On Tue, Oct 25, at 4:58 AM, Andreas Wahlin wrote:

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• Unpack the package
• Copy the InputManagersManager folder to ~/Library
• Copy the InputManagers/InputManagersManager folder to ~/Library/

InputManagers, or if you do not have a ~/Library/InputManagers

These two actions seem to do almost the same thing, right? Is this what you want in the end? ~/Library/InputManagers/InputManagers/InputManagersManager.bundle (with the info file)?

I knew I should have changed the names...

You should end up with:

~/Library/InputManagers/InputManagersManager.bundle ~/Library/InputManagersManager/TextMate/TmCodeBrowser2.IMMbundle

Once you got this and restart TM you should see the CodeBrowser window.

Gerd

According to Gerd Knops:

Once you got this and restart TM you should see the CodeBrowser window.

TextMate refuses to run and crash after installing CodeBrowser. Panther 10.3.9.

2005-10-26 12:26:58.235 TextMate[7022] InputManagersManager startup 2005-10-26 12:26:58.242 TextMate[7022] InputManagersManager: TextMate: loading /Volumes/Users/roberto/Library/InputManagersManager/TextMate/TmCodeBrowser2.IMMbundle 2005-10-26 12:26:58.324 TextMate[7022] TmCodeBrowser2 loaded, app is TextMate 2005-10-26 12:26:58.431 TextMate[7022] An uncaught exception was raised 2005-10-26 12:26:58.432 TextMate[7022] *** -[NSKeyedUnarchiver decodeObjectForKey:]: cannot decode object of class (NSTreeController) 2005-10-26 12:26:58.432 TextMate[7022] *** Uncaught exception: <NSInvalidUnarchiveOperationException> *** -[NSKeyedUnarchiver decodeObjectForKey:]: cannot decode object of class (NSTreeController)

On Tue, Oct 25, at 5:40 AM, Jeroen van der Ham wrote:

Hi,

This seems pretty cool!

Thanks!

But here's a request for some minimal documentation: What hooks do you use to determine what to display in the code browser? I'd like to use it to navigate LaTeX files as well, if possible...

Eventually I hope to hook into the Syntax Coloring engine, so any language TM knows would work. Currently though I use the "Exuberant CTAGS" [1]. They do not support LaTeX, but if regular expressions don't scare you, you can probably come up with some basic LaTeX support by creating a ~/.ctags file with just the right lines. Here is an example of a real basic and incomplete HTML definition (from before ctags had HTML support):

--langdef=html --langmap=html:.htm.html --regex-html=/<a[ \t]+href[ \t]*=[ \t]*"([^"]+)/\1/HRefs/i --regex-html=/<img[ \t]+src[ \t]*=[ \t]*"([^"]+)/\1/Images/i --regex-html=/<h([1-6])[^>]*>([^<]*)/\2 (\1)/Headers/i

Basically the --langdef line defines the name of the language, the -- langmap line the file extensions. One or more --regex lines then define what to parse out of the file, see the ctags manual [2] for more details. You can try your entries out in a terminal window (replace 'YourSourceFile'):

~/Library/InputManagersManager/TextMate/TmCodeBrowser2.IMMbundle/ Contents/Resources/ctags --fields=Kn --excmd=pattern --sort=no -f - YourSourceFile

Hope that helps!

Gerd

[1] http://ctags.sourceforge.net/ [2] http://ctags.sourceforge.net/ctags.html

On Tue, Oct 25, at 11:43 AM, Eric Hsu wrote:

This looks like it should be extremely cool. However, I cannot on my first pass make the window display any information. I've installed ctags from source. Can somebody (not necessarily Gerd) who's gotten this to work tell me what I should expect this to do out of the box?

(I was hoping my perl script would be parsed.)

Sorry, I don't really understand Gerd's HTML example either.

No need to install ctags, TmCodeBrowser uses it's internal version of exuberant ctags (the ctags installed on OS X is not exuberant ctags). It does support perl.

For a perl script to yield some results, it must have some subroutines, and either have one of the extensions *.pl *.pm *.plx *.perl, or it must be executable and have the typical '#!/some/path/ perl' first line.

Hope that helps!

Gerd

On Tue, Oct 25, at 1:12 PM, Eric Hsu wrote:

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For a perl script to yield some results, it must have some subroutines, and either have one of the extensions *.pl *.pm *.plx *.perl, or it must be executable and have the typical '#!/some/ path/perl' first line.

Ah, it's lovely! It's very nice to have the persistent window, actually.

Glad it works for you now! I like the persistent window (as opposed to a popup) myself, helps navigating large and/or unknown sources. For some reason using a popup or the TM 'Go to symbol' window seems more prone to break my concentration than using the persistent window.

I was confused because the TMCB 1 screenshot had a variable list as well as subroutines, so I thought it would pick up variables from a typical perl script.

It does for some languages (the screenshot was from a 'C' source), but not for perl.

Thanks for the short note... I know how annoying it is to release something and say there's no documentation and then have people ask for documentation. :)

That's OK.

best wishes, Eric

Thanks!

Gerd

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I second that, any links are appreciated (having a tough time getting started with the Apple docs). Thanks! _matt

On Oct 25, 2005, at 11:57 AM, Lukas Pitschl wrote:

hi,

i wanted to know if anyone of you knows good resources where the writing of input managers is described.

thanks in advance

lukas pitschl

Am 25.10.2005 um 20:28 schrieb Gerd Knops:

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On Tue, Oct 25, at 1:12 PM, Eric Hsu wrote:

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For a perl script to yield some results, it must have some subroutines, and either have one of the extensions *.pl *.pm *.plx *.perl, or it must be executable and have the typical '#!/ some/path/perl' first line.

Ah, it's lovely! It's very nice to have the persistent window, actually.

Glad it works for you now! I like the persistent window (as opposed to a popup) myself, helps navigating large and/or unknown sources. For some reason using a popup or the TM 'Go to symbol' window seems more prone to break my concentration than using the persistent window.

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I was confused because the TMCB 1 screenshot had a variable list as well as subroutines, so I thought it would pick up variables from a typical perl script.

It does for some languages (the screenshot was from a 'C' source), but not for perl.

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Thanks for the short note... I know how annoying it is to release something and say there's no documentation and then have people ask for documentation. :)

That's OK.

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best wishes, Eric

Thanks!

Gerd

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On Oct 25, 2005, at 20:29, Allan Odgaard wrote:

On 25/10/2005, at 17.50, Gerd Knops wrote:

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Eventually I hope to hook into the Syntax Coloring engine, so any language TM knows would work.

Well, one of the reasons I haven't made a popup yet is, that the TM syntax coloring engine isn't really sufficient for all languages. I.e. there's no way it can capture obj-c multi-argument methods as one entity (since they are not that in the source), and coming up with rules to make it parse C++ functions is also all but simple (if not impossible).

So while it has the advantage of not repeating everything for the function popup/code browser, and supporting mixed documents (HTML with embedded CSS, JS, Ruby, PHP, etc.), it's not really working for the two languages I primarely use.

Makes sense. To bad the exuberant ctags don't support ObjC either. Back then NeXTSTEP had a ctags version that knew ObjC, but the sources were never public. I wonder if the compiler could be tickled into cooperation...

And great work making your ctags implementation work with TM! I'm curious, do you get by alone by NSWindow notification and querying representedFile? I'd think the tab-switching would require a little more than that!?!

These details are so dirty that I'd prefer not to discuss them openly! Basically I am doing something similar to 'poseAsClass:', but on the method level. Did I mention it is dirty?

I can easily add (i.e. next build) that TM e.g. loads extensions from AppSupport/TextMate/Plugins — it seems for your “plugin” it wouldn't need to expose any API, thus it's a safe way to slowly extend TM to support plugins

That'd be great, that would at least avoid the InputManagers hack.

(my conservatism is primarily caused by the fear of having to maintain a stupid legacy API for all eternity, that and lack of time of course).

That I understand all to well! And the Commands actually take care of many things already. I could see an argument for bundles for project management, version control plugins, and may be (though that would probably be quite involved and hard to generalize for multiple languages) debugging. Almost everything else can be done with commands. I am really itching to change a few small details of the internal workings of TM (word characters on a per language base, handling of double-click extend), but the code in question seems to be mostly C++ which is a lot less hackable than ObjC...

Gerd

On Wed, Oct 26, at 5:47 PM, Allan Odgaard wrote:

On 26/10/2005, at 6.19, Gerd Knops wrote:

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I can easily add (i.e. next build) that TM e.g. loads extensions from AppSupport/TextMate/Plugins — it seems for your “plugin” it wouldn't need to expose any API, thus it's a safe way to slowly extend TM to support plugins

That'd be great, that would at least avoid the InputManagers hack.

And “double click to install”, which seems could have benefited a few users :)

Oh, forgot about that option! Yep, that'll make life a lot easier. So will the 'plugins' have a specific extension like 'tmplugin'?

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[...] I am really itching to change a few small details of the internal workings of TM (word characters on a per language base, handling of double-click extend), but the code in question seems to be mostly C++ which is a lot less hackable than ObjC...

Yes, the model is mainly C++, and your requests are on the to-do, but at least the word characters is not a minor detail, since word characters are implemented through character traits, so the traits are static member functions which have no context what-so-ever (and the traits are used a lot of places).

The word characters I can live with, but the double-click extend is driving me bonkers about 100 times a day...

;-)

Gerd

At 4:09 PM +0200 10/26/05, Jeroen van der Ham wrote:

Yup, it helped, here's a sample Latex snippet, it only grabs labels and (sub)*sections, but should be generally useful.

Also very cool that this works immediately, you don't need to restart TM or the codebrowser.

Jeroen.

--langdef=latex --langmap=latex:.tex --regex-latex=/\label{*([^} \t]+)[ \t]*}/\1/l,label/ --regex-latex=/^\(sub)*section{([^}]*)}/\2/s,section/

Could you give one more level of detail? What does one do with this text? I didn't follow Gerd's first explanation... sorry.

- Eric

At 12:03 PM -0500 10/26/05, Gerd Knops wrote:

Create a file named '.ctags' (note the leading dot) in your home directory, and add the lines above to that file.

Thanks! It's working great now. I see (on review) that I missed that line in your original e-mail.

best, Eric

On Wed, Oct 26, at 3:49 PM, Charilaos Skiadas wrote:

I get:

2005-10-26 15:45:15.724 TextMate[15446] Can't open input server / Users/haris/Library/InputManagers/InputManagersManager.bundle

You went one level to deep when copying. You need

/Users/haris/Library/InputManagers/InputManagersManager/ InputManagersManager.bundle /Users/haris/Library/InputManagers/InputManagersManager/Info

Gerd

On Oct 26, 2005, at 20:18, Charilaos Skiadas wrote:

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Ok, I reinstalled them, but still a no go: 2005-10-26 18:25:56.869 TextMate[14896] Can't open input server / Users/haris/Library/InputManagers/InputManagersManager

haris$ ls -la Library/InputManagers/InputManagersManager/ total 32 drwxr-xr-x 6 haris haris 204 Oct 26 18:24 . drwxr-xr-x 4 haris haris 136 Oct 26 18:24 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 haris haris 6148 Oct 26 18:24 .DS_Store -rw-r--r-- 1 haris haris 4096 Aug 18 14:07 Info -rw-r--r-- 1 haris haris 438 Aug 18 14:07 Info.1 drwxr-xr-x 3 haris haris 102 Sep 2 13:15 InputManagersManager.bundle

Running 10.4.2

That looks wrong. There should not be an 'Info.1' file, and the 'Info' file should be 438 bytes, not 4096 bytes.

Gerd

Charilaos Skiadas wrote:

THIS THING IS AMAZING!!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!

I am in the process of writing my thesis in latex, so as you can imagine this will be particularly useful as the number of pages increases. :-)

I must say that I like it very much too.

Initially I created the labels ctags as something that I copied from some other website and thought that the section overview would be the main use. But if you use the labels according to the snippets (fig:…, sec:…) then it becomes a very nice way to have an overview of all your labels.

Jeroen.

According to Gerd Knops:

That looks wrong. There should not be an 'Info.1' file, and the 'Info' file should be 438 bytes, not 4096 bytes.

Would it be too difficult to make it running on Panther?

Please please pretty please with sugar on top?

According to Gerd Knops:

Very sorry, but that is not likely to happen unless someone pays me to do it. It would require a complete rewrite and a lot more code.

Fair enough.

/me wanders off to kick Checkpoint a bit more

what languages are currently supported by the tmcodebrowser? so far only php worked for me, but that's awsome.

is there python support, as that would make my life and hopefully the life of other programers as well much easier.

lukas Am 27.10.2005 um 15:14 schrieb Robert M. Ullrey:

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On Oct 25, 2005, at 3:40 AM, Jeroen van der Ham wrote:

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I'd like to use it to navigate LaTeX files as well, if possible...

Here Here! A second vote for LaTeX.

Robert

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On Thu, Oct 27, at 8:14 AM, Robert M. Ullrey wrote:

On Oct 25, 2005, at 3:40 AM, Jeroen van der Ham wrote:

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I'd like to use it to navigate LaTeX files as well, if possible...

Here Here! A second vote for LaTeX.

Just create a file ~/.ctags containing these lines (courtesy of Jeroen van der Ham):

--langdef=latex --langmap=latex:.tex --regex-latex=/\label{*([^} \t]+)[ \t]*}/\1/l,label/ --regex-latex=/^\(sub)*section{([^}]*)}/\2/s,section/

Gerd

Corey O'Connor wrote:

With the latest TM build I cannot get the feature of TmCodeBrowser where a click in the tag list will scroll to that line in the document to work. Does anybody else experience this problem?

I'm also having this problem (1.1b17 632). Any suggestions?

Regards, Ruben

Gerd Knops wrote:

So currently it does not work for filenames containing spaces.

I also have that problem with files having no white spaces in their filenames...