Greetings,
When I google the two terms "bbedit balance" (without the quotes) and the resulting search ranks a textmate mailing list post as #1, I start thinking, "I wonder if Allan is aware of this?"
I checked previous discussions (but only through 2006) to see if anything had developed in the realm of balancing braces in the way that "the app formerly known as the mac programmers first choice" did, back in the day. And by the looks of things, I see only heavyweight solutions to balance tags, which I believe is way more than I need and possibly not what I want.
I also think it's undesirable to download an eval copy of "the app formerly known as the mac programmers first choice" for this feature. Perhaps my Christmas wish will be: Oh please, Oh please, Deliver command b, Under the tree.
Cheers!
the nameless popular programmers
On Apr 30, 2008, at 3:13 PM, Artie Ziff wrote:
Greetings,
When I google the two terms "bbedit balance" (without the quotes) and the resulting search ranks a textmate mailing list post as #1, I start thinking, "I wonder if Allan is aware of this?"
I checked previous discussions (but only through 2006) to see if anything had developed in the realm of balancing braces in the way that "the app formerly known as the mac programmers first choice" did, back in the day. And by the looks of things, I see only heavyweight solutions to balance tags, which I believe is way more than I need and possibly not what I want.
I also think it's undesirable to download an eval copy of "the app formerly known as the mac programmers first choice" for this feature. Perhaps my Christmas wish will be: Oh please, Oh please, Deliver command b, Under the tree.
Cheers!
the nameless popular programmers
Done. For HTML & XML that is. Check out the Experimental bundle. http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk/Bundles/Experimental.tmbundle/
I think I still have the screencast up at BundleForge.com I really need to update that site.
Done. For HTML & XML that is. Check out the Experimental bundle. http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk/Bundles/Experimental.tmbundle/
That's great to know about. It does a minimum of the "balance" functionality, IMHO. However, it appears to be some what finicky regarding which side of the brace one's cursor is on. So it's clunky at best. Though I am happy to learn about the single level of balance feature that it offers. It will be useful for occasional use. A former user of the "the app formerly known as the mac programmers first choice" would expect a much more refined implementation.
For a more refined version, imagine expanding the first selection wider... to the next larger scope of balanced braces by repeating the keystroke, and again.
And then picture using your mouse to click once on any brace and the respective block of code is selected to balance the brace that was selected with the mouse. (up or down the document) [[ actually it's a single mouse-down while a modifier key is pressed.]]
I think those features are useful when surfing through new code written by someone else. :)
I am presuming Allan would be needed for some of those aspects. Though if the internal architecture of Textmate does not support this feature, then that is understandable.
Cheers!
On May 1, 2008, at 1:39 AM, Artie Ziff wrote:
Done. For HTML & XML that is. Check out the Experimental bundle. http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk/Bundles/Experimental.tmbundle/
That's great to know about. It does a minimum of the "balance" functionality, IMHO. However, it appears to be some what finicky regarding which side of the brace one's cursor is on. So it's clunky at best. Though I am happy to learn about the single level of balance feature that it offers. It will be useful for occasional use. A former user of the "the app formerly known as the mac programmers first choice" would expect a much more refined implementation.
For a more refined version, imagine expanding the first selection wider... to the next larger scope of balanced braces by repeating the keystroke, and again.
And then picture using your mouse to click once on any brace and the respective block of code is selected to balance the brace that was selected with the mouse. (up or down the document) [[ actually it's a single mouse-down while a modifier key is pressed.]]
I think those features are useful when surfing through new code written by someone else. :)
I am presuming Allan would be needed for some of those aspects. Though if the internal architecture of Textmate does not support this feature, then that is understandable.
Cheers!
The current implementation actually has two ways to operate. Either like Dreamweaver or like BBEdit (yes, it's ok to say their name, they can take it).
The normal dreamweaver-esque one is repeatable. I don't think the other is. Yes, it does matter which side of the tag your cursor is on. It might make sense to make it also work for the opening tag on the current line when the cursor is in the leading space of that tag.
TM2 may offer more options as far as activating commands with the mouse.
Also you may want to check out Balance Jr from my subtleGradient bundle on GitHub. That bundle is just a pile of random stuff, so you can just rip the specific commands and macros you want out of it and double-click them to install in your personal bundle.
Doing a balance command is extremely complex and I'm incredibly impressed by Hans-Jörg Bibiko's super-awesome implementation. Although I'm certainly not against improvement.
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