Hi all,
I am a CSS, HTML, occasional PHP/Javascript developer new to Textmate and have been hunting around for a good HTML bundle. I may be looking in the wrong places, but basically, I would love to find something that gives a few of the old features from Homesite, if that is actually possible. I would love to find some kind of bundle with the following:
- Code colouring similar to that of Homesite and Dreamweaver.
- Auto tag completion similar to Homesite and Dreamweaver, so when you type the ending ">" of a div tag for example, it writes out the closing tag. This would be instead, or in addition to, the feature of hitting CTRL + < to close the tag.
- Some kind of HTML, CSS validation, similar to the way Homesite used to do it. Can you include validation in a bundle?
Tell me if I'm dreaming! Either way, it would be great if someone could point me in the right direction for finding good HTML bundles. Googling doesn't seem to get the results I want.
Cheers for any help.
On Jul 31, 2007, at 10:01 AM, Paul Collins wrote:
Hi all,
I am a CSS, HTML, occasional PHP/Javascript developer new to Textmate and have been hunting around for a good HTML bundle. I may be looking in the wrong places, but basically, I would love to find something that gives a few of the old features from Homesite, if that is actually possible. I would love to find some kind of bundle with the following:
Code colouring similar to that of Homesite and Dreamweaver.
Auto tag completion similar to Homesite and Dreamweaver, so when
you type the ending ">" of a div tag for example, it writes out the closing tag. This would be instead, or in addition to, the feature of hitting CTRL + < to close the tag.
- Some kind of HTML, CSS validation, similar to the way Homesite used
to do it. Can you include validation in a bundle?
Tell me if I'm dreaming! Either way, it would be great if someone could point me in the right direction for finding good HTML bundles. Googling doesn't seem to get the results I want.
Cheers for any help.
I've never used Homesite, but I have used Dreamweaver after they bought and integrated most of it.
The HTML and CSS bundles include validation. ⌃⇧V There is no tag completion like homesite. I've been tinkering with the idea of writing some. I was actually thinking of using a similar method. Nothing useful exists on that front yet :(
You can use ⌘⌥. to close the currently open tag. You could make a copy of the "Insert Close Tag" command in the HTML bundle and put it in your personal bundle. then change the keystroke to whatever you want.
There are tons of code coloring themes. Most of them look OK with HTML CSS & Javascript. I highly recommend Brilliance Black ;) More themes: http://macromates.com/wiki/Themes/UserSubmittedThemes
If you know of any other specific features that you'd like, go ahead and request them or add them and share. Do you think you'd really use html code completion like in Dreamweaver?
thomas Aylott — subtleGradient — CrazyEgg — sixteenColors
Thanks for your reply and help subtlegradient...
In answer to your q's:
Do you think you'd really use html code completion like in Dreamweaver?
Yes, absolutely. If it were sophisticated enough to know what type of tag you are closing. So for instance, if it were an input tag for example, you don't want an extra closing tag, just /> at the end. I guess that could be the rule, if you close it already using />, then don't add a closing tag. Unfortunately, the bundle syntax is a bit above me right now for figuring it out!
I have done what you said though and changed the shortcut for adding an open/close tag to SHIFT + >. This works well actually, but it must interfere with another shortcut, as the ends of the tags are highlighted and I can't seem to get rid of it. Is there a way to find out if your shortcut is conflicting with another command?
There are tons of code coloring themes. Most of them look OK with HTML
There are some good ones there, I am still a bit shy of using the black background though, so trying to find one to match the way Homesite/DW did it with the white background. I have tried to create my own, but can't understand how to make specific colouring for an individual tag in the "Code Coloring Elements". Do you know how I would specifically target every anchor tag ( On Jul 31, 2007, at 10:01 AM, Paul Collins wrote:
Hi all,
I am a CSS, HTML, occasional PHP/Javascript developer new to Textmate and have been hunting around for a good HTML bundle. I may be looking in the wrong places, but basically, I would love to find something that gives a few of the old features from Homesite, if that is actually possible. I would love to find some kind of bundle with the following:
Code colouring similar to that of Homesite and Dreamweaver.
Auto tag completion similar to Homesite and Dreamweaver, so when
you type the ending ">" of a div tag for example, it writes out the closing tag. This would be instead, or in addition to, the feature of hitting CTRL + < to close the tag.
- Some kind of HTML, CSS validation, similar to the way Homesite used
to do it. Can you include validation in a bundle?
Tell me if I'm dreaming! Either way, it would be great if someone could point me in the right direction for finding good HTML bundles. Googling doesn't seem to get the results I want.
Cheers for any help.
I've never used Homesite, but I have used Dreamweaver after they bought and integrated most of it.
The HTML and CSS bundles include validation. ⌃⇧V There is no tag completion like homesite. I've been tinkering with the idea of writing some. I was actually thinking of using a similar method. Nothing useful exists on that front yet :(
You can use ⌘⌥. to close the currently open tag. You could make a copy of the "Insert Close Tag" command in the HTML bundle and put it in your personal bundle. then change the keystroke to whatever you want.
There are tons of code coloring themes. Most of them look OK with HTML CSS & Javascript. I highly recommend Brilliance Black ;) More themes: http://macromates.com/wiki/Themes/UserSubmittedThemes
If you know of any other specific features that you'd like, go ahead and request them or add them and share. Do you think you'd really use html code completion like in Dreamweaver?
thomas Aylott — subtleGradient — CrazyEgg — sixteenColors
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On Jul 31, 2007, at 1:37 PM, desmondo wrote:
Thanks for your reply and help subtlegradient...
In answer to your q's:
Do you think you'd really use html code completion like in Dreamweaver?
Yes, absolutely. If it were sophisticated enough to know what type of tag you are closing. So for instance, if it were an input tag for example, you don't want an extra closing tag, just /> at the end. I guess that could be the rule, if you close it already using />, then don't add a closing tag. Unfortunately, the bundle syntax is a bit above me right now for figuring it out!
I have done what you said though and changed the shortcut for adding an open/close tag to SHIFT + >. This works well actually, but it must interfere with another shortcut, as the ends of the tags are highlighted and I can't seem to get rid of it. Is there a way to find out if your shortcut is conflicting with another command?
Your best bet is to just use the keybindings asis. Any time you change them it become a pain to manage everything.
There are tons of code coloring themes. Most of them look OK with HTML
There are some good ones there, I am still a bit shy of using the black background though, so trying to find one to match the way Homesite/ DW did it with the white background. I have tried to create my own, but can't understand how to make specific colouring for an individual tag in the "Code Coloring Elements". Do you know how I would specifically target every anchor tag
Currently you can't actually target a specific type of html tag in the themes. I recommend you read the whole manual before fiddling with it. It actually helps
thomas Aylott — subtleGradient — CrazyEgg — sixteenColors
Thanks for your reply again.
That's a shame you can't target a specific HTML tag, I have tried to go through the manual as much as possible, but it does get confusing at times.
Will leave it at that and try to stick with some already established themes and bundles.
Cheers
On 31/07/07, Thomas Aylott (subtleGradient) oblivious@subtlegradient.com wrote:
On Jul 31, 2007, at 1:37 PM, desmondo wrote:
Thanks for your reply and help subtlegradient...
In answer to your q's:
Do you think you'd really use html code completion like in Dreamweaver?
Yes, absolutely. If it were sophisticated enough to know what type of tag you are closing. So for instance, if it were an input tag for example, you don't want an extra closing tag, just /> at the end. I guess that could be the rule, if you close it already using />, then don't add a closing tag. Unfortunately, the bundle syntax is a bit above me right now for figuring it out!
I have done what you said though and changed the shortcut for adding an open/close tag to SHIFT + >. This works well actually, but it must interfere with another shortcut, as the ends of the tags are highlighted and I can't seem to get rid of it. Is there a way to find out if your shortcut is conflicting with another command?
Your best bet is to just use the keybindings asis. Any time you change them it become a pain to manage everything.
There are tons of code coloring themes. Most of them look OK with HTML
There are some good ones there, I am still a bit shy of using the black background though, so trying to find one to match the way Homesite/ DW did it with the white background. I have tried to create my own, but can't understand how to make specific colouring for an individual tag in the "Code Coloring Elements". Do you know how I would specifically target every anchor tag
Currently you can't actually target a specific type of html tag in the themes. I recommend you read the whole manual before fiddling with it. It actually helps
thomas Aylott — subtleGradient — CrazyEgg — sixteenColors
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On 31. Jul 2007, at 16:01, Paul Collins wrote:
I am a CSS, HTML, occasional PHP/Javascript developer new to Textmate and have been hunting around for a good HTML bundle [...]
Be sure to check out the HTML screencast (and possibly some of the others as well):
http://macromates.com/blog/2006/html-screencast-inserting-tags/
Thanks Allan,
I did manage to track that down, that was the reason I thought I should jump over to Textmate in the first place. I think there are a lot of great features here that haven't been attempted anywhere else.
I will be even happier if it becomes a bit more HTML friendly in the future, such as the addition of being able to target specific tags in your coloring theme and a bit more user friendly for creating snippets and commands. The search and replace could do with a bit more advancement too.
A great piece of software though and I think I will stick with it!
Cheers for your help.
On 31/07/07, Allan Odgaard throw-away-1@macromates.com wrote:
On 31. Jul 2007, at 16:01, Paul Collins wrote:
I am a CSS, HTML, occasional PHP/Javascript developer new to Textmate and have been hunting around for a good HTML bundle [...]
Be sure to check out the HTML screencast (and possibly some of the others as well):
http://macromates.com/blog/2006/html-screencast-inserting-tags/
For new threads USE THIS: textmate@lists.macromates.com (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't) http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
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