[TxMt] Re: TextMate 2, I give it up

Andrew Jaffe a.h.jaffe at gmail.com
Tue Aug 5 11:42:08 UTC 2008

Well, just to stir the pot a bit: TM is great -- I've hardly opened up 
XEmacs in the last couple of years. But there are a couple of important 
missing bits of functionality that have at least been hinted at for TM2 
that, in fact, do make me mutter under my breath every time I encounter 
them (for me, those are the lack of smarter undo and multiple viewing 
panes in a single window). I am not complaining (well, I guess I am, a 
little), but, as a paying customer, I don't think there's anything wrong 
with prodding Allan every so often (as long as it is done with good 
humor and the usual well-deserved praise for the work done so far!).



Brad Hutchins wrote:
> Yes, agreed on all counts.  Especially the discovering of new thing in 
> TM1.  I have read the Pragmatic book, have had TM1 for about 18 months, 
> and still I keep finding new things.  If you think about, the richnes 
> and depth of TM1, well . . . frankly . . . I'm amazed that Allan pulled 
> all this together by himself.
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Nick 
> <ParadoxQuine at gmail.com 
> <mailto:ParadoxQuine at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     it will be a joyous day when tm2 comes out, but i think it's more
>     fun to have no idea when it's coming and be surprised when it does.
>     it'll definitely be the best day of my coding life when it's out.
>     besides, i don't see why Allan would wait for competition, to work
>     on tm2 more, apple doesn't wait for microsoft to catch up before
>     making a new release.
>     it kind of blows my mind that I still have little things to learn
>     about TM1 though, considering how long it's been out. i guess that's
>     the mark of great software. :)
>     On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Brad Hutchins
>     <oshybrid at gmail.com
>     <mailto:oshybrid at gmail.com>> wrote:
>         Yes . . . please . . . when Allan gets the Alpha done he gets it
>         done.
>         Besides I have to ask the question.  If TextMate is so good
>         (which it is) why is everyone so impatient for TM2?  Yes it will
>         probably be better then TM1 and more scalable, but TM1 is great
>         as is.
>         If anything the bigger question would be for the windows users
>         wondering when TM is going to be coming to there platform? 
>         Besides E-text Editor which works pretty good.  But I was a
>         little put out when they wanted to charge for a product that was
>         still in Beta.
>         On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Armon Dadgar
>         <armon.dadgar at gmail.com
>         <mailto:armon.dadgar at gmail.com>>
>         wrote:
>             Please, lets not start this again.
>             Be happy with what you have, and dream of TM2 at night,
>             but for the love of god, stop complaining in the mean time.
>             Armon Dadgar
>             On Aug 4, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Peder Axensten wrote:
>              > http:wiki.macromates.com/FAQ/TextMate2
>             <http://wiki.macromates.com/FAQ/TextMate2>:
>              > Q: Will TM2 be a free upgrade?
>              > Yes. Except for users who got TM1 as part of the MacHeist
>             package. The
>              > MacHeist TM1 license will require an upgrade fee in order
>             to upgrade
>              > to TM2. (source).
>              >
>              > So, there will be no TextMate 2 for a long, long, long
>             time. Not until
>              > there is a serious competitor.
>              > The talk has been on since before Mac OS X 10.5, but...
>              > It's a pity, but it's very understandable. One has got to
>             live of
>              > something.
>              >
>              > Regards,
>              > /Peder
>              >
>              >

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