On Mar 4, 2005, at 4:40 PM, Nednieuws wrote:
Op 5-mrt-05 om 1:37 heeft Tobias Luetke het volgende geschreven:
Plus you have its dev as loyal fan if any additional features are needed.
Instead of using a wiki, you should check out hieraki.org. Looks like a wiki but goes further and feels way better.
Just to clarify: Hieraki invites you to write a document, not a snippet, which is my main gripe with how people tend to use a wiki.
I really, really like this approach. I'll be using this for some of my own projects. Hieraki even improves on the usual two-step wiki preview process. Very cool.
I guess this is as good a time as any to say that I don't like PmWiki at all. The site structuring system feels weird; the basic formatting operators are clunky; the style is not attractive. IMHO. :)
Chris
Op 6-mrt-05 om 8:48 heeft Chris Thomas het volgende geschreven:
Plus you have its dev as loyal fan if any additional features are needed.
Instead of using a wiki, you should check out hieraki.org. Looks like a wiki but goes further and feels way better.
Just to clarify: Hieraki invites you to write a document, not a snippet, which is my main gripe with how people tend to use a wiki.
I really, really like this approach. I'll be using this for some of my own projects. Hieraki even improves on the usual two-step wiki preview process. Very cool.
I knew it was a good thing to put a little reasoning behind my suggestion.
I guess this is as good a time as any to say that I don't like PmWiki at all. The site structuring system feels weird; the basic formatting operators are clunky; the style is not attractive. IMHO. :)
Agreed. But it's Allen who has to maintain it. (Or is it the users?) Plus, having Tobi on your site and his wilingness to support it is very nice indeed. I envision a fully loaded Hieraki and Tobi creating a "Publish to PDF" button. There you go, a full-fledged manual to be distributed with the application, chapters and all.
Agreed. But it's Allen who has to maintain it. (Or is it the users?) Plus, having Tobi on your site and his wilingness to support it is very nice indeed. I envision a fully loaded Hieraki and Tobi creating a "Publish to PDF" button. There you go, a full-fledged manual to be distributed with the application, chapters and all.
Publish to PDF is the most requested feature indeed. I haven't touched it becuase pdf export is still on the agenda of the ruby textile library which hieraki uses. The author is a real wiz and would be able to do a much better job than I.
That being said I added textile and one page html export to hieraki recently. With a bit of apple script i'm sure there would be an good way to print to pdf the exported html.
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On Mar 6, 2005, at 18:18, Tobias Luetke wrote:
That being said I added textile and one page html export to hieraki recently.
HTML export is really the most important for documentation since that's what the Help Book uses (although I think Apple state that it should be HTML 3.2 ;) ).
So a stupid question: where do I find install instructions for hieraki?
I can do a svn checkout, but I don't really know what to do from there.
********************************************************************* Quoting Allan Odgaard on [Sunday, March 6, 2005, +0100]
So a stupid question: where do I find install instructions for hieraki? I can do a svn checkout, but I don't really know what to do from there.
I concure. How does one get hieraki working, and do I need to download seperately "rake"?
Just curious, would running the html through html2latex produce the pdf?
Cheers
Op 6-mrt-05 om 18:31 heeft Allan Odgaard het volgende geschreven:
HTML export is really the most important for documentation since that's what the Help Book uses (although I think Apple state that it should be HTML 3.2 ;) ).
Don't you have an exporter for that, Tobi? Haven't checked the source, nor installed it yet.
So a stupid question: where do I find install instructions for hieraki?
I can do a svn checkout, but I don't really know what to do from there.
You will need a Rails installation for that. See www.rubyonrails.com. Then you just setup the db, point your server to that directory and you're done. I know of at least two people on this list that can help you with that.
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