanks! Paul PS looking forward to the new PHP bundle!

20 years, 10 months

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Regex Questions (=Big confusion & massive problems)

by Mats Persson

OK, not sure how to explain this simply and clearly. So here goes :) Reworking the CSS syntax file and I've decided to separate things like this: SELECTORS:: Main selector group should be grabbing anything in front of { but not { begin = "[^} \\t{/@][^{]*?"; end = "(?=/\\*|\\{|\\s|$)"; Subpatterns |-> selectors.html-elements = matching all HTML tags |-> selectors.classes = UserDefined classes = matching any word with a . in front of it |-> selectors.id = UserDefined #Ids = matching any word with a # in front of it |-> selectors.pseudo-class = :hover, :link etc PROPERTIES:: catching everything between the { } with the requisite sub-patterns. begin = "\\{"; end = "\\}"; The problems I am having is that I can catch either the Selectors OR the Properties, but NOT both at the same time. The Selectors Regex above enables the Properties to work, but not the Selectors. Somehow lost the working regex for Selectors right now, but think I was using: begin = "^[^{]*?"; end = "(\\{)"; What am I doing wrong, where the hell is this thing falling apart ?????? I'm going nuts and has been on the verge of throwing the damn thing out of the window. Please save my 'puter from an untimely death : ) Going to sleep now, hoping for a better day tomorrow. =================== Example Code: /* a comment */ body { /* inside properties comment */ properties: value; } div, .classname, #IDname:hover { /* inside properties comment here too */ properties: value; } /* another comment */ End Example Code: Kind regards, Mats ---- "TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease" - www.macromates.com -

20 years, 10 months

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Feature request: Firefox-like find

by Thijs van der Vossen

Wouldn't it be really nice if the find function was shown at the bottom of the window like it is done in Firefox? Regards, Thijs -- Fingertips - http://www.fngtps.com Firefox - Take back the web - http://getfirefox.com

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question on wiki comment

by Todd Grimason

Hi- Quick question on a bit of Wiki comment. On the 'suggestions' page, this is listed under 'Already Implemented': "Similar to above, if I open a file through an FTP/SFTP app, it would be cool to have the file open in a project instead of with a regular editor window. Perhaps if the frontmost window is a project window, the file is placed in that project" I'm just wondering if 'already implemented' means in your internal CVS/SVN repo, or in the public beta? I don't think this is working for me so I'm guessing you mean internal builds (?) thanks -Todd

20 years, 10 months

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Shell script for excalibur

by Mr. Robert Ullrey

One more help request. How can I write a better command that would check a whole document, or selected text, and spell check it through excalibur. What I am using now is: input: document open -a excalibur "$TM_FILEPATH" output: disgard This calls excalibur with the file fine. I run the spell check and make changes and then excalibur asks me to save it. When I return to TextMate the page does not show the corrections until I click on it. Any further suggestions for the code much appreciated. If anyone would like this added to the LateX bundle, I would be happy to add it. Cheers Robert

20 years, 10 months

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opening tmproj from xcode

by Mr. Robert Ullrey

I was wondering if anyone has figured out how to set the preferences in xcode to open a tmproj file in textmate? Of course I can control "open with finder' to get it to open in textmate, but I am looking to set the preferences to open all tmproj files with textmate as the external editor. I can not find such a heading in xcodes preferences though. Cheers, Robert

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