[TxMt] Re: Projects are gone in TM2?

[Danil Shingarev]

I've used custom plist files in project did for custom bundles i have for development (like having phpunit configuration file path, single execution file for a project no matter where you currently located in the project.  
I'd love to have projects support + custom project attrs editing + some king of snippets to simplify getting project attributes from bundles code.


On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Davide Rambaldi wrote:

> My modest Opinion: you need a project support if you use a framework.
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>  If the framework is well organized (take rails as an example) the APP directory IS the project. You don't need nothing more.
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> I agree that 'favorites' don't seem that useful. +1
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> On Dec 14, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Dave Baldwin wrote:
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> > On 14 Dec 2011, at 14:59, Reaves, Timothy wrote:
> > > Any code editor without project support just does not understand software development.  Presumably you use Xcode.  Now, you may use TM for editing your files, but, Xcode would be far less useful if it did not have the concept of projects.
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> > It may not work for you but I gave up on textmate's project feature a long time ago and just open the app's directory in textmate.  I didn't find having a textmate specific view of the real directory particularly useful (i.e. being able to reorder the files and group them in some arbitrary way) and vaguely remember problems in creating new files as to where they went in the real directory structure.   
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> > You can include any other directory in your apps directory using a symlink - not quite the same as how is would be done in a  project, but achieves the same thing.
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> >  I'd be curious to know what I am overlooking that makes projects so compelling.
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> > I agree that 'favorites' don't seem that useful.
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> > Dave.
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> > > I do not want a 'favorites', as that's just silly in the context of editing text.  I do not, in any way, 'prefer' or 'favor' one over another.  There is simply the one I am working on at the moment.  And if I do not get back to it for a year, I want the files associated with that project to still be there.
> > >  
> > > And '.tm_properties' being far more flexible?  Really?  Becausr you're not a real coder if you don't modify your own dot configuration file?  1980 called and wants their hidden files back.  Yes, some may prefer these files, and for the most part, they still use emacs & vi.  I'm not knocking either of these, as I'm a huge fan of vi.  But for anyone to say that editing the dot files is more flexible then a well-thought out preferences pane, ala Qt Designer or to a lesser extent Xcode, they are just deluding themselves.  I'm interested in replacing all of my use of vim largely do to the difficulty of quickly understanding what is going on and why, and the enormous number of keyboard shortcuts one needs to remember to be proficient with the editor.  Oh, and I see you referenced how many shortcuts?  Huh,
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> > > I write code, and I want to concentrate on writing code.  Not fiddling with the configuration, or 'favorites' of the editor.
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> > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Merrifield Adam <macagp at gmail.com (mailto:macagp at gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > > While I haven't tried all the favorites and such in TM2 (yet) I will argue that one reason for me to use tmproj is because the app bundles I work on are obscured from normal view, making them cumbersome to navigate to. And there are far too many to add to favorites. tmproj was a nice way to have almost a symlink for TextMate, if you will, to the bundle.
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> > > > But as I said, I haven't actually tried the favorites so I will hold off further commentary until I am knowledgeable to speak on such things.
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> > > > Adam Merrifield
> > > > seyDoggy vCard: seydoggy.com/vcard (http://seydoggy.com/vcard)
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> > > > On Dec 14, 2011, at 4:36 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote:
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> > > > > On 14 Dec 2011, at 10:27, Peter Jahn wrote:
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> > > > >> As with many features, projects are most likely absent from the alpha and
> > > > >> will probably be restored at a later stage, almost certainly before the
> > > > >> final release.
> > > > >
> > > > > We don’t intend to restore tmproj files — there is a file browser (toggles on ⌃⌥⌘D), add to favorites (e.g. for folders) / open favorites (⌘T-style “project open” on ⇧⌘O), session restore (i.e. keep the existing stuff open on relaunch), new window with file browser showing (⌃⌘N), folder specific settings, i.e. “project settings” but far more flexible (see upcoming blog post about .tm_properties), SCM status in file browser (⇧⌘Y), show (reveal) current file in browser (⌃⌘R), etc.
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> > > > > Those things should make up for not having the old project files — give it a try and if you still feel hindered after some weeks, let us know about it.
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