27 Dec
2010
27 Dec
'10
2:23 p.m.
I have noticed that especially after upgrading to 10.6, TextMate has become more and more
crash prone -- especially after switching from another app back to TextMate. I use it
mainly in larger LaTeX projects in conjunction with git and nowadays it would crash, two,
three times a week. I often switch back and forth between Skim or Preview and Textmate.
Hence, I mostly don't lose any data, because I've saved the file before switching
apps, but nevertheless, it's quite disconcerting.
Back in the (good old ;-) 10.4 days, TextMate was absolutely rock solid and it was
exceedingly rare for TextMate to crash. Are those known issues? Will there be more fixes
down the road for 1.5 addresses stability problems? What are the root causes?
27 Dec
27 Dec
2:40 p.m.
On Dec 27, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Max Lein wrote:
I have noticed that especially after upgrading to
10.6, TextMate has become more and more crash prone -- especially after switching from
another app back to TextMate. I use it mainly in larger LaTeX projects in conjunction with
git and nowadays it would crash, two, three times a week.
I don't think this is TextMate's fault. Let me guess: You're using the
ProjectPlus plug-in. Does the issue below sound like your problem?
https://github.com/ciaran/projectplus/issues/issue/29
I don't know if it will ever get looked at, but as a temporary fix, disabling status
flags for Git should keep it from crashing. They usually aren't accurate anyway, in my
experience.
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3:53 p.m.
On Dec 27, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Rob McBroom wrote:
On Dec 27, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Max Lein wrote:
Gerd Knops addressed this a while back. ProjectPlus expects older compiler settings than
what's default in Snow Leopard, but it wasn't too difficult to compile a patched
version of PP.
On Aug 12, 2010, at 10:57 AM, Gerd Knops wrote:
I have noticed that especially after upgrading to
10.6, TextMate has become more and more crash prone -- especially after switching from
another app back to TextMate. I use it mainly in larger LaTeX projects in conjunction with
git and nowadays it would crash, two, three times a week.
I don't think this is TextMate's fault. Let me guess: You're using the
ProjectPlus plug-in. Does the issue below sound like your problem?
https://github.com/ciaran/projectplus/issues/issue/29
I don't know if it will ever get looked at, but as a temporary fix, disabling status
flags for Git should keep it from crashing. They usually aren't accurate anyway, in my
experience.
On Aug 12, 2010, at 7:22 AM, Rob McBroom wrote:
On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Louis Sherwin
wrote:
A long time ago I sent in a patch, but that never made it into PP. I work with
TM, PP and git all day, and do not have any crashes, so maybe that patch may help folks.
I'll attach it below.
Gerd I recently started using TM again to work on a
Rails project and upgraded
form 1.5.7 to 1.5.9 (1510) on 10.6.4. Now the program is crashing several
times a day. I am working with projects and git scm enabled. Other than that
nothing special or unusual.
Does this sound like your problem?
http://github.com/ciaran/projectplus/issues#issue/29
28 Dec
28 Dec
2:18 p.m.
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Charles Turner <vze26m98(a)optonline.net> wrote:
Gerd Knops addressed this a while back. ProjectPlus
expects older compiler settings than what's default in Snow Leopard, but it wasn't
too difficult to compile a patched version of PP.
Are there any instructions on how to apply this patch?
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3:16 p.m.
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Charles Turner
<vze26m98(a)optonline.net> wrote:
So, I tried to answer my own question and it led me on an adventure.
I downloaded the zip file attachment in Charle's post, then upzipped it.
I figured I'd have a look at it, so I clicked 'open
with>Textmate(default)' in the finder.
Textmate never opened, and no matter what I did Textmate would NO LONGER open.
So, I re-downloaded textmate, and it STILL wouldn't open.
So I went into Library/Application Support/Textmate and removed the
project plus plugin, and TEXTMATE STILL WOULDN'T open.
Finally I rebooted, and TextMate is once again working, I think.
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Gerd Knops addressed this a while back.
ProjectPlus expects older compiler settings than what's default in Snow Leopard, but
it wasn't too difficult to compile a patched version of PP.
Are there any instructions on how to apply this patch?
2 Jan
2 Jan
7:02 p.m.
On 28 Dec 2010, at 16:16, Rick DeNatale wrote:
[…] Textmate never opened, and no matter what I did
Textmate would NO LONGER open.
For the records, a bug was introduced in r1616 related to this file:
~/Library/Application Support/TextMate/TextMate.pid
If that file exists and contains a process ID of a running process, TextMate will not
start.
This should be rare, since process IDs are not re-used (before the counter wraps) and
TextMate does delete the file on quit — but e.g. a machine shutdown w/o properly shutdown
can cause the problem to arise.
6:34 p.m.
Max Lein <realoreocookie(a)gmx.de> wrote:
I have noticed that especially after upgrading to
10.6, TextMate has
become more and more crash prone
I use TextMate very, very, VERY heavily and constantly and I never
crash. I do freeze sometimes (the result of some darned language syntax
parser getting caught in a loop, so I save frequently just in case, but
I never crash). m.
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29 Dec
29 Dec
2:25 p.m.
On 2010-12-28 13:34, Matt Neuburg wrote:
Max Lein<realoreocookie(a)gmx.de> wrote:
Try doing a regular expression search with a malformed regex (say, a
missing parenthesis). *THAT* will let you experience the joy of
crashing. :-)
Hey Allan, feature request for TM2: Regex syntax highlighting in the
search/replace dialog!
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I have noticed that especially after upgrading to
10.6, TextMate has
become more and more crash prone
I use TextMate very, very, VERY heavily and constantly and I never
crash. I do freeze sometimes (the result of some darned language syntax
parser getting caught in a loop, so I save frequently just in case, but
I never crash). m. 
31 Dec
31 Dec
11:55 p.m.
On 2010-12-29 06:25:58 -0800, Steve King said:
Hey Allan, feature request for TM2: Regex syntax
highlighting in the
search/replace dialog!
How about a search/replace engine capable of filtering 1M lines of
Apache access log. Attempted to do that recently and TM entered a
deadlock, greater than 100% CPU usage (108-125%) and hopping from core
to core as the OS tried to work around the stuck process. Specifically
attempted to do that with the following regex: (stripping access from
localhost)
Search: '^::1.+$\n' (without quotes)
Replace: '' (empty)
Searching one item at a time (pressing next) works fine and matches
exactly what I'd expect. (And yeah, I know grep is a better solution;
it's what I used after TM locked up.)
- Alice.
1 Jan
1 Jan
12:08 a.m.
On 2010-12-31 15:55:55 -0800, Alice Bevan–McGregor said:
greater than 100% CPU usage (108-125%) and hopping
from core
to core as the OS tried to work around the stuck process.
In an effort to be helpful, rather than just bitter, replacements (and
searches / find in project) needs to be optimized to use GCD (Grand
Central Dispatch). Optimizations can be made to chop an in-memory file
up into parts which are then distributed. This also allows for
search/replace operations to be killed if something goes wrong without
taking out the main TextMate process.
- Alice.
2 Jan
2 Jan
7:06 p.m.
On 1 Jan 2011, at 00:55, Alice Bevan–McGregor wrote:
On 2010-12-29 06:25:58 -0800, Steve King said:
Did you do a Find All? If so, I think the issue was more likely showing you the 1M results
in the list view.
Hey Allan, feature request for TM2: Regex syntax
highlighting in the search/replace dialog!
How about a search/replace engine capable of filtering 1M lines of Apache access log.
Attempted to do that recently and TM entered a deadlock, greater than 100% CPU usage
(108-125%) and hopping from core to core as the OS tried to work around the stuck process.
4 Jan
4 Jan
5:55 p.m.
On 2011-01-02 11:06:40 -0800, Allan Odgaard said:
Did you do a Find All? If so, I think the issue was
more likely showing
you the 1M results in the list view.
No, I had a single document open as its own project and was using Find
/ Replace (Command+F) to replace text in this one document.
- Alice.
11:37 p.m.
On 4 Jan 2011, at 18:55, Alice Bevan–McGregor wrote:
On 2011-01-02 11:06:40 -0800, Allan Odgaard said:
Ok, a “Replace All” over 1M lines where the newline character is involved is indeed
something that will take forever — GCD etc. is not the cure, as this is related to the
underlying data structure used.
I have a better data structure in 2.0 but also some new features which probably overall
will result in worse performance (and more memory used), so as for your original question,
I symphatize with you and it is an understandable request, but TM tend to be more about
features which work for normal sized documents than a text editor that scales well
regardless of what you throw at it.
Did you do a Find All? If so, I think the issue
was more likely showing you the 1M results in the list view.
No, I had a single document open as its own project and was using Find / Replace
(Command+F) to replace text in this one document.
2 Jan
2 Jan
7:03 p.m.
On 29 Dec 2010, at 15:25, Steve King wrote:
Try doing a regular expression search with a malformed
regex (say, a missing parenthesis). *THAT* will let you experience the joy of crashing.
:-)
Any reproducible example? A malformed regexp should not be accepted.
Perhaps you are thinking of a maliciously crafted regexp which cause exponential running
time?
7:07 p.m.
On Jan 2, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Allan Odgaard wrote:
On 29 Dec 2010, at 15:25, Steve King wrote:
Best "reproducible example" I can give you is install the Grails / Groovy
bundles and start coding. You should experience some crashes / lockups soon. It happens
when it tries to regex for syntax highlighting.
Regards,
-Josh
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http://joshuakehn.com
Try doing a regular expression search with a
malformed regex (say, a missing parenthesis). *THAT* will let you experience the joy of
crashing. :-)
Any reproducible example? A malformed regexp should not be accepted.
Perhaps you are thinking of a maliciously crafted regexp which cause exponential running
time?
7:29 p.m.
On 2 Jan 2011, at 20:07, Joshua Kehn wrote:
[…] Best "reproducible example" I can give
you is install the Grails / Groovy bundles and start coding. You should experience some
crashes / lockups soon. It happens when it tries to regex for syntax highlighting.
A grammar can cause infinite loops → lookup TextMate. Sounds like the Groovy grammar has
such problems (which should be fixed in the grammar).
This wasn’t exactly what Steven was talking about.
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