Hi there, why you not port this very cool and amazing tool to linux?!?! I think many Linux-User glad to have a so power full tool because is much easier to work with than with vi or emacs...
why you not port this very cool and amazing tool to linux?!?! I think many Linux-User glad to have a so power full tool because is much easier to work with than with vi or emacs...
i think the chances that there will be a native linux-version of textmate are very low, because its very hard to port a cocoa-app to something without cocoa without writing nearly everything new. i dont know how good emulators work atm but maybe http://www.softpear.org/ would be a solution.
if there would be a linux version i also would like it very much because i also would have a usage for this. so feel free to write textmate again in gtk, make it opensource and send me a link. :D
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I am not an expert on Cocoa porting, but here is some more detail:
TM is written in Cocoa, and Cocoa is an OpenStep framework, which happens to have a "sister" framework on linux: GNUStep. Unfortunately, the two frameworks are becoming rather different, while the core classes are very much the same and follow the same spec, apple has extended the OpenStep framework to its own needs (and to the needs of the developers).
Apart from that Apple introduced Bindings in Panther, which, AFAIK are unavailable in GNUStep. Also, the new NextStep Interface Builder files are probably completely incompatible with the GNUStep format with the introduction of Xcode (if you save in 10.2 NIB format).
A port from Cocoa to GNUStep will be very tough. The reverse is possible and much more easy.
And just to top it off, GNUStep is still very much in development, but they are making progress (a rather dedicated dev group, in my opinion).
Just my 3c.
Nick
On Jan 24, 2005, at 9:35 AM, bombart@gmx.net wrote:
Hi there, why you not port this very cool and amazing tool to linux?!?! I think many Linux-User glad to have a so power full tool because is much easier to work with than with vi or emacs...
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GNUstep sounds intressting to me... is Textmate open source?? I would give it a try on my linuxbox
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I am not an expert on Cocoa porting, but here is some more detail:
TM is written in Cocoa, and Cocoa is an OpenStep framework, which happens to have a "sister" framework on linux: GNUStep. Unfortunately, the two frameworks are becoming rather different, while the core classes are very much the same and follow the same spec, apple has extended the OpenStep framework to its own needs (and to the needs of the developers).
Apart from that Apple introduced Bindings in Panther, which, AFAIK are unavailable in GNUStep. Also, the new NextStep Interface Builder files are probably completely incompatible with the GNUStep format with the introduction of Xcode (if you save in 10.2 NIB format).
A port from Cocoa to GNUStep will be very tough. The reverse is possible and much more easy.
And just to top it off, GNUStep is still very much in development, but they are making progress (a rather dedicated dev group, in my opinion).
Just my 3c.
Nick
On Jan 24, 2005, at 9:35 AM, bombart@gmx.net wrote:
Hi there, why you not port this very cool and amazing tool to linux?!?! I think many Linux-User glad to have a so power full tool because is much easier to work with than with vi or emacs...
-- Sparen beginnt mit GMX DSL: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl ______________________________________________________________________ For new threads USE THIS: textmate@lists.macromates.com (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't) http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
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On Jan 25, 2005, at 12:22, bombart@gmx.net wrote:
GNUstep sounds intressting to me... is Textmate open source?? I would give it a try on my linuxbox
Currently not, no. However, you won't be able to make it work with GNUStep, since TM does use bindings a lot.
And personally I have enough work to do on the Mac version for the next year, so a port is not something I can spend time on -- not to mention that I do not use Linux for other than server-stuff.
But thanks for the interest!
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