As some of you know I've been working off and on on a new LaTeX bundle. It started as an extension bundle “LaTeXtra” but lately I've been focusing on merging that code into a fork of the LaTeX bundle (http://github.com/alexross/latex.tmbundle).
One of my biggest gripes with the current bundle is that there are MANY ways to do things. For instance there are 3-4 ways to insert a new environment, each with different key combinations that I cannot remember. There is a lot of room for simplification.
Simplification will require the removal of some commands, but I'm sure there is at least one person using each command. What I'd like is to get an idea of how people generally use the bundle. So, if you use the LaTeX bundle, please reply!
1. What typesetting engine do you typically use? (ie. pdflatex, xelatex, pdflualatex, etc …)
2. PDF Viewer? (Skim.app, Preview.app, …)
3. Do you use any of the completion commands? Which ones? What sort of LaTeX macros do you commonly complete?
4. Do you use any of the snippets?
5. What commands (besides ⌘R) do you use the most often?
6. Anything that you'd miss terribly if it was removed?
Thanks for your time!
—Alex
* Alex Ross (j@lasersox.net) wrote: [ ...] |> |> 1. What typesetting engine do you typically use? (ie. pdflatex, |> xelatex, pdflualatex, etc …) |> Pdflatex and xelatex
|> 2. PDF Viewer? (Skim.app, Preview.app, …) |> Texshop.app
|> 3. Do you use any of the completion commands? Which ones? What sort |> of LaTeX macros do you commonly complete? |> Bibdesk completion (opt/esc)
|> 4. Do you use any of the snippets? |> I use enum, item, cha, sec, par, itemize lines in selection, Environment, \begin{}...\end{}, foo(note), and some of my own.
|> 5. What commands (besides ⌘R) do you use the most often? |> Watch document especially (would love a version for XeLateX), latex templates, prefs, trash auxiliary files, run bibtex, set masterfile, and bibdesk completion (also very important).
|> 6. Anything that you'd miss terribly if it was removed? |> Watch document and bibdesk completion.
|> Thanks for your time! |> |> —Alex |> |> _______________________________________________ |> textmate mailing list |> textmate@lists.macromates.com |> http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate
On 08/10/2009, at 11:23 AM, Alex Ross wrote:
As some of you know I've been working off and on on a new LaTeX bundle. It started as an extension bundle “LaTeXtra” but lately I've been focusing on merging that code into a fork of the LaTeX bundle (http://github.com/alexross/latex.tmbundle).
One of my biggest gripes with the current bundle is that there are MANY ways to do things. For instance there are 3-4 ways to insert a new environment, each with different key combinations that I cannot remember. There is a lot of room for simplification.
Simplification will require the removal of some commands, but I'm sure there is at least one person using each command. What I'd like is to get an idea of how people generally use the bundle. So, if you use the LaTeX bundle, please reply!
- What typesetting engine do you typically use? (ie. pdflatex,
xelatex, pdflualatex, etc …)
pdflatex, (sparringly xelatex, and latex+dvips)
- PDF Viewer? (Skim.app, Preview.app, …)
Skim
- Do you use any of the completion commands? Which ones? What sort
of LaTeX macros do you commonly complete?
Command completion:
latex bibliographic commands
dc C-]
A-i (emph), A-b (bold),
- Do you use any of the snippets?
item, enum, doc, table, figure, tab sec, ssec (and other sectioning snippets).
table, fig A-{
Personal snippets, plus a LaTeX bundle I have written for the (smart) insertion of symbols.
http://www.governatori.net/Textmate
It also include a fix to a tab snippet bug (and partial implementation of the requested features)
- What commands (besides ⌘R) do you use the most often?
C-{ for citations A-{ for environments
- Anything that you'd miss terribly if it was removed?
What I use above.
7. Features request:
- subscript and superscript scopes, clever insertion of subscripts/ supescripts (a la emacs mode). - clever way to exit environments and math mode (a la emacs mode) - method to handle and display ref/labels as emacs does. - rub BibTex from TextMate (I do not use Latexmk) - good bibtext mode
Thanks for your time!
Thanks for your effort!
Guido
-- Guido Governatori http://www.governatori.net/Textmate
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:23 AM, Alex Ross j@lasersox.net wrote:
<snip>
- What typesetting engine do you typically use? (ie. pdflatex,
xelatex, pdflualatex, etc …)
xelatex, pdflatex
- PDF Viewer? (Skim.app, Preview.app, …)
Skim
- Do you use any of the completion commands? Which ones? What sort
of LaTeX macros do you commonly complete?
Bibtex-autocompletion
- Do you use any of the snippets?
sec, cha, sub etc., enum, item
- What commands (besides ⌘R) do you use the most often?
bold, italic, create table, insertion of pictures via drag&drop, set master file, open master file,
- Anything that you'd miss terribly if it was removed?
bibtex-autocompletion, the above mentioned snippets
Niels
Le 8 oct. 09 à 03:23, Alex Ross a écrit :
<snip>
- What typesetting engine do you typically use? (ie. pdflatex,
xelatex, pdflualatex, etc)
Pdflatex, sometimes with latexmk. Latex watch also.
- PDF Viewer? (Skim.app, Preview.app, etc)
Skim (what else ? :)
- Do you use any of the completion commands? Which ones? What sort
of LaTeX macros do you commonly complete?
Bib and ref completions (a side note: for some reason the bib items appear twice in a row in the proposed list... any idea why?)
- Do you use any of the snippets?
Most used feature. Existing snippets slightly changed and personal ones. I also use Guido's "smart symbols" bundle quite a lot (thanks btw!).
- What commands (besides Command-R) do you use the most often?
With some modifications: insert left/right, itemize lines, wrap in environment, drag image, documentation for package (quite useful but veeeeery sloooow), new item, sometimes the sync commands, toggle starred, ...
- Anything that you'd miss terribly if it was removed?
Mostly the complicated commands (as I will not be able to rewrite them myself).
Thanks for your time!
What you are doing is very much appreciated. Thanks!
Le 8 oct. 09 à 03:23, Alex Ross a écrit :
Note that I currently only write short documents. I guess that for long ones, I’d use quite different commands (like labels completion).
- What typesetting engine do you typically use? (ie. pdflatex,
xelatex, pdflualatex, etc …)
pdflatex
- PDF Viewer? (Skim.app, Preview.app, …)
Skim.app
- Do you use any of the completion commands? Which ones? What sort
of LaTeX macros do you commonly complete?
Environment Based on Current Word very often for theorems, lemmata, definitions, examples, images... with some self-made environment Citation Based on Current Word for about any citation LaTeX Symbol Based on Current Word whenever I need to use greek characters that I somehow relate to a latin one thus not that often
Most of the remaining time, I just use ⎋ to complete as I have a whole lot of self-defined LaTeX macros and usually don’t reference labels between files.
- Do you use any of the snippets?
Sectioning whenever I introduce a new section (obviously) Cross-reference a very little, and usually for images only
- What commands (besides ⌘R) do you use the most often?
Wrap selection in math mode ($s for math mode are evil) permanently especially for ( ) but still for [ ] actually mapped to ⌘⇧M (I don’t care about TM macros) Some formatting commands mainly emphasise. I should learn the others.
- Anything that you'd miss terribly if it was removed?
Well, anything that is marked a “I use it often” earlier, of course. Some buttons in Typesetting window whenever I messed up the code somewhere. Love to clean up then re-run that way. Probably because edit window lost focus when I checked the errors. Master files (but why the hell would you want to remove that?)
Édouard GILBERT edouard.gilbert@gmail.com
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:23 AM, Alex Ross j@lasersox.net wrote:
- What typesetting engine do you typically use? (ie. pdflatex,
xelatex, pdflualatex, etc …)
pdflatex
- PDF Viewer? (Skim.app, Preview.app, …)
TeXorator (http://ianhenderson.org/texorator.html)
- Do you use any of the completion commands? Which ones? What sort
of LaTeX macros do you commonly complete?
BibTeX completion
- Do you use any of the snippets?
sec, sub, subs, item
- What commands (besides ⌘R) do you use the most often?
Formatting commands (bold, italic, typewrite), and the new item command
- Anything that you'd miss terribly if it was removed?
Mostly the commands, I could do withotu the snippets using ESC.
I added my preferences below, but please keep in mind one thing: While one key combination for each function might be good für one keyboard layout (eg. US) it can be disastrous for other keyboard layouts. With the German keyboard layout for example, things like [,],{,} need two keystrokes: alt-5, alt-6, alt-8, alt-9. With the backlash \ it gets even worse, because to get it you need to type shift-alt-6. So please keep in mind, that certain key combinations may render the LaTeX plugin unusable with some common keyboard layouts. I am pretty sure the problems I mentioned are true for other keyboard layouts as well, eg. spanish, french.
[...]
- What typesetting engine do you typically use? (ie. pdflatex,
xelatex, pdflualatex, etc …)
pdflatex
- PDF Viewer? (Skim.app, Preview.app, …)
Skim.app
- Do you use any of the completion commands? Which ones? What sort
of LaTeX macros do you commonly complete?
Do you use any of the snippets?
What commands (besides ⌘R) do you use the most often?
Anything that you'd miss terribly if it was removed?
Thanks for your time!
—Alex
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Le 8 oct. 2009 à 03:23, Alex Ross a écrit :
As some of you know I've been working off and on on a new LaTeX bundle. It started as an extension bundle “LaTeXtra” but lately I've been focusing on merging that code into a fork of the LaTeX bundle (http://github.com/alexross/latex.tmbundle).
Hi Alex,
thanks for this bundle: I use LaTeX2 specially ⌘R and cycle
I use also the bundle of Guido. II like LATEX subscript and superscript and also LATEX SYMBOL but I have the problem with ^ and the french keyboard
I use also my bundle" latex author", for example to get a highlight syntax of Tex Terms ( to see the primitives of TeX ) an I have also my laTeX theme
One of my biggest gripes with the current bundle is that there are MANY ways to do things.
This is not the only problem, I think another problem : different languages are mixed for example to create ⌘R, python ruby why not only one language. It's difficult to add or remove something
For instance there are 3-4 ways to insert a new environment, each with different key combinations that I cannot remember. There is a lot of room for simplification.
Simplification will require the removal of some commands, but I'm sure there is at least one person using each command. What I'd like is to get an idea of how people generally use the bundle. So, if you use the LaTeX bundle, please reply!
- What typesetting engine do you typically use? (ie. pdflatex,
xelatex, pdflualatex, etc …)
pdflatex but I need to some specific script to run asymptote or giac with latex
- PDF Viewer? (Skim.app, Preview.app, …)
Skim, preview and sometimes Adobe Reader
- Do you use any of the completion commands? Which ones? What sort
of LaTeX macros do you commonly complete?
Yes I use ESC and ALT ESC but there is always a bug in the completion with ALT ESC ALT ESC don't work if there is in the preamble something like \input{essai}
Example \documentclass{article}
\begin{document} \input{essai} \in .... alt esc nothing ! \end{document}
After \in and ALT ESC, a window gives
I modified the file LateXCommandCompletions.rb and I added
def recursiveFileSearch(initialList) extraPathList = [] fileExt="tex"
Now ALT ESC works correctly but I would like to know if my change is correct !
- Do you use any of the snippets?
yes a lot of snippets : environment, left..right Enumerate etc ...
- What commands (besides ⌘R) do you use the most often?
⌘R of your Bundle Wrap !!!! Format Run MakeIndex Tables Help Documentation for package
- Anything that you'd miss terribly if it was removed?
I don't use Tidy but I need the other commands of the LaTeX bundle but I need three bundles of LateX to work correctly.
Best Regards
Alain Matthes
On Oct 7, 2009, at 9:23 PM, Alex Ross wrote:
As some of you know I've been working off and on on a new LaTeX bundle. It started as an extension bundle “LaTeXtra” but lately I've been focusing on merging that code into a fork of the LaTeX bundle (http://github.com/alexross/latex.tmbundle).
I tried a LaTeX extra bundle and deleted it because it started doing things I didn't want when I was just typing. I guess it was snippets "to make things easier". However, people have different workflows.
One of my biggest gripes with the current bundle is that there are MANY ways to do things. For instance there are 3-4 ways to insert a new environment, each with different key combinations that I cannot remember. There is a lot of room for simplification.
The advantage is that different people will want to do things different ways.
Simplification will require the removal of some commands, but I'm sure there is at least one person using each command. What I'd like is to get an idea of how people generally use the bundle. So, if you use the LaTeX bundle, please reply!
- What typesetting engine do you typically use? (ie. pdflatex,
xelatex, pdflualatex, etc …)
pdflatex, latex+ps2pdf
- PDF Viewer? (Skim.app, Preview.app, …)
Skim.app
- Do you use any of the completion commands? Which ones? What sort
of LaTeX macros do you commonly complete?
I normally use the Insert Command based upon current word.
- Do you use any of the snippets?
Not really, no.
- What commands (besides ⌘R) do you use the most often?
Change Current (Environment), Wrap selection, Insert command based upon current word.
- Anything that you'd miss terribly if it was removed?
The three commands listed above.
Thanks for your time!
—Alex
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On Oct 9, 2009, at 10:44 PM, Tim Lahey wrote:
On Oct 7, 2009, at 9:23 PM, Alex Ross wrote:
As some of you know I've been working off and on on a new LaTeX bundle. It started as an extension bundle “LaTeXtra” but lately I've been focusing on merging that code into a fork of the LaTeX bundle (http://github.com/alexross/latex.tmbundle).
I tried a LaTeX extra bundle and deleted it because it started doing things I didn't want when I was just typing. I guess it was snippets "to make things easier". However, people have different workflows.
Yes, I agree that is a problem. In the new bundle I am trying to address it. Snippets will suggest themselves to you, but it requires action on your part to make them go.
Hi — Answwrs lus a question embedded below On 8 Oct 2009, at 02:23, Alex Ross wrote:
As some of you know I've been working off and on on a new LaTeX bundle. It started as an extension bundle “LaTeXtra” but lately I've been focusing on merging that code into a fork of the LaTeX bundle (http://github.com/alexross/latex.tmbundle).
One of my biggest gripes with the current bundle is that there are MANY ways to do things. For instance there are 3-4 ways to insert a new environment, each with different key combinations that I cannot remember. There is a lot of room for simplification.
Simplification will require the removal of some commands, but I'm sure there is at least one person using each command. What I'd like is to get an idea of how people generally use the bundle. So, if you use the LaTeX bundle, please reply!
- What typesetting engine do you typically use? (ie. pdflatex,
xelatex, pdflualatex, etc …)
pdflatex and about to experiment with xelatex
- PDF Viewer? (Skim.app, Preview.app, …)
TeXShop
- Do you use any of the completion commands? Which ones? What sort
of LaTeX macros do you commonly complete?
enum<tab> desc<tab> item<tab>
<Cmnd>{
- Do you use any of the snippets?
I use lots of my own
- What commands (besides ⌘R) do you use the most often?
Never use <Cmnd>R — I use TeXShop to run the job
- Anything that you'd miss terribly if it was removed?
In the last few weeks exact time unknown) the LaTeX bundle/environment seems to be behaving differently
(1) $ now gets ( ) (2) <Ctrl>$ seems to wrap the previous word in $$ (3) How do I now get $ in text mode ? (in two keystrokes or less?)
The above behaviour doesn't seem to correspond to the documentation (I'm running TextMate 1.5.8 (1509)
It looks like the middle of a transition --- I also have the bundles LaTeX Experimental, LaTeXtra (don't remember installing those) and my own local LaTeX bundle for my snippets.
Many thanks for addressing the LaTeX bundle --- as you say, there are many ways of doing the same thing & it seems to easy to loose items (I suspect that Spaces is shadowing the <Ctrl>4 that should have got me $)
Am I right in thinking that there have been some changes in the last couple of weeks ?
Phil
Thanks for your time!
—Alex
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Am 08.10.2009 um 03:23 schrieb Alex Ross:
[snip]
- What typesetting engine do you typically use? (ie. pdflatex,
xelatex, pdflualatex, etc …)
pdflatex
- PDF Viewer? (Skim.app, Preview.app, …)
Skim
- Do you use any of the completion commands? Which ones? What sort
of LaTeX macros do you commonly complete?
- Do you use any of the snippets?
cha, sec, ..., itemize, enum
- What commands (besides ⌘R) do you use the most often?
italic, bold
-- Christian
-It's better to be a pirate than to join the Navy.-
John Sculley and John A. Byrne, 1987
Hi Alex,
I'm thrilled to hear you're working on a new LaTeX bundle as the current one leaves a lot to be desired (part of which is TextMate's fault).
- What typesetting engine do you typically use? (ie. pdflatex,
xelatex, pdflualatex, etc …)
pdflatex
- PDF Viewer? (Skim.app, Preview.app, …)
Skim
- Do you use any of the completion commands? Which ones? What sort
of LaTeX macros do you commonly complete?
Don't know any
- Do you use any of the snippets?
itm, eqn, enum, cha, sec, sub
- What commands (besides ⌘R) do you use the most often?
Watch document (I never use ⌘R)
- Anything that you'd miss terribly if it was removed?
No, the only thing in terms of LaTeX I will ever miss is vim and latex- suite ;-)
Cheers, Sam
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