[TxMt] Foreign Language Bundles; specifically Latin

[Steven Harms]

Hans,

I had not seen the 'ucs' package, it looks very useful.

Nevertheless, I want to make sure that users at keyboards that don't  
have such incredibly handy fancy-character implementation tools ( i.e.  
solaris, linux ) can still enter the complex vowels, thus via the  
command line they should be able to invoke:

./script   "ag\={o}, agere, \={e}g\={\i}, actus

And have that put the right format to the Xterm AS WELL AS produce the  
right LaTeX artifact.  So I think requiring the glyph to be entered,  
versus allowing a compositing method, may lock out some of my system  
neutrality.

Thank you for providing another tool that I can put in the patchwork  
that will get this thing running.

Best,

Steven



On Mar 10, 2008, at 4:36 AM, Hans-Joerg Bibiko wrote:

> Hi,
>
> unfortunately I do not see the point here, but please let me note  
> something.
>
>
> On 9 Mar 2008, at 23:15, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Steven Harms <sgharms at stevengharms.com 
>> > wrote:
>>> In my experience that glyph ( chosen by opt-a + vowel ) when  
>>> inserted in
>>> HTML does not port - when viewed in a web page it tends to come up  
>>> as a '?'
>>> or something similar whereas the unicode value does port.
>> Did you uesd the meta-tag for telling the browser that you are using
>> UTF-8 and saved your file in UTF-8 as well?
> If one sets the HTML page to utf-8, one will see it correctly.
>
>>> So, in theory i could extend the "Convert HTML to Entities" code  
>>> and augment
>>> it to support macron-ized vowels.
> What do you mean? If I write ā in an HTML doc and if I convert it to  
> Entities I get &#x101;. Fine. The same also for combining diacritics.
>
>>> Latin, in modern text, makes use of macron ( bars over letters ).
>>>
>>> The best way to render these glyphs, I have found, is to use the  
>>> glyphs-description in the LaTeX set, e.g. \={u} produces a little  
>>> u with a bar over it.
>>>
>>> Typing in 5 strokes just to produce that glyph is pretty painful,  
>>> so i wrote a bundle called "Latin Student".  The bulk of of these  
>>> features were along the lines of ^u producing the aforegiven LaTeX  
>>> set.
>
> In LaTeX I'm using:
> \usepackage{ucs}
> \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
> ...
> \section{Introduction}
> āēĕ
> ...
>
> ucs is a tiny Unicode package which allows to write accented  
> characters directly into an uft-8 document (without \={u}). Thus,  
> for me at least, there is no need to reinvent the wheel twice. ucs  
> can be installed by using fink "sudo fink install unicode-tex" if  
> one is using tetex. Of course, it has some limitations but to write  
> the Latin long vowel or Roomaji it is fine, I mean.
>
> Or did I misunderstand something wrong?
>
> --Hans
>
>
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