Allan,
I know, I know, 2.0 will be ready when it's ready. But can't you tease us just a little? For example, let's say you have a todo list for 2.0 and you're working your way through it checking off items. Can you tell us what percentage of that list is complete? It wouldn't really give us any idea at all when the thing will be out, since that last 10% can take 90% of the time to develop and we don't really know when you started on 2.0 anyway, nor what percentage of your time is devoted to 2.0. But it would be a nice teaser.
(Not that there's anything wrong with 1.5.7...)
Fanning the vaporware flames,
j.
:-)
On Apr 13, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Jay Soffian wrote:
Allan,
I know, I know, 2.0 will be ready when it's ready. But can't you tease us just a little? For example, let's say you have a todo list for 2.0 and you're working your way through it checking off items. Can you tell us what percentage of that list is complete? It wouldn't really give us any idea at all when the thing will be out, since that last 10% can take 90% of the time to develop and we don't really know when you started on 2.0 anyway, nor what percentage of your time is devoted to 2.0. But it would be a nice teaser.
(Not that there's anything wrong with 1.5.7...)
Fanning the vaporware flames,
j.
:-)
I feel your pain, but don't hold your breath.
Hi,
Since there's no bone for us so far I'd say I don't miss TM 2.0 or anything and TextMate serves me well, except two things hanging around from the beginning of the universe... hmm, or maybe around 2006.
(1) "Make soft-wrap preserve indention" This feature request is there almost 2 years: http://macromates.com/ticket/show?ticket_id=4EFB31A8 I'd appreciate any comment of the author whether it is impossible to implement, or possible but we have to wait next 2 years, or anything. I'd appreciate too if the author have a look at the comments there .. especially last one (3 options).
(2) Make project file-list context menu (i.e. ⌃⇧A) work also when there's no file open
I can live with the rest but those two above really make me nervous, especially when I know that (1) is present in competitors of TM.
Cheers,
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Adam Strzelecki ono@java.pl wrote:
Hi,
Since there's no bone for us so far I'd say I don't miss TM 2.0 or anything and TextMate serves me well, except two things hanging around from the beginning of the universe... hmm, or maybe around 2006.
(1) "Make soft-wrap preserve indention" This feature request is there almost 2 years: http://macromates.com/ticket/show?ticket_id=4EFB31A8 I'd appreciate any comment of the author whether it is impossible to implement, or possible but we have to wait next 2 years, or anything. I'd appreciate too if the author have a look at the comments there .. especially last one (3 options).
(2) Make project file-list context menu (i.e. ⌃⇧A) work also when there's no file open
I can live with the rest but those two above really make me nervous, especially when I know that (1) is present in competitors of TM.
Everybody has their "must have" feature(s) for 2.0. For me it's the lack of split windows that drives me nuts. If the only thing 2.0 adds is vi/emacs style frames I'd be a happy camper.
:-)
j.
On Apr 16, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Jay Soffian wrote:
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Adam Strzelecki ono@java.pl wrote:
Hi,
Since there's no bone for us so far I'd say I don't miss TM 2.0 or anything and TextMate serves me well, except two things hanging around from the beginning of the universe... hmm, or maybe around 2006.
(1) "Make soft-wrap preserve indention" This feature request is there almost 2 years: http://macromates.com/ticket/show? ticket_id=4EFB31A8 I'd appreciate any comment of the author whether it is impossible to implement, or possible but we have to wait next 2 years, or anything. I'd appreciate too if the author have a look at the comments there .. especially last one (3 options).
(2) Make project file-list context menu (i.e. ⌃⇧A) work also when there's no file open
I can live with the rest but those two above really make me nervous, especially when I know that (1) is present in competitors of TM.
Everybody has their "must have" feature(s) for 2.0. For me it's the lack of split windows that drives me nuts. If the only thing 2.0 adds is vi/emacs style frames I'd be a happy camper.
+1 there!!
:-)
j.
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On 16 Apr 2008, at 14:14, Adam Strzelecki wrote:
[...] I'd appreciate any comment of the author whether it is impossible to implement, or possible but we have to wait next 2 years, or anything. I'd appreciate too if the author have a look at the comments there .. especially last one (3 options).
I do read all tickets, all comments to tickets, all comments to blog posts, all letters sent to the mailing list, all letters sent to tm- feedback and related addresses, etc.
I don’t comment on most of this because already email is taking _hours_ each day and really, the comment to every single feature request is something like¹: I have taken note of the request, it might be added to a future version, I can’t really say for sure before I have actually implemented it _and shipped_ the version where it has been added.
I put emphasis here on shipped as well because sometimes a feature is pulled again for various reasons (could be that it turns out not to work so well, might be because it complicates the implementation of other features, etc.). This is one of the reasons that I am not commenting on specifics wrt 2.0.
¹ The exception to this rule is mostly for feature requests where either 1) I want to better understand why the user requests this, 2) some dialog is required to really flesh out the details of how the implementation of the request would work, or 3) I have something planned which I think is so utterly cool and completely supersedes the requested feature, that I just can’t keep it to myself :)
Allan Odgaard wrote:
I have taken note of the request, it might be added to a future version, I can’t really say for sure before I have actually implemented it _and shipped_ the version where it has been added.
I'm very happy that I could draw your attention on this subject. You can be now our good fairy making our TM dreams come true :)
Best regards,
Adam Strzelecki wrote:
(1) "Make soft-wrap preserve indention" This feature request is there almost 2 years: http://macromates.com/ticket/show?ticket_id=4EFB31A8 I'd appreciate any comment of the author whether it is impossible to implement, or possible but we have to wait next 2 years, or anything. I'd appreciate too if the author have a look at the comments there .. especially last one (3 options).
Whether this will be implemented any time soon, or ever, is an open question, but several months ago we had some good discussions on ##textmate about how to make the most incredible indented softwrap the world has ever seen.
On Apr 29, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Jacob Rus wrote:
Adam Strzelecki wrote:
(1) "Make soft-wrap preserve indention" This feature request is there almost 2 years: http://macromates.com/ticket/show?ticket_id=4EFB31A8 I'd appreciate any comment of the author whether it is impossible to implement, or possible but we have to wait next 2 years, or anything. I'd appreciate too if the author have a look at the comments there .. especially last one (3 options).
Whether this will be implemented any time soon, or ever, is an open question, but several months ago we had some good discussions on ##textmate about how to make the most incredible indented softwrap the world has ever seen.
I'll take 2 of those please...
On 13 Apr 2008, at 16:39, Jay Soffian wrote:
I know, I know, 2.0 will be ready when it's ready. But can't you tease us just a little? For example, let's say you have a todo list for 2.0 and you're working your way through it checking off items. Can you tell us what percentage of that list is complete? It wouldn't really give us any idea at all when the thing will be out
But would rather set myself up for more questions, or follow-up questions like “how many percent are now done?” etc.
In retrospect I should have hired someone to continue working on 1.x and then just not have mentioned 2.0 to anyone, cause the 2.0 project has not been an “implement all features requested one by one”- project¹, but rather a “based on the experience from the last years, and all the time in the world, how should the architecture be”-project.
What I can say is that a) TM 2 is in a state where I use it myself and b) I do somewhat stringently follow a to-do list to reach a beta milestone, but that to-do list is long and while I plan to keep doing TM 2 as my main work until there is a release, it may still take a long long time.
¹ It started like that, but it was hard to keep the motivation when the existing code base was holding back the things which were exciting to me.
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