[TxMt] Re: Coda, Panic Sans Font

Thomas Aylott (subtleGradient) oblivious at subtlegradient.com
Mon Apr 23 22:56:25 UTC 2007


Ok, then.
Please allow me to completely backpeddle here and say that it's  
completely genuous :D

Dear Panic guys, I hereby humbly apologize for my idle statement. We  
love you!

	thomas Aylott — subtleGradient — CrazyEgg — sixteenColors

On Apr 23, 2007, at 6:44 PM, Brad Choate wrote:

> Sorry, meant to also say, it looks like Panic is doing exactly what  
> is being asked here:
>
> * Panic Sans is a derivative work of Bitstream Vera Sans, so the  
> font name must not use "Bitstream" or "Vera" in the font name.
> * The documentation includes copyright and trademark notice as  
> required by the Bitstream Vera license.
>
> Changing the font name is important for two reasons:
>
> * it doesn't make use of trademarks held by Bitstream
> * it doesn't cause any conflicts with other fonts
>
> -Brad
>
>
>
> On Apr 23, 2007, at 3:30 PM, Brad Choate wrote:
>
>> The Bitstream Vera readme says thusly (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/):
>>
>> The fonts have a generous copyright, allowing derivative works (as  
>> long as "Bitstream" or "Vera" are not in the names), and full  
>> redistribution (so long as they are not *sold* by themselves).  
>> They can be be bundled, redistributed and sold with any software.
>>
>>
>> And from the Coda help files:
>>
>> Panic Sans Mono font based on the font Bitstream Vera, modified  
>> for improved small-size legibility on Mac OS X.
>>
>> Copyright © 2007 by Panic, Inc.
>> Copyright © 2003 by Bitstream, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
>> Bitstream Vera is a trademark of Bitstream, Inc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 23, 2007, at 3:23 PM, Methnen (AKA Jamie) wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 23, 2007, at 3:15 PM, Thomas Aylott (subtleGradient) wrote:
>>>> Wow, that's a little disingenuous of them to distribute a find  
>>>> under their own name like that.
>>>> I'm digging Inconsolata these days anyway.
>>>
>>> I would think that they must have licensed it in some form or  
>>> another.  I wouldn't think the Panic guys would be stupid enough  
>>> to just steal it.  But then I've been surprised by people/ 
>>> companies before.
>>>
>>> Jamie
>>>
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