Dear all,
when using the inline dictionary function (ctrl-cmd-D) the corresponding window appears but does not disappear. When trying to close TM it crashes.
Can anyone replicate this? I'm on Lion 10.7.1 on TM 1631.
cheers, Daniel
-- Daniel Stegmueller 1 New Road Oxford OX1 1NF United Kingdom phone: +44 1865 278685 mobile: +44 7794 909349
On 02-09-2011, at 19:47, Daniel Stegmueller wrote:
Dear all,
when using the inline dictionary function (ctrl-cmd-D) the corresponding window appears but does not disappear. When trying to close TM it crashes.
Can anyone replicate this? I'm on Lion 10.7.1 on TM 1631.
Yes almost. See my post dated 24th August. I have experienced crashes but also disappearing windows with no crashes. When I got the window back the popover was still there and unremovable.
For educational purposes you could also try and see what happens in a clean guest user account. TextMate and the popover behaved as expected with no issues.
Berend
On 02-09-2011, at 19:54, Berend Hasselman wrote:
On 02-09-2011, at 19:47, Daniel Stegmueller wrote:
Dear all,
when using the inline dictionary function (ctrl-cmd-D) the corresponding window appears but does not disappear. When trying to close TM it crashes.
Can anyone replicate this? I'm on Lion 10.7.1 on TM 1631.
Yes almost. See my post dated 24th August. I have experienced crashes but also disappearing windows with no crashes. When I got the window back the popover was still there and unremovable.
For educational purposes you could also try and see what happens in a clean guest user account. TextMate and the popover behaved as expected with no issues.
And I have not been able to resolve the problem.
Berend
Mine works after activating it via the Services menu the first time, after which the shortcut works fine.
Interestingly, when a word is selected by double clicking, the lookup works as expected. When the keyboard is used for text selection, however, the first word in the document is used.
—Quintis
On Sep 2, 2011, at 19:57, Berend Hasselman bhh@xs4all.nl wrote:
On 02-09-2011, at 19:54, Berend Hasselman wrote:
On 02-09-2011, at 19:47, Daniel Stegmueller wrote:
Dear all,
when using the inline dictionary function (ctrl-cmd-D) the corresponding window appears but does not disappear. When trying to close TM it crashes.
Can anyone replicate this? I'm on Lion 10.7.1 on TM 1631.
Yes almost. See my post dated 24th August. I have experienced crashes but also disappearing windows with no crashes. When I got the window back the popover was still there and unremovable.
For educational purposes you could also try and see what happens in a clean guest user account. TextMate and the popover behaved as expected with no issues.
And I have not been able to resolve the problem.
Berend
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On 02-09-2011, at 20:03, Quintis Venter wrote:
Mine works after activating it via the Services menu the first time, after which the shortcut works fine.
Activating what in the Services menu? I have activated Look Up in Dictionary and assigned a keyboard shortcut. That works after selecting a word and opens the Dictionary. But Command Control D still acts strangely.
Berend
Interestingly, when a word is selected by double clicking, the lookup works as expected. When the keyboard is used for text selection, however, the first word in the document is used.
—Quintis
On Sep 2, 2011, at 19:57, Berend Hasselman bhh@xs4all.nl wrote:
On 02-09-2011, at 19:54, Berend Hasselman wrote:
On 02-09-2011, at 19:47, Daniel Stegmueller wrote:
Dear all,
when using the inline dictionary function (ctrl-cmd-D) the corresponding window appears but does not disappear. When trying to close TM it crashes.
Can anyone replicate this? I'm on Lion 10.7.1 on TM 1631.
Yes almost. See my post dated 24th August. I have experienced crashes but also disappearing windows with no crashes. When I got the window back the popover was still there and unremovable.
For educational purposes you could also try and see what happens in a clean guest user account. TextMate and the popover behaved as expected with no issues.
And I have not been able to resolve the problem.
Berend
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This is weird… behavior becomes erratic when I enable "Lookup…" in keyboard prefs (it wasn't active, and has no assigned shortcut). Disabling it seems to restore the previously described behavior again. No crashes, though.
—Quintis
On Sep 2, 2011, at 2:11 PM, Berend Hasselman wrote:
On 02-09-2011, at 20:03, Quintis Venter wrote:
Mine works after activating it via the Services menu the first time, after which the shortcut works fine.
Activating what in the Services menu? I have activated Look Up in Dictionary and assigned a keyboard shortcut. That works after selecting a word and opens the Dictionary. But Command Control D still acts strangely.
Berend
Interestingly, when a word is selected by double clicking, the lookup works as expected. When the keyboard is used for text selection, however, the first word in the document is used.
—Quintis
On Sep 2, 2011, at 19:57, Berend Hasselman bhh@xs4all.nl wrote:
On 02-09-2011, at 19:54, Berend Hasselman wrote:
On 02-09-2011, at 19:47, Daniel Stegmueller wrote:
Dear all,
when using the inline dictionary function (ctrl-cmd-D) the corresponding window appears but does not disappear. When trying to close TM it crashes.
Can anyone replicate this? I'm on Lion 10.7.1 on TM 1631.
Yes almost. See my post dated 24th August. I have experienced crashes but also disappearing windows with no crashes. When I got the window back the popover was still there and unremovable.
For educational purposes you could also try and see what happens in a clean guest user account. TextMate and the popover behaved as expected with no issues.
And I have not been able to resolve the problem.
Berend
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Same for me. Of course I can run the service menu item manually, but that kind of defeats the purpose...
Daniel
On 2 Sep 2011, at 19:11, Berend Hasselman wrote:
On 02-09-2011, at 20:03, Quintis Venter wrote:
Mine works after activating it via the Services menu the first time, after which the shortcut works fine.
Activating what in the Services menu? I have activated Look Up in Dictionary and assigned a keyboard shortcut. That works after selecting a word and opens the Dictionary. But Command Control D still acts strangely.
Berend
Interestingly, when a word is selected by double clicking, the lookup works as expected. When the keyboard is used for text selection, however, the first word in the document is used.
—Quintis
On Sep 2, 2011, at 19:57, Berend Hasselman bhh@xs4all.nl wrote:
On 02-09-2011, at 19:54, Berend Hasselman wrote:
On 02-09-2011, at 19:47, Daniel Stegmueller wrote:
Dear all,
when using the inline dictionary function (ctrl-cmd-D) the corresponding window appears but does not disappear. When trying to close TM it crashes.
Can anyone replicate this? I'm on Lion 10.7.1 on TM 1631.
Yes almost. See my post dated 24th August. I have experienced crashes but also disappearing windows with no crashes. When I got the window back the popover was still there and unremovable.
For educational purposes you could also try and see what happens in a clean guest user account. TextMate and the popover behaved as expected with no issues.
And I have not been able to resolve the problem.
Berend
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In mine, it works "normally" except for the fact that it *always* picks up the word on which the mouse is resting. In other words, it ignores the highlighted word.
I guess that's why Quintis noticed the quirk that it only picked up the selection when the word is double-clicked: he perhaps left the mouse on top of it after doing so.
Other than that, TextMate does not crash for while doing CTRL+CMD+D. It did, however, "beach-balled" for a few seconds the very first time I tried it. I guess it took a few seconds to load the sub-system the first time.
dZ.
On Sep 02, 2011, at 17:06, Daniel Stegmueller wrote:
Same for me. Of course I can run the service menu item manually, but that kind of defeats the purpose...
Daniel
On 2 Sep 2011, at 19:11, Berend Hasselman wrote:
On 02-09-2011, at 20:03, Quintis Venter wrote:
Mine works after activating it via the Services menu the first time, after which the shortcut works fine.
Activating what in the Services menu? I have activated Look Up in Dictionary and assigned a keyboard shortcut. That works after selecting a word and opens the Dictionary. But Command Control D still acts strangely.
Berend
Interestingly, when a word is selected by double clicking, the lookup works as expected. When the keyboard is used for text selection, however, the first word in the document is used.
—Quintis
On Sep 2, 2011, at 19:57, Berend Hasselman bhh@xs4all.nl wrote:
On 02-09-2011, at 19:54, Berend Hasselman wrote:
On 02-09-2011, at 19:47, Daniel Stegmueller wrote:
Dear all,
when using the inline dictionary function (ctrl-cmd-D) the corresponding window appears but does not disappear. When trying to close TM it crashes.
Can anyone replicate this? I'm on Lion 10.7.1 on TM 1631.
Yes almost. See my post dated 24th August. I have experienced crashes but also disappearing windows with no crashes. When I got the window back the popover was still there and unremovable.
For educational purposes you could also try and see what happens in a clean guest user account. TextMate and the popover behaved as expected with no issues.
And I have not been able to resolve the problem.
Berend
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I'd like to add that I just noticed that the behaviour or picking up the word under the mouse seems to be global in Lion. I hadn't noticed before, but it works the same in Mail and other applications.
In other words, CTRL+CMD+D in TextMate running on Lion seems to work correctly, at least in my installation.
dZ.
On Sep 02, 2011, at 17:48, DZ-Jay wrote:
In mine, it works "normally" except for the fact that it *always* picks up the word on which the mouse is resting. In other words, it ignores the highlighted word.
I guess that's why Quintis noticed the quirk that it only picked up the selection when the word is double-clicked: he perhaps left the mouse on top of it after doing so.
I think picking up the word 'under' the mouse is default behavior (in SL as well).
I just tried it as a new user - works flawlessly. I then removed the whole ~/Library/App support/textmate folder - still crashes....
D
On 2 Sep 2011, at 22:55, DZ-Jay wrote:
I'd like to add that I just noticed that the behaviour or picking up the word under the mouse seems to be global in Lion. I hadn't noticed before, but it works the same in Mail and other applications.
In other words, CTRL+CMD+D in TextMate running on Lion seems to work correctly, at least in my installation.
dZ.
On Sep 02, 2011, at 17:48, DZ-Jay wrote:
In mine, it works "normally" except for the fact that it *always* picks up the word on which the mouse is resting. In other words, it ignores the highlighted word.
I guess that's why Quintis noticed the quirk that it only picked up the selection when the word is double-clicked: he perhaps left the mouse on top of it after doing so.
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You're right, Daniel. The problem becomes really strange when the mouse isn't near any of the text, in which case it seems to assume the first word and still ignores the highlighted word. Strange behavior indeed.
—Quintis
On Sep 2, 2011, at 5:48 PM, DZ-Jay wrote:
In mine, it works "normally" except for the fact that it *always* picks up the word on which the mouse is resting. In other words, it ignores the highlighted word.
I guess that's why Quintis noticed the quirk that it only picked up the selection when the word is double-clicked: he perhaps left the mouse on top of it after doing so.
Other than that, TextMate does not crash for while doing CTRL+CMD+D. It did, however, "beach-balled" for a few seconds the very first time I tried it. I guess it took a few seconds to load the sub-system the first time.
dZ.
On Sep 02, 2011, at 17:06, Daniel Stegmueller wrote:
Same for me. Of course I can run the service menu item manually, but that kind of defeats the purpose...
Daniel
On 2 Sep 2011, at 19:11, Berend Hasselman wrote:
On 02-09-2011, at 20:03, Quintis Venter wrote:
Mine works after activating it via the Services menu the first time, after which the shortcut works fine.
Activating what in the Services menu? I have activated Look Up in Dictionary and assigned a keyboard shortcut. That works after selecting a word and opens the Dictionary. But Command Control D still acts strangely.
Berend
Interestingly, when a word is selected by double clicking, the lookup works as expected. When the keyboard is used for text selection, however, the first word in the document is used.
—Quintis
On Sep 2, 2011, at 19:57, Berend Hasselman bhh@xs4all.nl wrote:
On 02-09-2011, at 19:54, Berend Hasselman wrote:
On 02-09-2011, at 19:47, Daniel Stegmueller wrote:
> Dear all, > > when using the inline dictionary function (ctrl-cmd-D) the corresponding window appears but does not disappear. When trying to close TM it crashes. > > Can anyone replicate this? I'm on Lion 10.7.1 on TM 1631.
Yes almost. See my post dated 24th August. I have experienced crashes but also disappearing windows with no crashes. When I got the window back the popover was still there and unremovable.
For educational purposes you could also try and see what happens in a clean guest user account. TextMate and the popover behaved as expected with no issues.
And I have not been able to resolve the problem.
Berend
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On 3 Sep 2011, at 00:25, Daniel Stegmueller wrote:
I think picking up the word 'under' the mouse is default behavior (in SL as well).
Yes, this has always been the case.
I just tried it as a new user - works flawlessly. I then removed the whole ~/Library/App support/textmate folder - still crashes....
Does it produce a crash log? If so, it might help pinpoint the issue.
I think picking up the word 'under' the mouse is default behavior (in SL as well).
I just tried it as a new user - works flawlessly. I then removed the whole ~/Library/App support/textmate folder - still crashes....
D
On 2 Sep 2011, at 22:55, DZ-Jay wrote:
I'd like to add that I just noticed that the behaviour or picking up the word under the mouse seems to be global in Lion. I hadn't noticed before, but it works the same in Mail and other applications.
In other words, CTRL+CMD+D in TextMate running on Lion seems to work correctly, at least in my installation.
dZ.
On Sep 02, 2011, at 17:48, DZ-Jay wrote:
In mine, it works "normally" except for the fact that it *always* picks up the word on which the mouse is resting. In other words, it ignores the highlighted word.
I guess that's why Quintis noticed the quirk that it only picked up the selection when the word is double-clicked: he perhaps left the mouse on top of it after doing so.
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Alan, I just send it to tm-bugs@macromates....
cheers, Daniel
On 3 Sep 2011, at 20:39, Allan Odgaard wrote:
On 3 Sep 2011, at 00:25, Daniel Stegmueller wrote:
I think picking up the word 'under' the mouse is default behavior (in SL as well).
Yes, this has always been the case.
I just tried it as a new user - works flawlessly. I then removed the whole ~/Library/App support/textmate folder - still crashes....
Does it produce a crash log? If so, it might help pinpoint the issue.
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On 3 Sep 2011, at 23:14, Daniel Stegmueller wrote:
Alan, I just send it to tm-bugs@macromates....
All it shows is that ‘invalidateCursorRectsForView:’ is sent to a presumed disposed object. This is a window method, so could be either the dictionary window or the main window.
If it isn’t clear, the dictionary functionality is Apple’s and it is not TextMate which calls it up or ask it to go away etc. hence why stuff in ~/Library/Application Support/TextMate is unlikely to affect the issue you are having.
Try look in Console for potential exceptions thrown or other useful info.
On 4 Sep 2011, at 07:07, Allan Odgaard wrote:
On 3 Sep 2011, at 23:14, Daniel Stegmueller wrote:
Alan, I just send it to tm-bugs@macromates....
All it shows is that ‘invalidateCursorRectsForView:’ is sent to a presumed disposed object. This is a window method, so could be either the dictionary window or the main window.
If it isn’t clear, the dictionary functionality is Apple’s and it is not TextMate which calls it up or ask it to go away etc. hence why stuff in ~/Library/Application Support/TextMate is unlikely to affect the issue you are having.
Fair enough. But it does not happen with ANY other editor I tried. Only with Textmate.
Try look in Console for potential exceptions thrown or other useful info.
Unfortunately it only shows that TM dies with a segmentation fault 11.
Daniel
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On 04-09-2011, at 12:03, Daniel Stegmueller wrote:
On 4 Sep 2011, at 07:07, Allan Odgaard wrote:
On 3 Sep 2011, at 23:14, Daniel Stegmueller wrote:
Alan, I just send it to tm-bugs@macromates....
All it shows is that ‘invalidateCursorRectsForView:’ is sent to a presumed disposed object. This is a window method, so could be either the dictionary window or the main window.
If it isn’t clear, the dictionary functionality is Apple’s and it is not TextMate which calls it up or ask it to go away etc. hence why stuff in ~/Library/Application Support/TextMate is unlikely to affect the issue you are having.
Fair enough. But it does not happen with ANY other editor I tried. Only with Textmate.
It also happens with TextWrangler. And TeXShop 2.43. (It doesn't happen with TeXShop 3.0.. which is Lion only).
Neither TextMate, TextWrangler nor TeXShop 2.43 always crash. I have also encountered other weird behaviour. As I mentioned in my reply to your first post in this thread.
It's all most strange.
Berend
Bernd,
I tried Textwrangler and it was sketchy but did not crash (Texshop works fine here too). This is really becoming curious. Seems like Apple did their usual changes under tho hood which brakes old code...
Daniel
On 4 Sep 2011, at 11:13, Berend Hasselman wrote:
On 04-09-2011, at 12:03, Daniel Stegmueller wrote:
On 4 Sep 2011, at 07:07, Allan Odgaard wrote:
On 3 Sep 2011, at 23:14, Daniel Stegmueller wrote:
Alan, I just send it to tm-bugs@macromates....
All it shows is that ‘invalidateCursorRectsForView:’ is sent to a presumed disposed object. This is a window method, so could be either the dictionary window or the main window.
If it isn’t clear, the dictionary functionality is Apple’s and it is not TextMate which calls it up or ask it to go away etc. hence why stuff in ~/Library/Application Support/TextMate is unlikely to affect the issue you are having.
Fair enough. But it does not happen with ANY other editor I tried. Only with Textmate.
It also happens with TextWrangler. And TeXShop 2.43. (It doesn't happen with TeXShop 3.0.. which is Lion only).
Neither TextMate, TextWrangler nor TeXShop 2.43 always crash. I have also encountered other weird behaviour. As I mentioned in my reply to your first post in this thread.
It's all most strange.
Berend
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On 04-09-2011, at 12:45, Daniel Stegmueller wrote:
Bernd,
I tried Textwrangler and it was sketchy but did not crash (Texshop works fine here too). This is really becoming curious. Seems like Apple did their usual changes under tho hood which brakes old code...
It is inded most strange. I have had crashes but not that often. Just weird behaviour with TextMate, TextWrangler and TeXShop 2.43 windows "disappearing". On getting the windows back, the dictionary popover refuses to disappear. In TextWrangler the toolbar will also sometimes be empty. If it now happens to me, I get the window back and immediately save, quit and reopen the application.
In a clean user account all these editors behave and none of the funny stuff happens. I have removed login items, preferences, my keybindings from my account to no avail.
I have been advised by the reseller where I bought my Air to contact AppleCare to see if they can help. I'm still thinking about it.
Berend
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