[TxMt] The "TextMate Must Have integrated ftp/sftp/ssh" discussion

[Eric O'Brien]

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This is very interesting!

Clearly, folks have a range of different tasks they need to  
accomplish and a range of different approaches for doing so.

In my case, what I'm currently doing is ridiculously simple compared  
to what some on the list are doing:  I'm just editing a small number  
of files that make up "a website."  I'm editing the files locally...  
the files are on a hard drive in a box that's right under my desk.   
But to complicate things, I want to be able to see how these files  
appear when served from a REAL web server (not just opened from my  
disk).  Plus, I also want to know how they look from a Windows machine.

So... I've set up my next oldest computer (a G3) as a "server in my  
closet."  This is my "test" deployment location.

Of course, I also want to deploy the files on a (external) "staging"  
server where my client(s) can check things out.

So, at minimum, I have stuff in three places that I (usually) want to  
be the same.  When I started using TextMate, I was concerned about  
that lack of "ftp/sftp/ssh integration."

After I discovered and researched rsync (yes, consider me a newbie as  
regards The Power of the Command Line) and TextMate bundles, I'm  
suddenly no longer concerned about whether I can open a file "via  
ftp" FROM WITHIN TextMate.  Or save it back from TextMate "to" the  
Internet.

On Feb 19, 2006, at 10:05 PM, Court K wrote, in part:
> <snip>
>   I mean who actually is editing files that ARE NOT going to end up  
> on the internet? ...
> <snip>

As other's have mentioned, this is not *quite* the universal  
situation... for example, folks editing LaTeX are (I presume) mostly  
expecting to see the result in print; folks using TextMate to write  
screen plays are also (again, I presume) thinking in terms other than  
"web deployment."

The files I am editing ARE intended to go directly for the Internet.   
But still I feel no need for "built-in" ftp/sftp/ssh support in  
TextMate.  In part this is because I'm always working with the same  
set of files and their location on the net is always the same.  And  
no one else is editing them other than me.

So my Question:

What are folks doing that makes them want to see built-in ftp/sftp/ 
ssh support in TextMate?  One situation I can imagine is the desire/ 
need to open many arbitrary files that are located in many arbitrary  
locations on the Internet.  I don't have a good picture of when  
anyone would be needing to do that though.  Are people doing that?   
For me, the files I want to edit are on my computer.  Periodically  
they need to be uploaded to the net, but my editing sessions don't  
begin from copies that were on the net.

Just Curious!  ;)

eo