hi there,
i have been creating projects left and right lately and realised, that 'untitled' is not the best default name (i.e. *never* right) as opposed to say the name of the toplevel folder that the project consists of (i.e. *sometimes* right)
just my $0.02,
tom -- Tom Lazar http://tomster.org
On 18/07/2005, at 11.11, Tom Lazar wrote:
i have been creating projects left and right lately and realised, that 'untitled' is not the best default name (i.e. *never* right) as opposed to say the name of the toplevel folder that the project consists of (i.e. *sometimes* right)
Is this the project name (in the titlebar + Windows menu), or the name suggested when you save the project?
If you create the project by dragging files or a folder to TM, it will use the name of the parent folder (or folder dragged). Though if you save it, it still shows “untitled”, but I don't think many save scratch projects (and would like to get rid of tmproj files anyway ;) )!?!
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:48:37 +0200, Allan Odgaard wrote:
I don't think many save scratch projects (and would like to get rid of tmproj files anyway ;) )!?!
FWIW, I find them completely invaluable, as the screenshot at:
http://guineapig.article7.co.uk/tmp/textmate.jpg
...will testify!
Cheers, Andrew.
Off topic but here we go:
Spotlight smart folders looking for .tmproj files are mightily useful.
FWIW, I find them completely invaluable, as the screenshot at:
http://guineapig.article7.co.uk/tmp/textmate.jpg...will testify!
On Jul 20, 2005, at 12:22 AM, Andrew Green wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:48:37 +0200, Allan Odgaard wrote:
FWIW, I find them completely invaluable, as the screenshot at:
http://guineapig.article7.co.uk/tmp/textmate.jpg...will testify!
ACK, me too! Instead of Tobias' (great) idea with the smart folder I simply bump their scoring in Quicksilver to access them quickly.
I particularily like, that the .tmproj even saves each(!) document's selection which is great for repeatively copying and pasting.
@allan: yes, I mean the 'untitled' default filename that one gets when saving what you refer to as 'scratch' projects (the only ones I use)
just my $0.02
best regards,
Tom
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On 20/07/2005, at 14.10, Tom Lazar wrote:
FWIW, I find them completely invaluable, as the screenshot at:
ACK, me too! Instead of Tobias' (great) idea with the smart folder I simply bump their scoring in Quicksilver to access them quickly.
I particularily like, that the .tmproj even saves each(!) document's selection which is great for repeatively copying and pasting.
I'm moving to filesystem metadata for this instead -- and I did manage to make a workaround for the AFP related kernel panic with setxattr, so this _is_ the future :) One concern is that Panther doesn't have setxattr and friends, but I do plan to drop Panther support long term (just haven't figured out for how long I need to support it, I'm thinking half a year or so, but I'll make the software update report OS version to get a feel for the migration rate among users before I make any decisions).
As for the actual project files… maybe they are unavoidable, my plan however is to make them as redunant as possible, so that one could work exclusively with scratch projects (i.e. just opening folders in TM) and still get the benefits of real projects (i.e. all state preserved accross sessions etc.).
@allan: yes, I mean the 'untitled' default filename that one gets when saving what you refer to as 'scratch' projects (the only ones I use)
Okay, I've changed that for 1.1b15.
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On Jul 21, 2005, at 1:03 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote:
On 20/07/2005, at 14.10, Tom Lazar wrote:
I particularily like, that the .tmproj even saves each(!) document's selection which is great for repeatively copying and pasting.
I'm moving to filesystem metadata for this instead
duh! of course! *smacks forehead* I'm beginning to understand what all this metadata will bring us ;-)
-- and I did manage to make a workaround for the AFP related kernel panic with setxattr, so this _is_ the future :)
cool!
As for the actual project files… maybe they are unavoidable, my plan however is to make them as redunant as possible, so that one could work exclusively with scratch projects (i.e. just opening folders in TM) and still get the benefits of real projects (i.e. all state preserved accross sessions etc.).
actually, there's only three 'killer features' that I use project files for:
a) state preservation (seems to be taken care of with metadata) b) being able to create template based new files c) being able to open them more quickly via Quicksilver (because with a folder I need to use the 'open with...' command and with the project files just the default 'open'
if you could cram all that into ordinary folders that would be great: It's not that I actually *want* project files - I just want the conveniences they bring ;)
@allan: yes, I mean the 'untitled' default filename that one gets when saving what you refer to as 'scratch' projects (the only ones I use)
Okay, I've changed that for 1.1b15.
thanks!
best regards,
tom
On Jul 21, 2005, at 1:03 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote:
@allan: yes, I mean the 'untitled' default filename that one gets when saving what you refer to as 'scratch' projects (the only ones I use)
Okay, I've changed that for 1.1b15.
okay, call me greedy ;-) but i just got another idea...
could we have ctrl-command-s (save project) not bring up a dialogue (as it does now) but rather simpy create a project file with the name of the enclosing folder directly inside of that folder? if you wanted to use another name/location you'd have to use 'save as...'
I know that in this form my suggestion is actually *not* a good idea (I'm sure it violates several apple guidelines and some articles of the geneva convention!) but all the other key-shortcuts involving command-s are already taken...
at any rate, one-keystroke-no-fuss-projectfile-creation would be nice ;-)
best regards,
tom -- Tom Lazar http://tomster.org
On Jul 22, 2005, at 9:08 AM, Tom Lazar wrote:
okay, call me greedy ;-) but i just got another idea...
forget it! after playing with b15 i realized that all this would actually save would be *one* keystroke (namely 'enter' to accept the default name and location of the 'save project' command)
i'm happy as it is ;-)
best regards,
tom -- Tom Lazar http://tomster.org
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