On Apr 4, 2005, at 7:15 AM, Sune Foldager wrote:

On 04-04-2005, at 06:20, Charilaos Skiadas wrote:

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I hope this is not a very stupid question, but can someone explain to me how input patterns are supposed to work? i.e. if i have bound a snippet to an input pattern, how do I activate it? (An example of an input pattern would be much appreciated). Or are they not implemented yet?

Certainly! .. you just type the pattern in the editor window as normal text, and press TAB. So it works as a short-cut really. There are plenty of snippets already in place in the various bundles :-).

The question is about input patterns, not tab triggers. Here's what I can find on the subject:

From: Allan Odgaard <allan at macromates.com>

Input pattern is not working yet. What it will be is a non-greedy regular expression matched against the typed input. Mainly useful for having macros executed on certain editing patterns. For example the

XML

bundle has a snippet that expands to: “<$1></$1>”. Here one could

match

“expansion of this snippet”, “giving the tag a name”, “pressing return inside the tag (w/o typing anything)”. The macro would then add indent and move the end tag down an extra line.

On Apr 4, 2005, at 20:06, Steve Lianoglou wrote:

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The question is about input patterns, not tab triggers. Here's what I can find on the subject:

So .. does it sound like I could set up a snippet/something to act like it fires on a 'space' (instead of a tab-trigger)

Yes -- basically you'd be able to get items to 'fire' on whatever typing sequence that can be matched by a non-greedy regular expression, which typing “br ” sure can :)

I say non-greedy because a pattern like “a.*b’ should match “abbb”, but the item will fire already when it sees “ab”, since making a greedy match would require look-ahead.

On Apr 4, 2005, at 11:56 PM, Jeroen van der Ham wrote:

Why would you want to setup a snippet for <br /> ? If you're using too many br-tags in your HTML document, you're not doing it right...

Thanks for the lesson in semantic web development, Jeroen .. but it was just meant to be a trivial example to get the question across.

I'd like 'fr ' to expand into my for-loop snippet, as opposed to hitting the tab to trigger the expansion ... I just find it to be easier on my fingers to hit the space bar w/ my fat thumb ... for some reason I always find hitting the tab key a bit awkward ... my hand moves out of position and my pinky/wrists start to complain after a while is all ...

now that you mention it, though .. I should go and make a quick/easy snippet for html margin adjustments:

<img src="/images/clear.gif" width="${1:width}" height="{2:height}" alt="Make some Room" />$3

;-)

-steve

On 05-04-2005, at 10:23, Jeroen van der Ham wrote:

On 05-04-2005 09:22, Steve Lianoglou wrote:

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<img src="/images/clear.gif" width="${1:width}" height="{2:height}" alt="Make some Room" />$3

Aaargh! Use XHTML and CSS !

<div class="makeSpace"/> css: .makeSpace { width=x; height=y; } ;-)

I have to agree.. this clear-image stuff is horrible... but of course.. it does work, on the other hand :-p. But I think using a div box works even on IE's rather sorry excuse for a box-model implementation (trouble only starts when you add borders, padding or margin). .. .. .. I really hate IE... ;-).

On 05-04-2005, at 17:07, Eric Hsu wrote:

I spent many hours trying to make a (not that complex) CSS page layout look right in IE and other better browsers. I never succeeded and had to use tables. So in a weird way, it has been very freeing to target TM's HTML output! Yes, it has its own set of annoyances, but at least I don't have to check if it looks right in IE or Opera...

Mm... It can be done though, but it took me many hours as well. It should be noted that while Safari is one of the best css browsers there is, it also has at least one small bug pertaining to some rather exotic use of floating boxes. IE is much worse. Its notorious bug is: It counts padding and border when calculating 'width' for an element. But the standard _clearly_ states that width is inner width.

In IE6 this is fixed if you set a doctype to strict (either html or xhtml), so that at least helps.

On 06-04-2005, at 03:25, David Lee wrote:

Is this IE / Mac we're talking about? If IE / win has a buggy css implementation, they need to invent a new word for the mac version.

At least I was talking about the Windows version, yes.

Hi Eric, What you said seemed interesting the second time around, so i set up a command to pass the selection through 'cat' to html out. If i didn't use cat i got the document name , etc at the top of the window.

Is there a built-in for this? I couldn't find one, and the way you phrased it makes me think I'm missing something

thanks D

On 06/04/2005, at 1:07 AM, Eric Hsu wrote:

At 2:27 PM +0200 4/5/05, Sune Foldager wrote:

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I have to agree.. this clear-image stuff is horrible... but of course.. it does work, on the other hand :-p. But I think using a div box works even on IE's rather sorry excuse for a box-model implementation (trouble only starts when you add borders, padding or margin). .. .. .. I really hate IE... ;-).

I spent many hours trying to make a (not that complex) CSS page layout look right in IE and other better browsers. I never succeeded and had to use tables.

So in a weird way, it has been very freeing to target TM's HTML output! Yes, it has its own set of annoyances, but at least I don't have to check if it looks right in IE or Opera...

• Eric

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ah! confusion! help!

So in a weird way, it has been very freeing to target TM's HTML output! Yes, it has its own set of annoyances, but at least I don't have to check if it looks right in IE or Opera...

I think (?) you were saying you use TM instead of a browser to check your HTML code. I set up the following Command because i couldn't find one 'built-in', in an attempt to mimic your workflow: ---------------------------- save: nothing command: cat input: entire document (or selected text, according to taste) output: show as html activation: ctrl-alt-cmd + r --------------------------

this pops the selection up in a window within TM, rendered as HTML. It works fine.

My question is whether this was a built-in command i missed in the menus, or your own invention ...

cheers D

On 08/04/2005, at 1:03 AM, Eric Hsu wrote:

At 7:21 PM +1000 4/7/05, David Lee wrote:

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What you said seemed interesting the second time around, so i set up a command to pass the selection through 'cat' to html out. If i didn't use cat i got the document name , etc at the top of the window.

I assume you are talking about your Ruby script to output parsed regexp matches?

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Is there a built-in for this? I couldn't find one, and the way you phrased it makes me think I'm missing something

What is it you are hoping will happen, and what is happening? I can't tell from your description.

best, Eric

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I'm going to spend the weekend honing my menu-perusing skills. Seems theyve gotten rusty of late ...

thanks

case closed

D

On 08/04/2005, at 1:41 AM, Jonathan Chaffer wrote:

On Apr 7, 2005, at 11:24 AM, David Lee wrote:

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this pops the selection up in a window within TM, rendered as HTML. It works fine.

My question is whether this was a built-in command i missed in the menus, or your own invention ...

Window -> Show Web Preview?

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At 8:50 AM -0700 4/7/05, Eric Hsu wrote:

Also, it assumes the tidy binary exists and lives at ~/bin/tidy. You can change that to suit yourself.

Mats pointed out offline that people might not know where to get HTML Tidy. http://tidy.sourceforge.net has an OS X binary under Executable Binaries.

HTML Tidy is awesome. My only gripe with it (and validation in general) is that it's not always obvious how to make your text validate and still look right.

best, Eric

On Apr 6, 2005, at 0:22, Steve Lianoglou wrote:

[ space to expand snippets ]

Yeah ... I know it be might tricky at times to trigger things on a space, but some things you just don't type that often .. like 'fr ', or 'swt ' (for a switch statement) .. or 'fnc ' .. for a function-snippet trigger (well, at least not in English anyway ... sometimes it does catch me but I've been able to work around it with a little dance about the arrow keys and some carefully placed spaces here and there -- really infrequent, tho)

Also, the scope might be able to help here, since you can limit the scope of where the item will fire.

But your suggestion is interesting ... are you saying I should bind the ctrl-space 'chord' to the tab key so I can use the already-in-there TextMate Tab-expansion triggers?

Not being the OP, but I think that was the idea.

That might be a good workaround for me for the time being ... I remember coming accross something about a KeyBinding file that I can mess around w/ ... I think someone said it was in ~/Library/KeyBindings ... though I don't have one there ... I could make one, but I wouldn't know what to put in there ... hmm .. maybe google can help on that one.

Or maybe Help / Key Bindings! :)

But if anyone would like to cater to the lazy man and has any insight, it would be much appreciated.

If you're lazy just do: cmd-option-M (start macro recording) tab (inserts a tab/expands snippet) cmd-option-M (stop macro recording) cmd-ctrl-M (save scratch macro)

Now set the key equivalent of that macro to option-space or whatever you like.