[TxMt] How Long Must We Wait for CVS Support?

[Eric O'Brien]

I'm not a programmer, just using TextMate and Subversion to work on a  
couple of tiny web sites.  So I may well be missing some things here.

Is this sort of a discussion about where a "text editor" ends and an  
IDE begins?  That is, is it about to what extent should version or  
source control, or remote file transfer (etc.) be "built in" to a  
text editor?  When does the product cease being purely a text  
editor?  (Maybe TextMate has already crossed the line!)

I'm smoothly working on TextMate projects that are Working Copies  
checked out of a Subversion repository.  From within TextMate I can,  
with a keystroke. commit a file or files back to the repository or  
issue numerous other SVN commands.  If I knew enough about what I was  
seeing, I could modify the svn bundle if I wanted to.  Here, access  
to svn is *very* close at hand.  I don't see the benefit of expending  
energy to writing a "built-in" svn client when access to an  
*existing* client

When I want a visual svn client, I use svnX.  For me, that works fine  
(and saves me the trouble of trying to memorize commands I rarely use).

As to the comments "almost every file is edited online" and "Editing  
over the network" ... this type of description has been used before  
and I don't get it.  It's not possible (is it?) to edit or view a  
file unless it's accessible on the local filesystem.  If I check out  
a working copy from a remote repository a *copy* is made locally.   
Any edits I do are done locally.  When I commit my changes, those  
changes are *uploaded* back to the remote repository.  This is not  
"Editing over the network."

If I have a sftp session open with Interarchy or Transmit, select a  
file in the list and choose "Edit With TextMate," a file opens in  
TextMate.  But it is *not* the file that is on the server that has  
been opened (right?).  Instead, it's a temporary file that the ftp  
client (silently) creates.  When I edit and save, more magic happens  
and the local file is (again, silently) uploaded to the server and  
replaces the existing one.  It *appears* that I am "editing online"  
but technically that's not what's happening.

Or am I all mixed up?  ;)

eo

On Jun 25, 2006, at 10:42 PM, Court K. wrote:

> Yes, thanks this still doesn't solve any problems. Rather than  
> spending an hour posting on a blog about how you hate feature  
> requests, why not just implement the really good ones?. Especially  
> Really Good CVS, Subversion, SFTP, Editing over the networking  
> stuff. There is not one single good CVS client for mac, eclipse,  
> zend studio, all of them suck, yet textmate "is the missing editor  
> for the 21st century", Well in the 21st century almost every file  
> is edited online and checked into a versioning system. And of  
> course since the author wouldn't want to put it to a vote, (even  
> though every single person using TextMate) would want CVS support  
> built in... I guess we're just out of luck.
>
> I'm irritated that the only comments have been, about the actual  
> comment an not the feature I'm requesting, or others have  
> requested. If textmate really isn't interested in becoming the  
> missing editor for the 21st century, then I'm going to post, a  
> $20,000 bounty for several x-code developers to make me a near  
> duplicate of textmate with full cvs browser, subversion, browser,  
> sftp, and network connectivity and give it for free.
>
> You just can't build an editor these days, let alone one that's  
> "for the 21st century" and not have support for networks.
>