<div dir="ltr">My bad. I find the decision to clone Office instead of striking new ground to be a disappointing one, and haven't had much luck with getting the tool to work as advertised for even basic functionality, mostly surrounding graphics, tables, and table of contents generation. (The open data format and import/exporters? Awesome fantastic necessary work. The UI? Er.) You're right, it has had a tremendous amount of effort put into it, but I consider it a bit like its inspiration: while I can have a great amount of respect for the people and talent who have contributed to it, I can also dislike the product and find it fundamentally lacking for my needs. (I don't like Office to begin with, so perhaps that's the problem.)<div>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I do feel that many open source projects are attempting to be direct clones of commercial products, when that immense talent could be put to better use creating new innovations in the same product space, but that's neither here nor there, really, just a personal observation of disappointment.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Then something like TM2 comes along that *is* new and innovative, and it gives me hope. :) <--- this is me ending on a positive note. Yay personal growth.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Marc Chanliau <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marc.chanliau@gmail.com" target="_blank">marc.chanliau@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>@ <span name="Jason McC. Smith">Jason McC. Smith<br></span></div><span name="Jason McC. Smith">I was with you until you said "</span>I would also put forth that of those free projects you listed... you
definitely got what you paid for. (Open Office? Really? That's your
example? Jeez. Bad clone of a bad office suite.)"<br></div>Not a nice comment. People put a lot of effort in that. They may not be as good as you think you are, but in this case, you may want to contribute to that project to make it better!<br>
</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Jason McC. Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jason@ncpod.org" target="_blank">jason@ncpod.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Does it have value to you? Then pay for it. Don't be a cheapskate. Have you *ever* donated money to an open source project? Time? Code?<div>
<br></div><div>No?</div><div><br></div><div>Then you're just a parasite. Support the projects that matter to you, one way or another, or stop whining that you're not getting something for free.<br>
<div><br></div><div>Better yet, learn the difference between 'free as in beer' and 'free as in speech'. Open source uses both philosophies, sometimes one, sometimes the other, sometimes both. Here, I'll even do the work for you, since you seem to place so little value on it: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratis_versus_libre" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratis_versus_libre</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>I would also put forth that of those free projects you listed... you definitely got what you paid for. (Open Office? Really? That's your example? Jeez. Bad clone of a bad office suite.)</div>
</div><div><br></div><div>Use TextMate, don't use it, I don't care... but for god's sake, don't whine that Allan put the source code out there for you to modify to fit your own needs, it just looks ridiculous.</div>
</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:03 PM, kafi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kkaaffii@gmail.com" target="_blank">kkaaffii@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Just because Im using an open source software does not mean I need to pay for<br>
it. I have been using Open Office for personal projects for the last couple<br>
of years without paying anything.<br>
<br>
Android, CHROME, Eclipse, GIMP, TrueCrypt, Open Office, LWJGL, and hundreds<br>
of other popular open source projects are simply FREE.<br>
<br>
Maybe you are implying that you are putting more works in TM than these<br>
other projects?!!<br>
<br>
Here is the question for you, give me one example of a popular open source<br>
software, where I need to purchase license key for non-commercial personal<br>
use.<br>
<br>
<br>
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