TextMate July 2013

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by Louis Zulli

Just attempted to build from master at github. A problem introduced in one of the July 26 commits? [120/984] Run test ‘/Users/louis/bui...te/Frameworks/buffer/test_buffer’… FAILED: /Users/louis/build/TextMate/Frameworks/buffer/test_buffer && touch /Users/louis/build/TextMate/Frameworks/buffer/test_buffer.run test_buffer(10037,0x109f85000) malloc: *** error for object 0x7feb10d13ed0: pointer being freed was not allocated *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug /bin/sh: line 1: 10037 Abort trap: 6 /Users/louis/build/TextMate/Frameworks/buffer/test_buffer ninja: build stopped: subcommand failed.

12 years, 11 months

Pastie gone?

by Keith Solomon

I was trying to share some code with a friend to get a second set of eyes on an error I was having,but when I tried to use the Paste Selection Online bundle item, it reported a 404. So I tried going directly to http://pastie.textmate.org to paste it manually, but when I did, it reported it as an unknown domain. Is pastie gone? If so, is there some way to make the bundle item work with another pastebin service -- Keith Solomon - ksolomon(a)gmail.com My Blog - http://keithsolomon.net/

12 years, 11 months

TextMate & TextMate 2 trigger "high performance" graphics

by Joost Schuttelaar

TextMate (both 1 and 2) for some reason makes my MBP (Mid-2010) use the discrete graphics card. In OS X 10.9 we are going to get a nice dialog which shows the apps that use 'significant energy'. TextMate is listed amongst them (see screenshot). Just a FYI. Would be nice to 'fix' (saves a bit of power). But I'm curious what triggers this behavior. As far as I know I haven't seen any animations or anything that couldn't be easily handled by the internal graphics. It happens right away after launch, an empty edit window is enough. OT: Wow, I just realized that I've been using TextMate now for almost 9 years (Oct 2004). How time flies. Except for searching within big projects the editor always felt 'new' and slick, and I've upgraded to TM2 only last week. It has been good for me, with hours of usage nearly every day. And TM2 has been doing quite well thus far. Well done :) -- Joost Schuttelaar The Hague, NL

12 years, 11 months

Batch Find/Replace/Save issue when saving across SMB to files without proper write permissions.

by Jason McC. Smith

Alright, this may be an extreme boundary case, but it just bit me hard at work, so I thought I'd give a heads up. 1) Work server is accessed via SMB. 2) Batch Find All/Replace All is done for some API changes. 3) Second Find All/Replace All is started, alert pops up "would you like to save your changes?" Yes, please. 4) Everything looks good. 5) *Some* files on server *are not changed*. Others are correctly edited. 6) Files that are not saved properly have permissions of rw-r--r--. Files that are saved properly have rw-rw-r--. Now, the fix is to change permissions, but I want to point out that *this failed silently*. That to me is the problem. If I save the files individually, I get a helpful "The file Foo is locked. Do you want to overwrite it anyway?", but if they're saved as an action from the Find panel... no warnings, no alerts, nothing. Silent failure. Just FYI.

12 years, 12 months

Fix messed up folding

by Gerd Knops

Hi, Every now and then (very rarely though) the folding for a file becomes quite messed up. I seem to remember there was a quick workaround discussed somewhere how to clean that up, though I can't find it. So what I usually need to do is quit TM and xattr -d com.macromates.folded FileWithBrokenFolds So was there a command in TM that does something equivalent? Thanks Gerd

12 years, 12 months

Do I have to pay for the final TM 2 license key?

by kafi

Hello Users This question is bugging me since I started using TM 2 Alpha versions. When the final version of TM 2 (Mac OS X version with installer) gets released, do I have to purchase a license key? Will it work for free (without any ads and pop-up reminders etc)? Please let me know. -- View this message in context: http://textmate.1073791.n5.nabble.com/Do-I-have-to-pay-for-the-final-TM-2-l… Sent from the textmate users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

13 years

Re: Do I have to pay for the final TM 2 license key? (Ken Snyder)

by Dustin Wheeler

I wrote this up and tried to send it earlier (via the wrong account… oops, it was rejected). I must say, my thoughts go very much with Ken, in that I like this list, it has been extremely helpful and friendly, and this discussion is starting to sound more like personal attacks than reasonable discourse. With that, here are my thoughts: Kafi, you are absolutely correct that "just because it's open source does not mean you must pay". At the same time, just because it has an open source license does not mean that the developer is required to give it away for free. Often, open source projects ARE free, and this is a perk for many users… but it should never be assumed that free software is a RIGHT of the user. Additionally, most of the open source projects you mention have MANY contributors who work on the project in their spare time, while TM2 has (essentially) just Mr. Odgaard, so in a way, yes, his time is worth more than many of those others (only because this project workload isn't being split among many developers). As many others have said, if you find it useful, pay for it. If you are unable to pay for it, find a way to earn the money, or find another tool. Perhaps Mr. Odgaard will offer some sort of academic or non-commercial license, but in no way is he compelled to do so by releasing TextMate2 under an open source license. With all that said, as a Ph.D. student, I never turn down academic discounts. TM has an academic discount of 15% available for students or staff at academic institutions. I'll purchase a license if I decide to write my thesis in TM2 rather than Scrivener (a decision that will be occurring in the next few weeks…). Thus far, it's one of the more enjoyable text editors I've used, and has piqued my interest away from my former editor of choice, TextWrangler (which IS free and supports LaTeX syntax, if you demand those qualities in your software, Kafi). Anyway, sorry for the tirade; this is a matter in which I'm slowly maturing beyond my teenage piracy habits, and something which I've given a lot of thought to in the past couple of years. Dustin Wheeler mskblackbelt(a)me.com On Jul 18, 2013, at 3:40 PM, textmate-request(a)lists.macromates.com wrote: > Send textmate mailing list submissions to > textmate(a)lists.macromates.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > textmate-request(a)lists.macromates.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > textmate-owner(a)lists.macromates.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of textmate digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Do I have to pay for the final TM 2 license key? > (Chris Knight) > 2. Re: Do I have to pay for the final TM 2 license key? > (Bob Hartung) > 3. Re: Do I have to pay for the final TM 2 license key? (kafi) > 4. Re: Do I have to pay for the final TM 2 license key? (kafi) > 5. Re: Do I have to pay for the final TM 2 license key? (kafi) > 6. Re: Do I have to pay for the final TM 2 license key? (Ken Snyder) > 7. Re: Do I have to pay for the final TM 2 license key? > (Melton Low (app)) > > From: Chris Knight <cpk.stealth(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [TxMt] Re: Do I have to pay for the final TM 2 license key? > Date: July 18, 2013 2:13:32 PM CDT > To: TextMate users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > Reply-To: TextMate users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > > Take a look at the license agreements for the Qt cross-platform programming library. To use it commercially you must by licensing from Digia (formerly Nokia and before that Trolltech) and non-commecial use can use what is provided by the Qt-Project. > > Qt is used by literally hundreds of applications including some pretty big ones such as KDE. Having to pay for a commercial license on open-source software is not new. > > Here is a question for you. Why should anyone write software and give it away for you to use for free? > > > On Jul 18, 2013, at 12:03 PM, kafi wrote: > >> Just because Im using an open source software does not mean I need to pay for >> it. I have been using Open Office for personal projects for the last couple >> of years without paying anything. >> >> Android, CHROME, Eclipse, GIMP, TrueCrypt, Open Office, LWJGL, and hundreds >> of other popular open source projects are simply FREE. >> >> Maybe you are implying that you are putting more works in TM than these >> other projects?!! >> >> Here is the question for you, give me one example of a popular open source >> software, where I need to purchase license key for non-commercial personal >> use. >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://textmate.1073791.n5.nabble.com/Do-I-have-to-pay-for-the-final-TM-2-l… >> Sent from the textmate users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> textmate mailing list >> textmate(a)lists.macromates.com >> http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate > > > > > > From: Bob Hartung <rwhart(a)mchsi.com> > Subject: [TxMt] Re: Do I have to pay for the final TM 2 license key? > Date: July 18, 2013 2:21:22 PM CDT > To: TextMate users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > Reply-To: TextMate users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > > Wow! So much heat and no light. The cost of TextMate is peanuts compared going out to dinner and the beneficial results are far longer lasting. > > Or you could just go out an pay several hundred dollars or more for some other word processor. > > My $0.02 > > Bob > ----- "Chris Knight" <cpk.stealth(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Take a look at the license agreements for the Qt cross-platform >> programming library. To use it commercially you must by licensing >> from Digia (formerly Nokia and before that Trolltech) and >> non-commecial use can use what is provided by the Qt-Project. >> >> Qt is used by literally hundreds of applications including some pretty >> big ones such as KDE. Having to pay for a commercial license on >> open-source software is not new. >> >> Here is a question for you. Why should anyone write software and give >> it away for you to use for free? >> >> >> On Jul 18, 2013, at 12:03 PM, kafi wrote: >> >>> Just because Im using an open source software does not mean I need >> to pay for >>> it. I have been using Open Office for personal projects for the last >> couple >>> of years without paying anything. >>> >>> Android, CHROME, Eclipse, GIMP, TrueCrypt, Open Office, LWJGL, and >> hundreds >>> of other popular open source projects are simply FREE. >>> >>> Maybe you are implying that you are putting more works in TM than >> these >>> other projects?!! >>> >>> Here is the question for you, give me one example of a popular open >> source >>> software, where I need to purchase license key for non-commercial >> personal >>> use. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >> http://textmate.1073791.n5.nabble.com/Do-I-have-to-pay-for-the-final-TM-2-l… >>> Sent from the textmate users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> textmate mailing list >>> textmate(a)lists.macromates.com >>> http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> textmate mailing list >> textmate(a)lists.macromates.com >> http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate > > > > > From: kafi <kkaaffii(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [TxMt] Re: Do I have to pay for the final TM 2 license key? > Date: July 18, 2013 2:27:04 PM CDT > To: textmate(a)lists.macromates.com > Reply-To: TextMate users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > > People here seems not be able to discuss without calling names. > > Smith, mind your language. Do not call names. You are calling me parasite, > but you have no manners. > > Ive donated money and participated with code and time (forum) in several > open source projects. Do not talk supposing stuff that you have no knowledge > about. > > You just picked Open Office? What about Android, Chrome, GIMP? Not > convenient for your argument? > > I have asked a simple question. Do I need to pay for the license of TM 2 for > non-commercial personal use? > > And, give me one example of a popular open source software, where I need to > purchase license key for non-commercial personal use. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://textmate.1073791.n5.nabble.com/Do-I-have-to-pay-for-the-final-TM-2-l… > Sent from the textmate users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > From: kafi <kkaaffii(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [TxMt] Re: Do I have to pay for the final TM 2 license key? > Date: July 18, 2013 2:29:29 PM CDT > To: textmate(a)lists.macromates.com > Reply-To: TextMate users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > > I ve specifically said, non-commercial persoanl use, so your example does not > work. > > No open source software requires purchase of license for non-commerical > personal usage. Try again. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://textmate.1073791.n5.nabble.com/Do-I-have-to-pay-for-the-final-TM-2-l… > Sent from the textmate users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > From: kafi <kkaaffii(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [TxMt] Re: Do I have to pay for the final TM 2 license key? > Date: July 18, 2013 2:35:27 PM CDT > To: textmate(a)lists.macromates.com > Reply-To: TextMate users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > > Chris Knight wrote >> Why should anyone write software and give it away for you to use for free? > > > Go to the project website of Android, Open Office, GIMP, Chrome, Truecrypt, > 7Zip, Apache web server, Java, etc. and read why these softwares are free to > use. Maybe then you will learn about a great philosophy. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://textmate.1073791.n5.nabble.com/Do-I-have-to-pay-for-the-final-TM-2-l… > Sent from the textmate users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > From: Ken Snyder <ken+textmate(a)ken.net> > Subject: [TxMt] Re: Do I have to pay for the final TM 2 license key? > Date: July 18, 2013 3:06:45 PM CDT > To: TextMate users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > Reply-To: TextMate users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > > Guys, this is a really nice list please try and be respectful to others on it. I think Kafi has been a unfairly treated ... I won't name names but if you could find it in yourself to drop him an email -- off the list preferably -- to apologise I think that would be very responsible thing to do. > > Kafi, I think what you're running into in your comments is a growing concern from parts of the software development community in this rapid "race to zero" where consumers price expectations keep on being lowered and a developers hard work and skills are often undervalued. This is shame and doesn't have to be an outcome of OpenSource movement but its a real sensitivity and when we're wearing our "consumer hat" I think we all should try and support people who are doing great things. The old adage "nothing is truly free" is an important word of warning, especially when you site examples like Chrome, Android, Open Office, and Java you're talking about efforts that are being supported with a lot money from corporate entities who in many cases are intentionally sabotaging competitors margins. This isn't a self-sustaining system but rather a system that is propped up by corporate interests and the costs to consumers are there they are just hidden. > > Anyway, I will say I'm sorry by the way you were treated but also that I understand some of the poorly expressed sentiment. I for one think what Allan has produced is outstanding and I will be paying for it even if I don't have to. > > Ken > > > On 18 July 2013 20:35, kafi <kkaaffii(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Chris Knight wrote > > Why should anyone write software and give it away for you to use for free? > > > Go to the project website of Android, Open Office, GIMP, Chrome, Truecrypt, > 7Zip, Apache web server, Java, etc. and read why these softwares are free to > use. Maybe then you will learn about a great philosophy. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://textmate.1073791.n5.nabble.com/Do-I-have-to-pay-for-the-final-TM-2-l… > Sent from the textmate users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > textmate mailing list > textmate(a)lists.macromates.com > http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate > > > > > From: "Melton Low (app)" <softw.app(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [TxMt] Re: Do I have to pay for the final TM 2 license key? > Date: July 18, 2013 3:40:32 PM CDT > To: TextMate users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > Reply-To: TextMate users <textmate(a)lists.macromates.com> > > > +1 > > I share your sentiment. > > Ken Snyder wrote: >> >> Guys, this is a really nice list please try and be respectful to others on it. I think Kafi has been a unfairly treated ... I won't name names but if you could find it in yourself to drop him an email -- off the list preferably -- to apologise I think that would be very responsible thing to do. >> >> Kafi, I think what you're running into in your comments is a growing concern from parts of the software development community in this rapid "race to zero" where consumers price expectations keep on being lowered and a developers hard work and skills are often undervalued. This is shame and doesn't have to be an outcome of OpenSource movement but its a real sensitivity and when we're wearing our "consumer hat" I think we all should try and support people who are doing great things. The old adage "nothing is truly free" is an important word of warning, especially when you site examples like Chrome, Android, Open Office, and Java you're talking about efforts that are being supported with a lot money from corporate entities who in many cases are intentionally sabotaging competitors margins. This isn't a self-sustaining system but rather a system that is propped up by corporate interests and the costs to consumers are there they are just hidden. >> >> Anyway, I will say I'm sorry by the way you were treated but also that I understand some of the poorly expressed sentiment. I for one think what Allan has produced is outstanding and I will be paying for it even if I don't have to. >> >> Ken >> >> >> On 18 July 2013 20:35, kafi <kkaaffii(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Chris Knight wrote >> > Why should anyone write software and give it away for you to use for free? >> >> >> Go to the project website of Android, Open Office, GIMP, Chrome, Truecrypt, >> 7Zip, Apache web server, Java, etc. and read why these softwares are free to >> use. Maybe then you will learn about a great philosophy. >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://textmate.1073791.n5.nabble.com/Do-I-have-to-pay-for-the-final-TM-2-l… >> Sent from the textmate users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> textmate mailing list >> textmate(a)lists.macromates.com >> http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate >> >> _______________________________________________ >> textmate mailing list >> textmate(a)lists.macromates.com >> http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate > > > _______________________________________________ > textmate mailing list > textmate(a)lists.macromates.com > http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate

13 years

Re: textmate Digest, Vol 62, Issue 23

by Lewy

I would like to understand the difference mentioned here. How about an explanation. Note: I paid for TM1 a long time ago and haven't seen a price for TM2. Please don't conclude I'm a free-loader. Lewy On 7/18/13 11:12 AM, textmate-request(a)lists.macromates.com wrote: > learn the difference between 'free as in beer' and 'free as in speech'.

13 years

[ Feature Request ] Vertical Tabs in TM2 and Autohide sidebar

by Kavin

Hello, I have 2 feature requests for TM 2. 1) [Feature] Vertical tabs/Open Files view When TextMate is open with a lot of files, say more than 8 - It's different to identify the tabs with similar filenames. For e.g. class-somefile.php. class-someotherfile.php are all represented by "class.s....". It isn't uncommon for a large project to have multiple files open and with similar names. I would like this as any one of the following - A) Vertical tabs. Tabs with an option to show in Left or right side. A simple mockup - http://f.cl.ly/items/2A3Q2b3t2t0A0z0O3s0S/vertical-tabs.png B) List of open Files in sidebar (Filebrowser like view) List of files open above or in one of the filebrowser's views. Once again a mockup - http://f.cl.ly/items/1U0W2Y240T0Z382q1t29/vertical-fbrowser.png 2) [Feature] Autohide Sidebar It would nice if we can auto hide the sidebar and provide more space for codeeditor. It could be shown on hover at one of the edges, or expand on hover/toggle buttons. It would be great if these are considered. Thanks :)

13 years

Build problems. Heard that before? :)

by Richard Drake

2010 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.4 GHz, with 8GB, OS X 10.8.4, Homebrew textmate(master) $ git submodule update --init seemed fine. Then there was: textmate(master) $ ./configure make: *** [/Users/richarddrake/build/TextMate/Frameworks/SoftwareUpdate/fixtures/secret.pem] Error 127 but what the heck, I carried on. So then: textmate(master) $ ninja ... [various warnings] [171/987] Run test '/Users/richarddrake/build/TextMate/Frameworks/scm/test_scm'... FAILED: /Users/richarddrake/build/TextMate/Frameworks/scm/test_scm && touch /Users/richarddrake/build/TextMate/Frameworks/scm/test_scm.run /bin/sh: line 1: 33977 Segmentation fault: 11 /Users/richarddrake/build/TextMate/Frameworks/scm/test_scm Got another error in trying again so googled and did: textmate(master) $ ninja scm/coerce [1/1] Skip test '/Users/richarddrake/build/TextMate/Frameworks/scm/test_scm'... textmate(master) $ ninja ... [174/808] Run test '/Users/richarddrake/build/TextMate/Frameworks/SoftwareUpdate/test_SoftwareUpdate'... FAILED: /Users/richarddrake/build/TextMate/Frameworks/SoftwareUpdate/test_SoftwareUpdate && touch /Users/richarddrake/build/TextMate/Frameworks/SoftwareUpdate/test_SoftwareUpdate.run test_SoftwareUpdate: 5 of 8 tests failed: /Users/richarddrake/puny/big/textmate/Frameworks/SoftwareUpdate/tests/t_sw_update.cc:64: Expected (err == "Extracting archive."), found ("The requested URL returned error: 404" != "Extracting archive.") /Users/richarddrake/puny/big/textmate/Frameworks/SoftwareUpdate/tests/t_sw_update.cc:73: Expected (err == "Extracting archive."), found ("The requested URL returned error: 404" != "Extracting archive.") /Users/richarddrake/puny/big/textmate/Frameworks/SoftwareUpdate/tests/t_sw_update.cc:82: Expected (err == "Bad signature."), found ("The requested URL returned error: 404" != "Bad signature.") /Users/richarddrake/puny/big/textmate/Frameworks/SoftwareUpdate/tests/t_sw_update.cc:91: Expected (err == "Bad signature."), found ("The requested URL returned error: 404" != "Bad signature.") /Users/richarddrake/puny/big/textmate/Frameworks/SoftwareUpdate/tests/t_sw_update.cc:109: Expected (err == NULL_STR), found ("The requested URL returned error: 404" != " ") [174/808] Compile 'Frameworks/document/src/document.cc'... Frameworks/document/src/document.cc:160:24: warning: private field 'tracker' is not used [-Wunused-private-field] document_tracker_t* tracker; ^ 1 warning generated. ninja: build stopped: subcommand failed. Tried (without knowing ninja or what this meant) this multiple times: textmate(master) $ ninja SoftwareUpdate/coerce [1/1] Skip test '/Users/richarddrake/build/TextMate/Frameworks/SoftwareUpdate/test_SoftwareUpdate'... which got me to: textmate(master) $ ninja [8/26] Run test '/Users/richarddrake/build/TextMate/Frameworks/SoftwareUpdate/test_SoftwareUpdate'... FAILED: /Users/richarddrake/build/TextMate/Frameworks/SoftwareUpdate/test_SoftwareUpdate && touch /Users/richarddrake/build/TextMate/Frameworks/SoftwareUpdate/test_SoftwareUpdate.run test_SoftwareUpdate: 5 of 8 tests failed: /Users/richarddrake/puny/big/textmate/Frameworks/SoftwareUpdate/tests/t_sw_update.cc:64: Expected (err == "Extracting archive."), found ("The requested URL returned error: 404" != "Extracting archive.") /Users/richarddrake/puny/big/textmate/Frameworks/SoftwareUpdate/tests/t_sw_update.cc:73: Expected (err == "Extracting archive."), found ("The requested URL returned error: 404" != "Extracting archive.") /Users/richarddrake/puny/big/textmate/Frameworks/SoftwareUpdate/tests/t_sw_update.cc:82: Expected (err == "Bad signature."), found ("The requested URL returned error: 404" != "Bad signature.") /Users/richarddrake/puny/big/textmate/Frameworks/SoftwareUpdate/tests/t_sw_update.cc:91: Expected (err == "Bad signature."), found ("The requested URL returned error: 404" != "Bad signature.") /Users/richarddrake/puny/big/textmate/Frameworks/SoftwareUpdate/tests/t_sw_update.cc:109: Expected (err == NULL_STR), found ("The requested URL returned error: 404" != " ") ninja: build stopped: subcommand failed. At which point googling didn't seem to shed light and I came here. Been a TextMate user since 2006, decided to download v2 on Wednesday. Great job Allan and co. I thought I'd take a look at the source because of a niggle found that I've created a GitHub issue for: https://github.com/textmate/textmate/issues/1047 But it would be nice to tinker with other things anyway. Regards Richard

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