[TxMt] Window persistency (was Just came here ...)
andreaswahlin at bredband.net
Sun Jul 24 20:56:33 UTC 2005
On Jul 24, 2005, at 22:21 , Allan Odgaard wrote:
> On 24/07/2005, at 22.10, Sune Foldager wrote:
>>> many programs remember their windows settings... every finder
>>> window remembers it's settings (though that gets stored in
>>> the .DS_store file I suppose). And it should really be
>>> centralised I think if the files are to be distributed to people,
>> But what if you move the files around yourself? What if you want
>> to edit it somewhere else? I don't think doing it centralized is a
>> good idea, but let's see what Allan says about it :-).
> It's going to be de-centralized, and it's going to use filesystem
> metadata. It's just that thre was no way to do that before Tiger,
> ignoring here deprecated resource forks.
Does that mean it's coming?
I tried project thing, but the windows don't seem to keep their
individual positions onscreen when I "open in new window". Also,
whether I have soft wrap on or off does not get saved either. Now,
since Sune Foldager actually asked if this behaviour is desirable, I
should perhaps try to motivate it a bit.
I have many different applications (obviously), and all apps work a
bit different. I don't want to learn a file navigator for each and
every application that I use. Instead, I have the Finder which is my
universal file handling utility. Now the Finder should focus on
handling my files, while different applications focus on using those
files. I can appreciate the need for project managment and such
things as special power tools and I might even start to use them
someday, but for now I like the finder. Thus; I don't care for the
project manager at all.
Why do I want windows to be in the same state all the time? Well it's
like leaving a sheet of paper. I put stuff in different places, and
when I return I expect them to be there, call me anal (I hope that
means "overly tidy" in English as well) but I get very frustrated
when someone opens my closed door, says something and then goes away
without closing it (i.e returning it to the state it was before; my
Now for my closing argument, which will also dismiss tabs (again, I
have used them and liked them, and many people seem to love them, I'm
just saying I don't use tabs much on os x). Say I have two files, I
edit one but want to read stuff from the other, I align them next to
each other so I can do this. This is what a big screen is for, and
everybody seems to like big screen, or even two screens! Yet, when I
close one window or quit TextMate, I won't find my window in the same
spot I left it, meannig I might have to realign it again in order to
get it where I wanted it. Besides, the F10-expose function does not
work with tabs (although I saw some app that actually "split" the
tabs up in individual windows during expose, very nice). There is
also the visual recognition of a file, I know where I am also because
I know where that window is on my screen. Now this may sound rather
stupid but it's actually true, my eyes flicker around the screen
are up on the right, my php files more in the center etc ...
(speaking about my finder windows here)
There is a wonderful article on this over at ars technica at
So, bottom line is, I like to navigate my files with the finder, I
like to find things they way I left them.
Now I don't want to sound grumpy, I just try to motivate my needs and
hope that in the future windows will stay as I left them ... any
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