Hi every one,
I haven't been able to find any post about the topic, but I must admit the number of post containing command and completion is indeed quite impressive.
Here is my problem. I'm French and I'm using an azerty keyboard. I can't use the default (command - option - }) “LaTeX command completion based on current word” shortcut. On an azerty keyboard, please note it must be typed (command - option - shift - ‘)’) and that the ‘)’ is located two keys left from the delete key, next to the upper figure ‘0’. Worse, even when I try to change the shortcut to (command - option - shift - ‘)’), it doesn't work. In fact, it looks like the shortcut doesn't trigger a thing.
I currently worked around the problem using (command - control - option - ‘)’) 4-fingers “shortcut”, but I'd like to switch back to normal. Do you have any idea of the reason why (command - option - ‘)’) does not work? I've been looking for such a shortcut in TextMate but haven't been able to find one.
Thank for your help and my appologies for the potential bad spelling.
On Apr 2, 2007, at 4:21 PM, Édouard Gilbert wrote:
Hi every one,
I haven't been able to find any post about the topic, but I must admit the number of post containing command and completion is indeed quite impressive.
Here is my problem. I'm French and I'm using an azerty keyboard. I can't use the default (command - option - }) “LaTeX command completion based on current word” shortcut. On an azerty keyboard, please note it must be typed (command - option - shift - ‘)’) and that the ‘)’ is located two keys left from the delete key, next to the upper figure ‘0’. Worse, even when I try to change the shortcut to (command - option - shift - ‘)’), it doesn't work. In fact, it looks like the shortcut doesn't trigger a thing.
I currently worked around the problem using (command - control - option - ‘)’) 4-fingers “shortcut”, but I'd like to switch back to normal. Do you have any idea of the reason why (command - option - ‘)’) does not work? I've been looking for such a shortcut in TextMate but haven't been able to find one.
Because Mac OS X interprets it as something different. If I see it right there is no cmd+opt+} on a French keyboard-layout, there is only cmd+} because of the way } is typed ( opt+) ) Either you switch to another layout (preferably US) which will make some other things harder for you[1] or you put the shortcut on something self-defined
Niels
[1] I have to admit that I'm a bad person, switched back to German layout because it was really uncomfortable for me with the US-layout even though I got it memorized fast, it made me slower in typing because of the way umlauts and ß are typed and you need them more often then you can imagine. When I have to type Japanese or Korean I stay with the US-layout as before because there it is strange to use the German one
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Le 3 avr. 07 à 22:38, Niels Kobschätzki a écrit :
On Apr 2, 2007, at 4:21 PM, Édouard Gilbert wrote:
Hi every one,
I haven't been able to find any post about the topic, but I must admit the number of post containing command and completion is indeed quite impressive.
Here is my problem. I'm French and I'm using an azerty keyboard. I can't use the default (command - option - }) “LaTeX command completion based on current word” shortcut. On an azerty keyboard, please note it must be typed (command - option - shift - ‘)’) and that the ‘)’ is located two keys left from the delete key, next to the upper figure ‘0’. Worse, even when I try to change the shortcut to (command - option - shift - ‘)’), it doesn't work. In fact, it looks like the shortcut doesn't trigger a thing.
I currently worked around the problem using (command - control - option - ‘)’) 4-fingers “shortcut”, but I'd like to switch back to normal. Do you have any idea of the reason why (command - option - ‘)’) does not work? I've been looking for such a shortcut in TextMate but haven't been able to find one.
Because Mac OS X interprets it as something different. If I see it right there is no cmd+opt+} on a French keyboard-layout, there is only cmd+} because of the way } is typed ( opt+) ) Either you switch to another layout (preferably US) which will make some other things harder for you[1] or you put the shortcut on something self-defined
Well, actually, it's more like there is only cmd+opt+) and not cmd+opt +}. ;) Anyway, when editing the LaTeX bundle to switch the shortcut to the closer to default, that is cmd+opt+), one would expect the Bundle Editor to actually change. It does not. cmd+opt+) seems to be a “forbidden” shortcut, and I still can't see why.
Niels
[1] I have to admit that I'm a bad person, switched back to German layout because it was really uncomfortable for me with the US- layout even though I got it memorized fast, it made me slower in typing because of the way umlauts and ß are typed and you need them more often then you can imagine. When I have to type Japanese or Korean I stay with the US-layout as before because there it is strange to use the German one
Well, I certainly don't wan't to loose the possibility of typing most accentuated letter with single stroke (with only shift or alt, for most accentuated caps), so I can understand that.
Thanks for your help,
Édouard
On Apr 3, 2007, at 10:54 PM, Édouard Gilbert wrote:
Le 3 avr. 07 à 22:38, Niels Kobschätzki a écrit :
On Apr 2, 2007, at 4:21 PM, Édouard Gilbert wrote:
Hi every one,
I haven't been able to find any post about the topic, but I must admit the number of post containing command and completion is indeed quite impressive.
Here is my problem. I'm French and I'm using an azerty keyboard. I can't use the default (command - option - }) “LaTeX command completion based on current word” shortcut. On an azerty keyboard, please note it must be typed (command - option - shift - ‘)’) and that the ‘)’ is located two keys left from the delete key, next to the upper figure ‘0’. Worse, even when I try to change the shortcut to (command - option - shift - ‘)’), it doesn't work. In fact, it looks like the shortcut doesn't trigger a thing.
I currently worked around the problem using (command - control - option - ‘)’) 4-fingers “shortcut”, but I'd like to switch back to normal. Do you have any idea of the reason why (command - option - ‘)’) does not work? I've been looking for such a shortcut in TextMate but haven't been able to find one.
Because Mac OS X interprets it as something different. If I see it right there is no cmd+opt+} on a French keyboard-layout, there is only cmd+} because of the way } is typed ( opt+) ) Either you switch to another layout (preferably US) which will make some other things harder for you[1] or you put the shortcut on something self-defined
Well, actually, it's more like there is only cmd+opt+) and not cmd +opt+}. ;) Anyway, when editing the LaTeX bundle to switch the shortcut to the closer to default, that is cmd+opt+), one would expect the Bundle Editor to actually change. It does not. cmd+opt+) seems to be a “forbidden” shortcut, and I still can't see why.
When I type cmd+opt+) with the French layout I get cmd+} because opt +) = } Therefore there is no cmd+opt+) on the French layout in contrast to the US-layout ( there is a cmd+opt+) and a cmd+opt+} ) In the German layout there is cmd+opt+) but no cmd+opt+} Ask Apple why they map the keyboard this way ;)
Niels
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Le 3 avr. 07 à 23:07, Niels Kobschätzki a écrit :
On Apr 3, 2007, at 10:54 PM, Édouard Gilbert wrote:
Le 3 avr. 07 à 22:38, Niels Kobschätzki a écrit :
On Apr 2, 2007, at 4:21 PM, Édouard Gilbert wrote:
Hi every one,
I haven't been able to find any post about the topic, but I must admit the number of post containing command and completion is indeed quite impressive.
Here is my problem. I'm French and I'm using an azerty keyboard. I can't use the default (command - option - }) “LaTeX command completion based on current word” shortcut. On an azerty keyboard, please note it must be typed (command - option - shift - ‘)’) and that the ‘)’ is located two keys left from the delete key, next to the upper figure ‘0’. Worse, even when I try to change the shortcut to (command - option - shift - ‘)’), it doesn't work. In fact, it looks like the shortcut doesn't trigger a thing.
I currently worked around the problem using (command - control - option - ‘)’) 4-fingers “shortcut”, but I'd like to switch back to normal. Do you have any idea of the reason why (command - option - ‘)’) does not work? I've been looking for such a shortcut in TextMate but haven't been able to find one.
Because Mac OS X interprets it as something different. If I see it right there is no cmd+opt+} on a French keyboard-layout, there is only cmd+} because of the way } is typed ( opt+) ) Either you switch to another layout (preferably US) which will make some other things harder for you[1] or you put the shortcut on something self-defined
Well, actually, it's more like there is only cmd+opt+) and not cmd +opt+}. ;) Anyway, when editing the LaTeX bundle to switch the shortcut to the closer to default, that is cmd+opt+), one would expect the Bundle Editor to actually change. It does not. cmd+opt+) seems to be a “forbidden” shortcut, and I still can't see why.
When I type cmd+opt+) with the French layout I get cmd+} because opt +) = } Therefore there is no cmd+opt+) on the French layout in contrast to the US-layout ( there is a cmd+opt+) and a cmd+opt+} ) In the German layout there is cmd+opt+) but no cmd+opt+} Ask Apple why they map the keyboard this way ;)
You manage to get “cmd }” in the TextMate bundle editor ? Because I can't, and that would be so much more comfortable. When I type cmd+opt +), the shortcut don't change, the selected field don't change to “Scope Selector” as it does when you change to change the shortcut to another one. In fact, it seems to do nothing. Is cmd-} already used for another TextMate application shortcut or a system-wide shortcut ?
Édouard
Niels
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On Apr 3, 2007, at 11:40 PM, Édouard Gilbert wrote:
Le 3 avr. 07 à 23:07, Niels Kobschätzki a écrit :
On Apr 3, 2007, at 10:54 PM, Édouard Gilbert wrote:
Le 3 avr. 07 à 22:38, Niels Kobschätzki a écrit :
On Apr 2, 2007, at 4:21 PM, Édouard Gilbert wrote:
Hi every one,
I haven't been able to find any post about the topic, but I must admit the number of post containing command and completion is indeed quite impressive.
Here is my problem. I'm French and I'm using an azerty keyboard. I can't use the default (command - option - }) “LaTeX command completion based on current word” shortcut. On an azerty keyboard, please note it must be typed (command - option - shift - ‘)’) and that the ‘)’ is located two keys left from the delete key, next to the upper figure ‘0’. Worse, even when I try to change the shortcut to (command - option - shift - ‘)’), it doesn't work. In fact, it looks like the shortcut doesn't trigger a thing.
I currently worked around the problem using (command - control
- option -
‘)’) 4-fingers “shortcut”, but I'd like to switch back to normal. Do you have any idea of the reason why (command - option - ‘)’) does not work? I've been looking for such a shortcut in TextMate but haven't been able to find one.
Because Mac OS X interprets it as something different. If I see it right there is no cmd+opt+} on a French keyboard-layout, there is only cmd+} because of the way } is typed ( opt+) ) Either you switch to another layout (preferably US) which will make some other things harder for you[1] or you put the shortcut on something self-defined
Well, actually, it's more like there is only cmd+opt+) and not cmd +opt+}. ;) Anyway, when editing the LaTeX bundle to switch the shortcut to the closer to default, that is cmd+opt+), one would expect the Bundle Editor to actually change. It does not. cmd+opt+) seems to be a “forbidden” shortcut, and I still can't see why.
When I type cmd+opt+) with the French layout I get cmd+} because opt+) = } Therefore there is no cmd+opt+) on the French layout in contrast to the US-layout ( there is a cmd+opt+) and a cmd+opt+} ) In the German layout there is cmd+opt+) but no cmd+opt+} Ask Apple why they map the keyboard this way ;)
You manage to get “cmd }” in the TextMate bundle editor ? Because I can't, and that would be so much more comfortable. When I type cmd +opt+), the shortcut don't change, the selected field don't change to “Scope Selector” as it does when you change to change the shortcut to another one. In fact, it seems to do nothing. Is cmd-} already used for another TextMate application shortcut or a system- wide shortcut ?
I could enter it w/out any problem when I'm using the French layout. I looked through TextMate but couldn't find hat cmd-} is already taken. In the global shortcuts I couldn't find it as well. And if it would be, I wouldn't be able to enter it as well. I used the layout French and not French-numerical in the International preferences pane. Maybe that helps :)
Niels
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On Apr 3, 2007, at 5:40 PM, Édouard Gilbert wrote:
When I type cmd+opt+) with the French layout I get cmd+} because opt+) = } Therefore there is no cmd+opt+) on the French layout in contrast to the US-layout ( there is a cmd+opt+) and a cmd+opt+} ) In the German layout there is cmd+opt+) but no cmd+opt+} Ask Apple why they map the keyboard this way ;)
You manage to get “cmd }” in the TextMate bundle editor ? Because I can't, and that would be so much more comfortable. When I type cmd +opt+), the shortcut don't change, the selected field don't change to “Scope Selector” as it does when you change to change the shortcut to another one. In fact, it seems to do nothing. Is cmd-} already used for another TextMate application shortcut or a system- wide shortcut ?
Please everyone, if you are bottom-posting then please edit the post and remove parts that are not necessary for the discussion any more, leaving the parts that you are replying to. Otherwise bottom-posting can become so much worse than top-posting.
For the question at hand, Edouard can you remove the shortcut from the command, by clicking the x that appears? If so, can you *now* enter the key combo you want.
Oh yeah almost forgot, this doesn't really have to do with the LaTeX bundle, it's a question about key equivalents.
Édouard
Niels
Haris Skiadas Department of Mathematics and Computer Science Hanover College
For the question at hand, Edouard can you remove the shortcut from the command, by clicking the x that appears? If so, can you *now* enter the key combo you want.
I've already tried it, it was no use.
Oh yeah almost forgot, this doesn't really have to do with the LaTeX bundle, it's a question about key equivalents.
In fact, it isn't, but the problem appeared only with that particular function. Anyway, the problem was that the System Preferences > Universal Access > Zoom option was on (why it was, I have no clue) and that one of its shortcut are, on a french layout, cmd opt - (minus) and cmd opt ).
Thank you very much again to both of you for your help.
Haris Skiadas
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