TextMate September 2006

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by Darryl Morrell

I recently acquired TextMate 1.5.3, and am overall very pleased with it. However, I am running OS X 10.3.9, and several bundles do not work correctly. In particular, several commands in the Latex and TODO bundles do not work. Some of the problems were fixed by installing Ruby 1.8 from Fink, but many others remain. Any help would be appreciated. Darryl Morrell

18 years, 4 months

Colorize the name of the loops in Fortran

by guerom00

Hi all, I would like to colorize the name of the do and if loops in Fortran... Those loops looks like this : the_name:do i=1,10 some code here … enddo the_name and similar for the if loops. I tried to give a scope to those loop names but with my poor knowledge of RegExp, I cannot achieve something satisfactory... Any help is much appreciated :) Thanks in advance.

18 years, 4 months

Avoiding hidden menu items and buttons

by Michael Henry

Hi, As I've been using TextMate, I've noticed that some of the features are, in my opinion, unnecessarily hard to discover. Certain menu items are hidden from the user unless the user presses the option modifier key while holding the menu open. Pressing option causes one of the existing menu items to change meaning. For example, the Edit menu of TextMate has a "Paste Previous" command that converts to "Paste Next" when option is pressed. The Text menu has the command "Execute Line Inserting Result" that converts to "Execute Line and Replace With Result" when option is pressed. This makes it harder to discover the available commands in TextMate because the user must know to press option in order to see these hidden menu items. As a recent Mac switcher, it was a couple of months before I realized OS X menus had this hidden capability. Besides making features harder to discover, hidden menus are harder to select with only the mouse because the user must press "option" to have the items available for clicking. Also, IIRC, there is additional difficulty assigning keyboard shortcuts to these menu items (I don't remember the details, but I thought there was something about this on the TextMate mailing list). On a related note, certain buttons on dialog boxes are hidden in a similar way (for instance, the Find dialog's "Replace" button converts to "Replace in Selection" when option is pressed). There are no visible indications that the buttons are dual-purpose; indeed, the user may never know they are there unless he stumbles over them (as I did) by accidentally pressing option while the dialog box is open. Would it be possible to avoid using hidden menus and buttons in TextMate? Other than trying to keep the menu length a little shorter or the dialog box a bit smaller, I've not come up with a benefit to hiding these items from the user, and in my opinion there are several benefits to making them visible all the time. Thanks for your consideration, Michael Henry

18 years, 4 months

Latex + preview question

by Christopher Brewster

> On Sep 15, 2006, at 3:19 PM, Christopher Brewster wrote: > >> When I press apple button+R to typeset and view, >> I get transferred to the Preview window but it does not show me >> the current pdf >> only the previous one. >> Is there someway to correct this so that it refreshes the pdf it >> is displaying? >> > > Do you mean that it will not refresh the pdf after changes have > happened to it and you have recompiled, or that if you compile a > completely different file? If it is the former, then it is > Preview.app's fault, and the only solutions I can think of would > involve using AppleScript and slightly hacking Preview.app to allow > AppleScript to drive it. The former - it does not refresh the pdf after a recompile. I do not know how to write AppleScript or hack Preview.app :( > I would suggest using a different previewer, and in particular > TeXniscope. Or you could use the TeXShop previewer, though that > does not do pdfsync with TextMate (to my knowledge). Yes I have tried TeXniscope several times. 2 problems: - there is no search facility and this is important often to find unresolved bibliography entries etc. - it crashes frequently This is why I have repeated returned to Preview.app. I have not tried the TeXShop previewer. Is anyone using Adobe Reader? Would that work better? Christopher

18 years, 4 months

Regarding the LaTeX bundle

by Max Lein

First of all, one noob question: how do I make sure my mail is recognized as a reply to an existing post in the mailing list? I have tried clicking in the e-mail address on the mailing list page which automatically generates an e-mail with the correct header … but usually it isn't recognized as a reply to existing posts :-/ Thanks ;-) > > (i) I can provide you with a list of `official' LaTeX commands if needed. > > > > Obviously, something similar should be implemented in math mode as > > well (start with dark red which changes to red once a command is > > recognized). > > allan: (i) I prefer that as well — if we can get a list, that’d be > great! > > me: I agree too. Max (and anyone else as well), if you provide us > with the commands, for within math and out of math, then we'll add > them in. Ok, I will compile a list over the course of the week. Basically, I will start by copying the standard commands from the various handbooks. Please document how to add your own commands to that list! (E. g. I have created commands like \norm, \scpro (scalar product), \ket, \bra, \C, \R, etc.) > allan: (ii) this is because $ is a smart-typing pair, and it finds > that there is a “starting” $ outside the screen — not sure how > to best address that (probably we want to keep it a smart typing pair) Definitely, definitely, definitely keep smart-pairing $s, it was my #1 syntax error with TeXShop and very tedious sometimes to find the erroneous line of code. > > (iii) Footnotes and marginpars should be marked within the text; > > perhaps the footnote's/marginpar's text could even be folded (not > > sure if automatic foldmark recognition works on a bundle level). > > allan: (iii) marking: yes, folding: we can’t do w/o having the > braces align > > me: The text in the footnote gets a scope of meta.footnote.latex > So if you add that scope to your coloring theme and add some color to > it, you'll get highlighted footnotes. Not immediately possible for > marginpars, but we are thinking of matching those as well and giving > them some scope extending both footnotes and marginpars, so that you > could color both of them at the same time. Yes, it is immediately possible. I've just added marginpar to the footnote environment (so its scope is now both footnotes and marginpars alike), took about 10 seconds :-) I already figured folding would be a more intricate matter. > Update: marginpars are now matched with scope > meta.paragraph.marginpar.latex, so you can color them as you like. > > > (iv) Use input instead of include when dragging a .tex document > > into another: afaik include is deprecated and input is preferred > > instead. You cannot `include' some bundles for instance (diagxy > > comes to mind), you have to use input instead. > > allan: (iv) probably then we should even markup include as > invalid.deprecated > > me: I don't think \include is deprecated. I use \include for > different chapter of a book etc, and it does a number of special > things like clear all the floats, start on a new page, generate > separate aux files etc. input also creates separate aux files. I just ran into some problems with include and have used input ever since. Page breaks are not a concern since I usually have separate files for each chapter -- the chapter command takes care of the page break. > Of course, you can easily change this in your own copy, by opening > the bundle editor and finding the appropriate drag command. All you > have to do is change the \\\\include that appears there to \\\\input. Done. > > (v) Forget about the deprecated math environments `\[ … \]' and `\ > > ( … \)', just remove them from your bundle. Guidelines by relevant > > journals suggest to use specific environments anyway (align for > > instance). > > allan: (v) I’m all for removing stuff, especially when deprecated ;) > > me: I would need some stronger evidence that it is deprecated. As far > as I understand, the alternative to  would be $ $, and I don't > see what advantages that has except that it is much harder to parse > the file looking for math in it, and if you miss one of the $ you > might not find out until much much later. > > As for \[, \], I again don't think they are deprecated, but I would > love to be proven wrong. The only alternative I see is \begin > {equation*}, which requires the amsmath package. I might possibly > agree with you that in the context of writing math papers for > submission to journals, one might want to avoid \[, \], (though still > I would need to see some strong evidence for that), but I don't see > why I shouldn't be using it in the notes for my students for > instance. Replacing them all by \begin{equation*} is a single search > and replace anyway. (Note to self: Actually, having a command that > toggles the various math environments might not be a bad idea at all.) I usually use align and align*. I have never personally used \[ … \] and I have seen only one person use it, and that person still writes his (brilliant) papers in plain TeX. It doesn't really bother me if you keep it, but I just thought that we could very well eliminate everything which is superfluous in a way. > Do you have references to these guidelines of these journals > (including non-math/physics journals)? One of the guidelines I use is the revtex guidelines which is used for a wide number of journals, including Phys. Rev. A-E and Phys. Rev. Lett. > > (vi) Inline formulas should have a grayish background so it's > > easier to see where formulas begin and where they end. (This one is > > also important to me.) > > allan: (vi) that’d be a theme-thing, as long as the grammar marks > them up > > me: Do you want the background for inline formulas to be different > than the one for multiline formulas? Because as things are already, > you can target the scope math.tex in your theme, and that would color > all math however you tell it to. Yes, I want it to be different. I add a commented line above and below the align environment, i. e. % \begin{align} formulas \end{align} % So I don't need any background. In either case, it is desirable to have different settings for inline formulas and displayed equations. > > (vii) You already have tab triggers for section, subsection and > > subsubsection, so how come chapter is missing? > > allan: (vii) oversight (and we rarely need it) > > me: Basically, initially we were trying to keep the number of > snippets at a bare minimum because of the way they were showing up in > the menu, as a flat list. On top of that, most of those can instead > be accomplished via the “Insert Command…” command, along with > customizing it through the LaTeX Configuration file, so the other > maintainers had a hard time even convincing me to keep the section > ones in. Now that we can create submenus, we've toyed with the idea > of adding more snippets, so any ideas on what other snippets to > include are welcome. I know I can add it. However that is something I definitely think is missing. \chapter is one of the most basic commands in TeX and I would strongly suggest to add it. > > (viii) A way to execute bibtex (and pdflatex twice to see whether > > all additional citations have been included). > > allan: (viii) latexmk.pl should do that — maybe we should make this > the default, not sure if that would bother anyone (maybe some > workflows would mean much more time typesetting) > > me: latexmk.pl will actually do a lot more for you. The Help file > should describe how to set it up. I'd personally prefer not to have > it as the default. It is however easy to set it in your system. I think I wasn't expressing myself clearly here: when you run bibtex via the LaTeX bundle, it does just that. However, I think it is a lot more useful if you actually pdflatex the document twice and display the document so you can check whether or not it worked. > > (ix) Closing environments: when I manually type \begin{environment} > > and then close the environment, the `\end{environment}' which is > > added is indented like the text within the environment. Hence, > > TextMate's code folding does not recognize the block. > > allan: (ix) http://macromates.com/ticket/show?ticket_id=B34CCC0C -- > the request might be granted, but use begin⇥ or ⌘{ until then > > me: just follow the workaround suggested in that ticket (and most > importantly, don't manually type \begin{environment}). No, I usually don't. But sometimes I need to break a displayed formula into two, I use that command. > > Now concerning the Help. The help is nicely structured, although I > > miss a nice webpage with the key features of your bundle. That > > would have helped me to use more of the functions included in your > > bundle. > > Hm, that was actually partly our intent with rewriting the help file > this way. To make it easy to find out how to do stuff. Looking at the > bundle is of course the best way to find out what commands are > available. How is the help lacking in showing you what the bundle can > do? > > > > (i) A glossary of TM_LATEX_BLABLA variables. That would be really > > helpful, especially for people who just want to check out what you > > can do with the LaTeX bundle. > > There are basically only five such variables, most of them having to > do with more particular workflow setups: > > TM_LATEX_VIEWER if you don't want to use the built in previewer > TM_LATEX_ERRLVL if you want some finer control on what errors > show up > TM_LATEX_COMPILER if you want to use latexmk.pl > TM_LATEX_OPTIONS for any options you might want to add to the > command line call to the compiler. > > and finally, TM_LATEX_MASTER, the only one of more frequent use, when > setting that a master document should be used for the compiling. That needs to be documented in the form of a howto. > > (ii) Overview over key functions (auto completion of citations, etc.). > > Isn't the explanation in section 5.2 of the manual adequate for that? > In general that's the purpose of the entire section 5. In what ways > is that failing? In the way that people like me don't read the help until section 5.2 to discover new features. I know I sometimes should, but it's just the way it is. In this way, I would suggest to add one section in the very beginning (section 1.2 or so) about basic features. If they are hidden in section 5.2, fewer people will actually use them -- which is a pity. I have given the help some more thought and I think that also one chapter about customizing the LaTeX bundle is missing. Somehow I haven't come across a good documentation on how to edit bundles, something like a HowTo is definitely missing. For me, the most helpful kind of documentation is one that explains by example (e. g. Samba by Example). So I would suggest to write HowTo sections on `Getting Started', `Big LaTeX Projects', `Customizing The LaTeX Bundle'. I would be willing to make additions of my own. Ok, that's all for now. Max

18 years, 4 months

How to match recursive blocks when begin goes over two lines

by Andreas Pardeike

Hi, I am slowly adapting to the language defs. Great. Now, I am having difficulties to specify recursive blocks for a language. So far, I got it working pretty good for things like ----------------- %function foo() { %{ %} %} ----------------- as I created a matcher for {%..%} that calls itself and thus the matcher for the function which for simplicity I state here as begin = '%function .* \{' end = '%}' will match the last %} and not the previous one. Cool. Now, how do I allow for this case: --------------- %function foo() { %{ %} %} --------------- I can't get it to work even though I know that the matcher only matches whole lines. The language I try to define is an obsolete old IBM mainframe macro language called Net.DATA (please, don't ask why). So a block starts either as '%keyword_and_more {' or as '% keyword_and_more\n{' and always ends in '%}'. Is it possible to define this? I assume that I need to define two rule sets to simulate the two states and then either start in state A or B and do the recursion within each set. Right? Andreas Pardeike PS: If you like, you can see my current definition: { scopeName = 'source.netdata'; fileTypes = ( '' ); foldingStartMarker = '%.*\{|%(?i:if)'; foldingStopMarker = '%\}|%(?i:endif)'; patterns = ( { include = '#embeddedstuff'; }, { name = 'source.netdata.comment'; match = '^%\{.*?%\}'; }, ); repository = { embeddedstuff = { patterns = ( { include = '#shtml'; }, { include = '#netdata'; }, ); }; netdata = { patterns = ( { name = 'keyword.control.netdata.conditional'; match = '%(?i:if|else|endif)'; }, { name = 'keyword.control.netdata.include'; match = '%(?i:include).*'; }, { name = 'keyword.control.shtml.include'; match = ''; }, { name = 'source.netdata.block'; begin = '(%\{(?i:macro)?)'; end = '(%\})'; captures = { 1 = { name = 'keyword.control.netdata'; }; }; patterns = ( { include = '#embeddedstuff'; } ); }, { name = 'source.netdata.function'; begin = '(%function\s*$([^)]*)$)\s+(\w+$.*$)\s*(\{)'; end = '(%\})'; captures = { 1 = { name = 'keyword.control.netdata'; }; 2 = { name = 'source.netdata.function.type'; }; 3 = { name = 'source.netdata.function.name'; }; }; patterns = ( { include = '#embeddedstuff'; } ); }, { name = 'source.netdata.block'; begin = '(%.*?)\s*$.*$\s*(\{)'; end = '(%\})'; captures = { 1 = { name = 'keyword.control.netdata'; }; 2 = { name = 'keyword.control.netdata'; }; }; patterns = ( { include = '#embeddedstuff'; } ); }, { name = 'source.netdata.block'; begin = '(%.*)\s?(\{)'; end = '(%\})'; captures = { 1 = { name = 'keyword.control.netdata'; }; 2 = { name = 'keyword.control.netdata'; }; }; patterns = ( { include = '#embeddedstuff'; } ); }, ); }; shtml = { name = 'source.netdata.embedded.shtml'; begin = '(?='; patterns = ( { name = 'keyword.control.shtml.include'; match = '(?i:include.*?=".*?")'; } ); }; }; }

18 years, 4 months

Templates Broken Again?

by Robert M. Ullrey

Is the ability to make templates broken again? I just tried to add another template and I cannot get any new ones to work. All existing templates, including the ones I made work, but any new ones will not load. I even tried copying an existing template and the copy will not load. Thanks Robert

18 years, 4 months

Latex + preview question

by Christopher Brewster

When I press apple button+R to typeset and view, I get transferred to the Preview window but it does not show me the current pdf only the previous one. Is there someway to correct this so that it refreshes the pdf it is displaying? Thanks, Christopher ***************************************************** Natural Language Processing Group, Department of Computer Science, University of Sheffield

18 years, 4 months

Blue screen?

by Bob Sidebotham

When doing multiple finds, the textmate window goes a light shade of blue, and then stays that way unless I search backwards. How do I turn this off, and what is it supposed to mean? I've looked in the manual, and don't see anything about this (not under Find). Thanks, Bob Sidebotham

18 years, 4 months

Missing "require" in ruby web preview

by Paul McCann

Hi, my glacial migration to ruby continues: I've been dipping into the TextMate book and noticed that ^H should bring up doc refs for ruby keywords. Unfortunately using the command (in build 1252) just threw up a tooltip complaining about "url_encode" being an undefined method. I think that the file web_preview.rb in TextMate.app/Contents/SharedSupport/Support/lib needs to have the following pasted in after "require erb" : include ERB::Util Well, that fixed the problem for me. Cheers, Paul

18 years, 4 months

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TextMate September 2006