[TxMt] Re: TM2 in the Vaporware Awards

Rick Gigger rick at alpinenetworking.com
Tue Jan 5 22:22:27 UTC 2010

I have not taken much time to investigate this but so far I have been unable to find anything that feels as natural as TextMate.  Is there another editor that has these features:

1. Snippets with place holders that you can tab through
2. The equivalent of TextMate commands
3. An equivilent of the cmd-T go to file command
4. The ability to make an ad-hoc project by opening a folder on the command line
5. An equivilent of the cmd-shift-T go to symbol command 
6. Nested syntax highlighting (for example the ability to intermingle javascript, php, html, css in one file and have them all highlighted correctly)

These seem like pretty basic features at this point but they are the one's that really draw me to TextMate. With TextMate 2 taking so long I have looked around to see if another editor has emerged with the same usability and I just haven't found anything.

Can any other editor do all these things?



On Jan 1, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Timothy Reaves wrote:

> On Dec 23, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Alex Ross wrote:
>> On Dec 23, 2009, at 7:45 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote:
>>> heh… yesterday I proudly told my brother in law that I am now so mainstream that TM has made it to Wired’s vaporware list, though he didn’t know what vaporware was ;)
>> “Congratulations” was my first thought…
> 	Congratulations indeed.  Nothing like allowing a product to founder, while the competition catches up, and surpasses.  I remember when TM outshone by far the Xcode editor.  That hasn't been the case now for a good long time.  Same for other editors.  I still use it, even with all of it's flaws, but only for a replacement for mvim.
> 	I understand software is hard; I've written a few million lines of code in my time.  I also understand how easy it is to get in over your head.  A particular company I worked for known best for internet search starts many of it's apps as small, single programmer projects.  Then they catch on like wildfire, and the company takes them over, and makes them capable of the larger attention base.  And they have great problems at this.  It is very difficult to take a small app that is popular, and turn it into a bigger app that is just as popular.  Especially with inadequate development resources.
> 	So, yes, TM is still very popular with the cult that use it.  But I'll tell ya what: at that afore mentioned company the majority of non-Java developers insist that emacs is still the best out there.  Draw your own conclusions.
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