[TxMt] Re: Do I have to pay for the final TM 2 license key?

[Jason McC. Smith]

My bad.  I find the decision to clone Office instead of striking new ground
to be a disappointing one, and haven't had much luck with getting the tool
to work as advertised for even basic functionality, mostly surrounding
graphics, tables, and table of contents generation.  (The open data format
and import/exporters?  Awesome fantastic necessary work.  The UI?  Er.)
 You're right, it has had a tremendous amount of effort put into it, but I
consider it a bit like its inspiration: while I can have a great amount of
respect for the people and talent who have contributed to it, I can also
dislike the product and find it fundamentally lacking for my needs.  (I
don't like Office to begin with, so perhaps that's the problem.)

I do feel that many open source projects are attempting to be direct clones
of commercial products, when that immense talent could be put to better use
creating new innovations in the same product space, but that's neither here
nor there, really, just a personal observation of disappointment.

Then something like TM2 comes along that *is* new and innovative, and it
gives me hope.  :)  <--- this is me ending on a positive note.  Yay
personal growth.


On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Marc Chanliau <marc.chanliau at gmail.com>wrote:

> @ Jason McC. Smith
> I was with you until you said "I would also put forth that of those free
> projects you listed... you definitely got what you paid for.  (Open Office?
>  Really? That's your example?  Jeez.  Bad clone of a bad office suite.)"
> Not a nice comment. People put a lot of effort in that. They may not be as
> good as you think you are, but in this case, you may want to contribute to
> that project to make it better!
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Jason McC. Smith <jason at ncpod.org>wrote:
>
>> Does it have value to you?  Then pay for it.  Don't be a cheapskate.
>>  Have you *ever* donated money to an open source project?  Time?  Code?
>>
>> No?
>>
>> Then you're just a parasite.  Support the projects that matter to you,
>> one way or another, or stop whining that you're not getting something for
>> free.
>>
>> Better yet, learn the difference between 'free as in beer' and 'free as
>> in speech'.  Open source uses both philosophies, sometimes one, sometimes
>> the other, sometimes both.  Here, I'll even do the work for you, since you
>> seem to place so little value on it:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratis_versus_libre
>>
>> I would also put forth that of those free projects you listed... you
>> definitely got what you paid for.  (Open Office?  Really?  That's your
>> example?  Jeez.  Bad clone of a bad office suite.)
>>
>> Use TextMate, don't use it, I don't care... but for god's sake, don't
>> whine that Allan put the source code out there for you to modify to fit
>> your own needs, it just looks ridiculous.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:03 PM, kafi <kkaaffii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just because Im using an open source software does not mean I need to
>>> pay for
>>> it. I have been using Open Office for personal projects for the last
>>> couple
>>> of years without paying anything.
>>>
>>> Android, CHROME, Eclipse, GIMP, TrueCrypt, Open Office, LWJGL, and
>>> hundreds
>>> of other popular open source projects are simply FREE.
>>>
>>> Maybe you are implying that you are putting more works in TM than these
>>> other projects?!!
>>>
>>> Here is the question for you, give me one example of a popular open
>>> source
>>> software, where I need to purchase license key for non-commercial
>>> personal
>>> use.
>>>
>>>
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