[TxMt] Latex Config and backward compatibility questions

Tue Jul 24 18:51:16 UTC 2007

Hi Everyone,

Lots of progress on the new LaTeX and View command over the last two days.
If you can, please check out the branch and give it a try.  It should work
for you right out of the box with no additional configuration.

Both TM_LATEX_MASTER, and the TexShop directives are supported.

I think the configuration interface now handles the old ERRLVL stuff in a
much more end user friendly way.

Thanks,

Brad

On 7/23/07, Brad Miller <bmiller at luther.edu> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 7/23/07, Charilaos Skiadas <skiadas at hanover.edu> wrote:
> >
> > On Jul 23, 2007, at 2:54 PM, Brad Miller wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the comments, see below...
> > >
> > > --
> > > Brad Miller
> > > Assistant Professor, Computer Science
> > > Luther College
> > >
> > > On 7/23/07, Mike Miller < mightymiller19 at gmail.com> wrote: >
> > > TM_LATEX_MASTER
> > > > This one is more interesting.  We currently have two ways to
> > > > specify a master/root file.  Using this variable, or using the
> > > > TexShop %!TEX directive embedded directly in the file.  The TexShop
> > > > way seems clearly superior to me since it allows for more
> > > > flexibility than a single environment variable per directory or
> > > > project.  So my proposal is that the environment variable goes away.
> > >
> > > I agree that the %!TEX directive allows for more flexibility, but I
> > > think that there are several reasons that support for the environment
> > > variable should not be dropped.  First, at least in my case, it has
> > > always sufficed to use the TM_LATEX_MASTER environment variable, and
> > > I'm not sure that I can imagine a realistic situation in which one
> > > would need more than one master file per project.  Is there a common
> > > scenario in which one uses several "master" files for the same
> > > project?
> > >
> > > Here's my scenario in the book I am writing.  I have a master file
> > > for the entire book which includes the master files for each
> > > chapter.  But each chapter is broken down into individual files for
> > > big sections.  This scenario breaks the TM_LATEX_MASTER approach.
> >
> >
> > I assume then that one of the two levels of inclusion is with \input
> > commands instead of \include commands, since \include commands can't
> > be nested ASAIK?
> >
> > I have to say that I would like to keep TM_LATEX_MASTER and the %!TEX
> > directives, and have the directives take precedence if present. I
> > suppose this adds complexity which we are trying to avoid, but for me
> > the fact that the directives need to be included in each file is
> > quite bothersome, especially when moving files around to new projects
> > or whatnot. But I can also see its usefulness in your case.
> >
> > I suppose the way I would organize your situation is that I would
> > have a separate tmproj file for each chapter, when I want to work
> > with a particular project.
> >
> > So, I assume that your are solving the problem of having each chapter
> > compile on its own and at the same time be includable in the master
> > document in the standard not very pretty method using conditionals?
>
>
> > Second, if I'm not mistaken, the %!TEX directive must be placed
> > > manually in every new file that is created in a project; however, if
> > > one uses the TM_LATEX_MASTER environment variable, a new file in a
> > > project is automatically assumed to have the same master file as the
> > > environment variable.
>
>
> Yes.
>
> I don't think that keeping TM_LATEX_MASTER around is that much extra
> work.  In fact I had already coded up using it before I started work on this
> configuration interface.  I have plenty of old papers and projects that will
> break if I remove TM_LATEX_MASTER so I don't know how strongly I feel about
> getting rid of this one variable.
>
> But, the question is how should we let the user set their root file?
> Through the standard way of setting a project environment variable?  Tell
> them to edit .textmate_init, or provide another dialog  that either writes
> to .textmate_init or adds a line to the current file?  It seems a bit
> confusing to give the user two totally different ways of configuring
> something as simple as the master file.
>
>
> >
> > > This could be solved by modifying the standard latex templates, or
> > > adding another command to the latex bundle that allows you to
> > > quickly add a directive line to a new file.
> >
> > As well as edit an existing directive line. Would that command try to
> > automatically figure out the name of the master file, or would the
> > user be expected to type it in?
>
>
> I suppose it could look for other .tex files in the same directory and if
> they have a root directive already in place that could be suggested.
>
>
>
> > >
> > > Do we need a separate checkbox that says keep textmate html window
> > > open?
> >
> > No, but we do need to make sure that it does stay open based on which
> > of the three preferences the user has selected ;)
>
>
> So, maybe we should be more clear in the preferences window:
>
> Provide a checkbox that says:   Automatically start external Viewer
>
> And the radio boxes should say:
>
> Close output if no errors
> Close output if no errors or warnings
> Do not close output window
>
> That may be a more direct way of saying what the ERRLVL variable is really
> getting at.  What do you think??
>
> Brad
>
>
> > Brad
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Mike Miller
> >
> > Haris Skiadas
> > Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
> > Hanover College
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> > (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> > http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Brad Miller
> Assistant Professor, Computer Science
> Luther College
>

-- 
Brad Miller
Assistant Professor, Computer Science
Luther College
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.macromates.com/textmate/attachments/20070724/87f3e050/attachment.html>