Alright already, geeze people. I was not the one who escalated the issue to start with. I asked for a feature, in a way that offended everyone obviously. I don't work for another company, I don't make editors. Obviously strongly suggesting and begging for a feature, gets everyone's panties in a knot. So, I will shutup and leave now. Thanks for clearing up the CVS support issue for me.
Best Regards,
Court Kizer
On Jun 27, 2006, at 8:40 AM, David Clark wrote:
Curt,
Would you PLEASE shut the hell up already? You have made your point (twice) and you you in the minority.
TM is clearly not for you -- oh well. Please move on, the rest of us are happy
On 6/27/06, Court K. lists@courtkizer.com wrote:
Fred:
It's not about a stupid little $500 to code my feature in. How much money would it cost me to buy textmate, as well as the programming team for one year? $500,000? More? How much should my feature cost? Because I'm just about willing to pay any price. I've already posted 3 job positions in san francisco for x-code developers to either write a bundle (i don't think it would allow me to have a full browser), or build me an editor that would.
TextMate makes bold claims everywhere on the front page about being "the missing editor for the 21st century", why is it so wrong for me to ask it to live up to those claims in a similar bold fashion. It's not like I'm requesting syntax highlighting for some obscure language written 10 years ago.
-Court
On Jun 27, 2006, at 7:22 AM, Fred B. wrote:
On 27 Jun 2006, at 15:41, Jeffrey Robert Spies wrote: I'm really quite disappointed in how the list has responded to Court K.'s feature request. He explained what he was looking for and why it would be valuable, and even offered a monetary bonus for someone to work on it (plus assistance with UI design, if I remember correctly). If you don't want to help out w/ CVS support, why is it necessary to bash CVS or this guy for doing what everyone else does when they would like to see a feature added to TextMate? It just doesn't seem very constructive, but maybe I'm confused as to what this list is for other than praising Allan and evidently promoting Subversion.
Maybe it has something to do with how he requested it? Just maybe. ;)
With affirmation like "Textmate as an editor is nothing without CVS support", "The one and only thing the developers should focus on right now is. CONNECTIVITY", "not that crappy bundle that's going around", etc., I don't think it's a good way to introduce yourself and make a feature request. Everyone and is mom has THE absolute missing feature that is so easy to implement. The assumption that everyone has the same request than you won't help because it's not true, most answers talking about svn where just pointing that.
Allan is the one who decide what comes next and he already wrote that connectivity improvements are on the todo. Thinking he will change his plans or suddenly code faster to earn a whooping $500 is a bit immature IMHO.
I'd recommend searching the archives first, then, as Jonathan pointed, reading Brent Simmons' post[1], which, BTW, is not Jonathan posting about how he hates feature requests, but a post of the NetNewsWire's dev. explaining how to make feature requests that might have a chance to succeed.
This list is friendly, keep it that way.
[1]http://inessential.com/?comments=1&postid=3291
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