[TxMt] Re: Projects are gone in TM2?

Reaves, Timothy treaves at silverfieldstech.com
Wed Dec 14 14:59:37 UTC 2011


Any code editor without project support just does not understand software
development.  Presumably you use Xcode.  Now, you may use TM for editing
your files, but, Xcode would be far less useful if it did not have the
concept of projects.

I do not want a 'favorites', as that's just silly in the context of editing
text.  I do not, in any way, 'prefer' or 'favor' one over another.  There
is simply the one I am working on at the moment.  And if I do not get back
to it for a year, I want the files associated with that project to still be
there.

And '.tm_properties' being far more flexible?  Really?  Becausr you're not
a real coder if you don't modify your own dot configuration file?  1980
called and wants their hidden files back.  Yes, some may prefer these
files, and for the most part, they still use emacs & vi.  I'm not knocking
either of these, as I'm a huge fan of vi.  But for anyone to say that
editing the dot files is more flexible then a well-thought out preferences
pane, ala Qt Designer or to a lesser extent Xcode, they are just deluding
themselves.  I'm interested in replacing all of my use of vim largely do to
the difficulty of quickly understanding what is going on and why, and the
enormous number of keyboard shortcuts one needs to remember to be
proficient with the editor.  Oh, and I see you referenced how many
shortcuts?  Huh,

I write code, and I want to concentrate on writing code.  Not fiddling with
the configuration, or 'favorites' of the editor.


On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Merrifield Adam <macagp at gmail.com> wrote:

> While I haven't tried all the favorites and such in TM2 (yet) I will argue
> that one reason for me to use tmproj is because the app bundles I work on
> are obscured from normal view, making them cumbersome to navigate to. And
> there are far too many to add to favorites. tmproj was a nice way to have
> almost a symlink for TextMate, if you will, to the bundle.
>
> But as I said, I haven't actually tried the favorites so I will hold off
> further commentary until I am knowledgeable to speak on such things.
>
> Adam Merrifield
> seyDoggy vCard: seydoggy.com/vcard
>
> On Dec 14, 2011, at 4:36 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote:
>
> > On 14 Dec 2011, at 10:27, Peter Jahn wrote:
> >
> >> As with many features, projects are most likely absent from the alpha
> and
> >> will probably be restored at a later stage, almost certainly before the
> >> final release.
> >
> > We don’t intend to restore tmproj files — there is a file browser
> (toggles on ⌃⌥⌘D), add to favorites (e.g. for folders) / open favorites
> (⌘T-style “project open” on ⇧⌘O), session restore (i.e. keep the existing
> stuff open on relaunch), new window with file browser showing (⌃⌘N), folder
> specific settings, i.e. “project settings” but far more flexible (see
> upcoming blog post about .tm_properties), SCM status in file browser (⇧⌘Y),
> show (reveal) current file in browser (⌃⌘R), etc.
> >
> > Those things should make up for not having the old project files — give
> it a try and if you still feel hindered after some weeks, let us know about
> it.
> >
> >
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