[TxMt] Re: Honest assessment of TM2's state please!

[John Vilsack]

Smartest thing I've heard all day.

If the developers of Textmate cared about what people thought, they
would be more involved.  Since they have opted at this point to not
speak up, you should only assume that a need to continue the
buyer/seller relationship is not a high priority for them.

Its up to each person to decide where to spend their money and their
time.  But its ridiculous for people to throw out legal terms without
understanding their ramifications.




On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Patrick Minton
<patrick.minton at gmail.com> wrote:
> When people say "you owe your customers" what they really mean is "you should do this or your customers are going to start getting pissed and leave you for competitors".  this should be painfully obvious.
>
> I can't believe we started a conversation about the semantics of who owes whom what.  We know about caveat emptor, thank you very much.  Regardless of the wording, the statement is intended towards the merchant, saying "Hey, you should do this or we will buy something else." as a fair warning, not as some demand that (for reasons I don't get) seem to outrage some of you.
>
> a) he does not need you to leap to his defense, he'll either tick off his customers or he won't
> b) the demanders don't actually need you to remind them how markets work
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Chris O'Connor wrote:
>
>> I bought TM under the impression that it was being actively developed,
>> due in no small part to the notice that TM2 would require leopard at a
>> minimum. Allan may not "owe" anyone anything, but that notice
>> certainly implied that TM2 was already well underway, and was expected
>> well before now. Also, you can't blame folks getting curious when the
>> blog has been *so* silent for many months, yet again.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 3:46 PM, John Vilsack
>> <john.vilsack at activesportsinc.com> wrote:
>>> I love conversations like this.  People that hope to curry favor rush
>>> to the defense of the oppressed business owner, yelling "LEAVE BRITNEY
>>> ALONE!" while others indignantly proclaim that purchasing a piece of
>>> software somehow entitles you to some sort of protracted support
>>> contract that the developer is in grave violation of.
>>>
>>> We all entered into the same legally binding agreement that provided
>>> us with a version of software that would work (at the time) with the
>>> system listed in the requirements.  Other than that, we are owed
>>> nothing.
>>>
>>> If Lion comes out tomorrow and Textmate doesn't work, we are SOL.
>>> If Textmate doesn't meet your requirements for transparency and
>>> release cycles, by all means exercises your rights of free market
>>> capitalism and select a competitor.  The market is full of them these
>>> days.
>>>
>>> But if you bought Textmate solely based on the fact that Textmate 2
>>> "might" be out there, then you are an idiot.  They even gave you 30
>>> days to be sure.
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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