It seems that many many people have jumped on the TM2 alpha. The consequence of this is that there has been a rush of TM2 questions, some of which ignore Allan's request not to post general feedback, some of which would be answered if the poster would read the message on textmate-dev Allan linked in a post yesterday, some of which would be answered in the blog or release notes.
I don't think I've seen a question yet that, bearing in mind this is *alpha* software, is sensible to post or meets the criteria of being what the devs want to know about.
Would the powers that be consider a new mailing list? "TM2 testers" (or similar) so that the "TM users" list can concentrate on issues, or queries users have with only the current release of TM. This would naturally migrate once TM2 is released to the world.
I'm not going to upgrade to alpha software, I'll also avoid early beta releases too, as I'm sure many others, like myself, who do not have time to deal with the inevitable problems of using such 'new', software will do. Allan and the dev team have my full support, and I'll be glad to test release candidates when they say it's almost ready for public consumption. But in the mean time, this list is going to become, at best distracting, at worst very difficult to use for those trying to get help with TM1 issues if so many posts are related to an unreleased version.
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 20:41, Justin Catterall 100621.1@masonsmusic.co.uk wrote:
It seems that many many people have jumped on the TM2 alpha. The consequence of this is that there has been a rush of TM2 questions, some of which ignore Allan's request not to post general feedback, some of which would be answered if the poster would read the message on textmate-dev Allan linked in a post yesterday, some of which would be answered in the blog or release notes.
I don't think I've seen a question yet that, bearing in mind this is *alpha* software, is sensible to post or meets the criteria of being what the devs want to know about.
Would the powers that be consider a new mailing list? "TM2 testers" (or similar) so that the "TM users" list can concentrate on issues, or queries users have with only the current release of TM. This would naturally migrate once TM2 is released to the world.
Maybe also a message in the ChangeLog or this list that reminds people how to file bugs:
http://wiki.macromates.com/Main/BugReporting http://ticket.macromates.com/
The alpha release didn't mention any request for bugs. However, I assume Allan and co wouldn't mind reports along the lines of "I tried X but it did Y rather than Z then crashed". I'm not sure they are looking for too many "I preferred the way TM1 did X" right now.
Dean
I'd gladly subscribe to such a list, or put the issue reports on some bug tracker, whatever is more feasible for Allan.
It is good point to not pollute this mailing list with *alpha* reports/questions, etc.
Cheers,
On 14 Dec 2011, at 10:41, Justin Catterall wrote:
Would the powers that be consider a new mailing list? "TM2 testers" (or similar) so that the "TM users" list can concentrate on issues, or queries users have with only the current release of TM. […]
How about we give it a week and see if the noise dies down?
On 14 Dec 2011, at 10:54, Allan Odgaard wrote:
On 14 Dec 2011, at 10:41, Justin Catterall wrote:
Would the powers that be consider a new mailing list? "TM2 testers" (or similar) so that the "TM users" list can concentrate on issues, or queries users have with only the current release of TM. […]
How about we give it a week and see if the noise dies down?
I have no problem with that.
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