[TxMt] Re: Honest assessment of TM2's state please!

[Lee Samuel Finn]

Hi, 

I've hesitated to jump in to what should be a non-discussion; however, I think the meta-issue here - which is one of civility - is of great importance. 

A question was asked: i.e., would Allan please provide an honest assessment of TM2's state? The question was asked of Allan, not of anyone else. It was asked in a respectful fashion. Though it was a question of Allan it was asked in a public forum; however, that was appropriate in this case as the answer to the question is of broad and general interest. In summary, I see nothing wrong with the question itself, or how it was asked, or where it was asked. 

Some of the responses have, on the other hand, been --- to my mind --- quite inappropriate. Those fall into a couple of categories: 
* Some have questioned the propriety of asking the question. Indeed, some have questioned the propriety of asking any question at all. 
* Some have questioned why anyone would care what the answer was. 
* Some have suggested that wanting more than what exists is (somehow) beyond the natural order of things. 
* Some have been just plane rude. 

There should be no question at all about the propriety of asking a civil question in a civil fashion. Gerd should not be called on the carpet for asking the question, nor should he be asked to explain or defend himself, or "justify" his need to ask the question. 

Similarly, Allan can choose to respond publicly, or privately, or via a proxy, or not at all. His choice. 

It seems to me that's enough: i.e., there is no need for anyone else to chime in unless they can provide something helpful or relevant. Anything more - in particular, responses that castigate Gerd or Allan - don't advance anyone's interest: not Gerd's, not Allan's, and certainly not the interest of TextMate or the TextMate community. 

So, I conclude with a plea: let's all try to make our contributions to this discussion, and all discussions we take part in - online or offline, remotely or in person - positive and constructive. 

Sam

On Apr 27, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Justin Catterall wrote:

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> On 27 Apr 2011, at 12:20, Merrifield Adam wrote:
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>> You know what's an alternative to TM2? TM1. Seriously, I've sat back and read each and every post in this epic thread, read all the alternative suggestions and how they pale in comparison to TM1 (and they do) and the obvious point keeps being missed… Why are you looking for an alternative to something that does what you want in the first place?
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>> Yes, yes, news of TM2 would all make us feel like we're not using abandonware (though maintenance releases do that too) but the reality is for as long as TM1 works on whatever OS Apple throws at us then I am happy to continue using TM1.
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> My feelings too, well said.
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