I love textmate, it's always lacked in CVS support, you add features that are the easiest to add like subversion or other weird libraries. But not the ONE thing that is a show stopper for almost everyone. Every office USES CVS? Why can't this be the #1 priority of textmate? Textmate as an editor is nothing without CVS support. I hate having to use BBedit, to browse CVS, or textwrangler, then switching back to textmate.
The one and only thing the developers should focus on right now is. CONNECTIVITY. who agrees with me? we your customers want CVS support, and SFTP, FTP, and networked support, and not through some third party client. You want to make textmate the worlds best editor? Add in features that crappy clients like eclipse or zend developer environment have, that let you browse and commit to the CVS trunk, and roll back.
Anyone who wants, and thinks this is the most important feature of textmate (aside from being a text editor) please comment and show your support. I'm personally willing to donate an extra $500 for seemless CVS intergration, not that crappy bundle that's going around.
As a user interface designer, I could even help you design the sidebar for browsing CVS, subversion, and feature sets. But everyone is EDITING files online, it shouldn't be hard to intergrate, there are SO many free libraries for unix that you can use!!! especially for the sftp, and so forth, you don't have to re-invent the wheel.
Pleeeeeeease..
Best Regards your loyal customer,
court kizer
Actually, I've never worked in an office that is still using CVS. The other available tools have surpassed it for many many years.
Also, the subversion/"other weird library" support has been added by volunteers as bundles - feel free to beef up the CVS bundle if it upsets you.
That said, Allan has already said several times that improved integration with CVS, scp, etc. is on the docket for the 2.0 release, which is actively being worked on. Although, given what Allan said here (http://macromates.com/blog/archives/2006/05/01/cocoa-radio-interview/#more-8...) under "Number of licenses sold", I doubt the $500 is going to do much to speed that up.
-David
Court Kizer wrote:
I love textmate, it's always lacked in CVS support, you add features that are the easiest to add like subversion or other weird libraries. But not the ONE thing that is a show stopper for almost everyone. Every office USES CVS? Why can't this be the #1 priority of textmate? Textmate as an editor is nothing without CVS support. I hate having to use BBedit, to browse CVS, or textwrangler, then switching back to textmate.
The one and only thing the developers should focus on right now is. *CONNECTIVITY.* who agrees with me? we your customers want CVS support, and SFTP, FTP, and networked support, and not through some third party client. You want to make textmate the worlds best editor? Add in features that crappy clients like eclipse or zend developer environment have, that let you browse and commit to the CVS trunk, and roll back.
Anyone who wants, and thinks this is the most important feature of textmate (aside from being a text editor) please comment and show your support. I'm personally willing to donate an extra $500 for seemless CVS intergration, not that crappy bundle that's going around.
As a user interface designer, I could even help you design the sidebar for browsing CVS, subversion, and feature sets. But everyone is EDITING files online, it shouldn't be hard to intergrate, there are SO many free libraries for unix that you can use!!! especially for the sftp, and so forth, you don't have to re-invent the wheel.
Pleeeeeeease..
Best Regards your loyal customer,
court kizer
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On 18 Jun 2006, at 20:32, Court Kizer wrote:
I love textmate, it's always lacked in CVS support, you add features that are the easiest to add like subversion or other weird libraries. But not the ONE thing that is a show stopper for almost everyone.
Not for me.
Every office USES CVS? Why can't this be the #1 priority of textmate?
I would say that your priorities don't necessarily match with those of the majority of the users. Maybe some think that CVS support is lacking/missing/buggy and other just don't care since they are not using it anyway.
Textmate as an editor is nothing without CVS support.
I would really not express myself this way. It's like saying Mac OS X is not a decent OS because it lacks feature X.
I hate having to use BBedit, to browse CVS, or textwrangler, then switching back to textmate.
There is always the terminal.
The one and only thing the developers should focus on right now is. CONNECTIVITY. who agrees with me?
I don't agree with you. If you ask me I would rather have something like CodeSense implemented than any connectivity features - I can use the cvs/svn commands just fine.
we your customers want CVS support, and SFTP, FTP, and networked support,
I think you meant to say "I, your customer, want...". Don't assume that your needs are the needs of the others.
and not through some third party client. You want to make textmate the worlds best editor? Add in features that crappy clients like eclipse or zend developer environment have, that let you browse and commit to the CVS trunk, and roll back.
Anyone who wants, and thinks this is the most important feature of textmate (aside from being a text editor) please comment and show your support. I'm personally willing to donate an extra $500 for seemless CVS intergration, not that crappy bundle that's going around.
That's great. If Allan excepts this "pledge" that means that everybody will benefit so... a big thank you goes to you.
As a user interface designer, I could even help you design the sidebar for browsing CVS, subversion, and feature sets.
Fantastic.
But everyone is EDITING files online, it shouldn't be hard to intergrate, there are SO many free libraries for unix that you can use!!! especially for the sftp, and so forth, you don't have to re- invent the wheel.
I just want to say that no matter how much we whine or request new features and so on at the end of the day it's Allan who decides what goes in the version, etc. What I would really _like_ to see is a scoring board or something like that where people can put their votes on the features they would really love to see in the next version of TM.
Pleeeeeeease..
Best Regards your loyal customer,
court kizer
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SCNR: http://www.google.com/trends?q=cvs%2C+svn and http:// www.google.com/trends?q=showstopper%2C+textmate&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
And no, I would not vote for "put CVS to the top of Allan's list". But maybe you get some student developer to do the work for 500 USD?
Dan
This email definitely came on the wrong day. Normally I would leave it alone but today I can't.
First things first, using Google trends like that for the CVS vs. SVN comparison, not even close to a good move. Did you realize there is a major pharmacy retailer called CVS? Did you also realize that the majority of those searches are for that pharmacy retailer? Maybe a little research next time.
Secondly, did you even _look_ at the results for the showstopper vs. textmate search/trend? Showstopper is such a generic term and used so much in everyday life that _that_ comparison is even _less_ "damaging" than the CVS/SVN comparison.
I've been on this list since 2004 and this is probably the most antagonistic email thread I've seen in a very long time. This community that has built up around Textmate is one of contribution. If something is missing, people help out and contribute to the group. They don't sit there saying, "well if this doesn't happen you won't get my money". Who cares?
Earlier someone included a link to the Macromates blog where it was mentioned that Allan now has sold over 10,000 licenses for Textmate. Do the math. i don't think money is an issue. There are thousands of others that don't buy Textmate for various reasons do you think one more person is going to make Allan cave in to everyone's demands?
A simple "can this be done" email to the list might have gotten the discussion further along but the way it's been handled so far is only making more people mad and getting you further from your goal of CVS integration.
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On Jun 18, 2006, at 3:29 PM, Daniel Käsmayr wrote:
SCNR: http://www.google.com/trends?q=cvs%2C+svn and http:// www.google.com/trends?q=showstopper%2C +textmate&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
And no, I would not vote for "put CVS to the top of Allan's list". But maybe you get some student developer to do the work for 500 USD?
Dan
Mike,
the SCNR was actually there to make it obvious I was not taking the google trends seriously; it looks like anyone trying to make a point these days is using one of those comparisons ;) And no, I don't care about CVS.
Dan
Am 19. Jun 2006 um 00:17 schrieb Mike Stickel:
First things first, using Google trends like that for the CVS vs. SVN comparison, not even close to a good move. Did you realize there is a major pharmacy retailer called CVS? Did you also realize that the majority of those searches are for that pharmacy retailer? Maybe a little research next time
On Jun 18, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Daniel Käsmayr wrote:
SCNR: http://www.google.com/trends?q=cvs%2C+svn and http:// www.google.com/trends?q=showstopper%2C +textmate&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
And no, I would not vote for "put CVS to the top of Allan's list". But maybe you get some student developer to do the work for 500 USD?
Dan
LOL!
I think this next graph is particularly intriguing. The rise in popularity of TextMate vs Pirate Ninjas
thomas Aylott—subtleGradient
I think this next graph is particularly intriguing. The rise in popularity of TextMate vs Pirate Ninjas
Amazing. You see the correlation between the spike in Pirate Ninjas and Textmate drops? Also check out the places where the pirate nijas are prominent, all places of immor(t)ality!
LOL
Dan
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