From allan at macromates.com Tue Feb 1 03:52:22 2005 From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 04:52:22 +0100 Subject: [TxMt] Beta 4 & bundles Message-ID: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com> Beta 4 is out -- to those of you who got the beta 3 w/o bundles and therefor installed these as user/local bundles, I'd recommend removing these, since updated defaults won't show otherwise (but new defaults will). From Paul at essential-skills.com Tue Feb 1 04:26:10 2005 From: Paul at essential-skills.com (Paul Kline) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 23:26:10 -0500 Subject: [TxMt] Atomic Saving / Saving Question Message-ID: What is atomic saving? How can I tell TextMate to save as soon as it loses focus? Due to I compile some Xcode apps inside Xcode, and use textmate to do all my editing and I keep forgeting to hit Command-S. (unless someone has a more effient way) Thanks :) Paul From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu Tue Feb 1 07:24:08 2005 From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 23:24:08 -0800 Subject: [TxMt] Beta 4 & bundles In-Reply-To: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com> References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com> Message-ID: At 4:52 AM +0100 2/1/05, Allan Odgaard wrote: >Beta 4 is out -- to those of you who got the beta 3 w/o bundles and >therefor installed these as user/local bundles, I'd recommend >removing these, since updated defaults won't show otherwise (but new >defaults will). b4 has some really cool features, including the one you can see at Allan's blog movie. I particularly wanted to try the new PDF Latex command. However, I had to go through some trouble to make mine work. Here is what I did... your mileage may vary. (1) I downloaded Schubert's PDF Browser Plugin at (2) I needed to disable my Adobe PDF Plugin. I ran the new PDFLatex command with it, and it popped up a window demanding to find an Adobe Reader and then the command never displayed PDF. (Man, Adobe has really gone down the tubes in quality... little editorial). So for me, I did a trash /Library/Internet\ Plug-Ins/AdobePDFViewer.plugin using the 'trash' command from osxutils (3) I also had to tell TM to stop using the Adobe PDF plugin, which I could only do by nuking the preferences at ~/Library/Preferences/com.macromates.textmate.plist (4) I also had to update my pdflatex installation from 7.5.2 to 7.5.3 which I did using the i-Installer to install the latest TeX build. That got it working. It's pretty neat! One bonus warning. (5) for the moment, HTML output windows become unresponsive if you click on a non-existent link. (E.g. the current version of "Man...") You can still close them though. - Eric -- Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics San Francisco State University erichsu at math.sfsu.edu http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu From woeye at highteq.net Tue Feb 1 10:24:13 2005 From: woeye at highteq.net (Lars Hoss) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:24:13 +0100 Subject: [TxMt] Beta 4 & bundles In-Reply-To: References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com> Message-ID: <6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net> Hi! Something's wrong with the file chooser (Apple+T) imho. When I type "app_" for example it won't find "app_controller.rb". But if I type "appl" it'll find "app_controller.rb" and "application_controller.rb". It seems it doesn't treat the "_" in the proper way? Regards, Lars -- "Stil ist die F?higkeit, komplizierte Dinge einfach zu sagen - nicht umgekehrt." -- Cocteau, Jean From cryo at cyanite.org Tue Feb 1 10:55:06 2005 From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:55:06 +0100 Subject: [TxMt] pdfLaTeX, b4 Message-ID: <563df91ad0bac4fd2c4667726197bf9a@cyanite.org> So what's the deal with the -halt-on-error flag shipped from TM to pdfLaTeX? My pdflatex (pdfTeX (Web2C 7.4.5) 3.14159-1.10b; from the teTeX package) doesn't dig that flag at least. -- Sune. :: the Cottage of Lost Play. :: http://cyanite.org From cryo at cyanite.org Tue Feb 1 10:57:33 2005 From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:57:33 +0100 Subject: [TxMt] Atomic Saving / Saving Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 1. feb 2005, at 5:26, Paul Kline wrote: > What is atomic saving? Atomic saving makes sure that the old version of the file on disk is replaced with the new one in on, atomic, operation. This is sometimes needed when the files you are writing might at the same time be read by other running programs. Technically it's writing the file with another name, then renaming the new file into the old file (destroying the old file in the process). The disadvantage of atomic saves (for some), is that the file gets a new inode-number each time which will break hard-links and might upset aliases if they are not pointing correctly. > How can I tell TextMate to save as soon as it loses focus? I don't think you can do that, currently. -- Sune. :: the Cottage of Lost Play. :: http://cyanite.org From cryo at cyanite.org Tue Feb 1 10:59:04 2005 From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:59:04 +0100 Subject: [TxMt] pdfLaTeX, b4 In-Reply-To: <563df91ad0bac4fd2c4667726197bf9a@cyanite.org> References: <563df91ad0bac4fd2c4667726197bf9a@cyanite.org> Message-ID: On 1. feb 2005, at 11:55, Sune Foldager wrote: > So what's the deal with the -halt-on-error flag shipped from TM to > pdfLaTeX? My pdflatex (pdfTeX (Web2C 7.4.5) 3.14159-1.10b; from the > teTeX package) doesn't dig that flag at least. Unknown option -output-directory also... maybe others as well ;-). -- Sune. :: the Cottage of Lost Play. :: http://cyanite.org From eenywhite at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 11:33:30 2005 From: eenywhite at gmail.com (Ian) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:33:30 +0000 Subject: [TxMt] Beta 4 & bundles In-Reply-To: <6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net> References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com> <6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net> Message-ID: <477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com> > Something's wrong with the file chooser (Apple+T) imho. When I type > "app_" for example it won't find "app_controller.rb". But if I type > "appl" it'll find "app_controller.rb" and "application_controller.rb". > It seems it doesn't treat the "_" in the proper way? +1 (similar) when I type a "." it fails to match any files. I don;t know if this is intended, but I have many files named as follows job.action.php job.model.php job.validator.php and I can't use command+T to distiinguish between them. (Love the HTML output though!) Ian From cryo at cyanite.org Tue Feb 1 12:04:38 2005 From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:04:38 +0100 Subject: [TxMt] Beta 4 & bundles In-Reply-To: <477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com> References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com> <6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net> <477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org> On 1. feb 2005, at 12:33, Ian wrote: >> Something's wrong with the file chooser (Apple+T) imho. When I type >> "app_" for example it won't find "app_controller.rb". But if I type >> "appl" it'll find "app_controller.rb" and "application_controller.rb". >> It seems it doesn't treat the "_" in the proper way? > > +1 (similar) > > when I type a "." it fails to match any files. I don;t know if this > is intended, but I have many files named as follows > job.action.php > job.model.php > job.validator.php > and I can't use command+T to distiinguish between them. This could be a bug, but the idea in general is not to type a prefix of the file you want to find, but some characteristic letters. For job.model.php you could type jm or jmp or mod. For app_controller.rb try ac or acr or con or something like that. -- Sune. :: the Cottage of Lost Play. :: http://cyanite.org From roberto+textmate at keltia.freenix.fr Tue Feb 1 12:08:06 2005 From: roberto+textmate at keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:08:06 +0100 Subject: [TxMt] Atomic Saving / Saving Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050201120806.GA17758@tara.freenix.org> According to Sune Foldager: > The disadvantage of atomic saves (for some), is that the file gets a > new inode-number each time which will break hard-links and might upset > aliases if they are not pointing correctly. The advantage is that with GNU arch/bazaar which use hard-linking to a central revision library (to speed up access and avoid wasting space) you can use TM. When one modifies a given file, in that case you MUST break hard links. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto at keltia.freenix.fr Darwin snuadh.freenix.org Kernel Version 7.7.0: Sun Nov 7 16:06:51 PST 2004 From cryo at cyanite.org Tue Feb 1 12:09:31 2005 From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:09:31 +0100 Subject: [TxMt] Atomic Saving / Saving Question In-Reply-To: <20050201120806.GA17758@tara.freenix.org> References: <20050201120806.GA17758@tara.freenix.org> Message-ID: On 1. feb 2005, at 13:08, Ollivier Robert wrote: > According to Sune Foldager: >> The disadvantage of atomic saves (for some), is that the file gets a >> new inode-number each time which will break hard-links and might upset >> aliases if they are not pointing correctly. > > The advantage is that with GNU arch/bazaar which use hard-linking to a > central revision library (to speed up access and avoid wasting space) > you > can use TM. When one modifies a given file, in that case you MUST > break > hard links. Yes, for some it's good that it breaks, for some it's bad :-p. -- Sune. :: the Cottage of Lost Play. :: http://cyanite.org From eenywhite at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 12:35:11 2005 From: eenywhite at gmail.com (Ian) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 12:35:11 +0000 Subject: [TxMt] Beta 4 & bundles In-Reply-To: <1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org> References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com> <6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net> <477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com> <1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org> Message-ID: <477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com> > This could be a bug, but the idea in general is not to type a prefix of > the file you want to find, but some characteristic letters. For > job.model.php you could type jm or jmp or mod. For app_controller.rb > try ac or acr or con or something like that. Brilliant! Didn't realise the algorthim was that good (duh - I guess I should have when Allan said he donated to quicksilver). I wonder how many other things I am missing out on because of my diminished expectations...? From woeye at highteq.net Tue Feb 1 13:22:50 2005 From: woeye at highteq.net (Lars Hoss) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:22:50 +0100 Subject: [TxMt] pdfLaTeX, b4 In-Reply-To: References: <563df91ad0bac4fd2c4667726197bf9a@cyanite.org> Message-ID: <5EE54FAE-7454-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net> yup, me too :-) Am 01.02.2005 um 11:59 schrieb Sune Foldager: > On 1. feb 2005, at 11:55, Sune Foldager wrote: > >> So what's the deal with the -halt-on-error flag shipped from TM to >> pdfLaTeX? My pdflatex (pdfTeX (Web2C 7.4.5) 3.14159-1.10b; from the >> teTeX package) doesn't dig that flag at least. > > Unknown option -output-directory also... maybe others as well ;-). > > -- > Sune. > :: the Cottage of Lost Play. > :: http://cyanite.org > > ______________________________________________________________________ > For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com > (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't) > http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate > > -- "Stil ist die F?higkeit, komplizierte Dinge einfach zu sagen - nicht umgekehrt." -- Cocteau, Jean From allan at macromates.com Tue Feb 1 13:31:28 2005 From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:31:28 +0100 Subject: [TxMt] pdfLaTeX, b4 In-Reply-To: <5EE54FAE-7454-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net> References: <563df91ad0bac4fd2c4667726197bf9a@cyanite.org> <5EE54FAE-7454-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net> Message-ID: <45e668a3ffa7ccb3131cc2968970e375@macromates.com> On Feb 1, 2005, at 14:22, Lars Hoss wrote: >> Unknown option -output-directory also... maybe others as well ;-). > yup, me too :-) You need to upgrade to 7.5.3, as mentioned by Eric earlier today: http://lists.macromates.com/pipermail/textmate/2005-February/ 002676.html From bonelake at mac.com Tue Feb 1 13:35:14 2005 From: bonelake at mac.com (Brad Miller) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 07:35:14 -0600 Subject: [TxMt] pdfLaTeX, b4 In-Reply-To: <5EE54FAE-7454-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net> References: <563df91ad0bac4fd2c4667726197bf9a@cyanite.org> <5EE54FAE-7454-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net> Message-ID: The latest unstable version of tetex from the fink archive appears to be several versions out of date. As Eric mentioned earlier, he uesd i-Installer to update to pdflatex version 7.5.3. The the most recent pdflatex from fink appears to be 7.4.5! I'm in the middle of converting to the i-Installer distribution of latex. I'll let you know how it goes... Brad On Feb 1, 2005, at 7:22 AM, Lars Hoss wrote: > yup, me too :-) > > Am 01.02.2005 um 11:59 schrieb Sune Foldager: > >> On 1. feb 2005, at 11:55, Sune Foldager wrote: >> >>> So what's the deal with the -halt-on-error flag shipped from TM to >>> pdfLaTeX? My pdflatex (pdfTeX (Web2C 7.4.5) 3.14159-1.10b; from the >>> teTeX package) doesn't dig that flag at least. >> >> Unknown option -output-directory also... maybe others as well ;-). >> >> -- >> Sune. >> :: the Cottage of Lost Play. >> :: http://cyanite.org >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com >> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't) >> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate >> >> > -- > "Stil ist die F?higkeit, komplizierte Dinge einfach zu sagen - nicht > umgekehrt." -- Cocteau, Jean > > ______________________________________________________________________ > For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com > (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't) > http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate > Brad Miller, PhD Assistant Professor Luther College http://www.cs.luther.edu/~bmiller jabber: bnmnetp at jabber.org From woeye at highteq.net Tue Feb 1 13:36:33 2005 From: woeye at highteq.net (Lars Hoss) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:36:33 +0100 Subject: [TxMt] pdfLaTeX, b4 In-Reply-To: <45e668a3ffa7ccb3131cc2968970e375@macromates.com> References: <563df91ad0bac4fd2c4667726197bf9a@cyanite.org> <5EE54FAE-7454-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net> <45e668a3ffa7ccb3131cc2968970e375@macromates.com> Message-ID: <49CE4001-7456-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net> Oh, ok. Sorry. *update* Regards, Lars Am 01.02.2005 um 14:31 schrieb Allan Odgaard: > On Feb 1, 2005, at 14:22, Lars Hoss wrote: > >>> Unknown option -output-directory also... maybe others as well ;-). >> yup, me too :-) > > You need to upgrade to 7.5.3, as mentioned by Eric earlier today: > > http://lists.macromates.com/pipermail/textmate/2005-February/ > 002676.html > > ______________________________________________________________________ > For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com > (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't) > http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate > > -- "Stil ist die F?higkeit, komplizierte Dinge einfach zu sagen - nicht umgekehrt." -- Cocteau, Jean From allan at macromates.com Tue Feb 1 13:39:33 2005 From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:39:33 +0100 Subject: [TxMt] pdfLaTeX, b4 In-Reply-To: References: <563df91ad0bac4fd2c4667726197bf9a@cyanite.org> <5EE54FAE-7454-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net> Message-ID: <9ffa79d7c16a1ba7bf72186ed8c5d6d4@macromates.com> On Feb 1, 2005, at 14:35, Brad Miller wrote: > I'm in the middle of converting to the i-Installer distribution of > latex. I'll let you know how it goes... The i-installer also has a very good HTML converter (tex4ht) it does beautiful anti-aliasing when it needs to generate images (e.g. for mathematics) and is without a doubt the best LaTeX to HTML conversion I've seen! From allan at macromates.com Tue Feb 1 13:44:50 2005 From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:44:50 +0100 Subject: [TxMt] File chooser string matching (was: Beta 4 & bundles) In-Reply-To: <477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com> References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com> <6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net> <477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com> <1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org> <477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Feb 1, 2005, at 13:35, Ian wrote: >> This could be a bug, but the idea in general is not to type a prefix >> of the file you want to find, but some characteristic letters. For >> job.model.php you could type jm or jmp or mod. [...] > Brilliant! Didn't realise the algorthim was that good (duh - I guess I > should have when Allan said he donated to quicksilver). Actually Nicholas (QS author) also ?complained? about the preference toward abbreviations instead of full substring matching ;) I'll make it detect substring-typing better and also make sure that entering punctuation doesn't lead to a non-match. But the idea is indeed that one should enter an abbreviation and not the actual full filename. From bonelake at mac.com Tue Feb 1 15:12:15 2005 From: bonelake at mac.com (Brad Miller) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:12:15 -0600 Subject: [TxMt] pdfLaTeX, b4 In-Reply-To: <9ffa79d7c16a1ba7bf72186ed8c5d6d4@macromates.com> References: <563df91ad0bac4fd2c4667726197bf9a@cyanite.org> <5EE54FAE-7454-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net> <9ffa79d7c16a1ba7bf72186ed8c5d6d4@macromates.com> Message-ID: <48f0a263ffda92273fc4af643b193069@mac.com> The upgrade went very smoothly, I chose the expert mode install and accepted all the defaults. Now I'm almost ecstatic about the PDF LaTeX command :-) Allan, here is another case where a project specific variable would be extremely handy. Since I almost always work with multiple files for my latex projects I would really love to be able to specify a main file, or root file and have pdflatex run on that file rather than $TM_FILEPATH. Obviously I can switch buffers to the main file and hit F3 but thats not as convenient. I suppose this makes error handling more difficult though... Actually I just tried running from my main file with an error to see what would happen.... TextMate and the HTML preview window crashed. :-( Brad On Feb 1, 2005, at 7:39 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote: > On Feb 1, 2005, at 14:35, Brad Miller wrote: > >> I'm in the middle of converting to the i-Installer distribution of >> latex. I'll let you know how it goes... > > The i-installer also has a very good HTML converter (tex4ht) it does > beautiful anti-aliasing when it needs to generate images (e.g. for > mathematics) and is without a doubt the best LaTeX to HTML conversion > I've seen! > > ______________________________________________________________________ > For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com > (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't) > http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate > Brad Miller, PhD Assistant Professor Luther College http://www.cs.luther.edu/~bmiller jabber: bnmnetp at jabber.org From robert_ullrey at mac.com Tue Feb 1 15:18:05 2005 From: robert_ullrey at mac.com (Mr. Robert Ullrey) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 07:18:05 -0800 Subject: [TxMt] pdfLaTeX, b4 In-Reply-To: <45e668a3ffa7ccb3131cc2968970e375@macromates.com> Message-ID: PdfLateX works great. I have the latest LaTeX distribution and everything works as expected. I also had to delete my 'com.macromates.textmate.plist' though (have your serial number ready to re-input). Thanks Allan, this is a very nice addition to TextMate. I know LaTeX was not the original intent of TextMate, but with so many of TextMates other features, it is a great tool for writing. Robert ********************************************************************* Allan Odgaard wrote on [Tuesday, February 1, 2005 +0100] > On Feb 1, 2005, at 14:22, Lars Hoss wrote: > > >> Unknown option -output-directory also... maybe others as well ;-). > > yup, me too :-) > > You need to upgrade to 7.5.3, as mentioned by Eric earlier today: > > http://lists.macromates.com/pipermail/textmate/2005-February/ > 002676.html > > ______________________________________________________________________ > For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com > (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't) > http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate From allan at macromates.com Tue Feb 1 15:18:45 2005 From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:18:45 +0100 Subject: [TxMt] pdfLaTeX, b4 In-Reply-To: <48f0a263ffda92273fc4af643b193069@mac.com> References: <563df91ad0bac4fd2c4667726197bf9a@cyanite.org> <5EE54FAE-7454-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net> <9ffa79d7c16a1ba7bf72186ed8c5d6d4@macromates.com> <48f0a263ffda92273fc4af643b193069@mac.com> Message-ID: <1701cbaeafa45d1902bd7fd08de3ef27@macromates.com> On Feb 1, 2005, at 16:12, Brad Miller wrote: > Allan, here is another case where a project specific variable would be > extremely handy. [...] But they do exist, just rather hidden. Select the I button in the project drawer when no items are selected. > Actually I just tried running from my main file with an error to see > what would happen.... TextMate and the HTML preview window crashed. > :-( Could you send me the crash-log and/or more details about this? From mats at imediatec.co.uk Tue Feb 1 15:33:17 2005 From: mats at imediatec.co.uk (Mats Persson) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:33:17 +0000 Subject: [TxMt] Suggestion: Folding behavior modification In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1fef66f4d0cc4d41be4f66208a0bc6a7@imediatec.co.uk> On 29 Jan 2005, at 18:00, Eric Curtis wrote: > The behavior I would like to suggest is that if you backspace in one > of the above situations the fold opens automatically and one character > is deleted. This way if I really did want to delete it all I can > select it and do so otherwise I am given a clear indication of what > happened. Me too Kind regards, Mats ---- "TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease" - www.macromates.com - From bmiller at luther.edu Tue Feb 1 15:53:20 2005 From: bmiller at luther.edu (Brad Miller) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:53:20 -0600 Subject: [TxMt] pdfLaTeX, b4 In-Reply-To: <1701cbaeafa45d1902bd7fd08de3ef27@macromates.com> References: <563df91ad0bac4fd2c4667726197bf9a@cyanite.org> <5EE54FAE-7454-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net> <9ffa79d7c16a1ba7bf72186ed8c5d6d4@macromates.com> <48f0a263ffda92273fc4af643b193069@mac.com> <1701cbaeafa45d1902bd7fd08de3ef27@macromates.com> Message-ID: Sorry for sending this crash log to the list, but I've tried three times, and I cannot get mail to go to you directly. (even after telling Mail to convert everything to plain text) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: TextMate.crash.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 11112 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Here's what I got back from the mailer... The original message was received at Tue, 1 Feb 2005 07:48:22 -0800 (PST) from smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- (reason: 550 Error: Your email program uses "=20" instead of spaces. Please correct this (try setting your mail program to use plain text) and resend your message.) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- On Feb 1, 2005, at 9:18 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote: > On Feb 1, 2005, at 16:12, Brad Miller wrote: > >> Allan, here is another case where a project specific variable would >> be extremely handy. [...] > > But they do exist, just rather hidden. Select the I button in the > project drawer when no items are selected. > >> Actually I just tried running from my main file with an error to see >> what would happen.... TextMate and the HTML preview window crashed. >> :-( > > Could you send me the crash-log and/or more details about this? > > ______________________________________________________________________ > For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com > (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't) > http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate > Brad Miller, PhD Assistant Professor Luther College http://www.cs.luther.edu/~bmiller jabber: bnmnetp at jabber.org From bonelake at mac.com Tue Feb 1 15:54:46 2005 From: bonelake at mac.com (Brad Miller) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:54:46 -0600 Subject: [TxMt] pdfLaTeX, b4 In-Reply-To: <1701cbaeafa45d1902bd7fd08de3ef27@macromates.com> References: <563df91ad0bac4fd2c4667726197bf9a@cyanite.org> <5EE54FAE-7454-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net> <9ffa79d7c16a1ba7bf72186ed8c5d6d4@macromates.com> <48f0a263ffda92273fc4af643b193069@mac.com> <1701cbaeafa45d1902bd7fd08de3ef27@macromates.com> Message-ID: <5fb54386a3564d9f6a72a147021eae70@mac.com> Sorry for sending this crash log to the list, but I've tried three times, and I cannot get mail to go to you directly. (even after telling Mail to convert everything to plain text) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: TextMate.crash.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 11112 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Here's what I got back from the mailer... The original message was received at Tue, 1 Feb 2005 07:48:22 -0800 (PST) from smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- (reason: 550 Error: Your email program uses "=20" instead of spaces. Please correct this (try setting your mail program to use plain text) and resend your message.) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- On Feb 1, 2005, at 9:18 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote: > On Feb 1, 2005, at 16:12, Brad Miller wrote: > >> Allan, here is another case where a project specific variable would >> be extremely handy. [...] > > But they do exist, just rather hidden. Select the I button in the > project drawer when no items are selected. > >> Actually I just tried running from my main file with an error to see >> what would happen.... TextMate and the HTML preview window crashed. >> :-( > > Could you send me the crash-log and/or more details about this? > > ______________________________________________________________________ > For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com > (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't) > http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate > Brad Miller, PhD Assistant Professor Luther College http://www.cs.luther.edu/~bmiller jabber: bnmnetp at jabber.org From mats at imediatec.co.uk Tue Feb 1 16:17:03 2005 From: mats at imediatec.co.uk (Mats Persson) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:17:03 +0000 Subject: [TxMt] 1.1b4 File Chooser & HTML Output options Message-ID: Having just tried out the new 1.1b4 version, I just have to share a few thoughts. 1. The Search field in the File Chooser window should contain a number of options a la Finder & Mail for how the search algorithm should work. Although it's cool to just type 'td' to get the 'todo.txt' file, but sometimes I want to be able to just use 'str' to find the files that have "string" in them for example. Or doing a find on 'class.' to just have my various classes show up as another example. There are many more. 2. HTML Output Options. The new Bundle Editor is really cool, especially the resizing when switching from "Show as HTML" to "Show in separate window". Although I assume Allan have already thought about this, I just have to ask. Is there any chance that we could have a few options there as well ? Such as Default Format: None - 
 -  - 
 - (??)   (if it's not 
obvious what I mean, just let me know)

Default HTML File:  'Choose file field' / path

If we could have a default HTML file that the command output could be 
replaced into. Sort of like this:


	
	
		$TM_COMMAND_OUTPUT
	


I know that we could create files and code in our commands to do most 
of this, but it won't be as elegant.



Kind regards,

Mats

----
"TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
- www.macromates.com -



From mats at imediatec.co.uk  Tue Feb  1 16:38:18 2005
From: mats at imediatec.co.uk (Mats Persson)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:38:18 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] TextMate's Missing Snippets Palette
In-Reply-To: <41FDF1C4.2090809@factorycity.net>
References: <41FDF1C4.2090809@factorycity.net>
Message-ID: <85b6172d675bb78820b3e9122d73fcaa@imediatec.co.uk>


I've thought about this idea, and I agree that it would be good to have 
a sort of "Crib sheet" of available snippets within the current mode, 
as when you have a lot of them - like me - their triggers tend to get 
muddled up in my mind.

Ideally it would follow Chris' second mock-up as it would be better to 
work with and be a floating-on-top window.

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Additionally, It would be great if you could have some text selected in 
the main editor window and then just click the "New" (snippet) button 
and have that code added as a snippet with a default name.

Double-clicking on the snippet name in the window would open up the 
snippet editor window.

Just my 2 pence added.


Kind regards,

Mats

----
"TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
- www.macromates.com -


From kdfspam at friesendev.ca  Tue Feb  1 17:43:29 2005
From: kdfspam at friesendev.ca (Kim Friesen)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:43:29 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] New Icon (was: Beta 4 & bundles)
In-Reply-To: 
References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com>
	
	<6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net>
	<477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com>
	<1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org>
	<477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>


I really like the new icon on 1.1b4.  I found the previous PurpleBlob 
icon really stood out (unnaturally ) on the Dock and when Cmd-Tabbing.

Good work!

KDF



From simon.textmate.list at helvector.org  Tue Feb  1 17:47:37 2005
From: simon.textmate.list at helvector.org (Simon Gregory)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:47:37 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] esc auto-complete?
Message-ID: <1ba8c86dc426564ef36586533a3b8713@helvector.org>

I'm trying to add a few snippets to the Actionscript bundle to include 
some of the shortcuts that Actionscript developers would be used to 
after coding in Flash. I've got the tab completion working fine but I'm 
used to pressing esc then the key combination to invoke an auto 
complete and was hoping that someone could tell me how to get this 
working.

If you've time then an explanation of Activation: Key Equivalent and 
Activation: Input Pattern would also be useful as I can't find any 
documentation.

Thanks,
Simon



From robert.ullrey at sbcglobal.net  Tue Feb  1 18:01:03 2005
From: robert.ullrey at sbcglobal.net (Robert Ullrey)
Date: Tue,  1 Feb 2005 10:01:03 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] pdfLaTeX, b4
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Just reporting that the PDF LaTeX command is great for outputting
hyperref documents as the links are immediately accessible in Shubert's
plugin. 

Quick question though. Now I would like to use XeLateX as my typesetting
engine so I can change fonts through fontspec. How can I change the
bundle command in PDF LateX to use XeLateX ($xelatex  [file] in the
terminal)?

Thanks

Robert

P.S., It would also be nice to be able to use ConTeXt ($texexec) 





From ecurtis at rgbdesignstudio.com  Tue Feb  1 18:11:25 2005
From: ecurtis at rgbdesignstudio.com (Eric Curtis)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 10:11:25 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] OS X Services
In-Reply-To: <84aff9dbe26e385ef7685f659cdbfcb2@macromates.com>
References: 
	<84aff9dbe26e385ef7685f659cdbfcb2@macromates.com>
Message-ID: 

As my previous email suggested I am currently playing with Apple 
Services and I ran across an intriguing program that does not seem to 
work 100% in TM.

The program is IceCoffee and it adds a service menu to the menu bar and 
contextual menu. However the contextual menu does not appear in TM. 
Does anyone have this working or is it just a shortcoming of the 
program?

Thanks,

Eric

PS. the url for checking it out is:

http://web.sabi.net/nriley/software/



From ecurtis at rgbdesignstudio.com  Tue Feb  1 18:12:40 2005
From: ecurtis at rgbdesignstudio.com (Eric Curtis)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 10:12:40 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] OS X Services
In-Reply-To: <84aff9dbe26e385ef7685f659cdbfcb2@macromates.com>
References: 
	<84aff9dbe26e385ef7685f659cdbfcb2@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <727ee9859638af2346853591d2931359@rgbdesignstudio.com>

Perhaps I am doing something wrong put when I highlight a chunk of text 
and execute the service nothing happens...

Probably user error but what would it be?

Thanks,

Eric C



From jpinnix at pixelgrazer.com  Tue Feb  1 18:12:35 2005
From: jpinnix at pixelgrazer.com (jeremy*pinnix)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 12:12:35 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] New Icon (was: Beta 4 & bundles)
In-Reply-To: <739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com>
	
	<6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net>
	<477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com>
	<1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org>
	<477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
Message-ID: 

I completely agree!

jeremy.
On Feb 1, 2005, at 11:43 AM, Kim Friesen wrote:

>
> I really like the new icon on 1.1b4.  I found the previous PurpleBlob 
> icon really stood out (unnaturally ) on the Dock and when Cmd-Tabbing.
>
> Good work!
>
> KDF
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>



From ecurtis at rgbdesignstudio.com  Tue Feb  1 18:13:08 2005
From: ecurtis at rgbdesignstudio.com (Eric Curtis)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 10:13:08 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] New Icon (was: Beta 4 & bundles)
In-Reply-To: <739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com>
	
	<6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net>
	<477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com>
	<1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org>
	<477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
Message-ID: <238a3db4bd8d3de72142e5a900508743@rgbdesignstudio.com>

Ditto. Love the new Icon.

Eric C



From justin at blaix.com  Tue Feb  1 18:15:43 2005
From: justin at blaix.com (Justin Blake)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:15:43 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] New Icon (was: Beta 4 & bundles)
In-Reply-To: <739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com>
	
	<6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net>
	<477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com>
	<1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org>
	<477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
Message-ID: <1726b0064c49e9119d13fce43004bd03@blaix.com>

On Feb 1, 2005, at 12:43 PM, Kim Friesen wrote:
>
> I really like the new icon on 1.1b4.  I found the previous PurpleBlob 
> icon really stood out (unnaturally ) on the Dock and when Cmd-Tabbing.

Agreed. I love the new icon.

- Justin



From wayne at larsen.st  Tue Feb  1 18:39:16 2005
From: wayne at larsen.st (Wayne Larsen)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 12:39:16 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Line Up/Down for Arrow Keys?
Message-ID: <93BE862A-7480-11D9-A931-000A95B3E0E2@larsen.st>

I love the new file chooser, however, is it possible for textmate to 
allow line up or line down to be used in place of the arrow keys for 
list navigation?  I'd love to do "Cmd-T Search String C-n C-n".  If I'm 
going to move my hand off to the arrow keys, I might as well just move 
it a little further and use the mouse...

If this is already possible, please enlighten me!

Thanks,
Wayne



From james at lazyatom.com  Tue Feb  1 19:52:29 2005
From: james at lazyatom.com (James Adam)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:52:29 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] ODB, FTP and external editors
Message-ID: <3ee7615ef047ef21e02daf9650f0ba95@lazyatom.com>

I just downloaded the new version of Cyberduck, and it looks like 
TextMate isn't prompting the ftp application to reupload the file after 
saving. I've tried this in Fugu and seen the same behaviour. 
SubEthaEdit works, so the issue would seem to like with TM.

I thought we had ODB support in this editor?



From factoryjoe at factorycity.net  Tue Feb  1 19:51:20 2005
From: factoryjoe at factorycity.net (Chris Messina)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:51:20 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] TextMate's Missing Snippets Palette
In-Reply-To: <85b6172d675bb78820b3e9122d73fcaa@imediatec.co.uk>
References: <41FDF1C4.2090809@factorycity.net>
	<85b6172d675bb78820b3e9122d73fcaa@imediatec.co.uk>
Message-ID: <41FFDDB8.90600@factorycity.net>

I would also like to be able to drag n' drop a snippet onto a selection 
and have the snippet wrap around my selection. Also, inline editing of 
the snippet (if you widened my mockup) would be cool (a la track name 
editing in iTunes).

Chris

Mats Persson wrote:

>
> I've thought about this idea, and I agree that it would be good to 
> have a sort of "Crib sheet" of available snippets within the current 
> mode, as when you have a lot of them - like me - their triggers tend 
> to get muddled up in my mind.
>
> Ideally it would follow Chris' second mock-up as it would be better to 
> work with and be a floating-on-top window.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Additionally, It would be great if you could have some text selected 
> in the main editor window and then just click the "New" (snippet) 
> button and have that code added as a snippet with a default name.
>
> Double-clicking on the snippet name in the window would open up the 
> snippet editor window.
>
> Just my 2 pence added.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Mats
>
> ----
> "TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
> - www.macromates.com -
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>______________________________________________________________________
>For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
>(threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
>http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>


-- 

Do the evolution. Get Firefox! 


Quote of the moment: /"Simplicity is in taking the elegant path. It is 
also a conscious choice? to achieve simplicity one must eschew 
complexity. Simple things must be simple."/ -- author unknown





From allan at macromates.com  Tue Feb  1 20:03:04 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 21:03:04 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] ODB, FTP and external editors
In-Reply-To: <3ee7615ef047ef21e02daf9650f0ba95@lazyatom.com>
References: <3ee7615ef047ef21e02daf9650f0ba95@lazyatom.com>
Message-ID: <299221b03d4f13be0c8bc13ef23983e6@macromates.com>

On Feb 1, 2005, at 20:52, James Adam wrote:

> I thought we had ODB support in this editor?

Yes, sorry. ODB was (unintentionally) broken for beta 4.

I'll probably release a fix shortly. Not entirely sure what the best 
way is to release such ?bug fixes?. I don't like to re-release stuff 
with changes and the same version number, OTOH I also do not like to 
make a new release just for one bug fix that only affects a fraction of 
the users (because of auto-update and that MacUpdate/VersionTracker 
wants to link to my latest beta).



From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Tue Feb  1 20:05:59 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 12:05:59 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] ODB, FTP and external editors
In-Reply-To: <3ee7615ef047ef21e02daf9650f0ba95@lazyatom.com>
References: <3ee7615ef047ef21e02daf9650f0ba95@lazyatom.com>
Message-ID: 

At 7:52 PM +0000 2/1/05, James Adam wrote:
>I just downloaded the new version of Cyberduck, and it looks like 
>TextMate isn't prompting the ftp application to reupload the file 
>after saving. I've tried this in Fugu and seen the same behaviour. 
>SubEthaEdit works, so the issue would seem to like with TM.
>
>I thought we had ODB support in this editor?

I am getting the same lack of function.  1.1b3 was working for 'edit 
on site' with Cyberduck, so maybe something broke in 1.1b4?

- Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Tue Feb  1 20:08:05 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 12:08:05 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] ODB, FTP and external editors
In-Reply-To: <299221b03d4f13be0c8bc13ef23983e6@macromates.com>
References: <3ee7615ef047ef21e02daf9650f0ba95@lazyatom.com>
	<299221b03d4f13be0c8bc13ef23983e6@macromates.com>
Message-ID: 

At 9:03 PM +0100 2/1/05, Allan Odgaard wrote:
>I'll probably release a fix shortly. Not entirely sure what the best 
>way is to release such "bug fixes". I don't like to re-release stuff 
>with changes and the same version number, OTOH I also do not like to 
>make a new release just for one bug fix that only affects a fraction 
>of the users (because of auto-update and that 
>MacUpdate/VersionTracker wants to link to my latest beta).

Maybe you could release a 'patch'?  That might be more trouble than 
it's worth...   - Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From blalor at bravo5.org  Tue Feb  1 20:20:24 2005
From: blalor at bravo5.org (Brian Lalor)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:20:24 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] OS X Services
In-Reply-To: <727ee9859638af2346853591d2931359@rgbdesignstudio.com>
References: 
	<84aff9dbe26e385ef7685f659cdbfcb2@macromates.com>
	<727ee9859638af2346853591d2931359@rgbdesignstudio.com>
Message-ID: <4c33a851fca29731a15fd7e3a74e2747@bravo5.org>

On Feb 1, 2005, at 1:12 PM, Eric Curtis wrote:

> Perhaps I am doing something wrong put when I highlight a chunk of 
> text and execute the service nothing happens...
>
> Probably user error but what would it be?

Is it possible IceCoffee only works with standard Cocoa text areas 
(NSSomethingOrOther)?  TM's text area is home-grown.

-- 
    __   ____
   / /  / __/ Brian Lalor
  / _ \/__ \  blalor at bravo5.org
/_.__/____/  http://bravo5.org/


From james at lazyatom.com  Tue Feb  1 20:29:04 2005
From: james at lazyatom.com (James Adam)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 20:29:04 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Re: ODB, FTP and external editors
References: 
Message-ID: 

>> I'll probably release a fix shortly...
> Maybe you could release a 'patch'?  That might be more trouble than 
> it's worth...   - Eric

I guess it depends on how shortly you think shortly will be. Given it's 
a beta, users have got to expect things to go wrong :) It can be easy 
to forget this, given how each incremental beta seems to add new 
features everyone wants to try :)

I'm loving the latest icon by the way - it's very classy.




From chris at m-audio.com  Tue Feb  1 20:31:51 2005
From: chris at m-audio.com (Chris Thomas)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 12:31:51 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Editing a graphic in PS
In-Reply-To: <08739b991171b8c35a3c563306c81324@macromates.com>
References: 
	<08739b991171b8c35a3c563306c81324@macromates.com>
Message-ID: 


On Jan 31, 2005, at 2:52 PM, Allan Odgaard wrote:

>> Another thing I would most likely do is add a reveal in pathfinder as 
>> I do not use the finder much.
>
> I was under the impression that Path Finder would ?replace? the 
> functionality, and it would then work for this, since I do in fact use 
> NSWorkspace to ?reveal? the file, and not Finder (so Path Finder 
> should intercept this).

The Path Finder developers recommend coexistence with the Finder, 
because they can't guarantee 100% compatibility. There are a lot of 
apps dependent on particular Finder features, it seems.

Chris



From justin at blaix.com  Tue Feb  1 20:34:32 2005
From: justin at blaix.com (Justin Blake)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:34:32 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] ODB, FTP and external editors
In-Reply-To: 
References: <3ee7615ef047ef21e02daf9650f0ba95@lazyatom.com>
	<299221b03d4f13be0c8bc13ef23983e6@macromates.com>
	
Message-ID: <86b3fae2db59ba2d62b42f39acb60eab@blaix.com>

On Feb 1, 2005, at 3:08 PM, Eric Hsu wrote:

> At 9:03 PM +0100 2/1/05, Allan Odgaard wrote:
>> I'll probably release a fix shortly. Not entirely sure what the best 
>> way is to release such "bug fixes". I don't like to re-release stuff 
>> with changes and the same version number, OTOH I also do not like to 
>> make a new release just for one bug fix that only affects a fraction 
>> of the users (because of auto-update and that 
>> MacUpdate/VersionTracker wants to link to my latest beta).
>
> Maybe you could release a 'patch'?  That might be more trouble than 
> it's worth...   - Eric
>

Or maybe offer something like "nightly builds." So people can go beyond 
the beta versions to get the latest greatest bleeding edge version.

But as Eric said, probably more trouble than it's worth.

- Justin



From bmiller at luther.edu  Tue Feb  1 21:11:27 2005
From: bmiller at luther.edu (Brad Miller)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:11:27 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] ODB, FTP and external editors
In-Reply-To: <86b3fae2db59ba2d62b42f39acb60eab@blaix.com>
References: <3ee7615ef047ef21e02daf9650f0ba95@lazyatom.com>
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over on NetNewsWire, Brent does both private and public beta releases.  
The public one's go to version tracker etc. but the private ones are 
only available to people on the mailing list, including a link.  Not 
sure how the autoupdate would adapt. I suppose you could have 
preferences like Quicksilver...

I hope you can release a patch for this one since it severely limits my 
ability to get things done.

On Feb 1, 2005, at 2:34 PM, Justin Blake wrote:

> On Feb 1, 2005, at 3:08 PM, Eric Hsu wrote:
>
>> At 9:03 PM +0100 2/1/05, Allan Odgaard wrote:
>>> I'll probably release a fix shortly. Not entirely sure what the best 
>>> way is to release such "bug fixes". I don't like to re-release stuff 
>>> with changes and the same version number, OTOH I also do not like to 
>>> make a new release just for one bug fix that only affects a fraction 
>>> of the users (because of auto-update and that 
>>> MacUpdate/VersionTracker wants to link to my latest beta).
>>
>> Maybe you could release a 'patch'?  That might be more trouble than 
>> it's worth...   - Eric
>>
>
> Or maybe offer something like "nightly builds." So people can go 
> beyond the beta versions to get the latest greatest bleeding edge 
> version.
>
> But as Eric said, probably more trouble than it's worth.
>
> - Justin
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>
Brad Miller, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor, Computer Science
Luther College
http://www.cs.luther.edu/~bmiller
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From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Tue Feb  1 21:20:56 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:20:56 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] ODB, FTP and external editors
In-Reply-To: <6a9b847834f731bcfa1cf3d6ebddc152@luther.edu>
References: <3ee7615ef047ef21e02daf9650f0ba95@lazyatom.com>
	<299221b03d4f13be0c8bc13ef23983e6@macromates.com>
	
	<86b3fae2db59ba2d62b42f39acb60eab@blaix.com>
	<6a9b847834f731bcfa1cf3d6ebddc152@luther.edu>
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At 3:11 PM -0600 2/1/05, Brad Miller wrote:
>I hope you can release a patch for this one since it severely limits 
>my ability to get things done.

We can always downgrade to 1.1b3... which I probably will do until 
the next beta.

I myself am more inconvenienced by the malfunction of Services... it 
was really helping Pages be more of a text processor. But now, saving 
and closing in TM doesn't seem to send the edited text back to the 
calling program (in this case Pages), which then hangs waiting.

best, Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From allan at macromates.com  Tue Feb  1 21:27:14 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:27:14 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] ODB, FTP and external editors
In-Reply-To: 
References: <3ee7615ef047ef21e02daf9650f0ba95@lazyatom.com>
	<299221b03d4f13be0c8bc13ef23983e6@macromates.com>
	
	<86b3fae2db59ba2d62b42f39acb60eab@blaix.com>
	<6a9b847834f731bcfa1cf3d6ebddc152@luther.edu>
	
Message-ID: 

On Feb 1, 2005, at 22:20, Eric Hsu wrote:

> I myself am more inconvenienced by the malfunction of Services... it 
> was really helping Pages be more of a text processor. But now, saving 
> and closing in TM doesn't seem to send the edited text back to the 
> calling program (in this case Pages), which then hangs waiting.

Ah, hadn't realized it, but that's actually the same problem (since the 
service also use the external editor API).



From allan at macromates.com  Tue Feb  1 21:31:19 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:31:19 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] ODB, FTP and external editors
In-Reply-To: <6a9b847834f731bcfa1cf3d6ebddc152@luther.edu>
References: <3ee7615ef047ef21e02daf9650f0ba95@lazyatom.com>
	<299221b03d4f13be0c8bc13ef23983e6@macromates.com>
	
	<86b3fae2db59ba2d62b42f39acb60eab@blaix.com>
	<6a9b847834f731bcfa1cf3d6ebddc152@luther.edu>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 1, 2005, at 22:11, Brad Miller wrote:

> over on NetNewsWire, Brent does both private and public beta releases. 
>  The public one's go to version tracker etc. but the private ones are 
> only available to people on the mailing list, including a link.  Not 
> sure how the autoupdate would adapt. I suppose you could have 
> preferences like Quicksilver...

What I probably could do was have a select few which gets the beta 
before others, and they have maybe 8 hours to report problems. But most 
likely that wouldn't really work, and so far the betas seems to mostly 
work for the majority, and there's always the ability to downgrade (all 
previous versions remain online).

If I add another stage, like nightly builds or private betas, I should 
probably instead bump the current betas to minors. Maybe then ADC news 
would also carry new releases as news...

The main reason I do betas as betas is because the features which debut 
in these are unlikely to be ?complete?.

> I hope you can release a patch for this one since it severely limits 
> my ability to get things done.

Yes, when I get back to coding it's probably the first I'll look at. 
But as Eric said, you can always downgrade. All previous versions 
remain online.



From allan at macromates.com  Tue Feb  1 21:42:37 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:42:37 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] esc auto-complete?
In-Reply-To: <1ba8c86dc426564ef36586533a3b8713@helvector.org>
References: <1ba8c86dc426564ef36586533a3b8713@helvector.org>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 1, 2005, at 18:47, Simon Gregory wrote:

> I'm trying to add a few snippets to the Actionscript bundle to include 
> some of the shortcuts that Actionscript developers would be used to 
> after coding in Flash.

Great, let me know if you want access to the repository. The current 
ActionScript bundle has no maintainer (but is by Rob Bevan).

> I've got the tab completion working fine but I'm used to pressing esc 
> then the key combination to invoke an auto complete and was hoping 
> that someone could tell me how to get this working.

That's not currently possible, other than recoding a macro that does 
'tab' and bind that to the escape key.

> If you've time then an explanation of Activation: Key Equivalent

This is a _single_ key (with optional modifiers).

> and Activation: Input Pattern would also be useful as I can't find any 
> documentation.

Input pattern is not working yet. What it will be is a non-greedy 
regular expression matched against the typed input. Mainly useful for 
having macros executed on certain editing patterns. For example the XML 
bundle has a snippet that expands to: ?<$1>?. Here one could match 
?expansion of this snippet?, ?giving the tag a name?, ?pressing return 
inside the tag (w/o typing anything)?. The macro would then add indent 
and move the end tag down an extra line.

This coupled with the upcoming scope system (which will be able to 
limit the activation methods to specific language elements) will allow 
for some pretty neat stuff ;)



From allan at macromates.com  Tue Feb  1 21:46:29 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:46:29 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Line Up/Down for Arrow Keys?
In-Reply-To: <93BE862A-7480-11D9-A931-000A95B3E0E2@larsen.st>
References: <93BE862A-7480-11D9-A931-000A95B3E0E2@larsen.st>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 1, 2005, at 19:39, Wayne Larsen wrote:

> I love the new file chooser, however, is it possible for textmate to 
> allow line up or line down to be used in place of the arrow keys for 
> list navigation? [...]

I'll look into it -- it should use the standard key bindings, but 
unfortunately the way I currently pull off the thing about moving the 
selection in the inactive table view while the search string has focus, 
doesn't play well with the normal event system :/



From allan at macromates.com  Tue Feb  1 21:47:33 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:47:33 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Editing a graphic in PS
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<08739b991171b8c35a3c563306c81324@macromates.com>
	
	
	
Message-ID: <7a34871ca7b41e2ec21d363468d09c24@macromates.com>

On Feb 1, 2005, at 0:58, Eric Curtis wrote:

> I thought it was pulling the name and that Finder was what would open 
> it, which it did in a way. Might I suggest changing it to:
>
> Open file with Default App

I took the title from Xcode. But I'll check if Launch Services could 
give me the name of the application that will actually open the file. 
That would be very nice.



From robbevan at xpt.com  Tue Feb  1 21:52:53 2005
From: robbevan at xpt.com (Rob Bevan)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 21:52:53 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] ActionScript bundle
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1ba8c86dc426564ef36586533a3b8713@helvector.org>
	
Message-ID: <9FB84FB2-749B-11D9-92D9-00039396DAC0@xpt.com>


On 1 Feb 2005, at 21:42, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> Great, let me know if you want access to the repository. The current 
> ActionScript bundle has no maintainer (but is by Rob Bevan).

Hi Allan,

Sorry, I've been meaning to pick this up again. I have a few snippets 
and commands to add to the bundle. If you let me have access I'll do 
this soon (and maybe coordinate with Simon).

Cheers,
Rob



From allan at macromates.com  Tue Feb  1 21:55:17 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:55:17 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] pdfLaTeX, b4
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1059af41f19e5501c1ebdeee8a7aba5f@macromates.com>

On Feb 1, 2005, at 19:01, Robert Ullrey wrote:

> Quick question though. Now I would like to use XeLateX as my 
> typesetting engine so I can change fonts through fontspec. How can I 
> change the bundle command in PDF LateX to use XeLateX ($xelatex  
> [file] in the terminal)?

Select Automation -> Run Command -> Edit Commands?

Here you'll find LaTeX / PDF LaTeX which is the current command. 
Duplicate it and make your changes. It's a lot of lines, but the 
essense is the pdflatex which output is piped into perl, that makes the 
errors HTML anchors.

Ask if there's anything.

> P.S., It would also be nice to be able to use ConTeXt ($texexec)

It shouldn't be a problem to modify the command to use ConTeXt instead.



From allan at macromates.com  Tue Feb  1 21:58:32 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:58:32 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] ActionScript bundle
In-Reply-To: <9FB84FB2-749B-11D9-92D9-00039396DAC0@xpt.com>
References: <1ba8c86dc426564ef36586533a3b8713@helvector.org>
	
	<9FB84FB2-749B-11D9-92D9-00039396DAC0@xpt.com>
Message-ID: <9bb570ab93548d471c013278eeae51eb@macromates.com>

On Feb 1, 2005, at 22:52, Rob Bevan wrote:

> Sorry, I've been meaning to pick this up again. I have a few snippets 
> and commands to add to the bundle. If you let me have access I'll do 
> this soon (and maybe coordinate with Simon).

Done!



From allan at macromates.com  Tue Feb  1 22:00:29 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:00:29 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] OS X Services
In-Reply-To: <727ee9859638af2346853591d2931359@rgbdesignstudio.com>
References: 
	<84aff9dbe26e385ef7685f659cdbfcb2@macromates.com>
	<727ee9859638af2346853591d2931359@rgbdesignstudio.com>
Message-ID: <5d65196ad5d6f66a0020658d8bfb25e8@macromates.com>

On Feb 1, 2005, at 19:12, Eric Curtis wrote:

> Perhaps I am doing something wrong put when I highlight a chunk of 
> text and execute the service nothing happens...

This must be the missing ODB editor support in beta 4.



From allan at macromates.com  Tue Feb  1 22:01:58 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:01:58 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] TextMate's Missing Snippets Palette
In-Reply-To: <41FFDDB8.90600@factorycity.net>
References: <41FDF1C4.2090809@factorycity.net>
	<85b6172d675bb78820b3e9122d73fcaa@imediatec.co.uk>
	<41FFDDB8.90600@factorycity.net>
Message-ID: <7d1ba8bbc17e9e74091500a4cec84643@macromates.com>

On Feb 1, 2005, at 20:51, Chris Messina wrote:

> I would also like to be able to drag n' drop a snippet onto a 
> selection and have the snippet wrap around my selection.

Ehm... how? Shouldn't the snippet then somehow specify where the 
selection should go, and if so, would this be any different than what 
you currently can do, other than the way you activate it?



From allan at macromates.com  Tue Feb  1 22:07:11 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:07:11 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] TextMate's Missing Snippets Palette
In-Reply-To: <14238478bc6735b2eeaf3cbc7abb6d16@colorado.edu>
References: <41FDF1C4.2090809@factorycity.net>
	<14238478bc6735b2eeaf3cbc7abb6d16@colorado.edu>
Message-ID: <6e556256733582045ea04f6677a1489b@macromates.com>

On Jan 31, 2005, at 16:05, Jon Raphaelson wrote:

> Actually, some sort of floating palette with all of the current 
> languages stuff (commands, snippets, macros) would be handy.

Okay -- but I'd prefer not to spend any time on this before after 1.1. 
And I'm btw changing my plans a little, so 1.1 will be in a few weeks, 
and I'll just do 5-10 1.1.x releases instead of having 1.1 in beta for 
half a year ;)

Hopefully no-one feels cheated that some of the stuff I've promised for 
1.1 then will be 1.1.x instead.



From cryo at cyanite.org  Tue Feb  1 22:18:27 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:18:27 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] pdfLaTeX, b4
In-Reply-To: 
References: <563df91ad0bac4fd2c4667726197bf9a@cyanite.org>
	
	<5EE54FAE-7454-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net>
	
Message-ID: <43fca7a105bc5f45bf2a1ad1fcfc428c@cyanite.org>

On 1. feb 2005, at 14:35, Brad Miller wrote:

> The latest unstable version of tetex from the fink archive appears to 
> be several versions out of date [...].

Yes, in fact the teTeX package doesn't have the newest Web2C TeX 
version at all no matter what distro you pick. The i-Installer one is a 
mixture of teTeX (for the foundation) and a binary distro called 
TeX-live for the programs (tex, pdftex, dvips etc.). teTeX is the most 
popular package for *nix as far as I am aware, so it's rather odd that 
it's behind like this. And too bad. But at least it can be worked 
around on the mac.

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From allan at macromates.com  Tue Feb  1 22:17:51 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:17:51 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Inputs in Text Window
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <03fac328adafa26e4d9eb5f52aa2b3c3@macromates.com>

On Jan 27, 2005, at 17:26, Mr. Robert Ullrey wrote:

> [...] I am still frustrated with changing inputs (e.g., greek) as well
> as not being able to use input engines like "Spell Checker". Ant
> estimate on this bug fix?

Well, the best I can do is say that in half a year, I expect 90% of the 
things reported since release should have been taken care of ;)

I know it's not of much help, but the more exact estimate I give, the 
more chance there is that it won't be correct.



From cryo at cyanite.org  Tue Feb  1 22:21:31 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:21:31 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] New Icon (was: Beta 4 & bundles)
In-Reply-To: <739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com>
	
	<6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net>
	<477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com>
	<1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org>
	<477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
Message-ID: 

On 1. feb 2005, at 18:43, Kim Friesen wrote:

> I really like the new icon on 1.1b4.  I found the previous PurpleBlob 
> icon really stood out (unnaturally ) on the Dock and when Cmd-Tabbing.

Good... but Kim, please heed the following next time:
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate

..and threading was indeed destroyed in this case :-).  Although...  
the universe seems ok so far, from my point of view.

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From ben at incomumdesign.com  Tue Feb  1 22:22:04 2005
From: ben at incomumdesign.com (Ben Jackson)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 20:22:04 -0200
Subject: [TxMt] GREP Weirdness
Message-ID: <4200010C.2020001@incomumdesign.com>

Hi all,

Pleased to join the list. I'm excited about the potential of this software.

So GREP is acting up... when I search
^\s*(?:\w+ +?)+.+$
TextMate crashes without warning. This string works fine in 
TextWrangler/BBEdit.

Some other strings have behaved unexpectedly. Is this a known issue? 
Also, the program crashes if there are errors in the GREP syntax. 
Without highlighting, these are not easy to avoid (maybe one for B5).

-- 
Ben Jackson
Diretor de Desenvolvimento
INCOMUM Design & Conceito

+55 (21) 9127-2819
ben at incomumdesign.com
http://www.incomumdesign.com



From cryo at cyanite.org  Tue Feb  1 22:24:54 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:24:54 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Line Up/Down for Arrow Keys?
In-Reply-To: <93BE862A-7480-11D9-A931-000A95B3E0E2@larsen.st>
References: <93BE862A-7480-11D9-A931-000A95B3E0E2@larsen.st>
Message-ID: <613fb4bd857d1a0179c8a6dc6c59e2e5@cyanite.org>

On 1. feb 2005, at 19:39, Wayne Larsen wrote:

> I love the new file chooser, however, is it possible for textmate to 
> allow line up or line down to be used in place of the arrow keys for 
> list navigation?  I'd love to do "Cmd-T Search String C-n C-n".  If 
> I'm going to move my hand off to the arrow keys, I might as well just 
> move it a little further and use the mouse...

Unless you are super skilled with a mouse, I would still expect 
pressing one key to be faster than moving further, grabbing mouse, 
moving cursor and clicking :-p.

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From cryo at cyanite.org  Tue Feb  1 22:30:37 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:30:37 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] GREP Weirdness
In-Reply-To: <4200010C.2020001@incomumdesign.com>
References: <4200010C.2020001@incomumdesign.com>
Message-ID: 

On 1. feb 2005, at 23:22, Ben Jackson wrote:

> So GREP is acting up... when I search
> ^\s*(?:\w+ +?)+.+$
> TextMate crashes without warning. This string works fine in 
> TextWrangler/BBEdit.

I get the same, although it only crashes if the pattern actually 
matches something, it seems :-p.

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From wayne at larsen.st  Tue Feb  1 22:36:13 2005
From: wayne at larsen.st (Wayne Larsen)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:36:13 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Line Up/Down for Arrow Keys?
In-Reply-To: <613fb4bd857d1a0179c8a6dc6c59e2e5@cyanite.org>
References: <93BE862A-7480-11D9-A931-000A95B3E0E2@larsen.st>
	<613fb4bd857d1a0179c8a6dc6c59e2e5@cyanite.org>
Message-ID: 


On 1-Feb-05, at 3:46 PM, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> I'll look into it -- it should use the standard key bindings, but 
> unfortunately the way I currently pull off the thing about moving the 
> selection in the inactive table view while the search string has 
> focus, doesn't play well with the normal event system :/

Thanks.  It would be great if that could be extended throughout the 
system -- for example navigation in the drawer (it is unfortunate that 
OSX as a whole does not do this -- it does not work in Finder windows 
for example).


On 1-Feb-05, at 4:24 PM, Sune Foldager wrote:

> Unless you are super skilled with a mouse, I would still expect 
> pressing one key to be faster than moving further, grabbing mouse, 
> moving cursor and clicking :-p.
>
Very true -- just a little exaggeration on my part to try to make my 
request seem more important.... :)

Wayne



From robert_ullrey at mac.com  Tue Feb  1 22:51:34 2005
From: robert_ullrey at mac.com (Mr. Robert Ullrey)
Date: Tue,  1 Feb 2005 14:51:34 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Inputs in Text Window
In-Reply-To: <03fac328adafa26e4d9eb5f52aa2b3c3@macromates.com>
Message-ID: 

*********************************************************************
Allan Odgaard wrote on [Tuesday, February 1, 2005 +0100]


> > [...] I am still frustrated with changing inputs (e.g., greek) as
well
> > as not being able to use input engines like "Spell Checker". Ant
> > estimate on this bug fix?
> 
> Well, the best I can do is say that in half a year, I expect 90% of
the 
> things reported since release should have been taken care of ;)
> 
> I know it's not of much help, but the more exact estimate I give, the 
> more chance there is that it won't be correct.

No problem. Just wanted to keep it on the radar. 

Thanks
Robert



From chris at cjack.com  Tue Feb  1 23:12:53 2005
From: chris at cjack.com (Chris Thomas)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:12:53 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] no-frills svn status for b4
Message-ID: 

WorkingDir=`pwd`
export WorkingDir
echo 'Subversion status'
echo '
'
echo ''
echo $WorkingDir
echo '
'
svn status | \
perl -pe 's/(.*?)(\s+)(.*)\n/$1<\/b> $3<\/a>
/'

Show as HTML.


From cryo at cyanite.org  Tue Feb  1 23:28:26 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 00:28:26 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Making pretty pdf's with LaTeX
Message-ID: <3ee5775a65e39e7208485994e384f1e5@cyanite.org>

Now that it seems we all need to use the i-Installer TeX distro in 
order to play nicely with TextMate, I'd like to recomend people to 
install the TeX CM-Super package also found with i-Installer. This 
basically makes pdflatex (and dvips etc.) store Type-1 fonts in the 
created pdf's and ps's, instead of on-demand created bitmap fonts from 
metafont sources (which is default).

True those bitmap fonts are usually high-DPI (sometimes 600), but
a) Most viewers on X11 _hate_ bitmap fonts, and display a crappy result 
even for 600dpi fonts.
b) When you zoom, you see the edges starting to show.
c) Vektor fonts are _always_ preferable IMO, and might even take up 
less space :-).

Just install the package and it will be used automatically. Note: It's 
a rather big download.

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From robert_ullrey at mac.com  Tue Feb  1 23:39:05 2005
From: robert_ullrey at mac.com (Mr. Robert Ullrey)
Date: Tue,  1 Feb 2005 15:39:05 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] pdfLaTeX, b4
In-Reply-To: <1059af41f19e5501c1ebdeee8a7aba5f@macromates.com>
Message-ID: 

Thanks Allan, I thought that was how to go about making a change. I have
ConTeXt working to produce a beautiful pdf. However, it does not load up
in Shubert's plugin... yet. I do however get the log file. I'll keep
playing with it. 

As for XeLaTeX, it is still using Web2c 7.5.2 so it does not work. I
have a letter in to NRSI (the developers) to see if they plan on
updating soon. XeLaTeX provides great type functionality so it will be
a joy to use in TextMate. 


Cheers,
Robert






From allan at macromates.com  Wed Feb  2 00:02:23 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 01:02:23 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] pdfLaTeX, b4
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

On Feb 2, 2005, at 0:39, Mr. Robert Ullrey wrote:

> [...] However, it does not load up in Shubert's plugin...

You need to have the web-view reload the page, but with the PDF as URL. 
I did this in the PDF LaTeX command by echo'ing an  tag.

I assume it could also be done with JavaScript.

Btw: a nice feature of the plugin is that one can provide arguments, 
for example the starting page. Unfortunately there is no way to get the 
page number currently displayed by the plugin, I've written the author 
trying to persuade him to let it remember the page if it's given a 
file-id argument (so it'd just store the current page in the programs 
defaults using the file-id as key) -- but so far I haven't been 
successful.

> As for XeLaTeX, it is still using Web2c 7.5.2 so it does not work.

The current requirement of 7.5.3 was only because I was unaware that 
the options I used was for the latest build. I _think_ that instead of 
-halt-on-error one can use -interaction batchmode (though I have never 
really understood these different modes). Working directory was just to 
not clutter the folder containing the .tex file and jobtitle because I 
generate unique names for each run (and delete the temporary files 
after 30 seconds), the reason for this was that initially I had the 
command just pdflatex the current buffer (stdin) instead of working on 
an actual file (so one could preview latex w/o creating a file, like 
with HTML).



From allan at macromates.com  Wed Feb  2 00:06:20 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 01:06:20 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] GREP Weirdness
In-Reply-To: <4200010C.2020001@incomumdesign.com>
References: <4200010C.2020001@incomumdesign.com>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 1, 2005, at 23:22, Ben Jackson wrote:

> Pleased to join the list. I'm excited about the potential of this 
> software.

Welcome to the list, I think you are actually subscriber #300! No 
wonder the list has been a little busy lately ;)

> So GREP is acting up... when I search
> ^\s*(?:\w+ +?)+.+$
> TextMate crashes without warning.

I will look into this, thanks for reporting it!

> Some other strings have behaved unexpectedly. Is this a known issue?

I'm aware of one bug, if you give a pattern that does repeat on 
?nothing? (e.g. ?()*?) it will go into infinite loop (repeating nothing 
until the text has been exhausted, which it never will be).



From cryo at cyanite.org  Wed Feb  2 00:10:21 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 01:10:21 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] IRC channel: #textmate on freenode.net
Message-ID: <8a1259705bc2ad87a365aacb363c17ef@cyanite.org>

I have arranged for an IRC channel to be set up for TextMate 
discussions of any sort. I created it on freenode.net, which is usually 
for open-source projects, but the requirements fit the purpose I had in 
mind well enough.

A list of IRC servers for this network can be found here: 
http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml
..and the channel is called, of course, #textmate

Hope to see some people there soon :-).

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From allan at macromates.com  Wed Feb  2 00:19:02 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 01:19:02 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] IRC channel: #textmate on freenode.net
In-Reply-To: <8a1259705bc2ad87a365aacb363c17ef@cyanite.org>
References: <8a1259705bc2ad87a365aacb363c17ef@cyanite.org>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 2, 2005, at 1:10, Sune Foldager wrote:

> I have arranged for an IRC channel to be set up for TextMate 
> discussions of any sort. [...]

And if you need an IRC program, I think most use Colloquy [1]

[1] http://colloquy.info/downloads.html



From fredb7 at starflam.com  Wed Feb  2 01:40:21 2005
From: fredb7 at starflam.com (Fred B.)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 02:40:21 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] OS X Services
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<84aff9dbe26e385ef7685f659cdbfcb2@macromates.com>
	
Message-ID: 

Funny you wrote this today.
I'm long time IceCoffee user, I use it to launch url in plain text  
documents by command clicking on them.
Every time I try it in TM, I remember it doesn't work and plan to write 
about it, but forget.
Today I wrote the email and saw yours just before sending it... ;)

So, +1.

--
Fred

On 1 f?vr. 05, at 19:11, Eric Curtis wrote:

> As my previous email suggested I am currently playing with Apple 
> Services and I ran across an intriguing program that does not seem to 
> work 100% in TM.
>
> The program is IceCoffee and it adds a service menu to the menu bar 
> and contextual menu. However the contextual menu does not appear in 
> TM. Does anyone have this working or is it just a shortcoming of the 
> program?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric
>
> PS. the url for checking it out is:
>
> http://web.sabi.net/nriley/software/
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>



From fredb7 at starflam.com  Wed Feb  2 01:55:42 2005
From: fredb7 at starflam.com (Fred B.)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 02:55:42 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] OS X Services
In-Reply-To: <5d65196ad5d6f66a0020658d8bfb25e8@macromates.com>
References: 
	<84aff9dbe26e385ef7685f659cdbfcb2@macromates.com>
	<727ee9859638af2346853591d2931359@rgbdesignstudio.com>
	<5d65196ad5d6f66a0020658d8bfb25e8@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <6a92b4f0645ddf4130c40bba689fd7d6@starflam.com>


On 1 f?vr. 05, at 23:00, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 1, 2005, at 19:12, Eric Curtis wrote:
>
>> Perhaps I am doing something wrong put when I highlight a chunk of 
>> text and execute the service nothing happens...
>
> This must be the missing ODB editor support in beta 4.
>
Sorry I didn't notice your answer before my first mail.

It doesn't work in b3, so this must be something else.
AFAIK, it never worked in TM.



From fredb7 at starflam.com  Wed Feb  2 01:57:24 2005
From: fredb7 at starflam.com (Fred B.)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 02:57:24 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Small Rename bug
Message-ID: <820a062250c30a821609561934a57b0d@starflam.com>

While creating a new file in TM, I accidently typed a capital letter.
After,  it was impossible to change it with "rename"  (error beep). I 
guess it's because it's the same name, only with different 
capitalization...

--
Fred



From allan at macromates.com  Wed Feb  2 02:00:14 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 03:00:14 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Small Rename bug
In-Reply-To: <820a062250c30a821609561934a57b0d@starflam.com>
References: <820a062250c30a821609561934a57b0d@starflam.com>
Message-ID: <81b647a367a439e6f7c49b9d058f007e@macromates.com>

On Feb 2, 2005, at 2:57, Fred B. wrote:

> While creating a new file in TM, I accidently typed a capital letter.
> After,  it was impossible to change it with "rename"  (error beep). I 
> guess it's because it's the same name, only with different 
> capitalization...

Yes, actually this is a system problem -- previously it worked fine, 
then I changed to NSWorkspace so that Finder would correctly update, 
and NSWorkspace fails for case changes only :/

I should fall back on my old code when the strings only differ in case.



From allan at macromates.com  Wed Feb  2 02:03:53 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 03:03:53 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] OS X Services
In-Reply-To: <6a92b4f0645ddf4130c40bba689fd7d6@starflam.com>
References: 
	<84aff9dbe26e385ef7685f659cdbfcb2@macromates.com>
	<727ee9859638af2346853591d2931359@rgbdesignstudio.com>
	<5d65196ad5d6f66a0020658d8bfb25e8@macromates.com>
	<6a92b4f0645ddf4130c40bba689fd7d6@starflam.com>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 2, 2005, at 2:55, Fred B. wrote:

>>> Perhaps I am doing something wrong put when I highlight a chunk of 
>>> text and execute the service nothing happens...
>> This must be the missing ODB editor support in beta 4.
> Sorry I didn't notice your answer before my first mail.
>
> It doesn't work in b3, so this must be something else.
> AFAIK, it never worked in TM.

I thought it was the TextMate service. With regard to ICeCoffEE, this 
seems to be an NSTextView patch, so as Brian said, this won't work with 
TextMate.

I haven't looked at the functionality it provides, but I should allow 
commands to appear in the context menu (I think this has even been 
requested ;) ), that way we could probably re-create the functionality 
of this patch.

For now, to get sort of a context menu with commands, just give all the 
commands the same hotkey, then pressing this key will show a context 
menu.



From factoryjoe at factorycity.net  Wed Feb  2 02:21:04 2005
From: factoryjoe at factorycity.net (Chris Messina)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 18:21:04 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] TextMate's Missing Snippets Palette
In-Reply-To: <7d1ba8bbc17e9e74091500a4cec84643@macromates.com>
References: <41FDF1C4.2090809@factorycity.net>	<85b6172d675bb78820b3e9122d73fcaa@imediatec.co.uk>	<41FFDDB8.90600@factorycity.net>
	<7d1ba8bbc17e9e74091500a4cec84643@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <42003910.1060501@factorycity.net>

It's probably no different than how it's currently done, except, again, 
with a floating palette, I could drag n' drop a snippet ONTO a 
selection, rather than select the snippet from a flyout to be applied to 
my selected text.

This would have great use, for example, with your new "append to each 
line" command. I could drag n' drop an "
  • echo $TM_SELECTED_TEXT
    • " 
snippet and have it apply to each line.

Chris


Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 1, 2005, at 20:51, Chris Messina wrote:
>
>> I would also like to be able to drag n' drop a snippet onto a 
>> selection and have the snippet wrap around my selection.
>
>
> Ehm... how? Shouldn't the snippet then somehow specify where the 
> selection should go, and if so, would this be any different than what 
> you currently can do, other than the way you activate it?
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate



-- 

Do the evolution. Get Firefox! 


Quote of the moment: /"Simplicity is in taking the elegant path. It is 
also a conscious choice? to achieve simplicity one must eschew 
complexity. Simple things must be simple."/ -- author unknown





From juananorga at gmail.com  Wed Feb  2 03:41:48 2005
From: juananorga at gmail.com (Juan Anorga)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:41:48 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] New Icon (was: Beta 4 & bundles)
In-Reply-To: 
References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com>
	
	<6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net>
	<477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com>
	<1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org>
	<477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
	
Message-ID: <828d7fd3050201194153811aea@mail.gmail.com>

I also agree that the new icon is an improvement over the previous.
But I must say that Ethan Dunham's icon on the wiki is really nice
too.

- juan


On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:21:31 +0100, Sune Foldager  wrote:
> On 1. feb 2005, at 18:43, Kim Friesen wrote:
> 
> > I really like the new icon on 1.1b4.  I found the previous PurpleBlob
> > icon really stood out (unnaturally ) on the Dock and when Cmd-Tabbing.
> 
> Good... but Kim, please heed the following next time:
> > For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> > (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> > http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
> 
> ..and threading was indeed destroyed in this case :-).  Although...
> the universe seems ok so far, from my point of view.
> 
> --
> Sune.
> :: the Cottage of Lost Play.
> :: http://cyanite.org
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>


From tobias at tobiasbuckell.com  Wed Feb  2 03:51:09 2005
From: tobias at tobiasbuckell.com (Tobias Buckell)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:51:09 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] rave
Message-ID: 

I'm truly and deeply impressed with this program. I'm working on my 
second novel, due to be turned in this September and am about 15,000 
words into it. Previously I used TextEdit to create each chapter, used 
omnioutliner to manage the chapter structure and create the outline and 
do rearranging, and then merged all the files into Word to finish it 
up, and then had to edit it.

I started the current novel using that system, then switched to a 
program called 'copywrite' which is cool, gave me some of the 
organization features combined with a basic text editor, but it's a bit 
slow when I click around quickly, and I hate having the program get in 
the way of my creative process/writing, which is why I started testing 
programs tonight to see if I could find something better. That and now 
that I've seen this program's project handling I'm deeply in love.

But there is just one thing I was hoping I could include on a feature 
request to spur me on. Full screen editing! The reason I purchased a 
copy of copywrite is that they said full screen editing would be 
coming, which is where I press a button and the program takes over the 
screen and I have nothing but text and a screen. This is the greatest 
procrastination breaker, and the only program besides copywrite that 
looks to have this feature is MacJournal. Right now I'm seriously 
considering drafting in MacJournal, then copy and pasting into 
Textmate, but man, I'd pay extra for the full screen feature, it's 
worth it.

Secondly, I've only played with this program for a few minutes, but I 
may be converting my Getting Things Done 'Next Actions' list to it and 
using documents to go to sync the plain folder text files for project 
management.

Best,

Tobias Buckell

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
By day I'm a mild-mannered tech worker, by night, a Science Fiction and 
Fantasy writer. You can find out more about my fiction at my website at 
http://www.tobiasbuckell.com where you can read my weblog, join my 
newsletter, find excerpts or free fiction, and find out where you can 
buy my fiction...

Coming Soon:
-novel "Crystal Rain" from Tor Books (2006)
-novel "Ragamuffin" from Tor Books (TBA)

You can find my short stories in these anthologies out now or coming 
soon:
-Anakoinosis - I Alien (April 2005)
-Necahual - So Long Been Dreaming: Postcolonial SF&F (Oct. 2004)
-Aerophilia - All Star Zeppelin Stories (Sep. 2004)
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



From ed at westernfreight.com  Wed Feb  2 03:57:55 2005
From: ed at westernfreight.com (Edmundo Ortega)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:57:55 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] New Icon (was: Beta 4 & bundles)
In-Reply-To: <828d7fd3050201194153811aea@mail.gmail.com>
References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com>
	
	<6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net>
	<477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com>
	<1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org>
	<477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
	
	<828d7fd3050201194153811aea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50495b870c64f7ddac5486000d35a080@westernfreight.com>

The new icon is good, but it's too close in theme to SubEthaEdit. So 
given the choice right now I think I'd have to go with Ethan's GEAR 
icon. It's simple, fits the OS X look, looks good at small sizes, and 
is well-designed and rendered.

My only criticism is that the use of the 'T' initial seems a bit trite. 
Nonetheless, the icon is bold and works well at small size, and I'm 
having difficulty thinking of anything else that would be better in 
that context.

The one upside of the original too-busy robot icon was that it 
effectively conveyed the automated yet friendly nature of TextMate.

Ed


On Feb 1, 2005, at 7:41 PM, Juan Anorga wrote:

> I also agree that the new icon is an improvement over the previous.
> But I must say that Ethan Dunham's icon on the wiki is really nice
> too.
>
> - juan
>



From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Wed Feb  2 04:04:32 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 20:04:32 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] New Icon (was: Beta 4 & bundles)
In-Reply-To: <50495b870c64f7ddac5486000d35a080@westernfreight.com>
References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com>
	
	<6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net>
	<477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com>
	<1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org>
	<477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
	
	<828d7fd3050201194153811aea@mail.gmail.com>
	<50495b870c64f7ddac5486000d35a080@westernfreight.com>
Message-ID: 

At 7:57 PM -0800 2/1/05, Edmundo Ortega wrote:
>The new icon is good, but it's too close in theme to SubEthaEdit. So 
>given the choice right now I think I'd have to go with Ethan's GEAR 
>icon. It's simple, fits the OS X look, looks good at small sizes, 
>and is well-designed and rendered.

As I once said, every can and does have an opinion about icons... and 
I am also currently using Ethan's purple gear.

Note that there is a free contextual menu that I use to copy my old 
icon from the last TM to the new TM here: 
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/11740

Also note, I had a fantasy of writing a little command that would 
switch icons for TM. But then real life intruded on my time...

best, Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From jonraphaelson at gmail.com  Wed Feb  2 04:52:31 2005
From: jonraphaelson at gmail.com (Jon Raphaelson)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 21:52:31 -0700
Subject: [TxMt] New Icon (was: Beta 4 & bundles)
In-Reply-To: <1726b0064c49e9119d13fce43004bd03@blaix.com>
References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com>
	
	<6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net>
	<477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com>
	<1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org>
	<477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
	<1726b0064c49e9119d13fce43004bd03@blaix.com>
Message-ID: <4399f102741e24a99754b08c949634f8@colorado.edu>

Wow - I didn't expect all that. I really appreciate the complements...
Whoo! I did good.

Jon

Jonathan Raphaelson				
University of Colorado at Boulder			
--

Home: 303-469-3442
Cell: 720-937-4372

jonathan.raphaelson at colorado.edu
jonraphaelson at gmail.com



From chris at m-audio.com  Wed Feb  2 05:01:56 2005
From: chris at m-audio.com (Chris Thomas)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 21:01:56 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] New Icon (was: Beta 4 & bundles)
In-Reply-To: 
References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com>
	
	<6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net>
	<477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com>
	<1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org>
	<477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
	
	<828d7fd3050201194153811aea@mail.gmail.com>
	<50495b870c64f7ddac5486000d35a080@westernfreight.com>
	
Message-ID: <168EA490-FE89-4FF4-9550-580B36EDB274@m-audio.com>



On Feb 1, 2005, at 8:04 PM, Eric Hsu wrote:

> At 7:57 PM -0800 2/1/05, Edmundo Ortega wrote:
>
>> The new icon is good, but it's too close in theme to SubEthaEdit. So 
>> given the choice right now I think I'd have to go with Ethan's GEAR 
>> icon. It's simple, fits the OS X look, looks good at small sizes, and 
>> is well-designed and rendered.
>>
>
> As I once said, every can and does have an opinion about icons... and 
> I am also currently using Ethan's purple gear.
>
> Note that there is a free contextual menu that I use to copy my old 
> icon from the last TM to the new TM here: 
> http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/11740
>
> Also note, I had a fantasy of writing a little command that would 
> switch icons for TM. But then real life intruded on my time...

I have to admit, I also thought about doing this, although I imagined 
it as merely an integrated graphical picker for Jon's six-flavor icons, 
so that you could choose your flavor. I like the b4 icon, though, quite 
a bit.

Chris



From torsten.becker at gmail.com  Wed Feb  2 12:04:24 2005
From: torsten.becker at gmail.com (Torsten Becker)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 13:04:24 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] IRC channel: #textmate on freenode.net
In-Reply-To: <8a1259705bc2ad87a365aacb363c17ef@cyanite.org>
References: <8a1259705bc2ad87a365aacb363c17ef@cyanite.org>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 01:10:21 +0100, Sune Foldager wrote:
> I have arranged for an IRC channel to be set up for TextMate
> discussions of any sort. I created it on freenode.net, which is usually
> for open-source projects, but the requirements fit the purpose I had in
> mind well enough.

nice, i have been in this channel in freenode some time but it was a
bit boring.  so this is better now.

i think it would be nice if bundle commits could get mirrored to irc
.. then there would be 3 ways of getting the info. :)

-- 
Torsten Becker (novaa on freenode)


From nemo at mechintosh.com  Wed Feb  2 14:53:31 2005
From: nemo at mechintosh.com (M Spreij)
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 15:53:31 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] rave
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <4200E96B.8020207@mechintosh.com>

Tobias Buckell wrote:
> But there is just one thing I was hoping I could include on a feature 
> request to spur me on. Full screen editing!

Hm! Very nice idea... now I'm wondering why more applications don't offer 
that, the only ones that come to mind are Photoshop, Timbuktu (and related), 
and games ofcourse..
Would be nice indeed to open a Project fullscreen, have the drawer to one 
side (where hiding it would just enlarge the editing area to 'cover' it), 
and a utilities bar at the top (just above the tabs) with 
macros/snippets/commands, syntax highlighting, etc..
I could be persuaded to make a mockup (though I'm no graphic artist so 
beware :-)

Regards,

     Martin


From simon.textmate.list at helvector.org  Wed Feb  2 15:18:26 2005
From: simon.textmate.list at helvector.org (Simon Gregory)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:18:26 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] ActionScript bundle
Message-ID: <808eab230eadba40f4de8a564e8c17e7@helvector.org>

>>  I have a few snippets
>> and commands to add to the bundle. If you let me have access I'll do
>> this soon (and maybe coordinate with Simon).
>
> Done!

I've completed all the usual key combo snippets found in flash and sent 
them through to Rob. Along with a quick class template.

Allan - thanks for the explanations of Activation: Key Equivalent and 
Activation: Input Pattern, I'm looking forward to seeing the input 
pattern in action.

cheers,
Simon



From max at machinate.org  Wed Feb  2 15:25:11 2005
From: max at machinate.org (max at machinate.org)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:25:11 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] web preview and PHP include_paths
Message-ID: 

Hello,
This is my first post to this list, so I hope it's ok. been using 
Texmate for web site development with PHP for a while now and love it. 
However, I always preview pages in Safari because of the limitations of 
the included web preview. With the new html output of the latest beta I 
was reminded again of it,  but found the same problems.

I think the issue of it closing when you change tabs has already been 
brought up, which is really annoying if you want to edit a css file, 
for example. Could its behaviour be that it always stays open. If you 
want to preview another page, it could then open as separate tab in the 
preview window. Only the selected tab need be automatically refreshed, 
but you could easily switch to your other previewed pages.

Another thing that I'm not sure if any one has mentioned is that when 
you pipe it through the PHP binary, require() and include() don't work 
when the files have a relative path to the script.
Any apache server env variables are also bypassed so you can't 
reference 'SCRIPT_URI' etc.
I don't really want to change every script to have absolute paths, as 
that becomes rather inflexible.
  would be glad to hear any solutions anyone might have.

thanks, max



From ed at westernfreight.com  Wed Feb  2 15:33:56 2005
From: ed at westernfreight.com (Edmundo Ortega)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 07:33:56 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] rave
In-Reply-To: <4200E96B.8020207@mechintosh.com>
References: 
	<4200E96B.8020207@mechintosh.com>
Message-ID: <268e6ec4a138e9444850f9407a052688@westernfreight.com>

Yeah, wow. I'm surprised this isn't more common. +1 for that feature.

On Feb 2, 2005, at 6:53 AM, M Spreij wrote:

> Tobias Buckell wrote:
>
> Hm! Very nice idea... now I'm wondering why more applications don't 
> offer that, the only ones that come to mind are Photoshop, Timbuktu 
> (and related), and games ofcourse..
> Would be nice indeed to open a Project fullscreen, have the drawer to 
> one side (where hiding it would just enlarge the editing area to 
> 'cover' it), and a utilities bar at the top (just above the tabs) with 
> macros/snippets/commands, syntax highlighting, etc..
> I could be persuaded to make a mockup (though I'm no graphic artist so 
> beware :-)
>
> Regards,
>
>     Martin



From pburleson at gmail.com  Wed Feb  2 15:36:19 2005
From: pburleson at gmail.com (Patrick Burleson)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:36:19 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] rave
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

Not to rain on TextMate's parade ( I use the thing all the freaking
time ), but I saw a program target a writers that I didn't see in your
list. Have you looked at Ulysses (http://www.blue-tec.com/ulysses/)?
It might do some of the things you want as well.

And I agree, a full screen feature would be great. Block out all that
crap I want to check in Firefox. :-)

Patrick


On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:51:09 -0500, Tobias Buckell
 wrote:
> I'm truly and deeply impressed with this program. I'm working on my
> second novel, due to be turned in this September and am about 15,000
> words into it. Previously I used TextEdit to create each chapter, used
> omnioutliner to manage the chapter structure and create the outline and
> do rearranging, and then merged all the files into Word to finish it
> up, and then had to edit it.
> 
> I started the current novel using that system, then switched to a
> program called 'copywrite' which is cool, gave me some of the
> organization features combined with a basic text editor, but it's a bit
> slow when I click around quickly, and I hate having the program get in
> the way of my creative process/writing, which is why I started testing
> programs tonight to see if I could find something better. That and now
> that I've seen this program's project handling I'm deeply in love.
> 
> But there is just one thing I was hoping I could include on a feature
> request to spur me on. Full screen editing! The reason I purchased a
> copy of copywrite is that they said full screen editing would be
> coming, which is where I press a button and the program takes over the
> screen and I have nothing but text and a screen. This is the greatest
> procrastination breaker, and the only program besides copywrite that
> looks to have this feature is MacJournal. Right now I'm seriously
> considering drafting in MacJournal, then copy and pasting into
> Textmate, but man, I'd pay extra for the full screen feature, it's
> worth it.
> 
> Secondly, I've only played with this program for a few minutes, but I
> may be converting my Getting Things Done 'Next Actions' list to it and
> using documents to go to sync the plain folder text files for project
> management.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Tobias Buckell
> 
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> By day I'm a mild-mannered tech worker, by night, a Science Fiction and
> Fantasy writer. You can find out more about my fiction at my website at
> http://www.tobiasbuckell.com where you can read my weblog, join my
> newsletter, find excerpts or free fiction, and find out where you can
> buy my fiction...
> 
> Coming Soon:
> -novel "Crystal Rain" from Tor Books (2006)
> -novel "Ragamuffin" from Tor Books (TBA)
> 
> You can find my short stories in these anthologies out now or coming
> soon:
> -Anakoinosis - I Alien (April 2005)
> -Necahual - So Long Been Dreaming: Postcolonial SF&F (Oct. 2004)
> -Aerophilia - All Star Zeppelin Stories (Sep. 2004)
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>


From pburleson at gmail.com  Wed Feb  2 15:39:19 2005
From: pburleson at gmail.com (Patrick Burleson)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:39:19 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] rave
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
Message-ID: 

Oh, I just realized that Ulysses has a fullscreen mode...you can tell
how much I've used it. :-)

Patrick


On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:36:19 -0500, Patrick Burleson  wrote:
> Not to rain on TextMate's parade ( I use the thing all the freaking
> time ), but I saw a program target a writers that I didn't see in your
> list. Have you looked at Ulysses (http://www.blue-tec.com/ulysses/)?
> It might do some of the things you want as well.
> 
> And I agree, a full screen feature would be great. Block out all that
> crap I want to check in Firefox. :-)
> 
> Patrick
> 
> 
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:51:09 -0500, Tobias Buckell
>  wrote:
> > I'm truly and deeply impressed with this program. I'm working on my
> > second novel, due to be turned in this September and am about 15,000
> > words into it. Previously I used TextEdit to create each chapter, used
> > omnioutliner to manage the chapter structure and create the outline and
> > do rearranging, and then merged all the files into Word to finish it
> > up, and then had to edit it.
> >
> > I started the current novel using that system, then switched to a
> > program called 'copywrite' which is cool, gave me some of the
> > organization features combined with a basic text editor, but it's a bit
> > slow when I click around quickly, and I hate having the program get in
> > the way of my creative process/writing, which is why I started testing
> > programs tonight to see if I could find something better. That and now
> > that I've seen this program's project handling I'm deeply in love.
> >
> > But there is just one thing I was hoping I could include on a feature
> > request to spur me on. Full screen editing! The reason I purchased a
> > copy of copywrite is that they said full screen editing would be
> > coming, which is where I press a button and the program takes over the
> > screen and I have nothing but text and a screen. This is the greatest
> > procrastination breaker, and the only program besides copywrite that
> > looks to have this feature is MacJournal. Right now I'm seriously
> > considering drafting in MacJournal, then copy and pasting into
> > Textmate, but man, I'd pay extra for the full screen feature, it's
> > worth it.
> >
> > Secondly, I've only played with this program for a few minutes, but I
> > may be converting my Getting Things Done 'Next Actions' list to it and
> > using documents to go to sync the plain folder text files for project
> > management.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Tobias Buckell
> >
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > By day I'm a mild-mannered tech worker, by night, a Science Fiction and
> > Fantasy writer. You can find out more about my fiction at my website at
> > http://www.tobiasbuckell.com where you can read my weblog, join my
> > newsletter, find excerpts or free fiction, and find out where you can
> > buy my fiction...
> >
> > Coming Soon:
> > -novel "Crystal Rain" from Tor Books (2006)
> > -novel "Ragamuffin" from Tor Books (TBA)
> >
> > You can find my short stories in these anthologies out now or coming
> > soon:
> > -Anakoinosis - I Alien (April 2005)
> > -Necahual - So Long Been Dreaming: Postcolonial SF&F (Oct. 2004)
> > -Aerophilia - All Star Zeppelin Stories (Sep. 2004)
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> > (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> > http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
> >
>


From allan at macromates.com  Wed Feb  2 17:37:23 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 18:37:23 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] New Icon (was: Beta 4 & bundles)
In-Reply-To: <50495b870c64f7ddac5486000d35a080@westernfreight.com>
References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com>
	
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	<477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com>
	<1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org>
	<477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com>
	
	<739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
	
	<828d7fd3050201194153811aea@mail.gmail.com>
	<50495b870c64f7ddac5486000d35a080@westernfreight.com>
Message-ID: <0afe5dca806b858c0388e344216df73f@macromates.com>

On Feb 2, 2005, at 4:57, Edmundo Ortega wrote:

> The new icon is good, but it's too close in theme to SubEthaEdit.

So that would be the ?old? (beta 3) icon actually!?!

> So given the choice right now I think I'd have to go with Ethan's GEAR 
> icon. It's simple, fits the OS X look, looks good at small sizes, and 
> is well-designed and rendered.

I think Torstens icon has personality, which a gear lacks. But 
unfortunately the ghost is not easy to place on other icons (like 
document/plugin icons etc.), and it does perhaps remind one too much of 
SEE (which is not really bad, but could leave one with the impression 
that TM is playing catch-up to SEE by mimicking it's icon etc.).

> My only criticism is that the use of the 'T' initial seems a bit 
> trite. Nonetheless, the icon is bold and works well at small size, and 
> I'm having difficulty thinking of anything else that would be better 
> in that context.

I also like Ethan's gear. Justin showed me an enhanced version of it, 
still it easily blends in with a bright background, but I think Justin 
is communicating with Ethan about this.

If Ethan is okay with it, I may try it out for beta 6. None of this is 
official btw, I'm just giving each of the icons I like a week or so of 
exposure.

And if you wonder why I say beta 6: 
http://macromates.com/blog/archives/2005/02/02/external-editor-api/ (so 
this will be beta 5, but I'll add a few other things also, so people 
not using the editor API will still see the benefit of updating ;) ).



From kmcmillan at leapfrogonline.com  Wed Feb  2 17:53:48 2005
From: kmcmillan at leapfrogonline.com (kumar mcmillan)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 11:53:48 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] web preview and PHP include_paths
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <0784742265937769724b3b96be588a02@leapfrogonline.com>


On Feb 2, 2005, at 9:25 AM, max at machinate.org wrote:

> Another thing that I'm not sure if any one has mentioned is that when 
> you pipe it through the PHP binary, require() and include() don't work 
> when the files have a relative path to the script.
> Any apache server env variables are also bypassed so you can't 
> reference 'SCRIPT_URI' etc.
> I don't really want to change every script to have absolute paths, as 
> that becomes rather inflexible.
>  would be glad to hear any solutions anyone might have.

from my noodling, it appears that commands in textmate run from :
/private/tmp/502/TemporaryItems

you may be able to alter your command to something like this:

cd `dirname $TM_FILEPATH`
cat $TM_FILEPATH > php

(just a guess, haven't tested)


k

>
> thanks, max
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate



From mark.young at vdhinc.com  Wed Feb  2 18:04:32 2005
From: mark.young at vdhinc.com (Mark Young)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 12:04:32 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Re: textmate Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6
In-Reply-To: <20050201222001.37E0516B2@one.textdrive.com>
References: <20050201222001.37E0516B2@one.textdrive.com>
Message-ID: 


On Feb 1, 2005, at 4:20 PM, textmate-request at lists.macromates.com wrote:

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> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Re: ODB, FTP and external editors (Allan Odgaard)
>    2. Re: ODB, FTP and external editors (Allan Odgaard)
>    3. Re: esc auto-complete? (Allan Odgaard)
>    4. Re: Line Up/Down for Arrow Keys? (Allan Odgaard)
>    5. Re: Editing a graphic in PS (Allan Odgaard)
>    6. Re: ActionScript bundle (Rob Bevan)
>    7. Re: pdfLaTeX, b4 (Allan Odgaard)
>    8. Re: ActionScript bundle (Allan Odgaard)
>    9. Re: OS X Services (Allan Odgaard)
>   10. Re: TextMate's Missing Snippets Palette (Allan Odgaard)
>   11. Re: TextMate's Missing Snippets Palette (Allan Odgaard)
>   12. Re: pdfLaTeX, b4 (Sune Foldager)
>   13. Re: Inputs in Text Window (Allan Odgaard)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:27:14 +0100
> From: Allan Odgaard 
> Subject: Re: [TxMt] ODB, FTP and external editors
> To: TM Users 
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Feb 1, 2005, at 22:20, Eric Hsu wrote:
>
>> I myself am more inconvenienced by the malfunction of Services... it
>> was really helping Pages be more of a text processor. But now, saving
>> and closing in TM doesn't seem to send the edited text back to the
>> calling program (in this case Pages), which then hangs waiting.
>
> Ah, hadn't realized it, but that's actually the same problem (since the
> service also use the external editor API).
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:31:19 +0100
> From: Allan Odgaard 
> Subject: Re: [TxMt] ODB, FTP and external editors
> To: TM Users 
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed
>
> On Feb 1, 2005, at 22:11, Brad Miller wrote:
>
>> over on NetNewsWire, Brent does both private and public beta releases.
>>  The public one's go to version tracker etc. but the private ones are
>> only available to people on the mailing list, including a link.  Not
>> sure how the autoupdate would adapt. I suppose you could have
>> preferences like Quicksilver...
>
> What I probably could do was have a select few which gets the beta
> before others, and they have maybe 8 hours to report problems. But most
> likely that wouldn't really work, and so far the betas seems to mostly
> work for the majority, and there's always the ability to downgrade (all
> previous versions remain online).
>
> If I add another stage, like nightly builds or private betas, I should
> probably instead bump the current betas to minors. Maybe then ADC news
> would also carry new releases as news...
>
> The main reason I do betas as betas is because the features which debut
> in these are unlikely to be ?complete?.
>
>> I hope you can release a patch for this one since it severely limits
>> my ability to get things done.
>
> Yes, when I get back to coding it's probably the first I'll look at.
> But as Eric said, you can always downgrade. All previous versions
> remain online.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:42:37 +0100
> From: Allan Odgaard 
> Subject: Re: [TxMt] esc auto-complete?
> To: TM Users 
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed
>
> On Feb 1, 2005, at 18:47, Simon Gregory wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to add a few snippets to the Actionscript bundle to include
>> some of the shortcuts that Actionscript developers would be used to
>> after coding in Flash.
>
> Great, let me know if you want access to the repository. The current
> ActionScript bundle has no maintainer (but is by Rob Bevan).
>
>> I've got the tab completion working fine but I'm used to pressing esc
>> then the key combination to invoke an auto complete and was hoping
>> that someone could tell me how to get this working.
>
> That's not currently possible, other than recoding a macro that does
> 'tab' and bind that to the escape key.
>
>> If you've time then an explanation of Activation: Key Equivalent
>
> This is a _single_ key (with optional modifiers).
>
>> and Activation: Input Pattern would also be useful as I can't find any
>> documentation.
>
> Input pattern is not working yet. What it will be is a non-greedy
> regular expression matched against the typed input. Mainly useful for
> having macros executed on certain editing patterns. For example the XML
> bundle has a snippet that expands to: ?<$1>?. Here one could match
> ?expansion of this snippet?, ?giving the tag a name?, ?pressing return
> inside the tag (w/o typing anything)?. The macro would then add indent
> and move the end tag down an extra line.
>
> This coupled with the upcoming scope system (which will be able to
> limit the activation methods to specific language elements) will allow
> for some pretty neat stuff ;)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:46:29 +0100
> From: Allan Odgaard 
> Subject: Re: [TxMt] Line Up/Down for Arrow Keys?
> To: TM Users 
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Feb 1, 2005, at 19:39, Wayne Larsen wrote:
>
>> I love the new file chooser, however, is it possible for textmate to
>> allow line up or line down to be used in place of the arrow keys for
>> list navigation? [...]
>
> I'll look into it -- it should use the standard key bindings, but
> unfortunately the way I currently pull off the thing about moving the
> selection in the inactive table view while the search string has focus,
> doesn't play well with the normal event system :/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:47:33 +0100
> From: Allan Odgaard 
> Subject: Re: [TxMt] Editing a graphic in PS
> To: TM Users 
> Message-ID: <7a34871ca7b41e2ec21d363468d09c24 at macromates.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Feb 1, 2005, at 0:58, Eric Curtis wrote:
>
>> I thought it was pulling the name and that Finder was what would open
>> it, which it did in a way. Might I suggest changing it to:
>>
>> Open file with Default App
>
> I took the title from Xcode. But I'll check if Launch Services could
> give me the name of the application that will actually open the file.
> That would be very nice.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 21:52:53 +0000
> From: Rob Bevan 
> Subject: Re: [TxMt] ActionScript bundle
> To: TM Users 
> Message-ID: <9FB84FB2-749B-11D9-92D9-00039396DAC0 at xpt.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
>
> On 1 Feb 2005, at 21:42, Allan Odgaard wrote:
>
>> Great, let me know if you want access to the repository. The current
>> ActionScript bundle has no maintainer (but is by Rob Bevan).
>
> Hi Allan,
>
> Sorry, I've been meaning to pick this up again. I have a few snippets
> and commands to add to the bundle. If you let me have access I'll do
> this soon (and maybe coordinate with Simon).
>
> Cheers,
> Rob
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:55:17 +0100
> From: Allan Odgaard 
> Subject: Re: [TxMt] pdfLaTeX, b4
> To: TM Users 
> Message-ID: <1059af41f19e5501c1ebdeee8a7aba5f at macromates.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed
>
> On Feb 1, 2005, at 19:01, Robert Ullrey wrote:
>
>> Quick question though. Now I would like to use XeLateX as my
>> typesetting engine so I can change fonts through fontspec. How can I
>> change the bundle command in PDF LateX to use XeLateX ($xelatex
>> [file] in the terminal)?
>
> Select Automation -> Run Command -> Edit Commands
>
>
> Here you'll find LaTeX / PDF LaTeX which is the current command.
> Duplicate it and make your changes. It's a lot of lines, but the
> essense is the pdflatex which output is piped into perl, that makes the
> errors HTML anchors.
>
> Ask if there's anything.
>
>> P.S., It would also be nice to be able to use ConTeXt ($texexec)
>
> It shouldn't be a problem to modify the command to use ConTeXt instead.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:58:32 +0100
> From: Allan Odgaard 
> Subject: Re: [TxMt] ActionScript bundle
> To: TM Users 
> Message-ID: <9bb570ab93548d471c013278eeae51eb at macromates.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Feb 1, 2005, at 22:52, Rob Bevan wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I've been meaning to pick this up again. I have a few snippets
>> and commands to add to the bundle. If you let me have access I'll do
>> this soon (and maybe coordinate with Simon).
>
> Done!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:00:29 +0100
> From: Allan Odgaard 
> Subject: Re: [TxMt] OS X Services
> To: TM Users 
> Message-ID: <5d65196ad5d6f66a0020658d8bfb25e8 at macromates.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Feb 1, 2005, at 19:12, Eric Curtis wrote:
>
>> Perhaps I am doing something wrong put when I highlight a chunk of
>> text and execute the service nothing happens...
>
> This must be the missing ODB editor support in beta 4.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:01:58 +0100
> From: Allan Odgaard 
> Subject: Re: [TxMt] TextMate's Missing Snippets Palette
> To: TM Users 
> Message-ID: <7d1ba8bbc17e9e74091500a4cec84643 at macromates.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Feb 1, 2005, at 20:51, Chris Messina wrote:
>
>> I would also like to be able to drag n' drop a snippet onto a
>> selection and have the snippet wrap around my selection.
>
> Ehm... how? Shouldn't the snippet then somehow specify where the
> selection should go, and if so, would this be any different than what
> you currently can do, other than the way you activate it?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:07:11 +0100
> From: Allan Odgaard 
> Subject: Re: [TxMt] TextMate's Missing Snippets Palette
> To: TM Users 
> Message-ID: <6e556256733582045ea04f6677a1489b at macromates.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Jan 31, 2005, at 16:05, Jon Raphaelson wrote:
>
>> Actually, some sort of floating palette with all of the current
>> languages stuff (commands, snippets, macros) would be handy.
>
> Okay -- but I'd prefer not to spend any time on this before after 1.1.
> And I'm btw changing my plans a little, so 1.1 will be in a few weeks,
> and I'll just do 5-10 1.1.x releases instead of having 1.1 in beta for
> half a year ;)
>
> Hopefully no-one feels cheated that some of the stuff I've promised for
> 1.1 then will be 1.1.x instead.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:18:27 +0100
> From: Sune Foldager 
> Subject: Re: [TxMt] pdfLaTeX, b4
> To: TM Users 
> Message-ID: <43fca7a105bc5f45bf2a1ad1fcfc428c at cyanite.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On 1. feb 2005, at 14:35, Brad Miller wrote:
>
>> The latest unstable version of tetex from the fink archive appears to
>> be several versions out of date [...].
>
> Yes, in fact the teTeX package doesn't have the newest Web2C TeX
> version at all no matter what distro you pick. The i-Installer one is a
> mixture of teTeX (for the foundation) and a binary distro called
> TeX-live for the programs (tex, pdftex, dvips etc.). teTeX is the most
> popular package for *nix as far as I am aware, so it's rather odd that
> it's behind like this. And too bad. But at least it can be worked
> around on the mac.
>
> -- 
> Sune.
> :: the Cottage of Lost Play.
> :: http://cyanite.org
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:17:51 +0100
> From: Allan Odgaard 
> Subject: Re: [TxMt] Inputs in Text Window
> To: TM Users 
> Message-ID: <03fac328adafa26e4d9eb5f52aa2b3c3 at macromates.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Jan 27, 2005, at 17:26, Mr. Robert Ullrey wrote:
>
>> [...] I am still frustrated with changing inputs (e.g., greek) as well
>> as not being able to use input engines like "Spell Checker". Ant
>> estimate on this bug fix?
>
> Well, the best I can do is say that in half a year, I expect 90% of the
> things reported since release should have been taken care of ;)
>
> I know it's not of much help, but the more exact estimate I give, the
> more chance there is that it won't be correct.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> textmate mailing list
> textmate at lists.macromates.com
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>
>
> End of textmate Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6
> **************************************
>
>

-- 
Mark Young
Virtual Design House, Inc.
231 South Bemiston, Suite 100
Clayton, MO 63105
Phone: 314-482-3377
E-Mail:  mark.young at vdhinc.com



From tobias at tobiasbuckell.com  Wed Feb  2 18:56:07 2005
From: tobias at tobiasbuckell.com (Tobias Buckell)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 13:56:07 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Re: textmate Digest, Vol 5, Issue 10
In-Reply-To: <20050202180457.4DEBA17DF@one.textdrive.com>
References: <20050202180457.4DEBA17DF@one.textdrive.com>
Message-ID: <1893A05C-754C-11D9-81BD-000A958FBF8C@tobiasbuckell.com>

> Oh, I just realized that Ulysses has a fullscreen mode...you can tell
> how much I've used it. :-)

TB: Ulysses does. However, Ulysses requires me to hop through some 
really weird activation loops to potentially buy it, and just to test 
it. It also just looks awful in interface, and the method of opening 
documents and project management is awkward. I think Textmate is a 
better handler of all the various things I do, html, 
php/mysql/movabletype, articles, novels, todo lists, etc. Textmate is 
also *snappy* when I use it, the documents load up *like that* when I 
double click them. I like that!

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
By day I'm a mild-mannered tech worker, by night, a Science Fiction and 
Fantasy writer. You can find out more about my fiction at my website at 
http://www.tobiasbuckell.com where you can read my weblog, join my 
newsletter, find excerpts or free fiction, and find out where you can 
buy my fiction...

Coming Soon:
-novel "Crystal Rain" from Tor Books (2006)
-novel "Ragamuffin" from Tor Books (TBA)

You can find my short stories in these anthologies out now or coming 
soon:
-Anakoinosis - I Alien (April 2005)
-Necahual - So Long Been Dreaming: Postcolonial SF&F (Oct. 2004)
-Aerophilia - All Star Zeppelin Stories (Sep. 2004)
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



From cryo at cyanite.org  Wed Feb  2 19:24:32 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 20:24:32 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Re: textmate Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20050201222001.37E0516B2@one.textdrive.com>
	
Message-ID: 

On 2. feb 2005, at 19:04, Mark Young wrote:

> [100s of lines...]

Nice quote ;-).

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From allan at macromates.com  Wed Feb  2 20:53:48 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 21:53:48 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] web preview and PHP include_paths
In-Reply-To: <0784742265937769724b3b96be588a02@leapfrogonline.com>
References: 
	<0784742265937769724b3b96be588a02@leapfrogonline.com>
Message-ID: <26521cea067afba53e6b62de2fa51bc1@macromates.com>

On Feb 2, 2005, at 18:53, kumar mcmillan wrote:

> from my noodling, it appears that commands in textmate run from :
> /private/tmp/502/TemporaryItems

It depends... Commands prefer the project directory, if there is none, 
it uses the directory of the active file (if it has one).

But in other places where shell commands can be executed, it will use 
the temporary directory.



From allan at macromates.com  Wed Feb  2 20:55:02 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 21:55:02 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] External editor fix
Message-ID: 

I re-uploaded beta 4 with the external editor API (hopefully) working.



From timfm at hawaii.rr.com  Thu Feb  3 00:15:59 2005
From: timfm at hawaii.rr.com (Tim Martens)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:15:59 -1000
Subject: [TxMt] Markdown->Markup->PDF
Message-ID: <855aa07cae7de4b29af8103d1665b4f3@hawaii.rr.com>

How can automate the process of:

piping a Markdown through markdown.pl
having it open in an external browser of my choice (preferably Opera 8 
beta as it does the best job of honoring print related CSS)
grabbing the X/HTML source
putting the source into a new TM document

Is that even possible. I'm open to other suggestions about going from 
Markdown to PDF.

  -t 



From jason.terk at gmail.com  Thu Feb  3 01:36:50 2005
From: jason.terk at gmail.com (Jason Terk)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 20:36:50 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Markdown->Markup->PDF
In-Reply-To: <855aa07cae7de4b29af8103d1665b4f3@hawaii.rr.com>
References: <855aa07cae7de4b29af8103d1665b4f3@hawaii.rr.com>
Message-ID: <3f6072e05020217366740a506@mail.gmail.com>

Well, assuming that markdown.pl is somewhere in your path and is
executable do the following:

Filter through command (Option+Shift+R)
Enter "markdown.pl" for the command.
Choose input->document
Choose output->replace document

And you're done!


From jason.terk at gmail.com  Thu Feb  3 01:39:35 2005
From: jason.terk at gmail.com (Jason Terk)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 20:39:35 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Markdown->Markup->PDF
In-Reply-To: <3f6072e05020217366740a506@mail.gmail.com>
References: <855aa07cae7de4b29af8103d1665b4f3@hawaii.rr.com>
	<3f6072e05020217366740a506@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3f6072e05020217395f3ffd1d@mail.gmail.com>

BTW, if you need to see a preview, use the web preview built into
TextMate (Ctrl+Option+Command+P), select "Show Options", select "Pipe
text through" and enter the path to your markdown.pl script.

The web preview uses web kit (i.e. KHTML, the same rendering engine as
Safari), which is, in my experience, as good or better than other
browsers at rendering XHTML. THe only place it "fails" is when CSS
rules try to change the appearance of form elements (mostly input
buttons).

Cheers!


From tim at splashdesign.com  Thu Feb  3 02:45:22 2005
From: tim at splashdesign.com (Tim Martens)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 16:45:22 -1000
Subject: [TxMt] Markdown->Markup->PDF
In-Reply-To: <3f6072e05020217366740a506@mail.gmail.com>
References: <855aa07cae7de4b29af8103d1665b4f3@hawaii.rr.com>
	<3f6072e05020217366740a506@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

Texmate, the more I use it the more powerful it becomes!

This works well Jason, thanks.

Anyway to have the output inserted at a specific location in a new 
document based on a template. E.g., have output inserted between the 
body tags of an XHTML template?

  -t

On Feb 2, 2005, at 3:36 PM, Jason Terk wrote:

> Well, assuming that markdown.pl is somewhere in your path and is
> executable do the following:
>
> Filter through command (Option+Shift+R)
> Enter "markdown.pl" for the command.
> Choose input->document
> Choose output->replace document
>
> And you're done!
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>



From allan at macromates.com  Thu Feb  3 12:30:12 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 13:30:12 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] 1.1b4 File Chooser & HTML Output options 
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

On Feb 1, 2005, at 17:17, Mats Persson wrote:

> 1.	The Search field in the File Chooser window should contain a number 
> of options [...] I want to be able to just use 'str' to find the files 
> that have "string" in them for example [...]

I'd prefer just to tweak the algorithm to detect when the user wants to 
do substring searching (and give matches here a higher ranking in the 
list) -- when this is mentioned in the release notes as done, feel free 
to take it up again, if you still do not feel it's working for you.

> 2.	HTML Output Options [...] Is there any chance that we could have a 
> few options there as well ? Such as [...]

I do have a few options in mind, but actually not the ones you mention. 
Let's give this feature a few weeks to see how people use it, and if 
there is a preference for what you request, then I'll re-consider :)



From dperetti at lachoseinteractive.net  Thu Feb  3 15:08:39 2005
From: dperetti at lachoseinteractive.net (Dominique PERETTI)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:08:39 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] svnX 0.7 : fileMerge between Subversion revisions from
	TextMate
Message-ID: 

Hi to all,

I finally took 2 minutes to make the yet unreleased 0.7 version of svnX 
available to you (not public yet).
You can download it here :

http://www.lachoseinteractive.net/_files/svnX0.7.zip


It has a new feature : you can invoke it from TextMate (via 
AppleScript) and be presented with a window with the different 
revisions of the edited file.
Here is an excerpt from the help file (Help menu).

Invoking svnX's diff window with Applescript

It allows you to use svnX's diff window from another application.

Usage :
	
tell application "svnX" to diff /absolute/path/to/the/file

TextMate example :

osascript -e 'set TM_FILEPATH to get system attribute "TM_FILEPATH"' -e 
'tell application "svnX" to diff TM_FILEPATH'

You can also invoke FileMerge to compare the file with the pristine 
copy (without displaying svnX's diff window, actually without even 
opening svnX) :

/usr/local/bin/svn diff --diff-cmd 
"/Applications/svnX.app/Contents/Resources/svndiff.sh" $TM_FILEPATH > 
/dev/null


More info about svnX here :
http://www.lachoseinteractive.net/en/community/subversion/svnx/features/

Dominique PERETTI
http://www.lachoseinteractive.net
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From jason.terk at gmail.com  Thu Feb  3 16:07:01 2005
From: jason.terk at gmail.com (Jason Terk)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 11:07:01 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] svnX 0.7 : fileMerge between Subversion revisions from
	TextMate
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <3f6072e05020308072677a8bd@mail.gmail.com>

Very cool, thanks for the tip!


From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Thu Feb  3 16:09:59 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 08:09:59 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] svnX 0.7 : fileMerge between Subversion revisions from
	TextMate
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

Hi Dominique,

That link is broken for me. Are you teasing us?  :)

- Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From allan at macromates.com  Thu Feb  3 16:15:58 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:15:58 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Markdown->Markup->PDF
In-Reply-To: 
References: <855aa07cae7de4b29af8103d1665b4f3@hawaii.rr.com>
	<3f6072e05020217366740a506@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: 

On Feb 3, 2005, at 3:45, Tim Martens wrote:

> Anyway to have the output inserted at a specific location in a new 
> document based on a template. E.g., have output inserted between the 
> body tags of an XHTML template?

What you can do is a command like this:

---8<---
cat <
...

HEAD
~/bin/Markdown.pl
cat <

TAIL
--->8---

And set input: entire document, output: replace document (I'll add 
?open in new window? real soon).

This will cat the header, then run markdown on your document, inserting 
the result, and finally cat the tail. So you'll need to have the 
?template? in the command (though you could also store it in a file and 
cat that file -- if you want it in a file you can use 'sed' to cut the 
top/bottom part divided e.g. by , let me 
know if you want an example of this).



From dperetti at lachoseinteractive.net  Thu Feb  3 16:18:04 2005
From: dperetti at lachoseinteractive.net (Dominique PERETTI)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:18:04 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] svnX 0.7 : fileMerge between Subversion revisions from
	TextMate
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
Message-ID: <3e8d409141b29211327ce997221d3c67@lachoseinteractive.net>

OOOOOOOOOOOPS

http://www.lachoseinteractive.net/files/svnX0.7.zip

:-D


On 3 f?vr. 05, at 17:09, Eric Hsu wrote:

> Hi Dominique,
>
> That link is broken for me. Are you teasing us?  :)
>
> - Eric
> -- 
> Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
> San Francisco State University
> erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
> http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>
Dominique PERETTI
http://www.lachoseinteractive.net



From roberto+textmate at keltia.freenix.fr  Thu Feb  3 18:12:36 2005
From: roberto+textmate at keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 19:12:36 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] IRC channel: #textmate on freenode.net
In-Reply-To: <8a1259705bc2ad87a365aacb363c17ef@cyanite.org>
References: <8a1259705bc2ad87a365aacb363c17ef@cyanite.org>
Message-ID: <20050203181236.GA97503@tara.freenix.org>

According to Sune Foldager:
> I have arranged for an IRC channel to be set up for TextMate 
> discussions of any sort. I created it on freenode.net, which is usually 

I opened it a few weeks ago on freenode too, made a bit of advert on
#rubyonrails but it never got much people.  Nice to see it revived.
-- 
Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto at keltia.freenix.fr
Darwin snuadh.freenix.org Kernel Version 7.7.0: Sun Nov  7 16:06:51 PST 2004


From BrunosJunk at Bronosky.com  Thu Feb  3 22:04:30 2005
From: BrunosJunk at Bronosky.com (Bruno Bronosky)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:04:30 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] folding behaves very irregularly
Message-ID: <722a6e4aad95ac08575a54da1a9a470a@Bronosky.com>

I have not found any documentation on how folding works.  From what I 
can tell it is a combination of character pairs and indentation.  I'm 
have great stress trying to make sense of a PHP class which I did not 
write.  I cannot make sense of it in BBEdit which I have always used 
for code. (I stumbled on TextMate today.)  TM would help greatly with 
it's folding feature, if I could properly fold functions.  However the 
class author used inconsistant indentation (for which he should be 
tortured) which is causing folds to begin with the { of a function 
declaration and the } of an if clause.  I have checked using BBEdit's 
Text>Balance feature (which is very cool and should be added to TM) and 
the {'s and }'s are properly balanced.  But, since the indentation 
sucks, I can't fold.

Please correct the folding behavior.

Thank you,

--==<< R i c h a r d B r o n o s k y >>==--

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From BrunosJunk at Bronosky.com  Fri Feb  4 00:24:15 2005
From: BrunosJunk at Bronosky.com (Bruno Bronosky)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 19:24:15 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Please add a feature similar to BBEdit's "Balance"
Message-ID: <41b0d45cb3c0f2a411727892af00ffb1@Bronosky.com>

For those of you who have not used it, BBEdit amid all bloat actually 
has a few useful features.  One extremely useful feature is the 
"Balance" command.  It simple creates a selection that extends from the 
beginning of a markup tag (ie. "
    "), brace (ie "{"), or bracket (ie 
"[") to the closing markup tag, brace, or bracket.  The most important 
part is that it accurately accounts for nesting.  This feature seems 
expendable on perfected code, but it is a life saver when you have 
several nested control structures and you have forgotten a closing 
brace.  It is also very useful when trying to make sense of 
Microsoft-proofed HTML with several nested divs and no whitespace.

The balance command can be call from the "Text" menu item, or by double 
clicking an opening or closing brace, bracket or the GT/LT of a markup 
tag.

Please add this simple feature.

Thank you,

--==<< R i c h a r d B r o n o s k y >>==--

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From BrunosJunk at Bronosky.com  Fri Feb  4 00:30:56 2005
From: BrunosJunk at Bronosky.com (Bruno Bronosky)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 19:30:56 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] please add the ability to fold a selection
Message-ID: <5741a381809c442d071885d16649def3@Bronosky.com>

When any selection is made, the left margin should gain a "begin fold" 
icon similar to the ones that appear next to the start of a foldable 
chunk of code.  It would differ in appearance by replacing the dark 
gray color with the highlight color.  Clicking this icon would fold the 
entire selection into a single fold.  Unfolding the chunk of code would 
reselect that chunk of code only if another selection did not exist.

Please add this feature.

Thank you,

--==<< R i c h a r d B r o n o s k y >>==--

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From BrunosJunk at Bronosky.com  Fri Feb  4 00:34:48 2005
From: BrunosJunk at Bronosky.com (Bruno Bronosky)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 19:34:48 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Newbie question about  this mailing list
Message-ID: <6375e8c0c46246a5a4bf3f2941b8ab6e@Bronosky.com>

I have been writing feature requests to the mailing list.  As an 
application developer and project manager I have had to read, write, 
revise, and follow hundreds of functionality specs.  I write my 
requests with functionality spec verbiage.

Is this a proper use of this mailing list?

Thank you,

--==<< R i c h a r d B r o n o s k y >>==--

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From cryo at cyanite.org  Fri Feb  4 00:40:32 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 01:40:32 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] IRC channel: #textmate on freenode.net
In-Reply-To: <20050203181236.GA97503@tara.freenix.org>
References: <8a1259705bc2ad87a365aacb363c17ef@cyanite.org>
	<20050203181236.GA97503@tara.freenix.org>
Message-ID: <8767c59bce8c025568d1859d841fd4e0@cyanite.org>

On 3. feb 2005, at 19:12, Ollivier Robert wrote:

> According to Sune Foldager:
>> I have arranged for an IRC channel to be set up for TextMate
>> discussions of any sort. I created it on freenode.net, which is 
>> usually
>
> I opened it a few weeks ago on freenode too, made a bit of advert on
> #rubyonrails but it never got much people.  Nice to see it revived.

Ah ok... well now it's registered and guarded and what not ;-).

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From ecurtis at rgbdesignstudio.com  Fri Feb  4 01:19:44 2005
From: ecurtis at rgbdesignstudio.com (Eric Curtis)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:19:44 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Help and Suggestion for Renaming
Message-ID: 

I noticed that my hand automatically went to the enter key on the 
numeric key pad to start renaming a file in the drawer. I have a 
feeling that I could probably map that key to the function although I 
am not sure how to do it. Any Ideas?

The suggestion would be do have the above as a default behavior if it 
can be done.

Sincerely,

Eric C



From ecurtis at rgbdesignstudio.com  Fri Feb  4 01:23:33 2005
From: ecurtis at rgbdesignstudio.com (Eric Curtis)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:23:33 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Please add a feature similar to BBEdit's "Balance"
In-Reply-To: <41b0d45cb3c0f2a411727892af00ffb1@Bronosky.com>
References: <41b0d45cb3c0f2a411727892af00ffb1@Bronosky.com>
Message-ID: 

> For those of you who have not used it, BBEdit amid all bloat actually 
> has a few useful features.  One extremely useful feature is the 
> "Balance" command.  It simple creates a selection that extends from 
> the beginning of a markup tag (ie. "
    "), brace (ie "{"), or 
> bracket (ie "[") to the closing markup tag, brace, or bracket.  The 
> most important part is that it accurately accounts for nesting.  This 
> feature seems expendable on perfected code, but it is a life saver 
> when you have several nested control structures and you have forgotten 
> a closing brace.  It is also very useful when trying to make sense of 
> Microsoft-proofed HTML with several nested divs and no whitespace.
>

This balance idea sounds really helpful. Today I ran across an HTML bug 
for an early version of IE that required me to delete all the spaces 
between tags and basically run a huge block of images together. This 
has been a royal pain to decipher. If there was an easy way to both 
highlight it and have it automatically balance out (add spaces and 
returns) and then re-compress it I would have done it about 10 times 
today.

Eric C



From jason at haro.textdrive.com  Fri Feb  4 20:08:10 2005
From: jason at haro.textdrive.com (jason hoffman)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 12:08:10 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] testing
Message-ID: <7E32DEF1-76E8-11D9-9AB2-000D935C02EE@haro.textdrive.com>

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From torsten.becker at gmail.com  Fri Feb  4 20:09:34 2005
From: torsten.becker at gmail.com (Torsten Becker)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:09:34 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] folding behaves very irregularly
In-Reply-To: <722a6e4aad95ac08575a54da1a9a470a@Bronosky.com>
References: <722a6e4aad95ac08575a54da1a9a470a@Bronosky.com>
Message-ID: 

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:04, Bruno Bronosky wrote:
> I have not found any documentation on how folding works. ?From what I
> can tell it is a combination of character pairs and indentation.

folding is defined by patterns in the syntax-highlighting files, you
could change it there by adjusting the foldingStartMarker and foldingStopMarker
expressions. ?(you can find the highlight definitions in the bundles in
/Applications/TextMate/Contents/SharedSupport/Bundles/ and ~/Libary/Application
Support/TextMate/Bundles/ )

the best way probably would be to copy the php bundle to your custom bundle
folder (mentioned above) and then tweak the syntax definition if you need a
custom folding. ?if you make it also useful for normal cases sending a patch
to justin french (who afaik maintains the bundle) would also help other people.
i think the email should be anywhere in the list archives, the wiki or elsewhere
on the internet.

--
Torsten Becker


From textmate-2004 at ryandesign.com  Fri Feb  4 20:13:52 2005
From: textmate-2004 at ryandesign.com (Ryan Schmidt)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:13:52 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] OS X Services
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<84aff9dbe26e385ef7685f659cdbfcb2@macromates.com>
	
	
Message-ID: 

On 02.02.2005, at 02:40, Fred B. wrote:

> I'm long time IceCoffee user, I use it to launch url in plain text  
> documents by command clicking on them.

THANK YOU. I've been missing this feature since switching to OS X 10.0. 
You have improved my life.



From cruzin at gmail.com  Fri Feb  4 23:43:07 2005
From: cruzin at gmail.com (Chris Ruzin)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 17:43:07 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Export selected text to HTML?
Message-ID: 

Hello all,

I started using TextMate 1.1b4 and really like it so far.  I'm just 
beginning to learn about Ruby and TextMate is much better than BBEdit 
with it.

I was looking around the Web for some example code, and saw on 
someone's blog that they had colorized Ruby code examples with line 
numbers.  I emailed them to ask them how they did it, and they told me 
they used Vim.  They said in Vim, you open the file you want colorized 
and type ":runtime! syntax/2html.vim".  Vim will then split the window 
with the original in the upper half and the colorized HTML version in 
the bottom half.  He then copies what he needs out of that and pastes 
it into his blog entry.  He says it will work with any language Vim 
understands.

What I'm wanting to know is if there's a way to do something like this 
in TextMate?  Perhaps a command?  I'm not familiar with the inner 
workings or power toys in TextMate, so any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Chris




From allan at macromates.com  Sat Feb  5 19:05:26 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 20:05:26 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Export selected text to HTML?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <6d9080c385a5401b4ed7a615b1818ce5@macromates.com>

On Feb 5, 2005, at 0:43, Chris Ruzin wrote:

> [...] Vim will then split the window with the original in the upper 
> half and the colorized HTML version in the bottom half.  He then 
> copies what he needs out of that and pastes it into his blog entry.  
> He says it will work with any language Vim understands.
>
> What I'm wanting to know is if there's a way to do something like this 
> in TextMate?  Perhaps a command?

If you have a command/script that can convert Ruby code to HTML, then 
it's not a problem to have this run on your selected text and show the 
result as text, html, or copy to the clipboard.

But I am assuming that the person is actually using a VIM feature that 
does the actual conversion (using VIM's own syntax files) -- currently 
this is not possible with TextMate (I'll add it as a feature request 
though).



From fxn at hashref.com  Sat Feb  5 19:46:07 2005
From: fxn at hashref.com (Xavier Noria)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 20:46:07 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Export selected text to HTML?
In-Reply-To: <6d9080c385a5401b4ed7a615b1818ce5@macromates.com>
References: 
	<6d9080c385a5401b4ed7a615b1818ce5@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <0c5a534eef140ca2a31a580924ebd443@hashref.com>

On Feb 5, 2005, at 20:05, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 5, 2005, at 0:43, Chris Ruzin wrote:
>
>> [...] Vim will then split the window with the original in the upper 
>> half and the colorized HTML version in the bottom half.  He then 
>> copies what he needs out of that and pastes it into his blog entry.  
>> He says it will work with any language Vim understands.
>>
>> What I'm wanting to know is if there's a way to do something like 
>> this in TextMate?  Perhaps a command?
>
> If you have a command/script that can convert Ruby code to HTML, then 
> it's not a problem to have this run on your selected text and show the 
> result as text, html, or copy to the clipboard.

Just for the record, there are some utilities out there that can help:

     GNU Source-highlight
     http://www.gnu.org/software/src-highlite/

     Beautifier
     http://www.beautifier.org/

     Perltidy
     http://perltidy.sourceforge.net/

-- fxn



From allan at macromates.com  Sat Feb  5 20:25:16 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 21:25:16 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Export selected text to HTML?
In-Reply-To: <0c5a534eef140ca2a31a580924ebd443@hashref.com>
References: 
	<6d9080c385a5401b4ed7a615b1818ce5@macromates.com>
	<0c5a534eef140ca2a31a580924ebd443@hashref.com>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 5, 2005, at 20:46, Xavier Noria wrote:

> Just for the record, there are some utilities out there that can help:
>     GNU Source-highlight
>     http://www.gnu.org/software/src-highlite/

Ah cool, and this is in Darwin Ports, so I did (Terminal.app):
% sudo port install source-highlight

And after a minute of installing then I made this command (in TextMate):
    expand -3 | source-highlight -scpp -fhtml

With input: Selected text and output: Show as HTML (beta 5 has the 
?Open as new document?).

Since the OP wanted line numbers, I also did a small awk script to 
insert these, only tested with C++ output though:
expand -3 | source-highlight -scpp -fhtml \
| awk '

  /^
    /     {
     sub("
    ", "
      1: ");
     print $0; next;
  }

  /^<\/tt><\/pre>/ {
     print $0; next;
  }

  { printf("%3d: %s\n", ++line + 1, $0); }
'

Remember that you may need to specify full path for source-highlight. 
And 'expand -3' is to convert tabs into spaces.



From allan at macromates.com  Sat Feb  5 20:29:44 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 21:29:44 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Export selected text to HTML?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<6d9080c385a5401b4ed7a615b1818ce5@macromates.com>
	<0c5a534eef140ca2a31a580924ebd443@hashref.com>
	
Message-ID: <61fd382d0cbbef14da9349d82d322722@macromates.com>

On Feb 5, 2005, at 21:25, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> Remember that you may need to specify full path for source-highlight. 
> And 'expand -3' is to convert tabs into spaces.

And if you have it working to your satisfaction, you probably want to 
change output to place on clipboard and bind a key equivalent to the 
command.



From cruzin at gmail.com  Sat Feb  5 23:43:07 2005
From: cruzin at gmail.com (Chris Ruzin)
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 17:43:07 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Re: Export selected text to HTML?
References: 
	<6d9080c385a5401b4ed7a615b1818ce5@macromates.com>
	<0c5a534eef140ca2a31a580924ebd443@hashref.com>
	
Message-ID: 

Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 5, 2005, at 20:46, Xavier Noria wrote:
> 
>> Just for the record, there are some utilities out there that can help:
>>     GNU Source-highlight
>>     http://www.gnu.org/software/src-highlite/
> 
> Since the OP wanted line numbers, I also did a small awk script to
> insert these, only tested with C++ output though:
> expand -3 | source-highlight -scpp -fhtml \
> | awk '
> 
>   /^
    /     {
>      sub("
    ", "
      1: ");
>      print $0; next;
>   }
> 
>   /^<\/tt><\/pre>/ {
>      print $0; next;
>   }
> 
>   { printf("%3d: %s\n", ++line + 1, $0); }
> '

I can get the source-highlight to work perfectly.  I changed the output to
xhtml (you know, standards and all) and it looks great!  However...
whenever I try to pipe it through awk, I just get a single blank line as
output.  I copied and pasted your example above.  Any ideas as to why it
would do that?  I know NOTHING about awk.

Also, is there a way to include the compiled source-highlight files inside
of the TextMate application bundle in the future so this could be a
built-in feature?  And one other thing.  ("No more!", they cry.)  Right
now, you have to staticly type in what the source is.  Can TM have a
current file extension variable (or something like that) so we can make
this a single command that will work with any files source-highlight
supports?  So the line would instead be something like:

expand -3 | source-highlight -s$TM_EXT -fxhtml

Chris



From cruzin at gmail.com  Sat Feb  5 23:52:26 2005
From: cruzin at gmail.com (Chris Ruzin)
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 17:52:26 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Re: Export selected text to HTML?
References: 
	<6d9080c385a5401b4ed7a615b1818ce5@macromates.com>
	<0c5a534eef140ca2a31a580924ebd443@hashref.com>
	
Message-ID: 

Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 5, 2005, at 20:46, Xavier Noria wrote:
> 
>> Just for the record, there are some utilities out there that can help:
>>     GNU Source-highlight
>>     http://www.gnu.org/software/src-highlite/
> 
> Since the OP wanted line numbers, I also did a small awk script to
> insert these, only tested with C++ output though:
> expand -3 | source-highlight -scpp -fhtml \
> | awk '
> 
>   /^
    /     {
>      sub("
    ", "
      1: ");
>      print $0; next;
>   }
> 
>   /^<\/tt><\/pre>/ {
>      print $0; next;
>   }
> 
>   { printf("%3d: %s\n", ++line + 1, $0); }
> '

I also just noticed that the piping through awk isn't necessary with
source-highlight.  Just add "-n" to the command and it will automatically
output it with line numbers.  Even better, if you add "--line-number-ref",
it will number all output lines and generate an anchor that can be referred
to from another document!  That could come in VERY handy.

Chris



From allan at macromates.com  Sun Feb  6 00:31:39 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 01:31:39 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Re: Export selected text to HTML?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<6d9080c385a5401b4ed7a615b1818ce5@macromates.com>
	<0c5a534eef140ca2a31a580924ebd443@hashref.com>
	
	
Message-ID: <61352fb62579b94b6062b6e5e92eb062@macromates.com>

On Feb 6, 2005, at 0:43, Chris Ruzin wrote:

>> Since the OP wanted line numbers, I also did a small awk script to
>> insert these [...]
> I can get the source-highlight to work perfectly.  I changed the 
> output to xhtml (you know, standards and all) and it looks great!  
> However...
> whenever I try to pipe it through awk, I just get a single blank line 
> as output.  I copied and pasted your example above.  Any ideas as to 
> why it would do that?

No ideas, here's my command in its own bundle (which reminds me that 
bundle items should be drag-able to/from Mail for these types of 
situations ;) ):

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> I know NOTHING about awk.

Awk is great for processing text, it takes a 'program' which is 
basically a list of ?regex { action }? where action is executed if 
regex matches the line (it applies all rules to all lines of the 
source.

In action you have the variables $1-n to access specific columns. Try 
?man awk?. You can also leave out the regex to have the action executed 
for all lines and there are also commands to skip the next actions etc. 
etc. Basically awk is an entire programming language, but with text 
processing in mind.

> Also, is there a way to include the compiled source-highlight files 
> inside of the TextMate application bundle in the future so this could 
> be a built-in feature?

There is, and you can reach the path of the bundle to which the command 
belong with $TM_BUNDLE_PATH, so basically just copy it to a bin 
directory of your bundle and call it as 
$TM_BUNDLE_PATH/bin/source-highlight -- though I don't think I should 
include this with TextMate (because it's then a binary distribution of 
a GNU source and I don't want to argue over whether or not TextMate is 
derived work of source-highlight etc.), but I probably should look into 
that system people are requesting about having a Quicksilver-inspired 
system where people can 'look for more bundles'.

> Right now, you have to staticly type in what the source is.  Can TM 
> have a current file extension variable (or something like that)

You can get the extension from the TM_FILEPATH like this:

TM_EXT=`echo $TM_FILEPATH|tr . '\n'|tail -1`

But you'd need to map it to the proper argument, e.g. rb -> ruby etc. 
Here's an example of how you could do that (inline):

TM_LANG=`grep ^$TM_EXT < I also just noticed that the piping through awk isn't necessary with
> source-highlight.  Just add "-n" to the command and it will 
> automatically output it with line numbers.  Even better, if you add 
> "--line-number-ref",

Doh! Well, it gave me a chance to talk about the often overlooked awk! 
;)

From bonelake at mac.com  Sun Feb  6 19:07:22 2005
From: bonelake at mac.com (Brad Miller)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 13:07:22 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Command Chooser?
Message-ID: <92fa4ddad51bedb2d1838549a1d490f8@mac.com>

Allan,

Here's a suggestion that came to me this morning. How about applying 
the wonderful logic in the file chooser to commands and macros?  I was 
thinking of it being very much like Quicksilver for TextMate commands.

I love it that the number of Bundles for TextMate is growing so 
quickly!   What I don't like is that there is very little structure to 
the allocation of keyboard shortcuts.  Its very quickly becoming 
emacs-like in the number of option-command-control-foo key-combos one 
must remember.  I know they are all there in the menu system, but I 
prefer to not use the mouse very much when I'm writing and programming.

One thing I always like about emacs, was that I could type Meta-x and 
type in the the beginning of a command, hit space for auto-complete, 
maybe a couple more characters,  and I would have the command I was 
looking for.  I used this technique for a whole host of commands that I 
used fairly often, but not often enough to remember the keyboard 
shortcut.  I think you could easily go one better by applying your 
matching algorithm to macros and commands.  Another thing that I liked 
was that emacs was self-teaching in that it would often tell me the 
keystroke needed to activate the command I just typed, so that after 
seeing it a bunch of times I would just start to remember.

Brad

Brad Miller, PhD
Assistant Professor
Luther College
http://www.cs.luther.edu/~bmiller
jabber:  bnmnetp at jabber.org



From cruzin at gmail.com  Sun Feb  6 20:34:40 2005
From: cruzin at gmail.com (Chris Ruzin)
Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 14:34:40 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Re: Re: Export selected text to HTML?
References: 
	<6d9080c385a5401b4ed7a615b1818ce5@macromates.com>
	<0c5a534eef140ca2a31a580924ebd443@hashref.com>
	
	
	<61352fb62579b94b6062b6e5e92eb062@macromates.com>
Message-ID: 

Allan Odgaard wrote:

> There is, and you can reach the path of the bundle to which the command
> belong with $TM_BUNDLE_PATH, so basically just copy it to a bin
> directory of your bundle and call it as
> $TM_BUNDLE_PATH/bin/source-highlight -- though I don't think I should
> include this with TextMate (because it's then a binary distribution of
> a GNU source and I don't want to argue over whether or not TextMate is
> derived work of source-highlight etc.), but I probably should look into
> that system people are requesting about having a Quicksilver-inspired
> system where people can 'look for more bundles'.

I've now started putting together a bundle for this, but whenever I use the
$TM_BUNDLE_PATH, I get the following error:

/bin/bash: line 1: /Users/chris/Library/Application: No such file or
directory

It looks like the $TM_BUNDLE_PATH isn't dealing with spaces correctly.  If I
manually add the path into the command, then it works.

Chris



From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Sun Feb  6 20:35:37 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 12:35:37 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Re: Re: Export selected text to HTML?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<6d9080c385a5401b4ed7a615b1818ce5@macromates.com>
	<0c5a534eef140ca2a31a580924ebd443@hashref.com>
	
	
	<61352fb62579b94b6062b6e5e92eb062@macromates.com>
	
Message-ID: 

At 2:34 PM -0600 2/6/05, Chris Ruzin wrote:
>It looks like the $TM_BUNDLE_PATH isn't dealing with spaces correctly.  If I
>manually add the path into the command, then it works.

If this is in a shell script try "$TM_BUNDLE_PATH". The quotes should 
fix things 99% of the time.

best, Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From cruzin at gmail.com  Sun Feb  6 20:53:08 2005
From: cruzin at gmail.com (Chris Ruzin)
Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 14:53:08 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Re: Re: Export selected text to HTML?
References: 
	<6d9080c385a5401b4ed7a615b1818ce5@macromates.com>
	<0c5a534eef140ca2a31a580924ebd443@hashref.com>
	
	
	<61352fb62579b94b6062b6e5e92eb062@macromates.com>
	
	
Message-ID: 

Eric Hsu wrote:

> At 2:34 PM -0600 2/6/05, Chris Ruzin wrote:
>>It looks like the $TM_BUNDLE_PATH isn't dealing with spaces correctly.  If
>>I manually add the path into the command, then it works.
> 
> If this is in a shell script try "$TM_BUNDLE_PATH". The quotes should
> fix things 99% of the time.

This worked! Now to get the rest of the bundle going...



From cruzin at gmail.com  Sun Feb  6 22:23:15 2005
From: cruzin at gmail.com (Chris Ruzin)
Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 16:23:15 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Re: Export selected text to HTML?
References: 
Message-ID: 

I have now put together a bundle that will enable you to export selected
text as either HTML or XHTML.  It uses the source-highlight utility that
Xavier pointed out.  It's not foolproof though.  A single quote in a
commented line in a Perl document screwed up the result in one test, but
there's nothing I can do about that.

This is my first attempt at a TM bundle, so go easy on me.  Try it out and
let me know if it works.  I've tested it with C, C++, Perl, PHP and Ruby
files and except for the above mentioned mistake, everything worked.

Thanks to Allan, Eric and Xavier for their help.

You can get it here:

www.chrisruzin.net/sh.tmbundle.tgz

- Chris



From textmate-2004 at ryandesign.com  Sun Feb  6 22:42:58 2005
From: textmate-2004 at ryandesign.com (Ryan Schmidt)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 23:42:58 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Atomic Saving /  Saving Question
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
Message-ID: <8873d3ea248113a635bc4c01c5e0bf85@ryandesign.com>

On 01.02.2005, at 11:57, Sune Foldager wrote:

> On 1. feb 2005, at 5:26, Paul Kline wrote:
>
>> What is atomic saving?
>
> Atomic saving makes sure that the old version of the file on disk is  
> replaced with the new one in on, atomic, operation. This is sometimes  
> needed when the files you are writing might at the same time be read  
> by other running programs. Technically it's writing the file with  
> another name, then renaming the new file into the old file (destroying  
> the old file in the process).
>
> The disadvantage of atomic saves (for some), is that the file gets a  
> new inode-number each time which will break hard-links and might upset  
> aliases if they are not pointing correctly.

Apple has been promoting this practice for ten years or more, and  
aliases have always worked with it in the past. As I understand it,  
part of the reason for Apple providing a function to do this is  
specifically so that aliases continue to function. The documentation  
[1] says that the "file ID" is preserved, though I don't know if that's  
the same thing as an "inode number."


[1]  
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/Reference/File_Manager/ 
file_manager/function_group_21.html



From chris at m-audio.com  Mon Feb  7 04:09:28 2005
From: chris at m-audio.com (Chris Thomas)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 20:09:28 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Atomic Saving /  Saving Question
In-Reply-To: <8873d3ea248113a635bc4c01c5e0bf85@ryandesign.com>
References: 
	
	<8873d3ea248113a635bc4c01c5e0bf85@ryandesign.com>
Message-ID: 


On Feb 6, 2005, at 2:42 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:

> On 01.02.2005, at 11:57, Sune Foldager wrote:
>> On 1. feb 2005, at 5:26, Paul Kline wrote:
>>> What is atomic saving?
>> Atomic saving makes sure that the old version of the file on disk is  
>> replaced with the new one in on, atomic, operation. This is sometimes  
>> needed when the files you are writing might at the same time be read  
>> by other running programs. Technically it's writing the file with  
>> another name, then renaming the new file into the old file  
>> (destroying the old file in the process).
>> The disadvantage of atomic saves (for some), is that the file gets a  
>> new inode-number each time which will break hard-links and might  
>> upset aliases if they are not pointing correctly.
> Apple has been promoting this practice for ten years or more, and  
> aliases have always worked with it in the past. As I understand it,  
> part of the reason for Apple providing a function to do this is  
> specifically so that aliases continue to function. The documentation  
> [1] says that the "file ID" is preserved, though I don't know if  
> that's the same thing as an "inode number."

Yup, the "atomic save" checkbox could go away, or at least default to  
"on."

> [1]  
> http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/Reference/ 
> File_Manager/file_manager/function_group_21.html

man exchangedata provides better background information. exchangedata  
is the core VFS implementation of FSExchangeObject; it may be easier to  
call from Cocoa.

Chris



From chris at m-audio.com  Mon Feb  7 04:11:16 2005
From: chris at m-audio.com (Chris Thomas)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 20:11:16 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Atomic Saving /  Saving Question
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
	<8873d3ea248113a635bc4c01c5e0bf85@ryandesign.com>
	
Message-ID: 


On Feb 6, 2005, at 8:09 PM, Chris Thomas wrote:

> On Feb 6, 2005, at 2:42 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
>> On 01.02.2005, at 11:57, Sune Foldager wrote:
>>> On 1. feb 2005, at 5:26, Paul Kline wrote:
>>>> What is atomic saving?
>>> Atomic saving makes sure that the old version of the file on disk is  
>>> replaced with the new one in on, atomic, operation. This is  
>>> sometimes needed when the files you are writing might at the same  
>>> time be read by other running programs. Technically it's writing the  
>>> file with another name, then renaming the new file into the old file  
>>> (destroying the old file in the process).
>>> The disadvantage of atomic saves (for some), is that the file gets a  
>>> new inode-number each time which will break hard-links and might  
>>> upset aliases if they are not pointing correctly.
>> Apple has been promoting this practice for ten years or more, and  
>> aliases have always worked with it in the past. As I understand it,  
>> part of the reason for Apple providing a function to do this is  
>> specifically so that aliases continue to function. The documentation  
>> [1] says that the "file ID" is preserved, though I don't know if  
>> that's the same thing as an "inode number."
> Yup, the "atomic save" checkbox could go away, or at least default to  
> "on."
>> [1]  
>> http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/Reference/ 
>> File_Manager/file_manager/function_group_21.html
> man exchangedata provides better background information. exchangedata  
> is the core VFS implementation of FSExchangeObject; it may be easier  
> to call from Cocoa.

Eh, it occurs to me that man page may not be installed on Panther. Go  
here instead:

http://developer.apple.com/qa/qa2001/qa1327.html

Chris



From fxn at hashref.com  Mon Feb  7 07:45:39 2005
From: fxn at hashref.com (Xavier Noria)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 08:45:39 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Re: Export selected text to HTML?
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
Message-ID: <8889d457e2dea225ffbe522fac33eb51@hashref.com>

On Feb 6, 2005, at 23:23, Chris Ruzin wrote:

> Xavier pointed out.  It's not foolproof though.  A single quote in a
> commented line in a Perl document screwed up the result in one test, 
> but
> there's nothing I can do about that.

Yeah, Perltidy is the most robust Perl HTML colorizer AFAIK, the others 
I've tried are easily screwed up.

-- fxn



From mats at imediatec.co.uk  Mon Feb  7 12:25:36 2005
From: mats at imediatec.co.uk (Mats Persson)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 12:25:36 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Feature Request: Open Recent Files/Projects implementation
	idea
Message-ID: 


I know this is probably on Allan's To Do list, and was mentioned not 
too long ago by others, but I haven't found the actual implementation 
discussed anywhere. So here goes my 2 cent worth of ideas.

I think the ideal implementation of this feature is just like the Apple 
implementation in the Apple Menu's - Recent Items. The applications (= 
projects) and the files (= TM single non-project files opened) are 
separated as sub-menus of the menu item. Nice, clean and easy to use.

The settings for the number of items stored in each sub-menu should 
then be set in the Preferences window, something along the line of what 
is in System Preferences - Appearance -> Number of Recent Items:

For the past month or so I've been working with 3 projects opened at 
all times. Then over the weekend I closed them down and looked through 
some new code from a friend. As a result, I now have to 'go hunting' 
for the .tmproj files through the Finder. I know, it doesn't stop me 
from working, but this is just some basic 'spit & polish' to correct a 
minor workflow problem in an otherwise fantastic app.

Kind regards,

Mats

----
"TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
- www.macromates.com -



From rdwalton at gmail.com  Mon Feb  7 13:07:12 2005
From: rdwalton at gmail.com (Rob Walton)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 06:07:12 -0700
Subject: [TxMt] Inline PDF
Message-ID: <58b50214050207050778a0315c@mail.gmail.com>

Can textmate show pdf files inline?  If so, does it work with apples
pdf replacement services?

Thanks


From torsten.becker at gmail.com  Mon Feb  7 14:28:38 2005
From: torsten.becker at gmail.com (Torsten Becker)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:28:38 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Inline PDF
In-Reply-To: <58b50214050207050778a0315c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <58b50214050207050778a0315c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 06:07, Rob Walton wrote:
> Can textmate show pdf files inline?

AFAIK not, but you probably could write a command which opens a
pdf and then inserts its content as plaintext.
(this isnt a official answer, its just AFAIK)

-- 
Torsten Becker
(novaa on freenode)


From cryo at cyanite.org  Mon Feb  7 15:12:36 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 16:12:36 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Atomic Saving /  Saving Question
In-Reply-To: <8873d3ea248113a635bc4c01c5e0bf85@ryandesign.com>
References: 
	
	<8873d3ea248113a635bc4c01c5e0bf85@ryandesign.com>
Message-ID: <319b2e7e58c94f571b9efcf8ac88ab66@cyanite.org>

On 6. feb 2005, at 23:42, Ryan Schmidt wrote:

> On 01.02.2005, at 11:57, Sune Foldager wrote:
>> The disadvantage of atomic saves (for some), is that the file gets a 
>> new inode-number each time which will break hard-links and might 
>> upset aliases if they are not pointing correctly.
>
> Apple has been promoting this practice for ten years or more, and 
> aliases have always worked with it in the past.

Yes, because aliases check location first, inode second (used to be the 
other way around in OS9-). So yes, atomic saves in this fashion will 
not break aliases, but will break hard links of course. Symbolic links 
are also untouched.

> As I understand it, part of the reason for Apple providing a function 
> to do this is specifically so that aliases continue to function.

Well... Apple's function does it the same way as I described, which is 
also what their doc says. This has been a pretty standard way for a 
long time also on UNIX. Of course abstraction is always good, and who 
knows, maybe sometime the file system might support atomic saves 
directly. Incidentally that would pose a problem since now you can be 
_sure_ atomic saves break hard links, but you can't otherwise. Then a 
system function to break a hard link might be needed.

> The documentation [1] says that the "file ID" is preserved, though I 
> don't know if that's the same thing as an "inode number."

Well it can't be since inodes are not preserved by atomic saves in this 
fashion.

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From cryo at cyanite.org  Mon Feb  7 15:13:22 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 16:13:22 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Atomic Saving /  Saving Question
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
	<8873d3ea248113a635bc4c01c5e0bf85@ryandesign.com>
	
Message-ID: <0525074069678ddfcc1a53b248939cbf@cyanite.org>

On 7. feb 2005, at 5:09, Chris Thomas wrote:
> Yup, the "atomic save" checkbox could go away, or at least default to 
> "on."

No it shouldn't go away; some people don't need the atomicity and don't 
want their hard-links broken.

-- 
Sune.



From torsten.becker at gmail.com  Mon Feb  7 15:25:15 2005
From: torsten.becker at gmail.com (Torsten Becker)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 16:25:15 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Feature Request: Open Folder via Command-O
Message-ID: 

Hi Allan,

I know, you probably have to do other things concerning
TM development but I have one thing which I would like to
see because it now very often annoyed me:
   Opening a Folder via the Open-Menu.

It happens very often that I want so open several files at
once but the only way to do this is to mark them all in the
open-dialog via Command-A, but then I can't browse the sub-folders.

So my request is that I can fire up the open-dialog via
Command-O (like ATM) and then also can select folders
and start a new project this way.


-- 
Torsten Becker
(novaa on freenode)


From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Mon Feb  7 15:32:54 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 07:32:54 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Inline PDF
In-Reply-To: 
References: <58b50214050207050778a0315c@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: 

At 3:28 PM +0100 2/7/05, Torsten Becker wrote:
>  > Can textmate show pdf files inline?
>
>AFAIK not, but you probably could write a command which opens a
>pdf and then inserts its content as plaintext.

It depends on what you mean by inline. It can web-preview PDF files. 
The key example is the file



which previews the PDF file /tmp/test.pdf.  You can be more tricky 
and modify this example to have commands output PDF through the 
'output is HTML' command; an example is the PDF LaTeX in the LaTeX 
Bundle.

I think Allan may eventually make TM open PDF directly as it's pretty 
much there if you have the Schubert PDF Browser Plugin.

What are apple's PDF Replacement Services? I know about the PDF 
Services discussed at . If 
you describe what you want to happen, maybe we can collectively 
figure out how to do it.

This little editor is full of surprises!

- Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From allan at macromates.com  Mon Feb  7 16:30:55 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:30:55 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Atomic Saving /  Saving Question
In-Reply-To: <0525074069678ddfcc1a53b248939cbf@cyanite.org>
References: 
	
	<8873d3ea248113a635bc4c01c5e0bf85@ryandesign.com>
	
	<0525074069678ddfcc1a53b248939cbf@cyanite.org>
Message-ID: <26da43bf51a0a4ea31588c996bcc2f2c@macromates.com>

On Feb 7, 2005, at 16:13, Sune Foldager wrote:

>> Yup, the "atomic save" checkbox could go away, or at least default to 
>> "on."
> No it shouldn't go away; some people don't need the atomicity and 
> don't want their hard-links broken.

Also, it causes the icon to be re-arranged in Finder when the file is 
saved using the 'atomically' version provided by Cocoa, and it fails if 
the user has no write access to the directory (but only the file).



From jeroen at je-ju.net  Mon Feb  7 16:33:37 2005
From: jeroen at je-ju.net (Jeroen van der Ham)
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:33:37 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Feature Request: Open Folder via Command-O
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <42079861.8010209@je-ju.net>

On 07-02-2005 16:25, Torsten Becker wrote:
> It happens very often that I want so open several files at
> once but the only way to do this is to mark them all in the
> open-dialog via Command-A, but then I can't browse the sub-folders.

I don't know if you use Quicksilver, but I recently found out that you 
can also use the "," key to create lists of files on which you can do an 
action, e.g. open in textmate.

And of course you can always open folders with textmate using QS.

Jeroen.
-- 
                "We apologize for the inconvenience"
             (See "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy")


From allan at macromates.com  Mon Feb  7 16:39:58 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:39:58 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Feature Request: Open Recent Files/Projects implementation
	idea
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

On Feb 7, 2005, at 13:25, Mats Persson wrote:

> I think the ideal implementation of this feature is just like the 
> Apple implementation in the Apple Menu's - Recent Items [...]

Unfortunately the recent items menu is an OS feature and if I want to 
split it up into project/document, I'd have to re-invent it myself, but 
that means I'd have to figure out which settings the OS version 
supports (like number of recent items), how Finder gets the recent 
items from applications, how recent items are serialized into my 
preferences (from where e.g Quicksilver reads them) etc.

So this is one of these, a lot of work re-inventing my own, because 
Apple's version currently lack a little flexibility.

It may eventually be done, but currently the benefit/work seems to low 
compared to other stuff that competes for my time.



From allan at macromates.com  Mon Feb  7 16:44:45 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:44:45 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Command Chooser?
In-Reply-To: <92fa4ddad51bedb2d1838549a1d490f8@mac.com>
References: <92fa4ddad51bedb2d1838549a1d490f8@mac.com>
Message-ID: <69109372619c56ff082f208670e6532d@macromates.com>

On Feb 6, 2005, at 20:07, Brad Miller wrote:

> Here's a suggestion that came to me this morning. How about applying 
> the wonderful logic in the file chooser to commands and macros?  I was 
> thinking of it being very much like Quicksilver for TextMate commands.

Ah yes -- but how is this best done? intermixed with files? only 
Command/Snippet/Macro intermixed with files and these give a 'submenu' 
(i.e. arrow right change the content)? And should each submenu show all 
items (maybe with the bundle as prefix)?



From mats at imediatec.co.uk  Mon Feb  7 17:14:47 2005
From: mats at imediatec.co.uk (Mats Persson)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:14:47 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Feature Request: Open Recent Files/Projects implementation
	idea
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
Message-ID: 


On 7 Feb 2005, at 16:39, Allan Odgaard wrote:
> On Feb 7, 2005, at 13:25, Mats Persson wrote:
>> I think the ideal implementation of this feature is just like the 
>> Apple implementation in the Apple Menu's - Recent Items [...]
>
> Unfortunately the recent items menu is an OS feature and if I want to 
> split it up into project/document, I'd have to re-invent it myself, 
> but that means I'd have to figure out which settings the OS version 
> supports (like number of recent items), how Finder gets the recent 
> items from applications, how recent items are serialized into my 
> preferences (from where e.g Quicksilver reads them) etc.

Allan, I guess either me or you have misunderstood each other here. So 
let me clarify my position just in case it's not me : )

I was advocating an implementation solution LIKE the Apple Menu's 
Recent Items, rather than implementing the Apple Menu settings or 
anything like it.

The way I see this whole thing in my admittedly naive eyes is something 
like this.  When TM opens a new file or project file it somehow stores 
this info in the current "Open Recent" menu items. If TM could at the 
point of opening the file determine if it is opening a .tmproj file or 
a basic file, then it could store/display that file name under the 
"Open Recent -> Projects" section of the menu, whereas normal files 
could be dealt with normally.

Menu implementation:

Open Recent ->   Projects (dimmed)
				  proj1
				  proj2
				Files (dimmed)
				  file1
				  file2

As for the number of remembered items, I guess it would be OK with 10 
each rather than making it a preference setting.


> It may eventually be done, but currently the benefit/work seems to low 
> compared to other stuff that competes for my time.

No worries, I just thought it was one of those nice little things that 
we (?) really like about our OS X experience that is currently missing 
in TM, and I originally thought it might be easy & quick to implement. 
But TM has a lot of other little niceties going for it anyway so it can 
survive without it.


Kind regards,

Mats

----
"TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
- www.macromates.com -



From chris at m-audio.com  Mon Feb  7 17:29:45 2005
From: chris at m-audio.com (Chris Thomas)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 09:29:45 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Atomic Saving /  Saving Question
In-Reply-To: <319b2e7e58c94f571b9efcf8ac88ab66@cyanite.org>
References: 
	
	<8873d3ea248113a635bc4c01c5e0bf85@ryandesign.com>
	<319b2e7e58c94f571b9efcf8ac88ab66@cyanite.org>
Message-ID: <463B5844-029F-48CB-9E65-96A52805B966@m-audio.com>


On Feb 7, 2005, at 7:12 AM, Sune Foldager wrote:

> On 6. feb 2005, at 23:42, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
>> On 01.02.2005, at 11:57, Sune Foldager wrote:
>>> The disadvantage of atomic saves (for some), is that the file gets a 
>>> new inode-number each time which will break hard-links and might 
>>> upset aliases if they are not pointing correctly.
>> Apple has been promoting this practice for ten years or more, and 
>> aliases have always worked with it in the past.
> Yes, because aliases check location first, inode second (used to be 
> the other way around in OS9-). So yes, atomic saves in this fashion 
> will not break aliases, but will break hard links of course. Symbolic 
> links are also untouched.

Aliases store the file ID on HFS volumes. The change to alias 
resolution ordering was a user interface decision -- if I have an alias 
to a copy of TextMate, and I throw out the copy of TextMate, and place 
a new copy of TextMate in the location of the old TextMate, I might 
reasonably want the alias to point to the new copy of TextMate, rather 
than the old one in the Trash.

However, it appears that this discussion is academic, because HFS+'s 
implementation of exchangedata actually returns an error if one of the 
files is hardlinked.

Chris



From torsten.becker at gmail.com  Mon Feb  7 19:57:01 2005
From: torsten.becker at gmail.com (Torsten Becker)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 20:57:01 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Feature Request: Open Folder via Command-O
In-Reply-To: <42079861.8010209@je-ju.net>
References: 
	<42079861.8010209@je-ju.net>
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:33, Jeroen van der Ham wrote:
> I don't know if you use Quicksilver, but I recently found out that you
> can also use the "," key to create lists of files on which you can do an
> action, e.g. open in textmate.

Yes, I use it and didn't know of this tweak. :)  You also could drag
a folder from the Finder, but I think it would be nicer to be able to open
folders also via the dialog.

-- 
Torsten Becker
(novaa on freenode)


From bonelake at mac.com  Mon Feb  7 21:11:18 2005
From: bonelake at mac.com (Brad Miller)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:11:18 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Command Chooser?
In-Reply-To: <69109372619c56ff082f208670e6532d@macromates.com>
References: <92fa4ddad51bedb2d1838549a1d490f8@mac.com>
	<69109372619c56ff082f208670e6532d@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <1406ee115e92b088559e23c5c61814e0@mac.com>


On Feb 7, 2005, at 10:44 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 6, 2005, at 20:07, Brad Miller wrote:
>
>> Here's a suggestion that came to me this morning. How about applying 
>> the wonderful logic in the file chooser to commands and macros?  I 
>> was thinking of it being very much like Quicksilver for TextMate 
>> commands.
>
> Ah yes -- but how is this best done? intermixed with files? only 
> Command/Snippet/Macro intermixed with files and these give a 'submenu' 
> (i.e. arrow right change the content)? And should each submenu show 
> all items (maybe with the bundle as prefix)?
>
When I was thinking about this, I was thinking of it as a completely 
separate from files.  So command-T to use the file chooser, and 
command-M to use the command chooser (for example).  The idea is one 
easily accessible keystroke that lets me search commands.  I'm not even 
sure you would want to include snippets would you?

I think the same interface used for files could display the closest 
matching,/only matching command (along with the bundle it comes from 
and the pre-programmed keystroke)  I would also have it only show 
commands from bundles that are enabled.

I'm imagining that you would type enough keystrokes that a short flat 
display would show you all the matches, so you would not need any 
hierarchical submenus.  QS, for example, guesses right  95% of the 
time, and 99% of the time the thing I want is in the top four or five 
items on the list of possibilities.

Brad

> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>
Brad Miller, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor, Computer Science
Luther College
http://www.cs.luther.edu/~bmiller



From kmcmillan at leapfrogonline.com  Mon Feb  7 21:18:48 2005
From: kmcmillan at leapfrogonline.com (kumar mcmillan)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:18:48 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Command Chooser?
In-Reply-To: <69109372619c56ff082f208670e6532d@macromates.com>
References: <92fa4ddad51bedb2d1838549a1d490f8@mac.com>
	<69109372619c56ff082f208670e6532d@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <17f2ec15640ec53b6192f4a3abce10ef@leapfrogonline.com>


On Feb 7, 2005, at 10:44 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 6, 2005, at 20:07, Brad Miller wrote:
>
>> Here's a suggestion that came to me this morning. How about applying 
>> the wonderful logic in the file chooser to commands and macros?  I 
>> was thinking of it being very much like Quicksilver for TextMate 
>> commands.
>
> Ah yes -- but how is this best done? intermixed with files? only 
> Command/Snippet/Macro intermixed with files and these give a 'submenu' 
> (i.e. arrow right change the content)? And should each submenu show 
> all items (maybe with the bundle as prefix)?

I like the idea too ...

perhaps best would be a separate launch window for each "domain", one 
for Commands, one for Snippets, Macros, File Choosing, etc. They would 
each have their own key commands for invocation.  I'm not sure about 
the sub-grouping of commands/snippets, but what does File Chooser do 
about identical filenames in separate project directories?  (I 
obviously haven't played with the beta too much).  Perhaps, descending 
into subdirectories of snippets/commands won't be an issue if File 
Chooser already handles duplicate name conflicts gracefully.

k



From BrunosJunk at Bronosky.com  Mon Feb  7 23:09:50 2005
From: BrunosJunk at Bronosky.com (Bruno Bronosky)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 18:09:50 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] TextMate friendly FTP clients
Message-ID: <3d85c7d0c6990dd44444f7a40cad1e6f@Bronosky.com>

I'm looking for something to replace Transmit, since TextMate won't 
work as one of it's external editors.  I need an ftp client that will 
upload when TextMate Saves.

(Sorry, Allan I know you made suggestions via IRC, but I closed that 
window.  I think this topic deserves to be in the list archives 
anyway.)

Thank you,

--==<< R i c h a r d B r o n o s k y >>==--

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From bonelake at mac.com  Mon Feb  7 23:24:24 2005
From: bonelake at mac.com (Brad Miller)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:24:24 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] TextMate friendly FTP clients
In-Reply-To: <3d85c7d0c6990dd44444f7a40cad1e6f@Bronosky.com>
References: <3d85c7d0c6990dd44444f7a40cad1e6f@Bronosky.com>
Message-ID: <615f3ec50a7132dddd529454a7afd50f@mac.com>

I just purchased YummyFTP.

It supports both ftp and sftp
You can easily configure it to use TextMate
You can also configure YummyFTP so that when you double-click a file in 
its browser it will open the file for editing.
You can also have it create an empty file on the server for you to edit.

It seems to have other nice features, like synchronization,  download 
queuing, and file filtering, but I haven't explored them very much yet.

Does anyone know if there is a client out there that you can use to 
load an save wiki pages?  jEdit had a nice plugin for the wiki I use 
for my classes that allowed me to load the page by URL, then edit and 
save the page from jEdit.  It was much nicer than using the browsers 
text entry field.  I suppose I could use the TextMate Service, but I 
was wondering whether anyone knew of anything else that could work with 
TextMate.

Thanks,

Brad

On Feb 7, 2005, at 5:09 PM, Bruno Bronosky wrote:

> I'm looking for something to replace Transmit, since TextMate won't 
> work as one of it's external editors.  I need an ftp client that will 
> upload when TextMate Saves.
>
> (Sorry, Allan I know you made suggestions via IRC, but I closed that 
> window.  I think this topic deserves to be in the list archives 
> anyway.)
>
> Thank you,
>
> --==<< R i c h a r d B r o n o s k y >>==--
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
Brad Miller, PhD
Assistant Professor
Luther College
http://www.cs.luther.edu/~bmiller
jabber:  bnmnetp at jabber.org
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From donkalar at gmail.com  Mon Feb  7 23:24:45 2005
From: donkalar at gmail.com (Don Kalar)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:24:45 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] TextMate friendly FTP clients
In-Reply-To: <3d85c7d0c6990dd44444f7a40cad1e6f@Bronosky.com>
References: <3d85c7d0c6990dd44444f7a40cad1e6f@Bronosky.com>
Message-ID: <63b46a15050207152479d40cd5@mail.gmail.com>

http://macromates.com/wiki/pmwiki?n=Main.TextMateAwarePrograms

-d


From nemo at mechintosh.com  Mon Feb  7 23:29:33 2005
From: nemo at mechintosh.com (M Spreij)
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 00:29:33 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] TextMate friendly FTP clients
In-Reply-To: <3d85c7d0c6990dd44444f7a40cad1e6f@Bronosky.com>
References: <3d85c7d0c6990dd44444f7a40cad1e6f@Bronosky.com>
Message-ID: <4207F9DD.8050907@mechintosh.com>

Bruno Bronosky wrote:
> I'm looking for something to replace Transmit, since TextMate won't work 
> as one of it's external editors.  I need an ftp client that will upload 
> when TextMate Saves.

Interarchy  has served me well for years.. 
's got a couple additional features that are nice as well, such as.. ah, 
look here:
http://www.interarchy.com/main/features

/MS


From rdwalton at gmail.com  Tue Feb  8 00:14:01 2005
From: rdwalton at gmail.com (Rob Walton)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:14:01 -0700
Subject: [TxMt] Inline PDF
In-Reply-To: 
References: <58b50214050207050778a0315c@mail.gmail.com>
	
	
Message-ID: <58b5021405020716141f1a3420@mail.gmail.com>

Woah, quick response! Thanks.

I would like to be able to preview latex equations as I'm writing.  I
really like writing latex, but can't wrap my mind around all the
brackets in latex equations.  There is a service called "equation
service".  In the text editor, you highlight the text you would like
previewed and call the equation service.  It cuts the highlighted text
into the clipboard, turns it into a pdf, and then copies this into the
clipboard and pastes it into your document.  The result is that you
see a typset equation rather than a mess of latex code.  When it
creates the pdf, it stores the latex code you orignially typed in the
pdf.  This way, equation service can be recalled on the pdf preview,
this time replacing it with the orignal latex code so you can edit it.

Under emacs this functionality is provided by an addon called
preview-latex which is brilliant (
http://preview-latex.sourceforge.net/ ).  However, I'm fed up with
emacs and would like to try a cocoa based editor, as they are way more
easily applescripted.

The webpage for equation service is
http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/EquationService/

- Rob

P.S. (I may have imagined  PDF Replacement Services.  The equation
service home page talks of a program either supporing or not "text ->
PDF services".  I have looked on apples developer site and found no
reference of this.)


From allan at macromates.com  Tue Feb  8 00:52:54 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 01:52:54 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Inline PDF
In-Reply-To: <58b5021405020716141f1a3420@mail.gmail.com>
References: <58b50214050207050778a0315c@mail.gmail.com>
	
	
	<58b5021405020716141f1a3420@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9ba418f5e172877617f436c0a9b63caa@macromates.com>

On Feb 8, 2005, at 1:14, Rob Walton wrote:

> I would like to be able to preview latex equations as I'm writing.  I
> really like writing latex, but can't wrap my mind around all the
> brackets in latex equations.  There is a service called "equation
> service".  In the text editor, you highlight the text you would like
> previewed and call the equation service.  It cuts the highlighted text
> into the clipboard, turns it into a pdf, and then copies this into the
> clipboard and pastes it into your document [...]

You can't display PDF inline like that, so TextMate won't work with  
this service. You can however mimic the service from inside TextMate  
and use the HTML output option to display the equation, if you have the  
PDF browser plugin installed.

I created a new command (in TextMate) with input set to selection and  
output to show as HTML and then the actual command(s) like this:

cd ~/Library/Application\ Support/Equation\ Service/Output
cat >myeqn.tex
cp ../Templates/pdflatex/basemathmode.tex .
pdflatex basemathmode.tex
echo ''

It writes the selected text to myeqn.tex (in the output directory for  
the Equation Service), copies over the basemathmode template, runs  
pdflatex on this template (which inputs myeqn.tex) and then outputs an  
HTML header that makes the HTML output window 'redirect' to the PDF  
file, which triggers the PDF browser plugin.

That said, when I tested this, I got black rectangles instead of digits  
in the output (but the symbols were okay). Though I also get that when  
I use the service directly (i.e. outside TextMate), and pdflatex does  
give a 'this is obsolete'-warning, so I think the templates from ES  
just needs to be updated to the latest pdflatex (distribution).



From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Tue Feb  8 01:57:26 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:57:26 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] TextMate friendly FTP clients
In-Reply-To: <615f3ec50a7132dddd529454a7afd50f@mac.com>
References: <3d85c7d0c6990dd44444f7a40cad1e6f@Bronosky.com>
	<615f3ec50a7132dddd529454a7afd50f@mac.com>
Message-ID: 

At 5:24 PM -0600 2/7/05, Brad Miller wrote:
>Does anyone know if there is a client out there that you can use to 
>load an save wiki pages?  jEdit had a nice plugin for the wiki I use 
>for my classes that allowed me to load the page by URL, then edit 
>and save the page from jEdit.  It was much nicer than using the 
>browsers text entry field.  I suppose I could use the TextMate 
>Service, but I was wondering whether anyone knew of anything else 
>that could work with TextMate.

One could probably straightforwardly hack something together with 
curl and TM commands to issue the correct commands via GET. You'll 
probably need to include more information to get further help on that 
particular wiki...

best, Eric

ps. I've been using Cyberduck, with its 'edit in TM' function. They 
play nicely together.
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From blalor at bravo5.org  Tue Feb  8 11:04:27 2005
From: blalor at bravo5.org (Brian Lalor)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 06:04:27 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] TextMate friendly FTP clients
In-Reply-To: <3d85c7d0c6990dd44444f7a40cad1e6f@Bronosky.com>
References: <3d85c7d0c6990dd44444f7a40cad1e6f@Bronosky.com>
Message-ID: <50ad85b291c09f743899336ab72bd88c@bravo5.org>

On Feb 7, 2005, at 6:09 PM, Bruno Bronosky wrote:

> I'm looking for something to replace Transmit, since TextMate won't 
> work as one of it's external editors.  I need an ftp client that will 
> upload when TextMate Saves.

I'll echo Eric's recommendation.  Cyberduck does all this for free. :-)

-- 
     __   ____
    / /  / __/ Brian Lalor
   / _ \/__ \  blalor at bravo5.org
  /_.__/____/  http://bravo5.org/



From paul at archivistes.com  Tue Feb  8 11:19:23 2005
From: paul at archivistes.com (Paul Nordstrom August)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:19:23 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] TextMate friendly FTP clients --NB Fugu
In-Reply-To: <50ad85b291c09f743899336ab72bd88c@bravo5.org>
References: <3d85c7d0c6990dd44444f7a40cad1e6f@Bronosky.com>
	<50ad85b291c09f743899336ab72bd88c@bravo5.org>
Message-ID: <701a0a879c496ae1ff4a31bbb75b418f@archivistes.com>

Don't forget freeware FUGU (with great icon BTW) for SFTP. TM works 
fine in it.
I use Cyberduck for standard FTP.

On 8 Feb 2005, at 12:04, Brian Lalor wrote:

>> I'm looking for something to replace Transmit, since TextMate won't 
>> work as one of it's external editors.  I need an ftp client that will 
>> upload when TextMate Saves.
>
> I'll echo Eric's recommendation.  Cyberduck does all this for free. :-)



From james at grayproductions.net  Tue Feb  8 15:39:28 2005
From: james at grayproductions.net (James Edward Gray II)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 09:39:28 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] "Smart" Typing
Message-ID: <9371e0691617a290c188e6df6974aadd@grayproductions.net>

Hello.  I'm a new TextMate user, still trying to get the hang of using 
an automation heavy editor.  I've run into a few questions as I'm 
getting use to the program and even managed to answer most of them 
myself, with a little playing around.  One is still tripping me up 
though, so I thought I would ask.

I have Smart Typing turned on and am trying to figure out if I like it. 
  Most of the time, it's fine, but there are times when I don't want the 
pair, like the apostrophes in this sentence.  Is there any way to get 
it not the add the closing marker for a single keystroke?

Thanks.

James Edward Gray II



From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Tue Feb  8 16:27:50 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 08:27:50 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] TextMate friendly FTP clients --NB Fugu
In-Reply-To: <701a0a879c496ae1ff4a31bbb75b418f@archivistes.com>
References: <3d85c7d0c6990dd44444f7a40cad1e6f@Bronosky.com>
	<50ad85b291c09f743899336ab72bd88c@bravo5.org>
	<701a0a879c496ae1ff4a31bbb75b418f@archivistes.com>
Message-ID: 

At 12:19 PM +0100 2/8/05, Paul Nordstrom August wrote:
>Don't forget freeware FUGU (with great icon BTW) for SFTP. TM works 
>fine in it.
>I use Cyberduck for standard FTP.

Fugu's icon is fantastic. Cyberduck has a confusing icon if you also 
use Adium. :)

Note that (as you imply) Fugu doesn't do FTP, whereas Cyberduck does 
do both FTP and SFTP.  CD also talks to Growl, which I'm not yet sure 
if I like. Basically, I use it since it's all in one.

I used to think the 'Edit in TM' option of an FTP client was pretty 
useless, but I've been using it a lot more than I would have thought.

- Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From cryo at cyanite.org  Tue Feb  8 17:00:22 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:00:22 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Atomic Saving /  Saving Question
In-Reply-To: <463B5844-029F-48CB-9E65-96A52805B966@m-audio.com>
References: 
	
	<8873d3ea248113a635bc4c01c5e0bf85@ryandesign.com>
	<319b2e7e58c94f571b9efcf8ac88ab66@cyanite.org>
	<463B5844-029F-48CB-9E65-96A52805B966@m-audio.com>
Message-ID: <356fc08e12fa63ebb08605b33f53e16d@cyanite.org>

On 7. feb 2005, at 18:29, Chris Thomas wrote:

> However, it appears that this discussion is academic, because HFS+'s 
> implementation of exchangedata actually returns an error if one of the 
> files is hardlinked.

Huh? If I have file A hard linked with B and I "atomically" replace A 
(i.e. write A.new, move A.new to A) then I will break the link between 
A and B. That's the issue here, and that's certainly what happens in 
the scenario I just described :-). No HFS+ errors here.

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From cryo at cyanite.org  Tue Feb  8 17:01:36 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:01:36 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Atomic Saving /  Saving Question
In-Reply-To: <26da43bf51a0a4ea31588c996bcc2f2c@macromates.com>
References: 
	
	<8873d3ea248113a635bc4c01c5e0bf85@ryandesign.com>
	
	<0525074069678ddfcc1a53b248939cbf@cyanite.org>
	<26da43bf51a0a4ea31588c996bcc2f2c@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <2979fd052033cbf1db3f45da3e7ce5c1@cyanite.org>

On 7. feb 2005, at 17:30, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 7, 2005, at 16:13, Sune Foldager wrote:
>
>>> Yup, the "atomic save" checkbox could go away, or at least default 
>>> to "on."
>> No it shouldn't go away; some people don't need the atomicity and 
>> don't want their hard-links broken.
>
> Also, it causes the icon to be re-arranged in Finder when the file is 
> saved using the 'atomically' version provided by Cocoa, and it fails 
> if the user has no write access to the directory (but only the file).

Exactly a good reason not to ditch the setting; Obviously, Cocoa and 
Finder have some issues with eachother at times, and this is another 
one. Especially tricky is the case (which probably rarely happens 
except on remote drives) where you have +w on the file but not on its 
directory. I believe TM will fall back to non-atomic writes in this 
case?

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From cryo at cyanite.org  Tue Feb  8 17:04:09 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:04:09 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Command Chooser?
In-Reply-To: <17f2ec15640ec53b6192f4a3abce10ef@leapfrogonline.com>
References: <92fa4ddad51bedb2d1838549a1d490f8@mac.com>
	<69109372619c56ff082f208670e6532d@macromates.com>
	<17f2ec15640ec53b6192f4a3abce10ef@leapfrogonline.com>
Message-ID: 

On 7. feb 2005, at 22:18, kumar mcmillan wrote:

>
> On Feb 7, 2005, at 10:44 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote:
>
>> On Feb 6, 2005, at 20:07, Brad Miller wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a suggestion that came to me this morning. How about applying 
>>> the wonderful logic in the file chooser to commands and macros?  I 
>>> was thinking of it being very much like Quicksilver for TextMate 
>>> commands.
>>
>> Ah yes -- but how is this best done? intermixed with files? only 
>> Command/Snippet/Macro intermixed with files and these give a 
>> 'submenu' (i.e. arrow right change the content)? And should each 
>> submenu show all items (maybe with the bundle as prefix)?
>
> I like the idea too ...
> perhaps best would be a separate launch window for each "domain", one 
> for Commands, one for Snippets, Macros, File Choosing, etc.

Only problem is that the concept of snippet tends to run together with 
the concept of command, since the latter can return as snippets. I 
think macro/command/snippet should be unified here.

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From chris at m-audio.com  Tue Feb  8 17:43:54 2005
From: chris at m-audio.com (Chris Thomas)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 09:43:54 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Atomic Saving /  Saving Question
In-Reply-To: <356fc08e12fa63ebb08605b33f53e16d@cyanite.org>
References: 
	
	<8873d3ea248113a635bc4c01c5e0bf85@ryandesign.com>
	<319b2e7e58c94f571b9efcf8ac88ab66@cyanite.org>
	<463B5844-029F-48CB-9E65-96A52805B966@m-audio.com>
	<356fc08e12fa63ebb08605b33f53e16d@cyanite.org>
Message-ID: <5274A6C1-3B75-4C47-959B-B0BB020A49E2@m-audio.com>


On Feb 8, 2005, at 9:00 AM, Sune Foldager wrote:

> On 7. feb 2005, at 18:29, Chris Thomas wrote:
>> However, it appears that this discussion is academic, because HFS+'s 
>> implementation of exchangedata actually returns an error if one of 
>> the files is hardlinked.
> Huh? If I have file A hard linked with B and I "atomically" replace A 
> (i.e. write A.new, move A.new to A) then I will break the link between 
> A and B. That's the issue here, and that's certainly what happens in 
> the scenario I just described :-). No HFS+ errors here.

Right, but I'm talking specifically about the exchangedata system call 
(or FSExchangeObjects). exchangedata is a Darwin VFS operation. It 
calls into the file system implementation to perform the atomic 
exchange. For HFS+, it explicitly preserves the file ID. I had assumed 
it would preserve hardlinks as well, but it turns out that it just 
errors out if one of the files is hardlinked (or has ever been 
hardlinked).

Chris


From allan at macromates.com  Tue Feb  8 18:06:07 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:06:07 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] "Smart" Typing
In-Reply-To: <9371e0691617a290c188e6df6974aadd@grayproductions.net>
References: <9371e0691617a290c188e6df6974aadd@grayproductions.net>
Message-ID: <86db4bb1990545ce683dc2c143f8a940@macromates.com>

On Feb 8, 2005, at 16:39, James Edward Gray II wrote:

> [...] Is there any way to get it not the add the closing marker for a 
> single keystroke?

You can set the auto-pairs in each syntax file per language. E.g. the 
single apostrophe is not present for HTML, nor should it be for plain 
text documents. See Help / Syntax Highlight for more info.

In the future I plan to let them be set-able for individual language 
elements, so e.g. one can turn them off for comments.* etc.



From cryo at cyanite.org  Tue Feb  8 19:05:59 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 20:05:59 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Atomic Saving /  Saving Question
In-Reply-To: <5274A6C1-3B75-4C47-959B-B0BB020A49E2@m-audio.com>
References: 
	
	<8873d3ea248113a635bc4c01c5e0bf85@ryandesign.com>
	<319b2e7e58c94f571b9efcf8ac88ab66@cyanite.org>
	<463B5844-029F-48CB-9E65-96A52805B966@m-audio.com>
	<356fc08e12fa63ebb08605b33f53e16d@cyanite.org>
	<5274A6C1-3B75-4C47-959B-B0BB020A49E2@m-audio.com>
Message-ID: <5190de08133ea1a16bfcb919cf7d9a47@cyanite.org>

On 8. feb 2005, at 18:43, Chris Thomas wrote:

>> Huh? If I have file A hard linked with B and I "atomically" replace A 
>> (i.e. write A.new, move A.new to A) then I will break the link 
>> between A and B. That's the issue here, and that's certainly what 
>> happens in the scenario I just described :-). No HFS+ errors here.
>
> Right, but I'm talking specifically about the exchangedata system call 
> (or FSExchangeObjects). exchangedata is a Darwin VFS operation. It 
> calls into the file system implementation to perform the atomic 
> exchange. For HFS+, it explicitly preserves the file ID. I had assumed 
> it would preserve hardlinks as well, but it turns out that it just 
> errors out if one of the files is hardlinked (or has ever been 
> hardlinked).

I see... interesting. Of course somewhat unfortunate that it fails with 
multilinked files.... then, preserving the id/inode will only help with 
alises (if the file was moved since the alias was created).

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From brycethornton at gmail.com  Tue Feb  8 21:38:27 2005
From: brycethornton at gmail.com (Bryce Thornton)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:38:27 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] "Find in Project..." problem with special characters &
	regular expressions
Message-ID: 

The "Find in Project..." feature has been acting oddly when searching
for strings with "special" characters in them.  I have the "Regular
Expression" box unchecked and the "Ignore Case" box checked.

I have a project with ~100 files in it.  About 75 of those contain the
variable $ROOT_DIR.  When I do a "Find in Project..." and search for
$ROOT_DIR I get three results back.  I really can't figure out what is
special about the three that are returned.  Is the "$" causing a
problem?  I would think that if you are not using regular expressions
that all special characters would be automatically escaped.

That's my first problem.  Here's the second:

I then tried "*\$ROOT_DIR*" with the regular expression box checked
just to see what would happen.  I realize that this doesn't make much
sense as a regular expression.  I know next to nothing about them. 
TextMate proceeded to give me the spinning beach ball for about five
minutes.  My system became unresponsive.  TextMate eventually bombed. 
I opened TextMate again and repeated the search.  Same results. 
Should there be error checking on the regular expression before it is
executed to prevent things like this?

Bryce


From brycethornton at gmail.com  Tue Feb  8 21:56:38 2005
From: brycethornton at gmail.com (Bryce Thornton)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:56:38 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Re: "Find in Project..." problem with special characters &
	regular expressions
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

The first problem seems to work better after restarting the
application.  $ROOT_DIR was found in every spot it should have been. 
Does TextMate periodically index the project and then search that
index?  That would explain why only a few files were found before the
restart.  If so, how often does the index get refreshed?


On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:38:27 -0500, Bryce Thornton
 wrote:
> The "Find in Project..." feature has been acting oddly when searching
> for strings with "special" characters in them.  I have the "Regular
> Expression" box unchecked and the "Ignore Case" box checked.
> 
> I have a project with ~100 files in it.  About 75 of those contain the
> variable $ROOT_DIR.  When I do a "Find in Project..." and search for
> $ROOT_DIR I get three results back.  I really can't figure out what is
> special about the three that are returned.  Is the "$" causing a
> problem?  I would think that if you are not using regular expressions
> that all special characters would be automatically escaped.
> 
> That's my first problem.  Here's the second:
> 
> I then tried "*\$ROOT_DIR*" with the regular expression box checked
> just to see what would happen.  I realize that this doesn't make much
> sense as a regular expression.  I know next to nothing about them.
> TextMate proceeded to give me the spinning beach ball for about five
> minutes.  My system became unresponsive.  TextMate eventually bombed.
> I opened TextMate again and repeated the search.  Same results.
> Should there be error checking on the regular expression before it is
> executed to prevent things like this?
> 
> Bryce
>


From factoryjoe at factorycity.net  Tue Feb  8 23:56:29 2005
From: factoryjoe at factorycity.net (Chris Messina)
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 15:56:29 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] New Icon
In-Reply-To: <739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com>		<6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net>	<477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com>	<1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org>	<477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com>	
	<739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
Message-ID: <420951AD.6030504@factorycity.net>

Has anyone seen Barthelme Design's improvements?


Post: http://www.bartelme.at/journal_detail.asp?detail=211
Download: http://www.bartelme.at/showroom_detail.asp?detail=43

Chris
-- 

Do the evolution. Get Firefox! 


Quote of the moment: /"Simplicity is in taking the elegant path. It is 
also a conscious choice-- to achieve simplicity one must eschew 
complexity. Simple things must be simple."/ -- author unknown

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From jpinnix at pixelgrazer.com  Wed Feb  9 00:04:14 2005
From: jpinnix at pixelgrazer.com (jeremy*pinnix)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:04:14 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] New Icon
In-Reply-To: <420951AD.6030504@factorycity.net>
References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com>		<6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net>	<477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com>	<1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org>	<477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com>	
	<739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
	<420951AD.6030504@factorycity.net>
Message-ID: <10786fff782e1c904dd7d5f98f16a6bc@pixelgrazer.com>

Those look just great!

I hope that Barthelme and Allan can work out something so we can have  
these by default :-)

On Feb 8, 2005, at 5:56 PM, Chris Messina wrote:

>  Has anyone seen Barthelme Design's improvements?
>
> 
>  Post: http://www.bartelme.at/journal_detail.asp?detail=211
>  Download: http://www.bartelme.at/showroom_detail.asp?detail=43
>
>  Chris
>
> --  
>
>
> Do the evolution. 
>
> Quote of the moment: "Simplicity is in taking the elegant path. It is  
> also a conscious choice? to achieve simplicity one must eschew  
> complexity. Simple things must be simple." -- author unknown
> ___________________________________ 
> ___________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
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From fredb7 at starflam.com  Wed Feb  9 03:02:27 2005
From: fredb7 at starflam.com (Fred B.)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 04:02:27 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Atomic save and Fugu
Message-ID: 

Just so you know:

Today I noticed TM didn't send the file back to Fugu anymore on save.
(It can be weird when you think you saved files when, in fact,  you  
didn't!)

After reinstalling TM, rebooting, repairing permission, etc., I  
remembered I had enabled "atomic save" earlier.
This was the problem, everything back to normal when it's unchecked.

I don't know if the problem is in Fugu or TM.
Shouldn't TM falls back to normal writes?

Anyway, here is a log entry in case it helps:

-------------
2005-02-09 03:51:15.255 TextMate[555] initWithOptions: {
     auxiliaryFileInfo = {
         customPath = "sftp://fatal at 10.0.0.115/temp/test.txt";
         fsref = 		<6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net>	<477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com>	<1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org>	<477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com>	
	<739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
	<420951AD.6030504@factorycity.net>
Message-ID: 

Chris Messina wrote:

> Has anyone seen Barthelme Design's improvements?

That is hands-down the best icon I've seen yet for TM.  The project and
document icons are also very nice.  I highly recommend this set as the
default set for TM.

Chris



From BrunosJunk at Bronosky.com  Wed Feb  9 05:14:53 2005
From: BrunosJunk at Bronosky.com (Bruno Bronosky)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 00:14:53 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Why is text dragging not possible?
Message-ID: 

That is a basic Apple concept, like cmd+left/right to go to the 
beginning/end of a line.  Try dragging an active selection in Mail.app, 
if you hold opt while dragging it copies instead of moves.

My brain can't let go of the instinct to drag text.  Is there a way to 
make it work?

Thank you,

--==<< R i c h a r d B r o n o s k y >>==--

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From pmccann at maths.adelaide.edu.au  Wed Feb  9 05:24:16 2005
From: pmccann at maths.adelaide.edu.au (Paul McCann)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 15:54:16 +1030
Subject: [TxMt] Why is text dragging not possible?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20050209052415.GA13996@maths.adelaide.edu.au>

Hi Bruno,
        you wrote...

> My brain can't let go of the instinct to drag text.  Is there a way to 
> make it work?

It *does* work, but you have to ensure that the cursor is an arrow
before initiating the drag. That is, select the text, hold the mouse
down while pointing at it and then "add a tiny pause". Then drag. 
Seems to be a Cocoa-ism! Adding the option key does the usual thing.

Cheers,
Paul


From pmccann at maths.adelaide.edu.au  Wed Feb  9 05:26:38 2005
From: pmccann at maths.adelaide.edu.au (Paul McCann)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 15:56:38 +1030
Subject: [TxMt] Inserting a File Path
Message-ID: <20050209052638.GB13996@maths.adelaide.edu.au>

Greetings all (from a relatively new BBEdit->TextMate convert)

Is there an easy way to insert a file/directory path into a TextMate window?
I can do it using the slightly ugly applescript hack below, "Insert Finder
Selection", but it'd be nice to drag-then-hit-command-while-dragging or some
such.

Just for fun I've included a couple of Perl commands for reading in a file
"Perl Infile" (it's up to you what you do with it!) and for writing to a
file "Perl Outfile". They try to be a little bit helpful: if you've selected
text in TextMate the commands assume it's a filename and wrap around it,
otherwise CocoaDialog is pulled up and you must select a file. in "Outfile"
you can also select a directory: in this case it prompts for a filename to
write to. See Eric's earlier post about CocoaDialog (http://cocoadialog.sourceforge.net/)

You will need to change the $CD variable used in these scripts if you choose
to install it somewhere other than /Applications .

Regards,
Paul

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Insert Finder Selection:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Save: Nothing
Command:
osascript< ) {

}
HERE
'

Input: None
Output: Replace selected text
Key Equivalent: command-option-ctrl I
------------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Perl Outfile
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Save: nothing
Command:
perl -e '
my $CD="/Applications/CocoaDialog.app/Contents/MacOS/CocoaDialog";
my $TMD=$ENV{'TM_DIRECTORY'};
chomp(my $rv=`$CD fileselect --text "Select a file" --no-newline --select-directories --with-directory "$TMD"`);
if (-d $rv){ # dir selected: need to append name
  my $out=`$CD standard-inputbox --text "$TMD" --informative-text  "Enter the name of the file" --no-cancel`;
  my ($name)=($out=~m/.*\n(.*)/m);
  $rv.="/$name";
}

chomp(my $file = $rv);
exit unless $file; # user cancelled
print <\$outfile"  or  die "Outfile: \$outfile\\n\$!";
select OUT;     # print to OUT filehandle by default

HERE
'             

Input: None
Output: Replace selected text
Key Equivalent: command-option-ctrl O
------------------------------------------------------------------------



From BrunosJunk at Bronosky.com  Wed Feb  9 05:27:44 2005
From: BrunosJunk at Bronosky.com (Bruno Bronosky)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 00:27:44 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Re: New Icon
In-Reply-To: 
References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com>		<6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net>	<477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com>	<1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org>	<477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com>	
	<739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
	<420951AD.6030504@factorycity.net> 
Message-ID: 

Yea, I agree.  It's a beauty.

Thank you,

--==<< R i c h a r d B r o n o s k y >>==--


On Feb 8, 2005, at 11:12 PM, Chris Ruzin wrote:

> Chris Messina wrote:
>
>> Has anyone seen Barthelme Design's improvements?
>
> That is hands-down the best icon I've seen yet for TM.  The project and
> document icons are also very nice.  I highly recommend this set as the
> default set for TM.
>
> Chris
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>
>
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From deadmail at bronosky.com  Wed Feb  9 05:37:28 2005
From: deadmail at bronosky.com (Bruno)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 00:37:28 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Why is text dragging not possible?
In-Reply-To: <20050209052415.GA13996@maths.adelaide.edu.au>
References: 
	<20050209052415.GA13996@maths.adelaide.edu.au>
Message-ID: <80761c44f7ed9714574f29f52d97250b@bronosky.com>

Hey, you're right.  I'm just such an efficient programmer, that I never 
go slow enough to notice that.

Oops, I feel like an ID-ten-T.

Thank you,

--==<< R i c h a r d B r o n o s k y >>==--


On Feb 9, 2005, at 12:24 AM, Paul McCann wrote:

> Hi Bruno,
>         you wrote...
>
>> My brain can't let go of the instinct to drag text.  Is there a way to
>> make it work?
>
> It *does* work, but you have to ensure that the cursor is an arrow
> before initiating the drag. That is, select the text, hold the mouse
> down while pointing at it and then "add a tiny pause". Then drag.
> Seems to be a Cocoa-ism! Adding the option key does the usual thing.
>
> Cheers,
> Paul
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>
>
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From BrunosJunk at Bronosky.com  Wed Feb  9 05:41:05 2005
From: BrunosJunk at Bronosky.com (Bruno Bronosky)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 00:41:05 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] TextMate friendly FTP clients
In-Reply-To: <50ad85b291c09f743899336ab72bd88c@bravo5.org>
References: <3d85c7d0c6990dd44444f7a40cad1e6f@Bronosky.com>
	<50ad85b291c09f743899336ab72bd88c@bravo5.org>
Message-ID: 

I really like Cyberduck.  I just wish I could make it quack or 
something when an upload completes.  It loved that about Fetch.  It 
alerts you that it is ready for you to refresh your browser.

Thank you,

--==<< R i c h a r d B r o n o s k y >>==--


On Feb 8, 2005, at 6:04 AM, Brian Lalor wrote:

> On Feb 7, 2005, at 6:09 PM, Bruno Bronosky wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for something to replace Transmit, since TextMate won't 
>> work as one of it's external editors.  I need an ftp client that will 
>> upload when TextMate Saves.
>
> I'll echo Eric's recommendation.  Cyberduck does all this for free. :-)
>
> -- 
>     __   ____
>    / /  / __/ Brian Lalor
>   / _ \/__ \  blalor at bravo5.org
>  /_.__/____/  http://bravo5.org/
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>
>
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From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Wed Feb  9 06:49:00 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 22:49:00 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] TextMate friendly FTP clients
In-Reply-To: 
References: <3d85c7d0c6990dd44444f7a40cad1e6f@Bronosky.com>
	<50ad85b291c09f743899336ab72bd88c@bravo5.org>
	
Message-ID: 

At 12:41 AM -0500 2/9/05, Bruno Bronosky wrote:
>I really like Cyberduck.  I just wish I could make it quack or 
>something when an upload completes.  It loved that about Fetch.  It 
>alerts you that it is ready for you to refresh your browser.

Cyberduck works with Growl  which will pop up 
notifications for each upload, download and server connection.

Actually, I find it annoying, but not enough to make me disable 
Growl. It sounds perfect for your use.

- Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Wed Feb  9 06:48:48 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 22:48:48 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] subversion bundle
Message-ID: 

The bundle is just gorgeous, especially for things like "svn blame". 
It really shows the potential of the HTML output.

However.

svn is extremely slow on my computer (and perhaps on yours). Is there 
any way to either (1) put up a status bar (cocoadialog will do it) 
and/or (2) make the thing run in the background or otherwise not 
block TM from running?

I'm thinking (2) is impossible unless Allan reworks how commands are called.
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From t.lucas at toolmantim.com  Wed Feb  9 07:55:22 2005
From: t.lucas at toolmantim.com (Tim Lucas)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 18:55:22 +1100
Subject: [TxMt] TextMate friendly FTP clients
In-Reply-To: 
References: <3d85c7d0c6990dd44444f7a40cad1e6f@Bronosky.com>
	<50ad85b291c09f743899336ab72bd88c@bravo5.org>
	
Message-ID: <9aa177ee632164ecad6900dad2189de9@toolmantim.com>

On 09/02/2005, at 4:41 PM, Bruno Bronosky wrote:
> I really like Cyberduck.  I just wish I could make it quack or 
> something when an upload completes.  It loved that about Fetch.  It 
> alerts you that it is ready for you to refresh your browser.

Cyberduck supports Growl for upload notification.

- tim



From t.lucas at toolmantim.com  Wed Feb  9 07:56:34 2005
From: t.lucas at toolmantim.com (Tim Lucas)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 18:56:34 +1100
Subject: [TxMt] subversion bundle
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <111d85fb048016c8ca28d4b33191320f@toolmantim.com>

On 09/02/2005, at 5:48 PM, Eric Hsu wrote:
> svn is extremely slow on my computer (and perhaps on yours). Is there 
> any way to either (1) put up a status bar (cocoadialog will do it) 
> and/or (2) make the thing run in the background or otherwise not block 
> TM from running?
>
> I'm thinking (2) is impossible unless Allan reworks how commands are 
> called.

Alan has mentioned that this will most probably be addressed in a 
future version.

- tim



From roberto+textmate at keltia.freenix.fr  Wed Feb  9 11:27:17 2005
From: roberto+textmate at keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 12:27:17 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] TextMate friendly FTP clients --NB Fugu
In-Reply-To: 
References: <3d85c7d0c6990dd44444f7a40cad1e6f@Bronosky.com>
	<50ad85b291c09f743899336ab72bd88c@bravo5.org>
	<701a0a879c496ae1ff4a31bbb75b418f@archivistes.com>
	
Message-ID: <20050209112717.GA96205@tara.freenix.org>

According to Eric Hsu:
> I used to think the 'Edit in TM' option of an FTP client was pretty 
> useless, but I've been using it a lot more than I would have thought.

Speaking of which, when I use pom-J to edit the remote file, when I close
the TM window, file doesn't get uploaded :(  Is there anything I should do?

Using Fugu 1.1.
-- 
Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto at keltia.freenix.fr
Darwin snuadh.freenix.org Kernel Version 7.7.0: Sun Nov  7 16:06:51 PST 2004


From roberto+textmate at keltia.freenix.fr  Wed Feb  9 11:29:44 2005
From: roberto+textmate at keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 12:29:44 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Atomic save and Fugu
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20050209112944.GB96205@tara.freenix.org>

According to Fred B.:
> After reinstalling TM, rebooting, repairing permission, etc., I  
> remembered I had enabled "atomic save" earlier.
> This was the problem, everything back to normal when it's unchecked.

I guess that answers my question about Fugu :(
-- 
Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto at keltia.freenix.fr
Darwin snuadh.freenix.org Kernel Version 7.7.0: Sun Nov  7 16:06:51 PST 2004


From textmate-2004 at ryandesign.com  Wed Feb  9 12:15:39 2005
From: textmate-2004 at ryandesign.com (Ryan Schmidt)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 13:15:39 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Why is text dragging not possible?
In-Reply-To: <20050209052415.GA13996@maths.adelaide.edu.au>
References: 
	<20050209052415.GA13996@maths.adelaide.edu.au>
Message-ID: <75efc9f42b2222fe34f76ea2dbb4d01d@ryandesign.com>

On 09.02.2005, at 06:24, Paul McCann wrote:

>> My brain can't let go of the instinct to drag text.  Is there a way to
>> make it work?
>
> It *does* work, but you have to ensure that the cursor is an arrow
> before initiating the drag. That is, select the text, hold the mouse
> down while pointing at it and then "add a tiny pause". Then drag.
> Seems to be a Cocoa-ism! Adding the option key does the usual thing.


Paul,

I love you. I have been having a very strained relationship with 
Mail.app ever since we met four years ago because I could not move or 
copy text by dragging. We know we need each other, but this problem has 
been a source of much pain. Thanks to you, I think Mail and I will 
finally be able to patch things up.



From dev at yummysoftware.com  Wed Feb  9 13:13:04 2005
From: dev at yummysoftware.com (Developer Relations)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 13:13:04 GMT
Subject: [TxMt] TextMate friendly FTP clients
Message-ID: <200502091313.j19DD4d12027@squirtle.joshuainternet.net>

Hi all,

I couldn't help but chime in here.

As noted, Yummy FTP supports remote editing via SFTP and FTP, and supports TextMate 
directly using the ODB editor suite. It will also make a transfer completion sound of your 
choice.

Yummy FTP also allows additional editors to be defined other than the standard TexMate/
BBEdit/etc. Additional editors can be selected by using the Edit With option, so this might be 
what you're looking for in order to edit with jEdit, for example.

We've also recently implemented the ability to specify remote editors per file name extension, 
but that is only in the beta we're working on right now. This will allow you to just double-
click a file and edit it with the remote editor you have previously chosen.

Of course, Yummy FTP isn't free but $25 isn't too painful :-)

Sorry for the advertisement. I hope the information is helpful.

Best regards,
Jason

Jason Downing 
---------------------------------- 
Yummy Software 

Software so good you could eat it. Yum! 
www.yummysoftware.com 
---------------------------------- 


From pna at biomedinfolab.com  Wed Feb  9 14:42:24 2005
From: pna at biomedinfolab.com (Paul Nordstrom August)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 15:42:24 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Fugu and 'Edit in TM'
In-Reply-To: <20050209112717.GA96205@tara.freenix.org>
References: <3d85c7d0c6990dd44444f7a40cad1e6f@Bronosky.com>
	<50ad85b291c09f743899336ab72bd88c@bravo5.org>
	<701a0a879c496ae1ff4a31bbb75b418f@archivistes.com>
	
	<20050209112717.GA96205@tara.freenix.org>
Message-ID: <270622d41958c2ce1095151ebafdb966@biomedinfolab.com>

hi guys
a) I had the penultimate ("broken") .4 beta and was going crazy w/o the 
working Edit in TM!
b) Robert, did you get the patched .4? W/o it it behaves as you 
describe. See the TM wiki
hastily paul

On 9 Feb 2005, at 12:27, Ollivier Robert wrote:

> According to Eric Hsu:
>> I used to think the 'Edit in TM' option of an FTP client was pretty
>> useless, but I've been using it a lot more than I would have thought.
>
> Speaking of which, when I use pom-J to edit the remote file, when I 
> close
> the TM window, file doesn't get uploaded :(  Is there anything I 
> should do?
>
> Using Fugu 1.1.



From mats at imediatec.co.uk  Wed Feb  9 15:20:03 2005
From: mats at imediatec.co.uk (Mats Persson)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 15:20:03 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Re: New Icon
In-Reply-To: 
References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com>		<6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net>	<477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com>	<1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org>	<477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com>	
	<739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
	<420951AD.6030504@factorycity.net> 
Message-ID: <1fdd079ca492a461c899bb1376ed9126@imediatec.co.uk>


On 9 Feb 2005, at 04:12, Chris Ruzin wrote:
> Has anyone seen Barthelme Design's improvements?

Yes, and the icon(s) is/are really good & classy.  I was a great fan of 
Torsten's icon, but this icon just looks so great in my dock.

Any chance of making the document icons work as well ??

Kind regards,

Mats

----
"TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
- www.macromates.com -



From mats at imediatec.co.uk  Wed Feb  9 15:24:26 2005
From: mats at imediatec.co.uk (Mats Persson)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 15:24:26 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Text->Shift Left/Right Question  (problem??)
Message-ID: 


Working with PHP code I prefer to have my comments prefixed by # (hash) 
rather than // (double-slash).
However, when using Text->Shift Left/Right these comments are not moved 
together with the other text.

Anyone have an idea of how I can make that work ?? Is it something only 
for Allan, or just syntax file issue ??


Kind regards,

Mats

----
"TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
- www.macromates.com -



From jeroen at je-ju.net  Wed Feb  9 18:49:52 2005
From: jeroen at je-ju.net (Jeroen van der Ham)
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 19:49:52 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Bundle Documentation
Message-ID: <420A5B50.4000506@je-ju.net>

Hi,

During the last couple of weeks I have not been able to comepletely 
follow all the stuff going on in this mailinglist. I completely missed 
the introduction of the "view as HTML" feature. I noticed a couple of 
references to it and have seen that some people use it now in their bundles.

However, when I wanted to get into it, I found that bundles are not 
really documented. Could people perhaps put some documentation on the 
wiki about their bundles?
But an even better way would be to have some help/description feature for 
bundles within TM...Allan, what's your take on that?

Jeroen.
-- 
                "We apologize for the inconvenience"
             (See "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy")


From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Wed Feb  9 18:57:58 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 10:57:58 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Bundle Documentation
In-Reply-To: <420A5B50.4000506@je-ju.net>
References: <420A5B50.4000506@je-ju.net>
Message-ID: 

At 7:49 PM +0100 2/9/05, Jeroen van der Ham wrote:
>However, when I wanted to get into it, I found that bundles are not 
>really documented. Could people perhaps put some documentation on 
>the wiki about their bundles?

What is this "documentation" you speak of?

:)

Anyway, it might be beyond us to all document the bundles, as some of 
us are spare-time-hackers. But the new features are definitely 
getting ahead of us. I don't get drag commands or, really, the full 
power of snippets. But maybe there is some distributed way we can 
each highlight one neat trick from our bundles, and together we could 
cover most of the neat new features...

- Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From allan at macromates.com  Wed Feb  9 19:19:04 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 20:19:04 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] "Find in Project..." problem with special characters &
	regular expressions
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

On Feb 8, 2005, at 22:38, Bryce Thornton wrote:

> I have a project with ~100 files in it.  About 75 of those contain the
> variable $ROOT_DIR.  When I do a "Find in Project..." and search for
> $ROOT_DIR I get three results back.  I really can't figure out what is
> special about the three that are returned.  Is the "$" causing a
> problem?

I don't have any idea to what have gone wrong here. It could be that 
the files that contain $ROOT_DIR are not considered text files by 
TextMate, and so, the Find in Project skips these!?!

> [...] My system became unresponsive.  TextMate eventually bombed.
> I opened TextMate again and repeated the search.  Same results.
> Should there be error checking on the regular expression before it is
> executed to prevent things like this?

Yes, there should, and it's unfortunate that I haven't gotten around to 
adding this yet, my apologies for the troubles it is causing! :/



From allan at macromates.com  Wed Feb  9 19:20:23 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 20:20:23 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] New Icon
In-Reply-To: <10786fff782e1c904dd7d5f98f16a6bc@pixelgrazer.com>
References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com>		<6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net>	<477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com>	<1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org>	<477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com>	
	<739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
	<420951AD.6030504@factorycity.net>
	<10786fff782e1c904dd7d5f98f16a6bc@pixelgrazer.com>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 9, 2005, at 1:04, jeremy*pinnix wrote:

> Those look just great!
>
> I hope that Barthelme and Allan can work out something so we can have 
> these by default :-)

Yes, they'll be used in beta 5. Though I also got this one from Ethan, 
which I am considering for beta 6 -- let the flames begin! ;)

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From fxn at hashref.com  Wed Feb  9 19:24:32 2005
From: fxn at hashref.com (Xavier Noria)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 20:24:32 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] New Icon
In-Reply-To: 
References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com>		<6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net>	<477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com>	<1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org>	<477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com>	
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On Feb 9, 2005, at 20:20, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> Yes, they'll be used in beta 5. Though I also got this one from Ethan, 
> which I am considering for beta 6 -- let the flames begin! ;)

Heh :-).

I see KDE there, +1 for the current (maybe enhanced) icon.

-- fxn



From allan at macromates.com  Wed Feb  9 19:31:17 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 20:31:17 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Inserting a File Path
In-Reply-To: <20050209052638.GB13996@maths.adelaide.edu.au>
References: <20050209052638.GB13996@maths.adelaide.edu.au>
Message-ID: <1ad65caaf2f09d18b1dc0259bfc969ad@macromates.com>

On Feb 9, 2005, at 6:26, Paul McCann wrote:

> Is there an easy way to insert a file/directory path into a TextMate 
> window?

You could make a drag command that does this. Although this wasn't the 
intent of the system. Basically (to also address Eric's recent letter 
;) ) a drag command is a normal command executed when a file is dropped 
on TextMate (I do consider changing this to just a new activation 
method).

A drag command is chosen based on (current) document extension and file 
extension (of dropped file), so you can't make a catch all, and 
currently the document extension is not exposed in the bundle editor, 
because I want to use the (forthcoming) scope system instead.

You can check qualifiers in the command, these are in the 
TM_MODIFIER_FLAGS variable (and can be any combination of: 
SHIFT|CONTROL|OPTION|COMMAND). But there is no way to pass on handling 
of the drop when the drag command has been chosen.

So basically, you can use this, but you'll lose the default behavior 
for drops, and you'll have to specify all the file types you want to 
handle. There are more details about variables and property list keys 
in the release notes.

Drag commands were introduced to handle the case where binary files 
(like images) where dropped onto documents, and a command could 
generate the proper thing to insert (like an  tag with 
dimensions). In their current iteration I'm not to fond of them, 
because they are sort of limited.

Adding that TextMate just inserts the filename dropped when holding 
down a qualifier sounds like something that I could just do as a 
built-in function.



From allan at macromates.com  Wed Feb  9 19:32:47 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 20:32:47 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Atomic save and Fugu
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

On Feb 9, 2005, at 4:02, Fred B. wrote:

> After reinstalling TM, rebooting, repairing permission, etc., I 
> remembered I had enabled "atomic save" earlier.
> This was the problem, everything back to normal when it's unchecked.
>
> I don't know if the problem is in Fugu or TM.
> Shouldn't TM falls back to normal writes?

TM does fall back to normal writes if it can't do it atomically. But I 
think the problem is that the FSRef is pointing to nil after the atomic 
save, and this is likely TM's fault -- I'll look into it.



From allan at macromates.com  Wed Feb  9 19:35:37 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 20:35:37 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Text->Shift Left/Right Question  (problem??)
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

On Feb 9, 2005, at 16:24, Mats Persson wrote:

> However, when using Text->Shift Left/Right these comments are not 
> moved together with the other text.
>
> Anyone have an idea of how I can make that work ?? Is it something 
> only for Allan, or just syntax file issue ??

I think that's hardcoded ;) I should be able to expose (for editing) 
the regex-patterns I use for shift left/right.



From factoryjoe at factorycity.net  Wed Feb  9 19:35:53 2005
From: factoryjoe at factorycity.net (Chris Messina)
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 11:35:53 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] New Icon
In-Reply-To: <8dff577b72d6170e16b0dd09a2320916@hashref.com>
References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com>		<6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net>	<477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com>	<1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org>	<477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com>		<739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>	<420951AD.6030504@factorycity.net>	<10786fff782e1c904dd7d5f98f16a6bc@pixelgrazer.com>	
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Message-ID: <420A6619.8040502@factorycity.net>

Hm... I like Ethan's, though I strongly dislike the angle of rotation. 
If the shading were more consistent w/ other OSX icons, I might prefer 
it over Wolfgang's. Otherwise, the coloring is pretty good -- is the 
color choice consistent w/ the old analysis of "open" color spectra?

Chris


Xavier Noria wrote:

> On Feb 9, 2005, at 20:20, Allan Odgaard wrote:
>
>> Yes, they'll be used in beta 5. Though I also got this one from 
>> Ethan, which I am considering for beta 6 -- let the flames begin! ;)
>
>
> Heh :-).
>
> I see KDE there, +1 for the current (maybe enhanced) icon.
>
> -- fxn
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate



-- 

Do the evolution. Get Firefox! 


Quote of the moment: /"Simplicity is in taking the elegant path. It is 
also a conscious choice? to achieve simplicity one must eschew 
complexity. Simple things must be simple."/ -- author unknown





From mgee at gwi.net  Wed Feb  9 19:37:05 2005
From: mgee at gwi.net (Michael Gregoire)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 14:37:05 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] New Icon
In-Reply-To: 
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	<739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
	<420951AD.6030504@factorycity.net>
	<10786fff782e1c904dd7d5f98f16a6bc@pixelgrazer.com>
	
Message-ID: 

Ah yeah, the icon creators are stepping their game up. This new one is 
slick and stands out in the dock.



On Feb 9, 2005, at 2:20 PM, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 9, 2005, at 1:04, jeremy*pinnix wrote:
>
>> Those look just great!
>>
>> I hope that Barthelme and Allan can work out something so we can have 
>> these by default :-)
>
> Yes, they'll be used in beta 5. Though I also got this one from Ethan, 
> which I am considering for beta 6 -- let the flames begin! ;)
>
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate



From allan at macromates.com  Wed Feb  9 19:39:56 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 20:39:56 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Bundle Documentation
In-Reply-To: <420A5B50.4000506@je-ju.net>
References: <420A5B50.4000506@je-ju.net>
Message-ID: <4e7d6bf1f399c98c9034f472ae0d85c5@macromates.com>

On Feb 9, 2005, at 19:49, Jeroen van der Ham wrote:

> However, when I wanted to get into it, I found that bundles are not 
> really documented. Could people perhaps put some documentation on the 
> wiki about their bundles?
>
> But an even better way would be to have some help/description feature 
> for bundles within TM...Allan, what's your take on that?

I've been wanting to add the ability to view/edit each bundles README 
in the bundle editor. That probably will help a bit.

Also, I am seriously considering the thing people have requested about 
having bundles as separate downloads. That'd give them a version 
number, release notes etc.



From david.wooten at mac.com  Wed Feb  9 19:50:23 2005
From: david.wooten at mac.com (David Wooten)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 11:50:23 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Bundle Documentation
In-Reply-To: <4e7d6bf1f399c98c9034f472ae0d85c5@macromates.com>
References: <420A5B50.4000506@je-ju.net>
	<4e7d6bf1f399c98c9034f472ae0d85c5@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <6242dc79a5808dde4cec94e3e804dd95@mac.com>


On Feb 9, 2005, at 11:39 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 9, 2005, at 19:49, Jeroen van der Ham wrote:
>
>> However, when I wanted to get into it, I found that bundles are not 
>> really documented. Could people perhaps put some documentation on the 
>> wiki about their bundles?
>>
>> But an even better way would be to have some help/description feature 
>> for bundles within TM...Allan, what's your take on that?
>
> I've been wanting to add the ability to view/edit each bundles README 
> in the bundle editor. That probably will help a bit.
>
> Also, I am seriously considering the thing people have requested about 
> having bundles as separate downloads. That'd give them a version 
> number, release notes etc.

+1 (!). TM could download initially with a smallish set, or have a 
first-time wizard like Quicksilver.



From jeroen at je-ju.net  Wed Feb  9 20:04:36 2005
From: jeroen at je-ju.net (Jeroen van der Ham)
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 21:04:36 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Bundle Documentation
In-Reply-To: <4e7d6bf1f399c98c9034f472ae0d85c5@macromates.com>
References: <420A5B50.4000506@je-ju.net>
	<4e7d6bf1f399c98c9034f472ae0d85c5@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <420A6CD4.6050001@je-ju.net>

On 09-02-2005 20:39, Allan Odgaard wrote:
> I've been wanting to add the ability to view/edit each bundles README in 
> the bundle editor. That probably will help a bit.

That would help a bit, but is too limited to provide documentation for 
all bundles (everyone wants everything quickly, and providing large 
amounts of texts is not helping...)

I'd propose to change the Bundle Editor to a Bundle Browser () where you can browse the contents of 
bundles and not only see it's innards, but also a textfield for 
documentation.

> 
> Also, I am seriously considering the thing people have requested about 
> having bundles as separate downloads. That'd give them a version number, 
> release notes etc.

I think this would play very nicely with the idea of a Bundle Browser...

Jeroen.
-- 
                "We apologize for the inconvenience"
             (See "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy")


From cruzin at gmail.com  Wed Feb  9 20:33:00 2005
From: cruzin at gmail.com (Chris Ruzin)
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:33:00 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Re: New Icon
References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com>		<6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net>	<477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com>	<1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org>	<477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com>	
	<739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
	<420951AD.6030504@factorycity.net>
	<10786fff782e1c904dd7d5f98f16a6bc@pixelgrazer.com>
	
Message-ID: 

Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 9, 2005, at 1:04, jeremy*pinnix wrote:
> 
>> Those look just great!
>>
>> I hope that Barthelme and Allan can work out something so we can have
>> these by default :-)
> 
> Yes, they'll be used in beta 5. Though I also got this one from Ethan,
> which I am considering for beta 6 -- let the flames begin! ;)

I think Wolfgang's icon is much more inline with the OS X icon guidelines. 
Ethan's icon is nice, but not as professional looking as Wolfgang's.  As
Chris Messina said, the angle of the icon doesn't look right.  Make it more
like the guidelines suggest, and it will be a very nice icon.



From justin at blaix.com  Wed Feb  9 20:37:33 2005
From: justin at blaix.com (Justin Blake)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 15:37:33 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] New Icon
In-Reply-To: 
References: <85b2bf50ac46b20ad3af821d6df1f211@macromates.com>		<6B3A4C64-743B-11D9-98E3-000D932B6612@highteq.net>	<477c250f0502010333403acf7d@mail.gmail.com>	<1b18ebba96e2996c787ded90115ce006@cyanite.org>	<477c250f050201043539a6aeac@mail.gmail.com>	
	<739f3ccf71ff2388db1f07ec251b0606@friesendev.ca>
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	<10786fff782e1c904dd7d5f98f16a6bc@pixelgrazer.com>
	
Message-ID: <3f3d4949ba8ea4436d20887a6f467704@blaix.com>

On Feb 9, 2005, at 2:20 PM, Allan Odgaard wrote:
> Yes, they'll be used in beta 5. Though I also got this one from Ethan, 
> which I am considering for beta 6 -- let the flames begin! ;)
> 

I think this new one is the best yet!

- Justin



From nick.hristov at gmail.com  Tue Feb  8 16:28:07 2005
From: nick.hristov at gmail.com (Nick Hristov)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 10:28:07 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Inline PDF
In-Reply-To: <9ba418f5e172877617f436c0a9b63caa@macromates.com>
References: <58b50214050207050778a0315c@mail.gmail.com>
	
	
	<58b5021405020716141f1a3420@mail.gmail.com>
	<9ba418f5e172877617f436c0a9b63caa@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <6A2D7A2F-79EE-11D9-9707-000D93B54EAC@iit.edu>

Or you can just use TextEdit since it can render RTFDs.

Nick

On Feb 7, 2005, at 6:52 PM, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 8, 2005, at 1:14, Rob Walton wrote:
>
>> I would like to be able to preview latex equations as I'm writing.  I
>> really like writing latex, but can't wrap my mind around all the
>> brackets in latex equations.  There is a service called "equation
>> service".  In the text editor, you highlight the text you would like
>> previewed and call the equation service.  It cuts the highlighted text
>> into the clipboard, turns it into a pdf, and then copies this into the
>> clipboard and pastes it into your document [...]
>
> You can't display PDF inline like that, so TextMate won't work with  
> this service. You can however mimic the service from inside TextMate  
> and use the HTML output option to display the equation, if you have  
> the PDF browser plugin installed.
>
> I created a new command (in TextMate) with input set to selection and  
> output to show as HTML and then the actual command(s) like this:
>
> cd ~/Library/Application\ Support/Equation\ Service/Output
> cat >myeqn.tex
> cp ../Templates/pdflatex/basemathmode.tex .
> pdflatex basemathmode.tex
> echo ' content="0;URL=file:///Users/'${USER}'/Library/Application%20Support/ 
> Equation%20Service/Output/basemathmode.pdf">'
>
> It writes the selected text to myeqn.tex (in the output directory for  
> the Equation Service), copies over the basemathmode template, runs  
> pdflatex on this template (which inputs myeqn.tex) and then outputs an  
> HTML header that makes the HTML output window 'redirect' to the PDF  
> file, which triggers the PDF browser plugin.
>
> That said, when I tested this, I got black rectangles instead of  
> digits in the output (but the symbols were okay). Though I also get  
> that when I use the service directly (i.e. outside TextMate), and  
> pdflatex does give a 'this is obsolete'-warning, so I think the  
> templates from ES just needs to be updated to the latest pdflatex  
> (distribution).
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>



From mats at imediatec.co.uk  Wed Feb  9 21:12:48 2005
From: mats at imediatec.co.uk (Mats Persson)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 21:12:48 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] TM Icon Poll [Bartelme vs Ethan v3]
Message-ID: 


Wow, this icon quest is getting really exciting, but ever more 
confusing, so I thought a simple poll between the two (???) top 
contenders could be of general interest, and a lot less confusing as to 
which one anyone is commenting on.
Yeah, I know I'm being a bit of an anorak, but can't help it, and I am 
taking my medication daily ;-)

To register your vote, please do a reply with the name of your 
preferred icon selected, and if you so wish add your reasons to why you 
like it below the quoted text.

Any other comment belongs in a completely new thread. Please try to 
keep it on point here. Thank you! ;-)


Icon A by Bartelme.
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My vote:
Icon A by Bartelme

Reason: I'm not entirely sure why, but I'm guessing it's something to 
do with Bartelme's icon following the general "text editor" icon look, 
and it is more in line with the 3D feel of the other Apple app icons in 
the dock which I think is more appropriate and professional.


Kind regards,

Mats

----
"TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
- www.macromates.com -

From allan at macromates.com  Wed Feb  9 21:23:21 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:23:21 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] TM Icon Poll [Bartelme vs Ethan v3]
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

On Feb 9, 2005, at 22:12, Mats Persson wrote:

> To register your vote, please do a reply with the name of your 
> preferred icon selected

I'd strongly suggest using the wiki [1] for this.

Also, just for the records, I'm a technocrat and not easily swayed by 
popular opinion ;) But of course I'm always interested in knowing what 
the ?audience? thinks.

[1] http://macromates.com/wiki/pmwiki


From mats at imediatec.co.uk  Wed Feb  9 21:28:29 2005
From: mats at imediatec.co.uk (Mats Persson)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 21:28:29 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Bundle Documentation
In-Reply-To: <4e7d6bf1f399c98c9034f472ae0d85c5@macromates.com>
References: <420A5B50.4000506@je-ju.net>
	<4e7d6bf1f399c98c9034f472ae0d85c5@macromates.com>
Message-ID: 


On 9 Feb 2005, at 19:39, Allan Odgaard wrote:
> I've been wanting to add the ability to view/edit each bundles README 
> in the bundle editor. That probably will help a bit.

Allan, just a few thoughts on this.
IF this ReadMe file could be viewed in different formats depending on 
the file name extension. Eg. ReadMe.txt it's treated as plain text, but 
ReadMe.html is treated as HTML. Perhaps it would just be easier to 
treat it as HTML all the time. I'm not sure which is easier for 
you/everyone ?

Why?  Well, if it's HTML then we could have internal links to read more 
Snippets, Commands, Templates, etc. files or even to a website URL that 
could have more detailed descriptions of what's in the various bundles, 
rather than - perhaps - one single long ReadMe document that contains 
it all. This might not be absolutely crucial in every case, but it 
might just give greater flexibility to everyone for the future. Who 
knows what type of great bundles that will arrive up ahead ?


> Also, I am seriously considering the thing people have requested about 
> having bundles as separate downloads. That'd give them a version 
> number, release notes etc.

Yes, I think that could be an improvement as well, especially for 
shared bundles that might be worked in the community. Perhaps something 
along the lines of Firefox's Extensions system type functionality thing 
??

Kind regards,

Mats

----
"TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
- www.macromates.com -



From paul at archivistes.com  Wed Feb  9 21:29:52 2005
From: paul at archivistes.com (Paul Nordstrom August)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:29:52 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] TM Icon Poll [Bartelme vs Ethan v3]
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <98336df072f4aab776aae152f34b317b@archivistes.com>

My Vote and Comment
Vote: I like them both but Icon B will stand out more in my PowerBook 
(i.e. small) dock.
I'm wary of highly-detailed icon attributes like the pen.

Comment: "a bit of an anorak" -- Mats you've lived in the UK too long!
cheers Paul

On 9 Feb 2005, at 22:12, Mats Persson wrote:

> Wow, this icon quest is getting really exciting, but ever more 
> confusing, so I thought a simple poll between the two (???) top 
> contenders could be of general interest, and a lot less confusing as 
> to which one anyone is commenting on.
> Yeah, I know I'm being a bit of an anorak, but can't help it, and I am 
> taking my medication daily ;-)
>
> To register your vote, please do a reply with the name of your 
> preferred icon selected, and if you so wish add your reasons to why 
> you like it below the quoted text.
>
> Any other comment belongs in a completely new thread. Please try to 
> keep it on point here. Thank you! ;-)
>
>
> Icon A by Bartelme.
> 
>
> Icon B by Ethan.
> 
>
>
> My vote:
> Icon A by Bartelme
>
> Reason: I'm not entirely sure why, but I'm guessing it's something to 
> do with Bartelme's icon following the general "text editor" icon look, 
> and it is more in line with the 3D feel of the other Apple app icons 
> in the dock which I think is more appropriate and professional.



From jonraphaelson at gmail.com  Wed Feb  9 22:12:27 2005
From: jonraphaelson at gmail.com (Jon Raphaelson)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 15:12:27 -0700
Subject: [TxMt] TM Icon Poll [Bartelme vs Ethan v3]
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

Ok, I'm sorry I don't want to have people think I'm bitter or anything, 
but I would like to remind people that Bartelme's icon is derivative 
work. It says so on his website, and the original is what comes with 
1.1b4.

> it's something to do with Bartelme's icon following the general "text 
> editor" icon look,

I know this is nit-picky, but the look, the layout, the icon with 
everything but the pen, new shadow and an up in saturation were mine 
long before Bartelme. I'm not trying to downplay Bartleme's talent 
(just look at his website to know how good he is as a designer) but I 
did a lot of work on this as well.

Thanks - just needed to get that out there. Sorry if it sounds 
vindictive or angry, it's really not.

Jon -

Jonathan Raphaelson				
University of Colorado at Boulder			
--

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Cell: 720-937-4372

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From factoryjoe at factorycity.net  Wed Feb  9 22:22:44 2005
From: factoryjoe at factorycity.net (Chris Messina)
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:22:44 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] TM Icon Poll [Bartelme vs Ethan v3]
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
Message-ID: <420A8D34.3000102@factorycity.net>

Hi Jon,

I think I can speak for a large portion of us (if not all) when I say 
that we all greatly appreciate your work on the TM icon. Bartelme has 
done other kinds of derivative work and I think that it's more like a 
nod to the original author than any kind of usurping of the spotlight.

Indeed, what I think we're all looking for is a nice icon for TM. We've 
gone through a number of icons so far -- with wide changes between each 
revision. That Bartelme took the latest released icon and improved upon 
it seems to me that we're finally coming to a consensus!!

I would suggest that the icon developers put their heads together and 
figure out the best possible combination of the latest submissions. I 
think that what we need is a big gear icon with more saturation (like 
Jon's + Bartelme's combined, but looking more like the KDEsque gear), 
but designed in accordance with the Apple guidelines (angle, lighting, 
etc).

Bartelme's work should push the icon's design forward -- and I think 
it's sparked another round of creativity that will hopefully drive us 
towards the final look... based on your contribution!

Chris


Jon Raphaelson wrote:

> Ok, I'm sorry I don't want to have people think I'm bitter or 
> anything, but I would like to remind people that Bartelme's icon is 
> derivative work. It says so on his website, and the original is what 
> comes with 1.1b4.
>
>> it's something to do with Bartelme's icon following the general "text 
>> editor" icon look,
>
>
> I know this is nit-picky, but the look, the layout, the icon with 
> everything but the pen, new shadow and an up in saturation were mine 
> long before Bartelme. I'm not trying to downplay Bartleme's talent 
> (just look at his website to know how good he is as a designer) but I 
> did a lot of work on this as well.
>
> Thanks - just needed to get that out there. Sorry if it sounds 
> vindictive or angry, it's really not.
>
> Jon -
>
> Jonathan Raphaelson
> University of Colorado at Boulder
> -- 
>
> Home: 303-469-3442
> Cell: 720-937-4372
>
> jonathan.raphaelson at colorado.edu
> jonraphaelson at gmail.com
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate



-- 

Do the evolution. Get Firefox! 


Quote of the moment: /"Simplicity is in taking the elegant path. It is 
also a conscious choice? to achieve simplicity one must eschew 
complexity. Simple things must be simple."/ -- author unknown





From cruzin at gmail.com  Wed Feb  9 22:39:32 2005
From: cruzin at gmail.com (Chris Ruzin)
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 16:39:32 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Re: TM Icon Poll [Bartelme vs Ethan v3]
References: 
	
	<420A8D34.3000102@factorycity.net>
Message-ID: 

Chris Messina wrote:

> I think that what we need is a big gear icon with more saturation (like
> Jon's + Bartelme's combined, but looking more like the KDEsque gear),
> but designed in accordance with the Apple guidelines (angle, lighting,
> etc).

Absolutely agree with this wholeheartedly.  Ethan's latest icon (large gear)
definitely stands out more in the dock, but the angle, lighting and other
aspects of it are not OSXish.  Fix those things, and I think we would have
a definite winner.

-Chris



From mgee at gwi.net  Wed Feb  9 22:50:41 2005
From: mgee at gwi.net (Michael Gregoire)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:50:41 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Re: TM Icon Poll [Bartelme vs Ethan v3]
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
	<420A8D34.3000102@factorycity.net> 
Message-ID: <0666D6FE-7AED-11D9-9D5B-000A95BD7B90@gwi.net>

Just to state the obvious. "Apple Guidelines" are just that, guidlines. 
Not rules.
Remember that an icon is an ICON. It needs to be iconic. That's why the 
most recent icon works the best IMO.

Although the pen details in the current TextMate beta are well done, 
the icon still lacks personality. Just right now I have 4 other icons 
in my dock that contains some sort of pad and pen, whereas the lone 
gear of the most recently submitted icon allows it standout and be 
retained in memory much more quickly. The saturation and strong 
contrast are also helpful in this.

Though another thing to think about, when I think about textmate, I 
don't necessarily think of it in abbreviated form as merely a T, I 
would think of it more as TM.





On Feb 9, 2005, at 5:39 PM, Chris Ruzin wrote:

> Chris Messina wrote:
>
>> I think that what we need is a big gear icon with more saturation 
>> (like
>> Jon's + Bartelme's combined, but looking more like the KDEsque gear),
>> but designed in accordance with the Apple guidelines (angle, lighting,
>> etc).
>
> Absolutely agree with this wholeheartedly.  Ethan's latest icon (large 
> gear)
> definitely stands out more in the dock, but the angle, lighting and 
> other
> aspects of it are not OSXish.  Fix those things, and I think we would 
> have
> a definite winner.
>
> -Chris
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>



From cruzin at gmail.com  Wed Feb  9 23:19:43 2005
From: cruzin at gmail.com (Chris Ruzin)
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:19:43 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Re: Re: TM Icon Poll [Bartelme vs Ethan v3]
References: 
	
	<420A8D34.3000102@factorycity.net> 
	<0666D6FE-7AED-11D9-9D5B-000A95BD7B90@gwi.net>
Message-ID: 

Michael Gregoire wrote:

> Just to state the obvious. "Apple Guidelines" are just that, guidlines.
> Not rules.
> Remember that an icon is an ICON. It needs to be iconic. That's why the
> most recent icon works the best IMO.

IMO, the latest gear icon from Ethan isn't as professional looking as his
previous incarnation of the gear. The drop shadow is cropped.  The edge of
the gear is all black, instead of shaded purple, which gives it a cheaper,
more cartoony look.  Perhaps Ethan just submitted an early vision of what
the icon will look like?

For instance, the way the gear looks in Wolfgang's version is much more
professional looking, IMO.  Work with that style of gear, but make it more
purple, like Ethan's.

> Although the pen details in the current TextMate beta are well done,
> the icon still lacks personality. Just right now I have 4 other icons
> in my dock that contains some sort of pad and pen, whereas the lone
> gear of the most recently submitted icon allows it standout and be
> retained in memory much more quickly. The saturation and strong
> contrast are also helpful in this.

I agree.  The lone, purple gear with TM somewhere on it would be the way to
go, but the latest gear from Ethan isn't there yet.  Getting closer, but
not there yet.  Combine the professional, polished aspects of Wolfgang's
icon with Ethan's gear and you'll have a very nice TM icon.

> Though another thing to think about, when I think about textmate, I
> don't necessarily think of it in abbreviated form as merely a T, I
> would think of it more as TM.

Agreed.



From ed at westernfreight.com  Wed Feb  9 23:31:18 2005
From: ed at westernfreight.com (Edmundo Ortega)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 15:31:18 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Command-Spacebar idea
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
	<420A8D34.3000102@factorycity.net> 
	<0666D6FE-7AED-11D9-9D5B-000A95BD7B90@gwi.net>
	
Message-ID: <629201c9fda15c4f86979ef3cf54f6c4@westernfreight.com>

Using the automatically completing {} () and "" means that after I type 
the interior part, I have to then hit the right arrow key to leave the 
braces/parentheses/quotes. Seems like it would be nice to hit 
command-spacebar to move the cursor one space forward like a hitting 
the right arrow key. What's the difference? I think it would be a much 
easier and faster keystroke than moving my pinkie all the way over to 
the arrow keys. This situation happens hundreds of times a day at 
least.

Just a thought. I'm sure there are some reasons why it's a terrible 
idea.

Ed



From allan at macromates.com  Wed Feb  9 23:42:08 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:42:08 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Command-Spacebar idea
In-Reply-To: <629201c9fda15c4f86979ef3cf54f6c4@westernfreight.com>
References: 
	
	<420A8D34.3000102@factorycity.net> 
	<0666D6FE-7AED-11D9-9D5B-000A95BD7B90@gwi.net>
	
	<629201c9fda15c4f86979ef3cf54f6c4@westernfreight.com>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 10, 2005, at 0:31, Edmundo Ortega wrote:

Dam... I thought we had everybody trained to not reply to existing 
letters when writing new ones -- it ruins mail threading!

> Seems like it would be nice to hit command-spacebar to move the cursor 
> one space forward like a hitting the right arrow key.

You could use Automation / Start Macro Recording, move right, Stop 
Macro Recording and then save this macro with the cmd-space key 
equivalent.

> Just a thought. I'm sure there are some reasons why it's a terrible 
> idea.

Well, cmd-space activates Quicksilver (and Spotlight on Tiger). But I 
really would like to have a default accelerator to skip over the 
auto-pairs, but haven't gotten the proper solution yet. Tab has been 
suggested, but when using {} as auto-pair, tab is likely to be a 
character that will actually be used.



From cryo at cyanite.org  Wed Feb  9 23:43:43 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:43:43 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Command-Spacebar idea
In-Reply-To: <629201c9fda15c4f86979ef3cf54f6c4@westernfreight.com>
References: 
	
	<420A8D34.3000102@factorycity.net> 
	<0666D6FE-7AED-11D9-9D5B-000A95BD7B90@gwi.net>
	
	<629201c9fda15c4f86979ef3cf54f6c4@westernfreight.com>
Message-ID: 

On 10. feb 2005, at 0:31, Edmundo Ortega wrote:

> Using the automatically completing {} () and "" means that after I 
> type the interior part, I have to then hit the right arrow key to 
> leave the braces/parentheses/quotes. Seems like it would be nice to 
> hit command-spacebar to move the cursor one space forward like a 
> hitting the right arrow key. What's the difference? I think it would 
> be a much easier and faster keystroke than moving my pinkie all the 
> way over to the arrow keys. This situation happens hundreds of times a 
> day at least.
>
> Just a thought. I'm sure there are some reasons why it's a terrible 
> idea.

Only reason I can think of is that my QuickSilver hotkey and some 
peoples LaunchBar hotkey is on that combination.. and I think Tiger's 
Spotlight also :-p.

Oh, and do remember to make a new thread next time you change subject 
please :-).

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From ed at westernfreight.com  Wed Feb  9 23:47:09 2005
From: ed at westernfreight.com (Edmundo Ortega)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 15:47:09 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Command-Spacebar idea
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
	<420A8D34.3000102@factorycity.net> 
	<0666D6FE-7AED-11D9-9D5B-000A95BD7B90@gwi.net>
	
	<629201c9fda15c4f86979ef3cf54f6c4@westernfreight.com>
	
Message-ID: <7330b3b5b8bf06e5bedd48c51de65035@westernfreight.com>

> Oh, and do remember to make a new thread next time you change subject 
> please :-).

Doh! My bad! Sorry about the new thread thing - I totally spaced.

Ed



From pmccann at maths.adelaide.edu.au  Thu Feb 10 02:20:05 2005
From: pmccann at maths.adelaide.edu.au (Paul McCann)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:50:05 +1030
Subject: [TxMt] Inserting a File Path
In-Reply-To: <1ad65caaf2f09d18b1dc0259bfc969ad@macromates.com>
References: <20050209052638.GB13996@maths.adelaide.edu.au>
	<1ad65caaf2f09d18b1dc0259bfc969ad@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <20050210022005.GA8605@maths.adelaide.edu.au>

Hi Allan,

[nice discussion of drag commands elided]

> Adding that TextMate just inserts the filename dropped when holding 
> down a qualifier sounds like something that I could just do as a 
> built-in function.

Thanks: It's definitely something I learnt to like about "the old 
editor", and makes scripting tasks that little bit slicker.

Best wishes,
Paul


From lists at elvix.com  Thu Feb 10 09:25:10 2005
From: lists at elvix.com (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Geir_B=E6kholt?=)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:25:10 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Re: TM Icon Poll [Bartelme vs Ethan v3]
In-Reply-To: 
References: 		<420A8D34.3000102@factorycity.net>
		<0666D6FE-7AED-11D9-9D5B-000A95BD7B90@gwi.net>
	
Message-ID: 

Chris Ruzin wrote:
> Michael Gregoire wrote:
> 
> 
>>Just to state the obvious. "Apple Guidelines" are just that, guidlines.
>>Not rules.
>>Remember that an icon is an ICON. It needs to be iconic. That's why the
>>most recent icon works the best IMO.
> 
> 
> IMO, the latest gear icon from Ethan isn't as professional looking as his
> previous incarnation of the gear. The drop shadow is cropped.  The edge of
> the gear is all black, instead of shaded purple, which gives it a cheaper,
> more cartoony look.  Perhaps Ethan just submitted an early vision of what
> the icon will look like?

After lurking on this list for a while, i simply cannot keep my mouth 
shut anymore..
IMHO, there has only been one icon until now that truly works and scales 
and stands out in the crowd - the simplest and most polished of them all.
http://www.fonthead.com/projects/textmateicon.gif

( Sorry, Ethan, the version 3 - 3D-thing looks like something for MS 
Windows. go back to the polished approach, please, please)

Just my 2?


-- 
__________________________________________________________________

  Geir B?kholt    ?    Interaction Engineer    ?   Plone Solutions

  Consulting ? Training ? Development ?  http://plonesolutions.com
__________________________________________________________________



From msheets at whitefalls.org  Thu Feb 10 10:20:54 2005
From: msheets at whitefalls.org (Michael Sheets)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 04:20:54 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Command-Spacebar idea
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
	<420A8D34.3000102@factorycity.net> 
	<0666D6FE-7AED-11D9-9D5B-000A95BD7B90@gwi.net>
	
	<629201c9fda15c4f86979ef3cf54f6c4@westernfreight.com>
	
Message-ID: 

> Well, cmd-space activates Quicksilver (and Spotlight on Tiger).

The default in Quicksilver is now control-spacebar, the dev knows 
better than to step on Apple's default. ;)



From roberto+textmate at keltia.freenix.fr  Thu Feb 10 16:27:41 2005
From: roberto+textmate at keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:27:41 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Fugu and 'Edit in TM'
In-Reply-To: <270622d41958c2ce1095151ebafdb966@biomedinfolab.com>
References: <3d85c7d0c6990dd44444f7a40cad1e6f@Bronosky.com>
	<50ad85b291c09f743899336ab72bd88c@bravo5.org>
	<701a0a879c496ae1ff4a31bbb75b418f@archivistes.com>
	
	<20050209112717.GA96205@tara.freenix.org>
	<270622d41958c2ce1095151ebafdb966@biomedinfolab.com>
Message-ID: <20050210162741.GA48133@tara.freenix.org>

According to Paul Nordstrom August:
> b) Robert, did you get the patched .4? W/o it it behaves as you 
> describe. See the TM wiki

Yes, mine is the fixed one but Allan said he'll look into that.
-- 
Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto at keltia.freenix.fr
Darwin snuadh.freenix.org Kernel Version 7.8.0: Wed Dec 22 14:26:17 PST 2004


From james at grayproductions.net  Thu Feb 10 17:39:42 2005
From: james at grayproductions.net (James Edward Gray II)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:39:42 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Brainstorming Icons
Message-ID: <6eafc32c17cabbba38c8b0fb8769366e@grayproductions.net>

I took my own stab at an icon this morning, after reading Apple's 
Guidelines.  It didn't turn out at nice as anything that's been 
presented here already, but I decided to post it anyway in case it 
gives someone with more talent than me any ideas.

http://www.grayproductions.net/ruby/images/TextMate_Icon.png

In my defense, it looked a lot better when I was still playing with it 
at large sizes in the ray tracer.  :)  You could almost read the code 
and you could see the brushed metals.  Ah well, it seemed like a good 
idea at the time.

James Edward Gray II



From nick.hristov at gmail.com  Thu Feb 10 17:50:38 2005
From: nick.hristov at gmail.com (Nick Hristov)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:50:38 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Brainstorming Icons
In-Reply-To: <6eafc32c17cabbba38c8b0fb8769366e@grayproductions.net>
References: <6eafc32c17cabbba38c8b0fb8769366e@grayproductions.net>
Message-ID: <2c20dac2fce9eb13a4c9d9b110eaa302@iit.edu>

Not bad, except for the rendition does not look like a document.

I would also go with a white, semi-translucent cog wheel.

Nick

On Feb 10, 2005, at 11:39 AM, James Edward Gray II wrote:

> I took my own stab at an icon this morning, after reading Apple's 
> Guidelines.  It didn't turn out at nice as anything that's been 
> presented here already, but I decided to post it anyway in case it 
> gives someone with more talent than me any ideas.
>
> http://www.grayproductions.net/ruby/images/TextMate_Icon.png
>
> In my defense, it looked a lot better when I was still playing with it 
> at large sizes in the ray tracer.  :)  You could almost read the code 
> and you could see the brushed metals.  Ah well, it seemed like a good 
> idea at the time.
>
> James Edward Gray II
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>



From james at grayproductions.net  Thu Feb 10 22:27:46 2005
From: james at grayproductions.net (James Edward Gray II)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:27:46 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Getting Into Templates
Message-ID: <483d449d8e82d00562d939dfe48bbac5@grayproductions.net>

I'm starting to dig a little deeper and let TextMate do more for me.  
Next stop, templates.  While we're there, here are my questions about 
them:

1.  Can I control where my cursor appears after the template is filled 
in?

and

2.  In the project's New File dialog, the template list is in a 
predefined order and the top ten items have key shortcuts.  How can I 
affect this listing, to get my templates were I want them?

Thanks.

James Edward Gray II



From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 11 06:02:20 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 07:02:20 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] subversion bundle
In-Reply-To: <111d85fb048016c8ca28d4b33191320f@toolmantim.com>
References: 
	<111d85fb048016c8ca28d4b33191320f@toolmantim.com>
Message-ID: <4f68a3cbf6627b3772e4e640f3fd8369@macromates.com>

On Feb 9, 2005, at 8:56, Tim Lucas wrote:

>> (2) make the thing run in the background or otherwise not block TM 
>> from running?
>>
>> I'm thinking (2) is impossible unless Allan reworks how commands are 
>> called.
> Alan has mentioned that this will most probably be addressed in a 
> future version.

And the future is now! :)



From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Fri Feb 11 06:58:43 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:58:43 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] subversion bundle
In-Reply-To: <4f68a3cbf6627b3772e4e640f3fd8369@macromates.com>
References: 
	<111d85fb048016c8ca28d4b33191320f@toolmantim.com>
	<4f68a3cbf6627b3772e4e640f3fd8369@macromates.com>
Message-ID: 

At 7:02 AM +0100 2/11/05, Allan Odgaard wrote:
>>>(2) make the thing run in the background or otherwise not block TM 
>>>from running?
>>>
>>>I'm thinking (2) is impossible unless Allan reworks how commands are called.
>>Alan has mentioned that this will most probably be addressed in a 
>>future version.
>
>And the future is now! :)

Awesome. The subversion tooIs are much nicer now.   I like the 
progress indicator too!

- Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From paul at archivistes.com  Fri Feb 11 07:34:04 2005
From: paul at archivistes.com (Paul Nordstrom August)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:34:04 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] b5 -- show invisibles!
Message-ID: <2ad7579ebfab2f2a7b3e560e2eec5015@archivistes.com>

Thank you!

BTW I was dubious about the pen in the icon previously, but in my dock 
it looks pretty good. (I've liked all the recent designs actually.)

Paul



From textmate at aerodynamite.net  Fri Feb 11 10:59:16 2005
From: textmate at aerodynamite.net (tim)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:59:16 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Latex in Beta 5
Message-ID: 

If a Latex document is split into multiple files, the "to PDF" command 
(as advertised on the blog), generates an error. It  worked beautifully 
previously (B4) - please could this be fixed in the next beta.

Also, there are now two latex bundles (LaTeX and Latex), which is the 
most up-to-date?

Thanks,
Tim



From mats at imediatec.co.uk  Fri Feb 11 11:47:56 2005
From: mats at imediatec.co.uk (Mats Persson)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:47:56 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] A few problems with inserting text via a Command ???
Message-ID: <65b3ec03ed33e470e63ab18fe4adcda0@imediatec.co.uk>


I have a number of Commands to insert some text into the document, but 
all of them have a couple of 'side-effects' that I don't want.

1.	The inserted text is always selected, and I would prefer it to not 
be selected.

2.	There is always a New line character behind the input, whereas I 
would just want the cursor to remain immediately behind the inserted 
text on the same line.

What is it that I'm missing or doing wrong ?? Any help would be 
gratefully received.

Command Examples:

INSERT DATE:
Save: Nothing
Command: 	echo `date +%Y-%m-%d`
Input: None
Output: Tried all versions ( Insert as Snippet / Replace Selected text  
/ etc )

INSERT PATH2FILE:
Save: Nothing
Command: 	echo $TM_FILEPATH | sed 
"s|^$TM_USER_ROOT_DIRECTORY\(.*\)\$|\1|"
Input: None
Output: Tried all versions ( Insert as Snippet / Replace Selected text  
/ etc )


Kind regards,

Mats

----
"TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
- www.macromates.com -



From richbarton at mac.com  Fri Feb 11 11:57:18 2005
From: richbarton at mac.com (Rich Barton)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 12:57:18 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] A few problems with inserting text via a Command ???
In-Reply-To: <65b3ec03ed33e470e63ab18fe4adcda0@imediatec.co.uk>
References: <65b3ec03ed33e470e63ab18fe4adcda0@imediatec.co.uk>
Message-ID: <6a93d3ed846ac4caf37bb4ca8c0f884e@mac.com>

On 11 Feb 2005, at 12:47, Mats Persson wrote:

> 2.	There is always a New line character behind the input, whereas I 
> would just want the cursor to remain immediately behind the inserted 
> text on the same line.

You can use the -n switch to remove the trailing newline, i.e.

echo -n `date +%Y-%m-%d`

hth,

Rich Barton



From mats at imediatec.co.uk  Fri Feb 11 12:06:31 2005
From: mats at imediatec.co.uk (Mats Persson)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 12:06:31 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] A few problems with inserting text via a Command ???
In-Reply-To: <6a93d3ed846ac4caf37bb4ca8c0f884e@mac.com>
References: <65b3ec03ed33e470e63ab18fe4adcda0@imediatec.co.uk>
	<6a93d3ed846ac4caf37bb4ca8c0f884e@mac.com>
Message-ID: <4c2b3dccf1f39376594bc8badb69b5c7@imediatec.co.uk>


On 11 Feb 2005, at 11:57, Rich Barton wrote:
> On 11 Feb 2005, at 12:47, Mats Persson wrote:
>> 2.	There is always a New line character behind the input, whereas I 
>> would just want the cursor to remain immediately behind the inserted 
>> text on the same line.
>
> You can use the -n switch to remove the trailing newline, i.e.
> echo -n `date +%Y-%m-%d`

Thanks Rich, that helped me a lot. Now I can just 'arrow-left' and 
continue typing. Thank you!

Kind regards,

Mats

----
"TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
- www.macromates.com -



From mats at imediatec.co.uk  Fri Feb 11 12:13:44 2005
From: mats at imediatec.co.uk (Mats Persson)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 12:13:44 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] A few problems with inserting text via a Command ???
In-Reply-To: <4c2b3dccf1f39376594bc8badb69b5c7@imediatec.co.uk>
References: <65b3ec03ed33e470e63ab18fe4adcda0@imediatec.co.uk>
	<6a93d3ed846ac4caf37bb4ca8c0f884e@mac.com>
	<4c2b3dccf1f39376594bc8badb69b5c7@imediatec.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1a7fb9d7fbe8d8358b301f2b10d529ee@imediatec.co.uk>


On 11 Feb 2005, at 12:06, Mats Persson wrote:
> On 11 Feb 2005, at 11:57, Rich Barton wrote:
>> On 11 Feb 2005, at 12:47, Mats Persson wrote:
>>> 2.	There is always a New line character behind the input, whereas I 
>>> would just want the cursor to remain immediately behind the inserted 
>>> text on the same line.
>>
>> You can use the -n switch to remove the trailing newline, i.e.
>> echo -n `date +%Y-%m-%d`
>
> Thanks Rich, that helped me a lot. Now I can just 'arrow-left' and 
> continue typing. Thank you!

Ah, spoke to early there.  :(  The following command still produces a 
New line character behind it.

echo -n  $TM_FILEPATH | sed "s|^$TM_USER_ROOT_DIRECTORY\(.*\)\$|\1|"

Any idea of how to avoid that one ???

Kind regards,

Mats

----
"TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
- www.macromates.com -



From blalor at bravo5.org  Fri Feb 11 12:32:49 2005
From: blalor at bravo5.org (Brian Lalor)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 07:32:49 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] A few problems with inserting text via a Command ???
In-Reply-To: <1a7fb9d7fbe8d8358b301f2b10d529ee@imediatec.co.uk>
References: <65b3ec03ed33e470e63ab18fe4adcda0@imediatec.co.uk>
	<6a93d3ed846ac4caf37bb4ca8c0f884e@mac.com>
	<4c2b3dccf1f39376594bc8badb69b5c7@imediatec.co.uk>
	<1a7fb9d7fbe8d8358b301f2b10d529ee@imediatec.co.uk>
Message-ID: <7824bf3bf2d1dec3f13f293bf3b39d2f@bravo5.org>

On Feb 11, 2005, at 7:13 AM, Mats Persson wrote:

> Ah, spoke to early there.  :(  The following command still produces a 
> New line character behind it.
>
> echo -n  $TM_FILEPATH | sed "s|^$TM_USER_ROOT_DIRECTORY\(.*\)\$|\1|"
>
> Any idea of how to avoid that one ???

echo  $TM_FILEPATH | sed "s|^$TM_USER_ROOT_DIRECTORY\(.*\)\$|\1|" | tr 
-d '\n'

-- 
    __   ____
   / /  / __/ Brian Lalor
  / _ \/__ \  blalor at bravo5.org
/_.__/____/  http://bravo5.org/


From rzigweid at zigweid.net  Fri Feb 11 13:02:46 2005
From: rzigweid at zigweid.net (Robert M.Zigweid)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:02:46 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Temp files in 'Open Recent' menu
Message-ID: <86fd437d8bb51c0c6b8354ac35d6afe7@zigweid.net>

Especially when using things like the Subversion bundle, these files 
showing up in the 'Open Recent' makes the feature approach useless.  Is 
there any way that these files could be ignored for this?
-- 
Robert M. Zigweid                           rzigweid at zigweid.net
                                             http://rzigweid.zigweid.net
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From richbarton at mac.com  Fri Feb 11 13:38:48 2005
From: richbarton at mac.com (Rich Barton)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:38:48 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Text zooming key combos
Message-ID: <21caa802de2a0a2631a2b49757742ec5@mac.com>

The new text zoom feature is great, except that zooming in is literally 
bound to Command+`+` (that's command and the plus key). On PowerBooks 
and iBooks, `+` requires an extra modifier (shift), whereas `-` 
doesn't. Ideally, both would be consistent with one another.

Could zooming in be bound to Command-= (as well as Command-+)? From my 
quick tests, Safari and Proteus similarly support both, but Mail, 
Terminal and TextEdit don't (go figure).

Any opinions on this?

Rich Barton



From bonelake at mac.com  Fri Feb 11 13:44:05 2005
From: bonelake at mac.com (Brad Miller)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 07:44:05 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Latex in Beta 5
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <638b0c70720f9d54c453b003c93d1b77@mac.com>

Something is fishy, because Latex isn't even showing up in my bundle 
list.

Its there in /Applications/TextMate.app/...

What is worse is that TextMate deleted the Latex.tmbundle directory 
from my own ~/Library/Applications Support/TextMate/Bundles directory.

I've tried twice now:
quit TM,
svn update my Bundles directory (Latex.tmbundle is there),
restart TM (no latex in bundle list)
Quit TM no more Latex.tmbundle in bundles directory.

I've also tried to move aside my bundles directory and just run with 
the set delivered inside TextMate.app

Latex does not show up there either.

Brad

On Feb 11, 2005, at 4:59 AM, tim wrote:

> If a Latex document is split into multiple files, the "to PDF" command 
> (as advertised on the blog), generates an error. It  worked 
> beautifully previously (B4) - please could this be fixed in the next 
> beta.
>
> Also, there are now two latex bundles (LaTeX and Latex), which is the 
> most up-to-date?
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>
Brad Miller, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor, Computer Science
Luther College
http://www.cs.luther.edu/~bmiller



From jeroen at je-ju.net  Fri Feb 11 13:54:06 2005
From: jeroen at je-ju.net (Jeroen van der Ham)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:54:06 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Latex in Beta 5
In-Reply-To: <638b0c70720f9d54c453b003c93d1b77@mac.com>
References: 
	<638b0c70720f9d54c453b003c93d1b77@mac.com>
Message-ID: <420CB8FE.7080200@je-ju.net>

Are you sure you enabled it in the Bundle Editor?

(Window -> Bundle Editor -> Change Filtering)

Jeroen.

On 11-02-2005 14:44, Brad Miller wrote:
> Something is fishy, because Latex isn't even showing up in my bundle list.
> 
> Its there in /Applications/TextMate.app/...
> 
> What is worse is that TextMate deleted the Latex.tmbundle directory from 
> my own ~/Library/Applications Support/TextMate/Bundles directory.
> 
> I've tried twice now:
> quit TM,
> svn update my Bundles directory (Latex.tmbundle is there),
> restart TM (no latex in bundle list)
> Quit TM no more Latex.tmbundle in bundles directory.
> 
> I've also tried to move aside my bundles directory and just run with the 
> set delivered inside TextMate.app
> 
> Latex does not show up there either.
> 
> Brad
> 
> On Feb 11, 2005, at 4:59 AM, tim wrote:
> 
>> If a Latex document is split into multiple files, the "to PDF" command 
>> (as advertised on the blog), generates an error. It  worked 
>> beautifully previously (B4) - please could this be fixed in the next 
>> beta.
>>
>> Also, there are now two latex bundles (LaTeX and Latex), which is the 
>> most up-to-date?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tim
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________________
>> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
>> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
>> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>>
> Brad Miller, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor, Computer Science
> Luther College
> http://www.cs.luther.edu/~bmiller
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate

-- 
                "We apologize for the inconvenience"
             (See "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy")


From bmiller at luther.edu  Fri Feb 11 13:55:24 2005
From: bmiller at luther.edu (Brad Miller)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 07:55:24 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Latex in Beta 5
In-Reply-To: <638b0c70720f9d54c453b003c93d1b77@mac.com>
References: 
	<638b0c70720f9d54c453b003c93d1b77@mac.com>
Message-ID: 

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One more quick datapoint.  Removing the TextMate directory from App 
Support *AND* moving aside the preferences file seems to restore the 
presence of Latex from the application directory.

Brad

On Feb 11, 2005, at 7:44 AM, Brad Miller wrote:

> Something is fishy, because Latex isn't even showing up in my bundle 
> list.
>
> Its there in /Applications/TextMate.app/...
>
> What is worse is that TextMate deleted the Latex.tmbundle directory 
> from my own ~/Library/Applications Support/TextMate/Bundles directory.
>
> I've tried twice now:
> quit TM,
> svn update my Bundles directory (Latex.tmbundle is there),
> restart TM (no latex in bundle list)
> Quit TM no more Latex.tmbundle in bundles directory.
>
> I've also tried to move aside my bundles directory and just run with 
> the set delivered inside TextMate.app
>
> Latex does not show up there either.
>
> Brad
>
> On Feb 11, 2005, at 4:59 AM, tim wrote:
>
>> If a Latex document is split into multiple files, the "to PDF" 
>> command (as advertised on the blog), generates an error. It  worked 
>> beautifully previously (B4) - please could this be fixed in the next 
>> beta.
>>
>> Also, there are now two latex bundles (LaTeX and Latex), which is the 
>> most up-to-date?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tim
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________________
>> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
>> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
>> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>>
> Brad Miller, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor, Computer Science
> Luther College
> http://www.cs.luther.edu/~bmiller
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>
Brad Miller, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor, Computer Science
Luther College
http://www.cs.luther.edu/~bmiller
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From bmiller at luther.edu  Fri Feb 11 13:56:03 2005
From: bmiller at luther.edu (Brad Miller)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 07:56:03 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Latex in Beta 5
In-Reply-To: <420CB8FE.7080200@je-ju.net>
References: 
	<638b0c70720f9d54c453b003c93d1b77@mac.com>
	<420CB8FE.7080200@je-ju.net>
Message-ID: <10bcc0d94cbc305f649f787cab23c80c@luther.edu>

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Yes, It doesn't even show up in the list to enable!
On Feb 11, 2005, at 7:54 AM, Jeroen van der Ham wrote:

> Are you sure you enabled it in the Bundle Editor?
>
> (Window -> Bundle Editor -> Change Filtering)
>
> Jeroen.
>
> On 11-02-2005 14:44, Brad Miller wrote:
>> Something is fishy, because Latex isn't even showing up in my bundle  
>> list.
>> Its there in /Applications/TextMate.app/...
>> What is worse is that TextMate deleted the Latex.tmbundle directory  
>> from my own ~/Library/Applications Support/TextMate/Bundles  
>> directory.
>> I've tried twice now:
>> quit TM,
>> svn update my Bundles directory (Latex.tmbundle is there),
>> restart TM (no latex in bundle list)
>> Quit TM no more Latex.tmbundle in bundles directory.
>> I've also tried to move aside my bundles directory and just run with  
>> the set delivered inside TextMate.app
>> Latex does not show up there either.
>> Brad
>> On Feb 11, 2005, at 4:59 AM, tim wrote:
>>> If a Latex document is split into multiple files, the "to PDF"  
>>> command (as advertised on the blog), generates an error. It  worked  
>>> beautifully previously (B4) - please could this be fixed in the next  
>>> beta.
>>>
>>> Also, there are now two latex bundles (LaTeX and Latex), which is  
>>> the most up-to-date?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> _____________________________________________________________________ 
>>> _
>>> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
>>> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you  
>>> don't)
>>> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>>>
>> Brad Miller, Ph.D.
>> Assistant Professor, Computer Science
>> Luther College
>> http://www.cs.luther.edu/~bmiller
>> ______________________________________________________________________
>> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
>> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
>> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>
> -- 
>                "We apologize for the inconvenience"
>             (See "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy")
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>
Brad Miller, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor, Computer Science
Luther College
http://www.cs.luther.edu/~bmiller
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From cryo at cyanite.org  Fri Feb 11 14:27:51 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:27:51 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Text zooming key combos
In-Reply-To: <21caa802de2a0a2631a2b49757742ec5@mac.com>
References: <21caa802de2a0a2631a2b49757742ec5@mac.com>
Message-ID: <9e21180e54465ed0ed9d76126f9ebc02@cyanite.org>

On 11. feb 2005, at 14:38, Rich Barton wrote:

> The new text zoom feature is great, except that zooming in is 
> literally bound to Command+`+` (that's command and the plus key). On 
> PowerBooks and iBooks, `+` requires an extra modifier (shift), whereas 
> `-` doesn't. Ideally, both would be consistent with one another.
>
> Could zooming in be bound to Command-= (as well as Command-+)? From my 
> quick tests, Safari and Proteus similarly support both, but Mail, 
> Terminal and TextEdit don't (go figure).
> Any opinions on this?

Same issue with zoom, which is now per default bound to keys good on 
powerbook (and maybe US keymaps), but not good with a keypad, where I 
would prefer +/-. On powerbook they end up on the two keys next to 
backspace IIRC.

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From cryo at cyanite.org  Fri Feb 11 14:29:19 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:29:19 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Temp files in 'Open Recent' menu
In-Reply-To: <86fd437d8bb51c0c6b8354ac35d6afe7@zigweid.net>
References: <86fd437d8bb51c0c6b8354ac35d6afe7@zigweid.net>
Message-ID: 

On 11. feb 2005, at 14:02, Robert M.Zigweid wrote:

> Especially when using things like the Subversion bundle, these files 
> showing up in the 'Open Recent' makes the feature approach useless.  
> Is there any way that these files could be ignored for this?

In general the open recent behaves very strange on my system; I pretty 
much never use it now because of it.

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From cryo at cyanite.org  Fri Feb 11 14:31:34 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:31:34 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Latex in Beta 5
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <74493614c470c8941ed30fda8b5383df@cyanite.org>

On 11. feb 2005, at 11:59, tim wrote:

> If a Latex document is split into multiple files, the "to PDF" command 
> (as advertised on the blog), generates an error. It  worked 
> beautifully previously (B4) - please could this be fixed in the next 
> beta.

I got that to. Change the command in this way (replace the section with 
this):

--->---
# if TM_LATEX_MASTER not set use TM_FILEPATH
[ -z "$TM_LATEX_MASTER" ] &&
    export TM_LATEX_MASTER=$TM_FILEPATH

cd `dirname $TM_LATEX_MASTER`
pdflatex -interaction=nonstopmode -file-line-error \
   -halt-on-error -output-directory /tmp \
   -jobname `basename ${tmp}` `basename "$TM_LATEX_MASTER"` \
| perl -pe '$| = 1; s/^(\/.*?):(\d+):\s*(.*)$/$3<\/a>/'
---<---

..and that will make it work again.

> Also, there are now two latex bundles (LaTeX and Latex), which is the 
> most up-to-date?

The other one might be from your local disk? Mine is called LaTeX, I 
think that's the new one.

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From mats at imediatec.co.uk  Fri Feb 11 14:37:46 2005
From: mats at imediatec.co.uk (Mats Persson)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:37:46 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] A few problems with inserting text via a Command ???
In-Reply-To: <7824bf3bf2d1dec3f13f293bf3b39d2f@bravo5.org>
References: <65b3ec03ed33e470e63ab18fe4adcda0@imediatec.co.uk>
	<6a93d3ed846ac4caf37bb4ca8c0f884e@mac.com>
	<4c2b3dccf1f39376594bc8badb69b5c7@imediatec.co.uk>
	<1a7fb9d7fbe8d8358b301f2b10d529ee@imediatec.co.uk>
	<7824bf3bf2d1dec3f13f293bf3b39d2f@bravo5.org>
Message-ID: <41f7603fc46dbe1101a5b9cecc941882@imediatec.co.uk>


On 11 Feb 2005, at 12:32, Brian Lalor wrote:
> On Feb 11, 2005, at 7:13 AM, Mats Persson wrote:
>> Ah, spoke to early there.  :(  The following command still produces a 
>> New line character behind it.
>> echo -n  $TM_FILEPATH | sed "s|^$TM_USER_ROOT_DIRECTORY\(.*\)\$|\1|"
>> Any idea of how to avoid that one ???
> echo  $TM_FILEPATH | sed "s|^$TM_USER_ROOT_DIRECTORY\(.*\)\$|\1|" | tr 
> -d '\n'

Thank you Brian !!  I've been trying to read and understand all this 
*NIX stuff, but can't seem to get it. Will keep on trying though.


Kind regards,

Mats

----
"TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
- www.macromates.com -



From roberto+textmate at keltia.freenix.fr  Fri Feb 11 14:51:01 2005
From: roberto+textmate at keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:51:01 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Temp files in 'Open Recent' menu
In-Reply-To: <86fd437d8bb51c0c6b8354ac35d6afe7@zigweid.net>
References: <86fd437d8bb51c0c6b8354ac35d6afe7@zigweid.net>
Message-ID: <20050211145101.GA61822@tara.freenix.org>

According to Robert M.Zigweid:
> Especially when using things like the Subversion bundle, these files 
> showing up in the 'Open Recent' makes the feature approach useless.  Is 
> there any way that these files could be ignored for this?

Interesting.  As I edit my Arch commit logs outside the project (using
"tm $(tla make-log)") I don't see them in "Open Recent..."...
-- 
Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto at keltia.freenix.fr
Darwin snuadh.freenix.org Kernel Version 7.8.0: Wed Dec 22 14:26:17 PST 2004


From mats at imediatec.co.uk  Fri Feb 11 15:13:27 2005
From: mats at imediatec.co.uk (Mats Persson)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:13:27 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] New TM Doc in Finder Contextal Menu. Any ideas ??
Message-ID: 


I've found myself using TM for almost every single thing that I write, 
so sometimes I like to be able to create a new TM document in the 
current Finder window.

Had a look at trying to create a Contextual Menu plug-in, but it looked 
too complicated, so does anyone have a suggestion for how to do this ??


Kind regards,

Mats

----
"TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
- www.macromates.com -



From richbarton at mac.com  Fri Feb 11 15:26:27 2005
From: richbarton at mac.com (Rich Barton)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:26:27 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] More key binding fun
Message-ID: <6309e337f4b46823ab42f9cece23044b@mac.com>

Because of the Text -> Convert -> to Titlecase key binding (option+u), 
I can no longer (easily) insert characters with umlauts (?, ?, etc.).

Is there a workaround/clever solution/cunning plan to deal with this?

Rich Barton


From cryo at cyanite.org  Fri Feb 11 15:33:07 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:33:07 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] More key binding fun
In-Reply-To: <6309e337f4b46823ab42f9cece23044b@mac.com>
References: <6309e337f4b46823ab42f9cece23044b@mac.com>
Message-ID: <2595e5fdc56b192a54ba59db7c5da0af@cyanite.org>

On 11. feb 2005, at 16:26, Rich Barton wrote:

> Because of the Text -> Convert -> to Titlecase key binding (option+u), 
> I can no longer (easily) insert characters with umlauts (?, ?, etc.).
> Is there a workaround/clever solution/cunning plan to deal with this?

You a keymap with dead-keys for ? ^ ? ` and the like? ;-). That's how 
the danish one is layed out, but then again we don't need accented 
glyphs _that_ often.

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From cryo at cyanite.org  Fri Feb 11 15:34:36 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:34:36 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] More key binding fun
In-Reply-To: <2595e5fdc56b192a54ba59db7c5da0af@cyanite.org>
References: <6309e337f4b46823ab42f9cece23044b@mac.com>
	<2595e5fdc56b192a54ba59db7c5da0af@cyanite.org>
Message-ID: <2b54bd0896107b256056b38708d9d27d@cyanite.org>

On 11. feb 2005, at 16:33, Sune Foldager wrote:
> You a keymap.
_USE_ a keymap, rather.

-- 
Sune.



From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Fri Feb 11 15:34:49 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 07:34:49 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] More key binding fun
In-Reply-To: <6309e337f4b46823ab42f9cece23044b@mac.com>
References: <6309e337f4b46823ab42f9cece23044b@mac.com>
Message-ID: 

At 4:26 PM +0100 2/11/05, Rich Barton wrote:
>Because of the Text -> Convert -> to Titlecase 
>key binding (option+u), I can no longer (easily) 
>insert characters with umlauts (?, ?, etc.).
>
>Is there a workaround/clever solution/cunning plan to deal with this?

I've been using Menu Master, which lets you 
assign/delete/edit menu shortcuts right in the 
menu. It functionally overlaps the Apple Keyboard 
syspref capabilities, but is a lot more elegant.

- Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From kmcmillan at leapfrogonline.com  Fri Feb 11 16:04:36 2005
From: kmcmillan at leapfrogonline.com (kumar mcmillan)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:04:36 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] More key binding fun
In-Reply-To: 
References: <6309e337f4b46823ab42f9cece23044b@mac.com>
	
Message-ID: 

even though a little OT, I wanted to use this thread to put in another 
*nudge* for you Allan to list any not-listed navigational key-commands 
in the Navigation menu.  This came up originally when I was asking for 
a key command to switch between file drawer and edit panel but it 
already existed and I just didn't know it (^ tab).  Now.... after 
experimenting I have been using cmd+opt-W to center the carret on the 
screen, but --doh-- this is actually just toggling soft wrap on and off 
with a nice side effect of centering the carret.  Is there a command to 
*just* center the carret on the screen?

While I'm at it :) opt+down/up-arrow is excellent for hopping around 
code blocks but it seems to be a bit buggy in my PHP classes.  For 
instance, when inside a function def it hops around nicely from control 
structure to structure but when outside a function block it will just 
send me to the bottom of the class.  In general it seems a little 
erratic so I thought I would mention it in case you want some code 
samples to see for yourself.

thx, k

On Feb 11, 2005, at 9:34 AM, Eric Hsu wrote:

> At 4:26 PM +0100 2/11/05, Rich Barton wrote:
>> Because of the Text -> Convert -> to Titlecase key binding 
>> (option+u), I can no longer (easily) insert characters with umlauts 
>> (?, ?, etc.).
>>
>> Is there a workaround/clever solution/cunning plan to deal with this?
>
> I've been using Menu Master, which lets you assign/delete/edit menu 
> shortcuts right in the menu. It functionally overlaps the Apple 
> Keyboard syspref capabilities, but is a lot more elegant.
>
> - Eric
> --
> Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
> San Francisco State University
> erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
> http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate



From bmiller at luther.edu  Fri Feb 11 16:24:53 2005
From: bmiller at luther.edu (Brad Miller)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:24:53 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Latex in Beta 5
In-Reply-To: <74493614c470c8941ed30fda8b5383df@cyanite.org>
References: 
	<74493614c470c8941ed30fda8b5383df@cyanite.org>
Message-ID: 

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What error are you getting?  The command works out of the box for me, 
so I'm wondering what's different between your setup and mine that is 
causing you to get an error.

Thanks,

Brad

On Feb 11, 2005, at 8:31 AM, Sune Foldager wrote:

> On 11. feb 2005, at 11:59, tim wrote:
>
>> If a Latex document is split into multiple files, the "to PDF" 
>> command (as advertised on the blog), generates an error. It  worked 
>> beautifully previously (B4) - please could this be fixed in the next 
>> beta.
>
> I got that to. Change the command in this way (replace the section 
> with this):
>
> --->---
> # if TM_LATEX_MASTER not set use TM_FILEPATH
> [ -z "$TM_LATEX_MASTER" ] &&
>    export TM_LATEX_MASTER=$TM_FILEPATH
>
> cd `dirname $TM_LATEX_MASTER`
> pdflatex -interaction=nonstopmode -file-line-error \
>   -halt-on-error -output-directory /tmp \
>   -jobname `basename ${tmp}` `basename "$TM_LATEX_MASTER"` \
> | perl -pe '$| = 1; s/^(\/.*?):(\d+):\s*(.*)$/ href="txmt:\/\/open?url=file:\/\/$1&line=$2">$3<\/a>/'
> ---<---
>
> ..and that will make it work again.
>
>> Also, there are now two latex bundles (LaTeX and Latex), which is the 
>> most up-to-date?
>
> The other one might be from your local disk? Mine is called LaTeX, I 
> think that's the new one.
>
> -- 
> Sune.
> :: the Cottage of Lost Play.
> :: http://cyanite.org
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>
Brad Miller, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor, Computer Science
Luther College
http://www.cs.luther.edu/~bmiller
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From cryo at cyanite.org  Fri Feb 11 16:42:50 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:42:50 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Latex in Beta 5
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<74493614c470c8941ed30fda8b5383df@cyanite.org>
	
Message-ID: 

On 11. feb 2005, at 17:24, Brad Miller wrote:

> What error are you getting?  The command works out of the box for me, 
> so I'm wondering what's different between your setup and mine that is 
> causing you to get an error.

The command works as long as you either use absolute paths or hapen to 
be in the right directory, for included files (with \input, included 
packages etc. etc.). Otherwise, the patch is necessary and doesn't hurt 
at any rate. I'm sure it'll be in the next release :).

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From textmate at aerodynamite.net  Fri Feb 11 17:00:27 2005
From: textmate at aerodynamite.net (tim)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:00:27 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Latex in Beta 5
In-Reply-To: <74493614c470c8941ed30fda8b5383df@cyanite.org>
References: 
	<74493614c470c8941ed30fda8b5383df@cyanite.org>
Message-ID: <6D80171C-7C4E-11D9-8337-000393A7EA14@aerodynamite.net>


Sune Foldager wrote:

> Change the command in this way (replace the section with this):
> ...
> and that will make it work again.


That did indeed work, thanks.

In the meantime I had switched back to b4, which also didn't work, but 
I was immediately lost without some of the new small features - like 
being able to open a directory and such. Still waiting for SFTP :) Keep 
up the good work Allan!

Tim



From bmiller at luther.edu  Fri Feb 11 17:28:00 2005
From: bmiller at luther.edu (Brad Miller)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:28:00 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Latex in Beta 5
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<74493614c470c8941ed30fda8b5383df@cyanite.org>
	
	
Message-ID: <56268844555c9dbad66a0fa4b3c866cf@luther.edu>

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Since I added the code for TM_LATEX_MASTER in the first place I just 
wanted to see the conditions where it was not working.  Thanks for 
fixing it.

Brad

On Feb 11, 2005, at 10:42 AM, Sune Foldager wrote:

> On 11. feb 2005, at 17:24, Brad Miller wrote:
>
>> What error are you getting?  The command works out of the box for me, 
>> so I'm wondering what's different between your setup and mine that is 
>> causing you to get an error.
>
> The command works as long as you either use absolute paths or hapen to 
> be in the right directory, for included files (with \input, included 
> packages etc. etc.). Otherwise, the patch is necessary and doesn't 
> hurt at any rate. I'm sure it'll be in the next release :).
>
> -- 
> Sune.
> :: the Cottage of Lost Play.
> :: http://cyanite.org
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>
Brad Miller, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor, Computer Science
Luther College
http://www.cs.luther.edu/~bmiller
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From ecurtis at rgbdesignstudio.com  Fri Feb 11 17:40:18 2005
From: ecurtis at rgbdesignstudio.com (Eric Curtis)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:40:18 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] b5 unmountable?
Message-ID: <8a305bd75c9570e72d4d7c9a62689915@rgbdesignstudio.com>

I have tried downloading b5 twice. Once from the prompt inside tm b4 
and once from the website and both times the dmg has reported that it 
was not mountable...

never had a problem like this before so I am at a loss as to wether it 
is something on my end.

Thanks,

Eric C



From fredb7 at starflam.com  Fri Feb 11 17:50:23 2005
From: fredb7 at starflam.com (Fred B.)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:50:23 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] More key binding fun
In-Reply-To: <6309e337f4b46823ab42f9cece23044b@mac.com>
References: <6309e337f4b46823ab42f9cece23044b@mac.com>
Message-ID: 

On 11 f?vr. 05, at 16:26, Rich Barton wrote:

> Because of the Text -> Convert -> to Titlecase key binding (option+u), 
> I can no longer (easily) insert characters with umlauts (?, ?, etc.).
>
> Is there a workaround/clever solution/cunning plan to deal with this?
>
> Rich Barton
>

I think Option and Option+Shift (without another modifier) shouldn't be 
used at all for shortcuts.

Here are some characters, needing those combos, that I use often:

Option: { } $

Option + Shift: [ ] \ |

You'll agree that they can be useful when coding. ;)

--
Fred



From robert_ullrey at mac.com  Fri Feb 11 17:52:10 2005
From: robert_ullrey at mac.com (Mr. Robert Ullrey)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:52:10 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] b5 unmountable?
In-Reply-To: <8a305bd75c9570e72d4d7c9a62689915@rgbdesignstudio.com>
Message-ID: 


*********************************************************************
Eric Curtis wrote on [Friday, February 11, 2005 -0800]


>     I have tried downloading b5 twice. Once from the
>     prompt inside tm b4 and once from the website and
>     both times the dmg has reported that it was not
>     mountable...
> 
>     never had a problem like this before so I am at a
>     loss as to wether it is something on my end.

I had this problem too but was able to get a mountable download from
versiontracker. 

Cheers


From ed at westernfreight.com  Fri Feb 11 18:36:38 2005
From: ed at westernfreight.com (Edmundo Ortega)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:36:38 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Option to disable automatic tab creation
Message-ID: 

We've talked about this before, but I don't think anything became of 
it. Here's the idea:

Create a preference so that new tabs are not created for every item 
clicked in the project drawer. To create a tab you would have to 
shift-command-click or something like that. Without the modified click, 
the current file would open either in a special "current item" tab on 
the left, that would simply be replaced by whichever item is clicked on 
next.

This is similar to Safari's tabbed page behavior.

For super-organized people that remember to close all the tabs they 
don't really need, they can choose not use the preference and retain 
the current behavior.

For people like me that quickly reference other files and then forget 
to close them, this would be a nice way to avoid unnecessary tab 
clutter.

Ed



From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Fri Feb 11 19:16:12 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:16:12 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] New TM Doc in Finder Contextal Menu. Any ideas ??
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

At 3:13 PM +0000 2/11/05, Mats Persson wrote:
>I've found myself using TM for almost every single thing that I 
>write, so sometimes I like to be able to create a new TM document in 
>the current Finder window.
>
>Had a look at trying to create a Contextual Menu plug-in, but it 
>looked too complicated, so does anyone have a suggestion for how to 
>do this ??

OnMyCommandCM (free at http://www.abracode.com/free/cmworkshop/) lets 
you write your own CMs using shell scripts. I just downloaded it and 
have quickly hacked out two contextual menu commands:

Edit in TM (pop it up on a file)
Edit New File Here in TM (pop it up on a directory; if you pick a 
file, it puts a new file in the same directory)

To install:
1. Download and install OMC.
2. Make sure you have the 1.1b5 tm CLI command.
3. Download OnMyCommandCMs from 
http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk/Tools/CM/
4. Import the commands using the OMC_Edit tool in the OMC folder.
5. It expects ~/bin/tm to be the binary. If yours is elsewhere, use 
OMC_Edit to change the paths.

I hope that helps.

best, Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 11 19:23:53 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:23:53 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Getting Into Templates
In-Reply-To: <483d449d8e82d00562d939dfe48bbac5@grayproductions.net>
References: <483d449d8e82d00562d939dfe48bbac5@grayproductions.net>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 10, 2005, at 23:27, James Edward Gray II wrote:

> 1.  Can I control where my cursor appears after the template is filled 
> in?

Currently not -- in the future (the one that isn't now ;) ) I'll most 
likely add 'snippet' as the output option of templates, which would 
also allow placeholders and shell interpolation w/o going through a 
pre-processor.

> 2.  In the project's New File dialog, the template list is in a 
> predefined order and the top ten items have key shortcuts.  How can I 
> affect this listing, to get my templates were I want them?

Currently you can't -- but the activation method in the bundle editor 
should be extended to templates (and syntaxes) for easier activation. 
Also the templates should respect the filtering options -- some of this 
will be implemented shortly, including instantiating templates w/o a 
project.



From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 11 19:29:47 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:29:47 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Text zooming key combos
In-Reply-To: <21caa802de2a0a2631a2b49757742ec5@mac.com>
References: <21caa802de2a0a2631a2b49757742ec5@mac.com>
Message-ID: <883150d305dc016f82a6c99139e67ebc@macromates.com>

On Feb 11, 2005, at 14:38, Rich Barton wrote:

> Could zooming in be bound to Command-= (as well as Command-+)? From my 
> quick tests, Safari and Proteus similarly support both, but Mail, 
> Terminal and TextEdit don't (go figure).

Unfortunately it's not easy for me to do this w/o actually adding a new 
menu item with this key equivalent (since for the majority of keys with 
the command qualifier down, the key is eaten by the Carbon menu manager 
before I see it).

You can however change the default key either using Menu Masters or 
System Preferences / Mouse & Keyboard.



From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 11 19:36:37 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:36:37 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] A few problems with inserting text via a Command ???
In-Reply-To: <65b3ec03ed33e470e63ab18fe4adcda0@imediatec.co.uk>
References: <65b3ec03ed33e470e63ab18fe4adcda0@imediatec.co.uk>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 11, 2005, at 12:47, Mats Persson wrote:

> 1.	The inserted text is always selected, and I would prefer it to not 
> be selected.

You should be able to not have it selected if you insert as snippet.

> 2.	There is always a New line character behind the input, whereas I 
> would just want the cursor to remain immediately behind the inserted 
> text on the same line.

I know this was already answered, but just to summarize:

echo -n            # insert text w/o newline
echo  | tr -d '\n' # let tr delete any newline characters

Additionally you can also create your ?command? as a snippet. Snippets 
lets you execute shell commands using backticks (`) so e.g. this 
snippet:

`date +%Y-%m-%d`

Would insert current date. For shell commands in snippets, TextMate 
automatically removes the last newline. And actually, if you look in 
the Text Utilities bundle, there already is a snippet to insert current 
date, though with time zone set to GMT [1] and including 
hours/minutes/seconds. The tab trigger is 'isoD'.


[1] after having worked with date-stamped information, I have given up 
on local time-zones and their DST oddities ;)


From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 11 19:37:49 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:37:49 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Temp files in 'Open Recent' menu
In-Reply-To: <86fd437d8bb51c0c6b8354ac35d6afe7@zigweid.net>
References: <86fd437d8bb51c0c6b8354ac35d6afe7@zigweid.net>
Message-ID: <1670e400a0aa543d2c58f738930ce9a1@macromates.com>

On Feb 11, 2005, at 14:02, Robert M.Zigweid wrote:

> Especially when using things like the Subversion bundle, these files 
> showing up in the 'Open Recent' makes the feature approach useless.  
> Is there any way that these files could be ignored for this?

I probably could make all files opened either via the URL scheme or the 
tm utility be skipped for the recent list.



From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 11 19:49:02 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:49:02 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Latex in Beta 5
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <069614e2f5748f51fdca64d14893ed1c@macromates.com>

On Feb 11, 2005, at 11:59, tim wrote:

> Also, there are now two latex bundles (LaTeX and Latex), which is the 
> most up-to-date?

Two? In the bundle editor?

My TextMate only has one. If you have a local bundle it should merge 
these based on the uuid found in the info.plist file contained in the 
bundle.

Check ~/Library/Application Support/TextMate/Bundles -- if you do have 
a latex bundle there, control-click and select ?Show Package Contents?, 
there is then a info.plist which you can double-click to see the UUID. 
For the bundle distributed with TM it should be: 
46788DCE-6227-11D9-BFB1-000D93589AF6

If yours differs, then it's either a bug, or a bundle you created 
before this UUID system was introduced. You can change the UUID to the 
one above, then TM should merge the bundles the next time you run it 
(but I don't know if you want that).



From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 11 19:52:52 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:52:52 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Latex in Beta 5
In-Reply-To: <638b0c70720f9d54c453b003c93d1b77@mac.com>
References: 
	<638b0c70720f9d54c453b003c93d1b77@mac.com>
Message-ID: <3e42952047b962775c837574a574ad3b@macromates.com>

On Feb 11, 2005, at 14:44, Brad Miller wrote:

> Something is fishy, because Latex isn't even showing up in my bundle 
> list.
>
> Its there in /Applications/TextMate.app/...
>
> What is worse is that TextMate deleted the Latex.tmbundle directory 
> from my own ~/Library/Applications Support/TextMate/Bundles directory.
>
> I've tried twice now:
> quit TM,
> svn update my Bundles directory (Latex.tmbundle is there),
> restart TM (no latex in bundle list)
> Quit TM no more Latex.tmbundle in bundles directory.

If you delete a bundle in the bundle editor which is among one of the 
default bundles, TextMate will remember that you wanted that bundle 
deleted, so that when a new version of TextMate is released, the bundle 
will still be deleted.

I will change it so that this setting gets cleared if it finds the 
bundle in a local location later (rather than delete the local one, 
which was I scenario I didn't consider, sorry) -- I think this is what 
went wrong here (and that's why deleting your preferences solved the 
problem, since that's where it keeps the list of deleted bundles).



From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 11 19:55:52 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:55:52 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Option to disable automatic tab creation
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

On Feb 11, 2005, at 19:36, Edmundo Ortega wrote:

> We've talked about this before, but I don't think anything became of 
> it. Here's the idea:

http://lists.macromates.com/pipermail/textmate/2005-January/002640.html



From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 11 20:01:56 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:01:56 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] b5 unmountable?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <935fd259765f1888e8093ff85da1d6ed@macromates.com>

On Feb 11, 2005, at 18:52, Mr. Robert Ullrey wrote:

 > > I have tried downloading b5 twice. Once from the prompt inside tm 
b4 and once from the website and both times the dmg has reported that 
it was not mountable...
 > >
 > > never had a problem like this before so I am at a loss as to wether 
it is something on my end.

I had another person report the same by personal mail, but clearly a 
lot has also successfully downloaded beta 5, so I'd say try again :)

For the records:

% curl -O http://macromates.com/textmate/files/TextMate_1.1b5.dmg
% openssl dgst TextMate_1.1b5.dmg
MD5(TextMate_1.1b5.dmg)= 5f9ce9edf20fba1a877f58d0c5151d05
% hdiutil mount TextMate_1.1b5.dmg
Initializing...
Verifying...
Checksumming DDM...
...
Verification completed...
verified   CRC32 $F4FB38A8
Finishing...
...

 > I had this problem too but was able to get a mountable download from 
versiontracker.

I'm quite sure Version Tracker only links to the archive at 
macromates.com.

Perhaps the problem has to do with mime-types?



From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 11 20:03:13 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:03:13 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] More key binding fun
In-Reply-To: <6309e337f4b46823ab42f9cece23044b@mac.com>
References: <6309e337f4b46823ab42f9cece23044b@mac.com>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 11, 2005, at 16:26, Rich Barton wrote:

> Because of the Text -> Convert -> to Titlecase key binding (option+u), 
> I can no longer (easily) insert characters with umlauts (?, ?, etc.).
>
> Is there a workaround/clever solution/cunning plan to deal with this?

You can change the default key bindings (see Help / Key bindings).

Though I've been wanting to remove all the key bindings which contain 
option. Most likely I'll have it done for beta 6 ;)



From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 11 20:12:16 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:12:16 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Re: More key binding fun
In-Reply-To: 
References: <6309e337f4b46823ab42f9cece23044b@mac.com>
	
	
Message-ID: <6473721ea66307e86fcf7281ef5770b9@macromates.com>

On Feb 11, 2005, at 17:04, kumar mcmillan wrote:

> even though a little OT, I wanted to use this thread to put in another 
> *nudge* for you Allan to list any not-listed navigational key-commands 
> in the Navigation menu.

Control-tab is sort of a standard system key to leave edit controls 
that normally use tab for themselves. E.g. it also works in Mail.app's 
text editor to go to the To text field.

I'm reluctant to list these ?standard? keys, because there is a lot of 
them, and technically I can't know exactly which keys these system 
actions are actually bound to.

What I could do was to add a section to my help book about some of the 
more useful systme keys (e.g. also the ?switch window? key).

> [...] Is there a command to *just* center the carret on the screen?

Command-J. It's in Edit / Find and called ?Jump to Selection?.

> While I'm at it :) opt+down/up-arrow is excellent for hopping around 
> code blocks but it seems to be a bit buggy in my PHP classes.

That's because it's not intended for this :)

What it does is move a column up/down and is intended to be used when 
you want to do a column selection (together with shift).

For example if you have a text like:

    hest
    ged
    f?r

    r?v
    and
    kat

And your caret is somewhere in the word ?hest?, you can use option-down 
to move down to ?f?r?, option-down again to move to ?ko? etc.



From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 11 20:13:41 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:13:41 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] More key binding fun
In-Reply-To: 
References: <6309e337f4b46823ab42f9cece23044b@mac.com>
	
Message-ID: <35247043129daea3ade033b03e907ef9@macromates.com>

On Feb 11, 2005, at 18:50, Fred B. wrote:

> Here are some characters, needing those combos, that I use often:
>
> Option: { } $
>
> Option + Shift: [ ] \ |
>
> You'll agree that they can be useful when coding. ;)

I switched to US key map a few months ago, really really recommended 
(for coding) :)

But yes, I'll remove these option modifiers.



From cryo at cyanite.org  Fri Feb 11 20:28:44 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:28:44 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] A few problems with inserting text via a Command ???
In-Reply-To: 
References: <65b3ec03ed33e470e63ab18fe4adcda0@imediatec.co.uk>
	
Message-ID: <3f49deed28b69cd35caed7b3b0c1e75d@cyanite.org>

On 11. feb 2005, at 20:36, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> [...] with time zone set to GMT [...]

I believe using UTC would be more "correct", since GMT is a zone, and 
UTC is a different time standard ;)... but this is nit-picking of 
course, since they of course coincide.

-- 
Sune.



From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 11 20:38:58 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:38:58 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] A few problems with inserting text via a Command ???
In-Reply-To: <3f49deed28b69cd35caed7b3b0c1e75d@cyanite.org>
References: <65b3ec03ed33e470e63ab18fe4adcda0@imediatec.co.uk>
	
	<3f49deed28b69cd35caed7b3b0c1e75d@cyanite.org>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 11, 2005, at 21:28, Sune Foldager wrote:

>> [...] with time zone set to GMT [...]
> I believe using UTC would be more "correct", since GMT is a zone, and 
> UTC is a different time standard ;)... but this is nit-picking of 
> course, since they of course coincide.

Since the actual snippet is:

  `TZ=GMT date +%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%SZ`

It quite literally sets the time zone (TZ) to GMT! :)

But I see that TZ=UTC actually also works -- quite sure I discarded 
that as non-working when I did the snippet. Must have been the latest 
10.3.8 update ;)



From cryo at cyanite.org  Fri Feb 11 20:43:00 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:43:00 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] More key binding fun
In-Reply-To: <35247043129daea3ade033b03e907ef9@macromates.com>
References: <6309e337f4b46823ab42f9cece23044b@mac.com>
	
	<35247043129daea3ade033b03e907ef9@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <3c2b5ad4aee767d53cf12b78fc77b140@cyanite.org>

On 11. feb 2005, at 21:13, Allan Odgaard wrote:
> I switched to US key map a few months ago, really really recommended 
> (for coding) :)
I'm still quite opposed to that so...

> But yes, I'll remove these option modifiers.
Good thing :-).

-- 
Sune.



From victor.tolbert at gmail.com  Fri Feb 11 20:48:40 2005
From: victor.tolbert at gmail.com (Vick Nice)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:48:40 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Off topic - What key does this keyboard shortcut refer to?
Message-ID: <1bacee20050211124869ff31ab@mail.gmail.com>

Ok,

Possibly very obvious, ...but I can't figure out what key (screenshot
attached) this shortcut refers to.
I'm using a Powerbook.  Does everyone know this but me?

Thanks,

Vic
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From mgee at gwi.net  Fri Feb 11 20:51:14 2005
From: mgee at gwi.net (Michael Gregoire)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:51:14 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Off topic - What key does this keyboard shortcut refer to?
In-Reply-To: <1bacee20050211124869ff31ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1bacee20050211124869ff31ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

I think it's the volume knob :)

Seriously though, I'm not very sure. I'd definitely like to know this  
one as I'm also on a powerbook.

Peace
mGee

On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:48 PM, Vick Nice wrote:

> Ok,
>
> Possibly very obvious, ...but I can't figure out what key (screenshot
> attached) this shortcut refers to.
> I'm using a Powerbook.  Does everyone know this but me?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vic
> ______________________________________________________________ 
> ________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate



From patrick at lenz.sh  Fri Feb 11 20:54:05 2005
From: patrick at lenz.sh (Patrick Lenz)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:54:05 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Off topic - What key does this keyboard shortcut refer to?
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1bacee20050211124869ff31ab@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: 

On 11.02.2005, at 21:51, Michael Gregoire wrote:

> Seriously though, I'm not very sure. I'd definitely like to know this 
> one as I'm also on a powerbook.

Actually it's the Escape key.

-- 
Patrick Lenz (scoop)
patrick at lenz.sh

[ poocs.net - freshmeat.net - rsmodels.net - topmedia.de - 
wiesbadeneins.de ]



From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 11 20:54:31 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:54:31 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Off topic - What key does this keyboard shortcut refer to?
In-Reply-To: <1bacee20050211124869ff31ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1bacee20050211124869ff31ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <69f3590141f5a099c1385769039e510d@macromates.com>

On Feb 11, 2005, at 21:48, Vick Nice wrote:

> Possibly very obvious, ...but I can't figure out what key (screenshot
> attached) this shortcut refers to.

It's escape.

> I'm using a Powerbook.  Does everyone know this but me?

No, I get the question a lot! :)



From cryo at cyanite.org  Fri Feb 11 20:56:01 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:56:01 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Off topic - What key does this keyboard shortcut refer to?
In-Reply-To: <69f3590141f5a099c1385769039e510d@macromates.com>
References: <1bacee20050211124869ff31ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<69f3590141f5a099c1385769039e510d@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <135f7f075a042e468fd8f783cf20d8d5@cyanite.org>

On 11. feb 2005, at 21:54, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 11, 2005, at 21:48, Vick Nice wrote:
>
>> Possibly very obvious, ...but I can't figure out what key (screenshot
>> attached) this shortcut refers to.
>
> It's escape.
>
>> I'm using a Powerbook.  Does everyone know this but me?
>
> No, I get the question a lot! :)

Yeah, it's not really too obvious, and it's not like the symbol is put 
on the key either.

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From victor.tolbert at gmail.com  Fri Feb 11 20:58:33 2005
From: victor.tolbert at gmail.com (Vick Nice)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:58:33 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Off topic - What key does this keyboard shortcut refer to?
In-Reply-To: <135f7f075a042e468fd8f783cf20d8d5@cyanite.org>
References: <1bacee20050211124869ff31ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<69f3590141f5a099c1385769039e510d@macromates.com>
	<135f7f075a042e468fd8f783cf20d8d5@cyanite.org>
Message-ID: <1bacee2005021112585b85a153@mail.gmail.com>

>
> It's escape.
>

Thanks!


From extra at newcode.se  Fri Feb 11 21:00:43 2005
From: extra at newcode.se (Carl-Johan Kihlbom)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:00:43 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Off topic - What key does this keyboard shortcut refer to?
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1bacee20050211124869ff31ab@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: 

On Feb 11, 2005, at 21:51, Michael Gregoire wrote:
> On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:48 PM, Vick Nice wrote:
>
>> Ok,
>>
>> Possibly very obvious, ...but I can't figure out what key (screenshot
>> attached) this shortcut refers to.
>> I'm using a Powerbook.  Does everyone know this but me?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Vic
>>
> I think it's the volume knob :)
>
> Seriously though, I'm not very sure. I'd definitely like to know this 
> one as I'm also on a powerbook.
>
> Peace
> mGee

I think that's the Escape key.

/ CJ



From extra at newcode.se  Fri Feb 11 21:02:06 2005
From: extra at newcode.se (Carl-Johan Kihlbom)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:02:06 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Off topic - What key does this keyboard shortcut refer to?
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1bacee20050211124869ff31ab@mail.gmail.com>
	
	
Message-ID: <362011df9b332eb8310a82c502852466@newcode.se>

On Feb 11, 2005, at 22:00, Carl-Johan Kihlbom wrote:

> On Feb 11, 2005, at 21:51, Michael Gregoire wrote:
>> On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:48 PM, Vick Nice wrote:
>>
>>> Ok,
>>>
>>> Possibly very obvious, ...but I can't figure out what key (screenshot
>>> attached) this shortcut refers to.
>>> I'm using a Powerbook.  Does everyone know this but me?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Vic
>>>
>> I think it's the volume knob :)
>>
>> Seriously though, I'm not very sure. I'd definitely like to know this 
>> one as I'm also on a powerbook.
>>
>> Peace
>> mGee
>
> I think that's the Escape key.
>
> / CJ

Guess I was late to that party. Sorry about that :-)

/ CJ



From bonelake at mac.com  Fri Feb 11 21:23:01 2005
From: bonelake at mac.com (Brad Miller)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:23:01 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Latex in Beta 5
In-Reply-To: <3e42952047b962775c837574a574ad3b@macromates.com>
References: 
	<638b0c70720f9d54c453b003c93d1b77@mac.com>
	<3e42952047b962775c837574a574ad3b@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <6879e6af173621175421d88a47c7b3bf@mac.com>

The funny thing is I don't remember deleting the LaTeX bundle, and I 
was just using it yesterday.   Also,  since I've been working on the 
Latex.tmbundle I can't imagine why I would want to.  Unless enforcement 
of the deletion is something new in b5.  I do remember that there was a 
time when I had a bundle called LaTex and another called Latex.  This 
dates back to some of the very first versions of the Latex bundle that 
I downloaded from the wiki (last november probably).

I remember that I synchronized them and deleted one using the bundle 
editor.

The funny thing is that the name that gets displayed for the bundle 
Latex.tmbundle is LaTeX, so there is a slight mismatch between the 
actual bundle name and the name that gets displayed.  However the old 
bundle that I deleted was actually LaTex.tmbundle and its display name 
was "Latex"  Its not really important now that the old bundle is long 
gone.

Brad


On Feb 11, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 11, 2005, at 14:44, Brad Miller wrote:
>
>> Something is fishy, because Latex isn't even showing up in my bundle 
>> list.
>>
>> Its there in /Applications/TextMate.app/...
>>
>> What is worse is that TextMate deleted the Latex.tmbundle directory 
>> from my own ~/Library/Applications Support/TextMate/Bundles 
>> directory.
>>
>> I've tried twice now:
>> quit TM,
>> svn update my Bundles directory (Latex.tmbundle is there),
>> restart TM (no latex in bundle list)
>> Quit TM no more Latex.tmbundle in bundles directory.
>
> If you delete a bundle in the bundle editor which is among one of the 
> default bundles, TextMate will remember that you wanted that bundle 
> deleted, so that when a new version of TextMate is released, the 
> bundle will still be deleted.
>
> I will change it so that this setting gets cleared if it finds the 
> bundle in a local location later (rather than delete the local one, 
> which was I scenario I didn't consider, sorry) -- I think this is what 
> went wrong here (and that's why deleting your preferences solved the 
> problem, since that's where it keeps the list of deleted bundles).
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>
Brad Miller, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor, Computer Science
Luther College
http://www.cs.luther.edu/~bmiller



From ecurtis at rgbdesignstudio.com  Fri Feb 11 21:51:36 2005
From: ecurtis at rgbdesignstudio.com (Eric Curtis)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:51:36 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] b5 unmountable?
In-Reply-To: <935fd259765f1888e8093ff85da1d6ed@macromates.com>
References: 
	<935fd259765f1888e8093ff85da1d6ed@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <2d0a5408c440764ceaa0a5d57bac443b@rgbdesignstudio.com>

> % curl -O http://macromates.com/textmate/files/TextMate_1.1b5.dmg

Well I tried safari a few more times then switched to firefox and as a 
last effort I tried it in the terminal with the line above. None of 
them worked and curl gave this response:

curl: (18) transfer closed with 1438015 bytes remaining to read

It seems like your host might be cutting out accidentally?

Weird,

Eric



From mgee at gwi.net  Fri Feb 11 21:56:47 2005
From: mgee at gwi.net (Michael Gregoire)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:56:47 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] b5 unmountable?
In-Reply-To: <2d0a5408c440764ceaa0a5d57bac443b@rgbdesignstudio.com>
References: 
	<935fd259765f1888e8093ff85da1d6ed@macromates.com>
	<2d0a5408c440764ceaa0a5d57bac443b@rgbdesignstudio.com>
Message-ID: 

I tested it, and it downloaded and mounted fine for me. Perhaps you 
updated to the latest OS X update? Maybe there's a conflict?



On Feb 11, 2005, at 4:51 PM, Eric Curtis wrote:

>> % curl -O http://macromates.com/textmate/files/TextMate_1.1b5.dmg
>
> Well I tried safari a few more times then switched to firefox and as a 
> last effort I tried it in the terminal with the line above. None of 
> them worked and curl gave this response:
>
> curl: (18) transfer closed with 1438015 bytes remaining to read
>
> It seems like your host might be cutting out accidentally?
>
> Weird,
>
> Eric
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>



From cryo at cyanite.org  Fri Feb 11 22:05:38 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 23:05:38 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] b5 unmountable?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<935fd259765f1888e8093ff85da1d6ed@macromates.com>
	<2d0a5408c440764ceaa0a5d57bac443b@rgbdesignstudio.com>
	
Message-ID: <5ae11ba76528a603fc8b37821de82852@cyanite.org>

On 11. feb 2005, at 22:56, Michael Gregoire wrote:

> I tested it, and it downloaded and mounted fine for me. Perhaps you 
> updated to the latest OS X update? Maybe there's a conflict?

I have the latest and it all worked for me. I guess it's a server 
problem.

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 11 22:06:02 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 23:06:02 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] b5 unmountable?
In-Reply-To: <2d0a5408c440764ceaa0a5d57bac443b@rgbdesignstudio.com>
References: 
	<935fd259765f1888e8093ff85da1d6ed@macromates.com>
	<2d0a5408c440764ceaa0a5d57bac443b@rgbdesignstudio.com>
Message-ID: <71ebb102a9f892d848364831c31c6025@macromates.com>

On Feb 11, 2005, at 22:51, Eric Curtis wrote:

> curl: (18) transfer closed with 1438015 bytes remaining to read

You can use curl again with option ?-C -? to resume the download.

> It seems like your host might be cutting out accidentally?

I just got it myself with 155 KB/s (and I'm an ocean away from my host) 
so I think the problem is not with the host, but somewhere between my 
host and your computer.

I've had ~600 downloads since this morning and only heard 3 people 
having problems, so I do think the host is running fine :)

But here's a (rather crappy) mirror: 
http://www.top-house.dk/~aae0030/TextMate_1.1b5.dmg



From fatal at starflam.com  Fri Feb 11 22:41:13 2005
From: fatal at starflam.com (fatal)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 23:41:13 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] New TM Doc in Finder Contextal Menu. Any ideas ??
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
Message-ID: <8f30ccca876a44e4a023bb3c435dabbc@starflam.com>


On 11 f?vr. 05, at 20:16, Eric Hsu wrote:
>
> OnMyCommandCM (free at http://www.abracode.com/free/cmworkshop/) lets 
> you write your own CMs using shell scripts. I just downloaded it and 
> have quickly hacked out two contextual menu commands:
>
> Edit in TM (pop it up on a file)
> Edit New File Here in TM (pop it up on a directory; if you pick a 
> file, it puts a new file in the same directory)
>
> To install:
> 1. Download and install OMC.
> 2. Make sure you have the 1.1b5 tm CLI command.
> 3. Download OnMyCommandCMs from 
> http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk/Tools/CM/
> 4. Import the commands using the OMC_Edit tool in the OMC folder.
> 5. It expects ~/bin/tm to be the binary. If yours is elsewhere, use 
> OMC_Edit to change the paths.
>
> I hope that helps.
>
> best, Eric
>
>

You beat me to it Eric,

I made the "new file" command a bit differently.

The command opens a dialog asking for a name for the new file and I 
used "open -a" instead of "tm" CLI command ".
IMO, the advantage is that the Syntax highlight is selected according 
to the extension you gave to the file name.
Plus, with the tm CLI, the file doesn't "exists" until you save it and 
you have to "Saves as" to give it a proper name.

And I made it in Ruby cause I'm lazy. ;)
(Maybe Eric could make it in shell?)

So, follow the Eric's  recommandations to install and modify.

Change the Ruby and TextMate path in OMCEdit if you have to.

I don't have write access to the repository, so here is the command:  
http://osxgeek.com/tm/TM-OMC.zip
Included is the "Edit in TM" command with "open -a" too.


BTW, I recommend OMC to everyone, you can do a lot of stuff with it. I 
use it all the time.

Hope this helps.

--
Fred 


From roberto+textmate at keltia.freenix.fr  Fri Feb 11 22:57:45 2005
From: roberto+textmate at keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 23:57:45 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] More key binding fun
In-Reply-To: <35247043129daea3ade033b03e907ef9@macromates.com>
References: <6309e337f4b46823ab42f9cece23044b@mac.com>
	
	<35247043129daea3ade033b03e907ef9@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <20050211225745.GB4984@tara.freenix.org>

According to Allan Odgaard:
> I switched to US key map a few months ago, really really recommended 
> (for coding) :)

I do more than coding and you'll pry my french AZERTY keyboard from my dead
cold fingers... :-)

And if you are on a US keyboard, then Option becomes even more important
because even very common diacritics need it (for French anyway).

> But yes, I'll remove these option modifiers.

Thanks.
-- 
Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto at keltia.freenix.fr
Darwin snuadh.freenix.org Kernel Version 7.8.0: Wed Dec 22 14:26:17 PST 2004


From roberto+textmate at keltia.freenix.fr  Fri Feb 11 23:01:17 2005
From: roberto+textmate at keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:01:17 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] b5 unmountable?
In-Reply-To: <71ebb102a9f892d848364831c31c6025@macromates.com>
References: 
	<935fd259765f1888e8093ff85da1d6ed@macromates.com>
	<2d0a5408c440764ceaa0a5d57bac443b@rgbdesignstudio.com>
	<71ebb102a9f892d848364831c31c6025@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <20050211230117.GC4984@tara.freenix.org>

According to Allan Odgaard:
> But here's a (rather crappy) mirror: 
> http://www.top-house.dk/~aae0030/TextMate_1.1b5.dmg

If you need mirrors, please just ask.  I'm sure I can coax some of the
hosts behind *.fr.freebsd.org to host a few more files... :-)
-- 
Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto at keltia.freenix.fr
Darwin snuadh.freenix.org Kernel Version 7.8.0: Wed Dec 22 14:26:17 PST 2004


From experiments at verizon.net  Fri Feb 11 23:24:07 2005
From: experiments at verizon.net (Experiments)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:24:07 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Newbie folding property list q's
Message-ID: 

Just downloaded TextMate today after searching high and low for a text 
editor for OS X that has folding.  I didn't realize it was a such a 
sought-after but generally unavailable feature.  I've been hand-coding 
in Dreamweaver, which i like for its auto-complete and hints, but 
beyond that I haven't really had much luck marrying HTML and PHP in its 
framework.

Anyway, to my questions, and thanks for bearing with me as I explore 
Text Mate, which looks great.  If it's as good as I think it's going to 
be, I'll gladly pony up cash for TM.

As far as I can tell, Text Mate won't "remember" code blocks that 
you've marked for folding unless you change something in the plist 
files with the respective syntax bundles.  Yes?  (I was surprised that 
I could fold up lots of code, save the file, and then lose all of my 
foldings when I reoped the file.  At first I thought this was because I 
hadn't put the file into a project and saved the whole project.)

Anyway, I basically have no idea what I'm doing.  Is there some easy 
way of specifying the the opening and closing expressions for folding?  
Does this require that you have a good understanding of regular 
expressions?

I started out viewing my code with HTML (PHP) syntax, which 
automatically recognizes some tag structures.  When I switched to PHP 
syntax, which I like better, it doesn't seem to recognize anything at 
all.  How does one add or modify the plist information so that TM will 
"remember" that I folded blocks such as:



or even


    
  	...

    

?

Thanks for any help you can provide.  Sorry to be so verbose.

Chas



From cryo at cyanite.org  Fri Feb 11 23:30:27 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:30:27 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Newbie folding property list q's
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

On 12. feb 2005, at 0:24, Experiments wrote:

> As far as I can tell, Text Mate won't "remember" code blocks that 
> you've marked for folding unless you change something in the plist 
> files with the respective syntax bundles.  Yes?  (I was surprised that 
> I could fold up lots of code, save the file, and then lose all of my 
> foldings when I reoped the file.  At first I thought this was because 
> I hadn't put the file into a project and saved the whole project.)

In general, state is not remembered in TM. This has also been discussed 
with respect to bookmarks (which aren't saved either). When the project 
system is slightly revised, I think this will be taken into account, 
but I am not sure decisions are made on it so far.

> Anyway, I basically have no idea what I'm doing.  Is there some easy 
> way of specifying the the opening and closing expressions for folding? 
>  Does this require that you have a good understanding of regular 
> expressions?

Yes, those are specified for each language, but indentation level also 
plays in. I'll have to pass on answering this one more detailed, as I 
haven't messed with it too much myself :-/.

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From jonraphaelson at gmail.com  Sat Feb 12 00:01:26 2005
From: jonraphaelson at gmail.com (Jon Raphaelson)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:01:26 -0700
Subject: [TxMt] Folding Question
Message-ID: <30724b608a2c4c42129ad8e306ca7476@colorado.edu>

I don't know if this has been aswered or not, but is it possible to set 
multiple folding starts and stops in a syntax file? Like can I edit the 
Java syntax to fold { } *and* /** */?

Jonathan Raphaelson				
University of Colorado at Boulder			
--

Home: 303-469-3442
Cell: 720-937-4372

jonathan.raphaelson at colorado.edu
jonraphaelson at gmail.com



From fredb7 at starflam.com  Sat Feb 12 00:18:35 2005
From: fredb7 at starflam.com (Fred B.)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 01:18:35 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] More key binding fun
In-Reply-To: <35247043129daea3ade033b03e907ef9@macromates.com>
References: <6309e337f4b46823ab42f9cece23044b@mac.com>
	
	<35247043129daea3ade033b03e907ef9@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <85f03eea8e0b32624279445c0124a155@starflam.com>


On 11 f?vr. 05, at 21:13, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> I switched to US key map a few months ago, really really recommended 
> (for coding) :)
>
>

Maybe it's easier  with other languages but using a US KB to write 
french is really hard, as there is not direct access to "??????", etc.
Plus I'm used to AZERTY since 1984. A nit long to change now ...

And even if I used an US KB, I would need Option even more, for all the 
accents. ;)

> But yes, I'll remove these option modifiers.
>
Thanks.



From simon.textmate.list at helvector.org  Sat Feb 12 00:51:10 2005
From: simon.textmate.list at helvector.org (Simon Gregory)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:51:10 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Folding Question
In-Reply-To: <30724b608a2c4c42129ad8e306ca7476@colorado.edu>
References: <30724b608a2c4c42129ad8e306ca7476@colorado.edu>
Message-ID: <40afec4150e5760d41977e1cfcf70ba0@helvector.org>

> I don't know if this has been aswered or not, but is it possible to  
> set multiple folding starts and stops in a syntax file? Like can I  
> edit the Java syntax to fold { } *and* /** */?

Not that I know a lot about regular expressions but taking a look in  
~/Library/Application  
Support/TextMate/Bundles/XML.tmbundle/Syntaxes/XML.plist I found:

foldingStartMarker
^\s*(<[^!?/]+(?!.+?/>)|(<!--(?!.*?-->))\s*$)
foldingStopMarker
(</[^?]+?>|/>|-->)\s*$

Although things are in a different format when looking in  
/Applications/TextMate.app/Contents/SharedSupport/Bundles/ 
ActionScript.tmbundle/Syntaxes/ActionScript.plist they're still there:

foldingStartMarker = "(/\\*\\*|\\{\\s*$)";
foldingStopMarker = "(\\*\\*/|^\\s*\\})";

Which would suggest there's a way to add them as there's pipes in there  
which I'd imagine act as logical OR's.

Simon



From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Sat Feb 12 01:46:38 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:46:38 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] New TM Doc in Finder Contextal Menu. Any ideas ??
In-Reply-To: <8f30ccca876a44e4a023bb3c435dabbc@starflam.com>
References: 
	
	<8f30ccca876a44e4a023bb3c435dabbc@starflam.com>
Message-ID: 

At 11:41 PM +0100 2/11/05, fatal wrote:
>You beat me to it Eric,

Well, heck if I'd known you were working on it, I wouldn't have 
bothered! :)  (I'm not supposed to be working on this non-work kind 
of stuff...)  Maybe next time we should write to the list and reserve 
a request. I personally would rather other people write these gadgets 
for me!

(Hey, Chris Thomas, weren't you going to write an Icon Chooser? Don't 
make me do it...)

There are a few more CMs that I was thinking should be written. 
Basically all the ones aimed at BBEdit at the OMC site could be 
altered for TM.  Also, a simple 'Edit this Selected Text in TM'. I 
found myself in Equation Service trying to write some LaTeX and 
missing a decent editor... but Equation Service doesn't (wait for it) 
support Services. Oh well.  I also had this visionary idea of having 
a 'Edit Filenames in TM' CM. I often have annoying rename tasks (like 
chop off a leading word and add an extension) that would take 3 
seconds in TM but forever either in the Finder or an annoying amount 
of time getting a shell script loop right.  But if I could just 
select a bunch of files, send it to TM and edit them there... ahhh. 
It wasn't obvious to me how to deal with cases where someone deleted 
a lines, etc. I told you it was visionary.

>The command opens a dialog asking for a name for the new file and I 
>used "open -a" instead of "tm" CLI command ". IMO, the advantage is 
>that the Syntax highlight is selected according to the extension you 
>gave to the file name. Plus, with the tm CLI, the file doesn't 
>"exists" until you save it and you have to "Saves as" to give it a 
>proper name.

I thought that was a feature of my version. :)  Seriously, I didn't 
want to deal with name collisions etc etc.  But maybe if it turns out 
people want that feature, I'll put your version in the svn 
repository...

>And I made it in Ruby cause I'm lazy. ;)
>(Maybe Eric could make it in shell?)

How do you do it in Ruby? Do you have OMC just call the Ruby script, 
or can it support Ruby inline?

best, Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From cryo at cyanite.org  Sat Feb 12 01:47:30 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 02:47:30 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] More key binding fun
In-Reply-To: <85f03eea8e0b32624279445c0124a155@starflam.com>
References: <6309e337f4b46823ab42f9cece23044b@mac.com>
	
	<35247043129daea3ade033b03e907ef9@macromates.com>
	<85f03eea8e0b32624279445c0124a155@starflam.com>
Message-ID: <22b53fddf7800603e94bc535a7e32ee9@cyanite.org>

On 12. feb 2005, at 1:18, Fred B. wrote:

> On 11 f?vr. 05, at 21:13, Allan Odgaard wrote:
>> I switched to US key map a few months ago, really really recommended 
>> (for coding) :)
>
> Maybe it's easier  with other languages but using a US KB to write 
> french is really hard, as there is not direct access to "??????", etc.
> Plus I'm used to AZERTY since 1984. A nit long to change now ...

Yeah, Danish vs. US doesn't mess with the letters, i.e. both are 
QWERTY.. I can see it's a bigger problem with french, but I don't like 
the US map too much either :-p.

-- 
Sune    ::    http://cyanite.org/
     "And now there is merely silence, silence,
         silence, saying all we did not know."



From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Sat Feb 12 03:12:49 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:12:49 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] HTML output ideas
Message-ID: 

Boy, you give us a little HTML and some of us want more. Here are two 
ideas for the HTML Output.  Version 3.0? anyway, here they are...

1. Let txmt:// handle commands/snippets/etc and send them to existing 
windows.  I don't know how hard that would be.

2. Somehow let commands process the results of an HTML form.  Not 
100% sure how this could work, but I'm imagining being able to set 
form action=txmt://...

The upshot of #1 is that you would have a mini-Dashboard in TM. 
People could hack out command palettes of all kinds.  #2 would add 
even more flexibility.

These brainstorms are the result of me wanting floating command 
palettes and trying to think of a good interface for my 'Edit 
Filenames in TM' contextual menu...

- Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From fredb7 at starflam.com  Sat Feb 12 03:53:13 2005
From: fredb7 at starflam.com (Fred B.)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 04:53:13 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] New TM Doc in Finder Contextal Menu. Any ideas ??
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
	<8f30ccca876a44e4a023bb3c435dabbc@starflam.com>
	
Message-ID: <6753c572c89c1a6111c5ce2efccab79d@starflam.com>


On 12 f?vr. 05, at 02:46, Eric Hsu wrote:

> At 11:41 PM +0100 2/11/05, fatal wrote:
>> You beat me to it Eric,
>
> Well, heck if I'd known you were working on it, I wouldn't have 
> bothered! :)  (I'm not supposed to be working on this non-work kind of 
> stuff...)  Maybe next time we should write to the list and reserve a 
> request. I personally would rather other people write these gadgets 
> for me!

Well, in fact, I was not supposed to play with this neither.
I'm far from being a shell script guru, but if I can help...

>
> (Hey, Chris Thomas, weren't you going to write an Icon Chooser? Don't 
> make me do it...)
>
> There are a few more CMs that I was thinking should be written. 
> Basically all the ones aimed at BBEdit at the OMC site could be 
> altered for TM.  Also, a simple 'Edit this Selected Text in TM'. I 
> found myself in Equation Service trying to write some LaTeX and 
> missing a decent editor... but Equation Service doesn't (wait for it) 
> support Services. Oh well.  I also had this visionary idea of having a 
> 'Edit Filenames in TM' CM. I often have annoying rename tasks (like 
> chop off a leading word and add an extension) that would take 3 
> seconds in TM but forever either in the Finder or an annoying amount 
> of time getting a shell script loop right.  But if I could just select 
> a bunch of files, send it to TM and edit them there... ahhh. It wasn't 
> obvious to me how to deal with cases where someone deleted a lines, 
> etc. I told you it was visionary.

I'll take a look at the command aimed at BBEdit.
'Edit Filenames in TM'  can be more tricky, I guess.

>
>> The command opens a dialog asking for a name for the new file and I 
>> used "open -a" instead of "tm" CLI command ". IMO, the advantage is 
>> that the Syntax highlight is selected according to the extension you 
>> gave to the file name. Plus, with the tm CLI, the file doesn't 
>> "exists" until you save it and you have to "Saves as" to give it a 
>> proper name.
>
> I thought that was a feature of my version. :)  Seriously, I didn't 
> want to deal with name collisions etc etc.  But maybe if it turns out 
> people want that feature, I'll put your version in the svn 
> repository...

I didn't mean my version was better or anything, its just the way I 
wanted it.
My script is really basic, but there's no real danger with name 
collisions, except changing the file's date.
It just "touch" then "open" the file. (I'll had a comment about the 
date change in case of filenames already in use.)
Please, tell me if you see other caveats in this approach.

>> And I made it in Ruby cause I'm lazy. ;)
>> (Maybe Eric could make it in shell?)
>
> How do you do it in Ruby? Do you have OMC just call the Ruby script, 
> or can it support Ruby inline?
>
As of v. 1.6.1 OnMyCommand has "Full support for shell scripts. Finally 
you can use perl, python or other scripting language directly in your 
command."

You just have to write the proper shebang line before the script, then:

"This execution mode creates a temporary script file:
  /tmp/OMC/OMC_temp_script_XXX
  and then "exec /tmp/OMC/OMC_temp_script_XXX" is called."

Much easier when you have to share the command with others.

--
Fred

P.S:I realize I didn't use my usual email address in my previous 
message this thread, sorry.
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From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Sat Feb 12 05:59:30 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:59:30 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] services in b5?
Message-ID: 

Hi folks,

Is it me or is the Edit in Textmate service broken in b5? Text acts 
like it gets cut and immediately pasted.

- Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From allan at macromates.com  Sat Feb 12 08:30:16 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:30:16 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] services in b5?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <735f7552efd350e415f2d24789350eed@macromates.com>

On Feb 12, 2005, at 6:59, Eric Hsu wrote:

> Is it me or is the Edit in Textmate service broken in b5? Text acts 
> like it gets cut and immediately pasted.

It works for me.



From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Sat Feb 12 08:47:22 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:47:22 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] services in b5?
In-Reply-To: <735f7552efd350e415f2d24789350eed@macromates.com>
References: 
	<735f7552efd350e415f2d24789350eed@macromates.com>
Message-ID: 

At 9:30 AM +0100 2/12/05, Allan Odgaard wrote:
>>Is it me or is the Edit in Textmate service broken in b5? Text acts 
>>like it gets cut and immediately pasted.
>
>It works for me.

Hmm.  I got it working again. Something got confused in the service 
(and the command line) with different versions of TM floating around. 
I trashed and deleted all other previous versions and that seems to 
have done it.

- Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From brycethornton at gmail.com  Sat Feb 12 16:55:36 2005
From: brycethornton at gmail.com (Bryce Thornton)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:55:36 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] b5 unmountable?
In-Reply-To: <20050211230117.GC4984@tara.freenix.org>
References: 
	<935fd259765f1888e8093ff85da1d6ed@macromates.com>
	<2d0a5408c440764ceaa0a5d57bac443b@rgbdesignstudio.com>
	<71ebb102a9f892d848364831c31c6025@macromates.com>
	<20050211230117.GC4984@tara.freenix.org>
Message-ID: 

I too could not mount the b5 from macromates.com.  The mirror worked
fine though.  It did appear that the download from macromates started
well, got about halfway done, then said it was finished.  It was only
580 KB on my disk after it completed.


On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:01:17 +0100, Ollivier Robert
 wrote:
> According to Allan Odgaard:
> > But here's a (rather crappy) mirror:
> > http://www.top-house.dk/~aae0030/TextMate_1.1b5.dmg
> 
> If you need mirrors, please just ask.  I'm sure I can coax some of the
> hosts behind *.fr.freebsd.org to host a few more files... :-)
> --
> Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto at keltia.freenix.fr
> Darwin snuadh.freenix.org Kernel Version 7.8.0: Wed Dec 22 14:26:17 PST 2004
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>


From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Sat Feb 12 18:23:13 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:23:13 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] New TM Doc in Finder Contextal Menu. Any ideas ??
In-Reply-To: <6753c572c89c1a6111c5ce2efccab79d@starflam.com>
References: 
	
	<8f30ccca876a44e4a023bb3c435dabbc@starflam.com>
	
	<6753c572c89c1a6111c5ce2efccab79d@starflam.com>
Message-ID: 

At 4:53 AM +0100 2/12/05, Fred B. wrote:
>I didn't mean my version was better or anything, its just the way I wanted it.

Cool, I didn't take it that way. There Are Many Ways To Do It.   :)

>My script is really basic, but there's no real danger with name 
>collisions, except changing the file's date.
>It just "touch" then "open" the file. (I'll had a comment about the 
>date change in case of filenames already in use.)
>Please, tell me if you see other caveats in this approach.

I wasn't the one who requested the CM, but I was guessing that one 
always would either want to open an existing file (so you'd click on 
it) or to open a fresh new one. In this second case, one would not 
want to see the contents of a file you accidentally named.

best wishes, Eric

-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From ben at incomumdesign.com  Sat Feb 12 18:51:25 2005
From: ben at incomumdesign.com (Ben Jackson)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:51:25 -0200
Subject: [TxMt] How to switch icon sets?
Message-ID: <420E502D.3080901@incomumdesign.com>

How do you substitute one set of TM icons with another? All I've ever 
done is copy-paste from the get info window, but this is on a per-file 
basis.

-- 
Ben Jackson
Diretor de Desenvolvimento
INCOMUM Design & Conceito

+55 (21) 9127-2819
ben at incomumdesign.com
http://www.incomumdesign.com



From fredb7 at starflam.com  Sat Feb 12 22:48:38 2005
From: fredb7 at starflam.com (Fred B.)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 23:48:38 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] How to switch icon sets?
In-Reply-To: <420E502D.3080901@incomumdesign.com>
References: <420E502D.3080901@incomumdesign.com>
Message-ID: <0d69e88cb8ce60e76949b089e4a26aa7@starflam.com>

On 12 f?vr. 05, at 19:51, Ben Jackson wrote:

> How do you substitute one set of TM icons with another? All I've ever 
> done is copy-paste from the get info window, but this is on a per-file 
> basis.
>

You have to replace them in TextMate.app/content/ressources

BTW, I'd like to know if we can add new icons for other file type 
(Ruby, Shell,etc.)
Can we hack it ourselves or do you need to do it yourself, Allan?

--
Fred


From allan at macromates.com  Sat Feb 12 23:10:49 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 00:10:49 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] How to switch icon sets?
In-Reply-To: <0d69e88cb8ce60e76949b089e4a26aa7@starflam.com>
References: <420E502D.3080901@incomumdesign.com>
	<0d69e88cb8ce60e76949b089e4a26aa7@starflam.com>
Message-ID: <5db1f32dbff83b571a553a539b633a0c@macromates.com>

On Feb 12, 2005, at 23:48, Fred B. wrote:

> BTW, I'd like to know if we can add new icons for other file type 
> (Ruby, Shell,etc.)
> Can we hack it ourselves or do you need to do it yourself, Allan?

You can hack it yourself -- you need to modify the Info.plist in 
TextMate.app/Contents to have a new entry for the file type to which 
you want to add an icon (and you should remove that file type from the 
catch-all entry) and place the icon in TextMate.app/Contents/Resources.

The info.plist might look more readable if you (from Terminal.app) do:
  pl < Info.plist > New_Info.plist

But of course, if you send me something (nice) I can include it with 
next beta.



From jonathon at delacour.net  Mon Feb 14 10:19:49 2005
From: jonathon at delacour.net (Jonathon Delacour)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:19:49 +1100
Subject: [TxMt] HumaneText.service
Message-ID: <20050214211949.553545.1a7fc0a7@delacour.net>

Those who use TextMate together with John Gruber's Markdown to write 
for the web might be interested in HumaneText.service, which I 
discovered via Merlin Mann's 43 Folders site.

HumaneText is an easy-to-use OS X service that, by combining Markdown, 
SmartyPants, and html2text, enables you to convert Markdown-formatted 
text to XHTML and vice versa.

You can download HumaneText Service No. 4 here:
http://gu.st/proj/HumaneText.service/

I've found that TextMate combined with Markdown is a marvellous web 
writing environment and HumaneText makes it nearly perfect.

Jonathon

43 Folders: http://www.43folders.com/2005/02/in_praise_of_ma.html
Markdown: http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/
SmartyPants: http://daringfireball.net/projects/smartypants/
html2text: http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/html2text/


From ben at incomumdesign.com  Mon Feb 14 15:51:14 2005
From: ben at incomumdesign.com (Ben Jackson)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:51:14 -0200
Subject: [TxMt] [Feature request] Code auto-indenting
Message-ID: <4210C8F2.8010609@incomumdesign.com>

Don't know if this is a feature yet (?), I haven't found anything like 
it in the docs or in the menus...

In jEdit I used a feature all the time that auto-indented my code blocks 
by pressng TAB. Is this available already, and if not, any plans for 
future releases?

-- 
Ben Jackson
Diretor de Desenvolvimento
INCOMUM Design & Conceito

+55 (21) 9127-2819
ben at incomumdesign.com
http://www.incomumdesign.com



From tom at tomster.org  Mon Feb 14 15:58:29 2005
From: tom at tomster.org (Tom Lazar)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:58:29 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] [Feature request] Code auto-indenting
In-Reply-To: <4210C8F2.8010609@incomumdesign.com>
References: <4210C8F2.8010609@incomumdesign.com>
Message-ID: <0a308364033d0002c23927fb1a068afc@tomster.org>

On 14.02.2005, at 16:51, Ben Jackson wrote:

> Don't know if this is a feature yet (?), I haven't found anything like 
> it in the docs or in the menus...
>
> In jEdit I used a feature all the time that auto-indented my code 
> blocks by pressng TAB. Is this available already, and if not, any 
> plans for future releases?

i second this!

and related to this i'd like to see a function 'indent according to 
current mode' which would be extremely useful when editing code created 
by someone else/with another tool.

just my $0.02,

best regards,

tom
--
Tom Lazar, http://tomster.org



From james at grayproductions.net  Mon Feb 14 18:11:03 2005
From: james at grayproductions.net (James Edward Gray II)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:11:03 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Exploring Snippets
Message-ID: <099ef2c318830df0f1d707af48ea2122@grayproductions.net>

I'm really digging into snippets (and loving them, by the way).  One 
question though, I see $0s used in places and I'm not sure what it 
does.  Could someone explain it to me?  Thanks.

James Edward Gray II



From jarkko at jlaine.net  Mon Feb 14 18:16:50 2005
From: jarkko at jlaine.net (Jarkko Laine)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:16:50 +0200
Subject: [TxMt] Exploring Snippets
In-Reply-To: <099ef2c318830df0f1d707af48ea2122@grayproductions.net>
References: <099ef2c318830df0f1d707af48ea2122@grayproductions.net>
Message-ID: <59de9abf5e73b70b47f00cf3da81f240@jlaine.net>

On 14.2.2005, at 20:11, James Edward Gray II wrote:

> I'm really digging into snippets (and loving them, by the way).  One 
> question though, I see $0s used in places and I'm not sure what it 
> does.  Could someone explain it to me?  Thanks.

$0 is the place where the cursor is placed after the snippet has been 
run.

//jarkko

--
Jarkko Laine
http://jlaine.net
http://odesign.fi
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From todd at slack.net  Mon Feb 14 18:45:22 2005
From: todd at slack.net (Todd Grimason)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:45:22 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] [Feature request] Code auto-indenting
In-Reply-To: <4210C8F2.8010609@incomumdesign.com>
References: <4210C8F2.8010609@incomumdesign.com>
Message-ID: <20050214184522.GC2283@detroit.slack.net>

* Ben Jackson  [2005-02-14 10:55]:> 
> In jEdit I used a feature all the time that auto-indented my code blocks 
> by pressng TAB. Is this available already, and if not, any plans for 
> future releases?

I love this in emacs, which I think it's safe to say probably had this
before jEdit ;-)  Been using vim more lately though and not quite sure
how to do the same so easily... it'd be amazing to have in textmate.

If we could get Textmate to go to work for me everyday and do my
laundry too that'd be even better...


-- 

______________________________
toddgrimason*todd-AT-slack.net




From wneumann at cs.unm.edu  Mon Feb 14 18:52:18 2005
From: wneumann at cs.unm.edu (William D. Neumann)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:52:18 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [TxMt] [Feature request] Code auto-indenting
In-Reply-To: <20050214184522.GC2283@detroit.slack.net>
References: <4210C8F2.8010609@incomumdesign.com>
	<20050214184522.GC2283@detroit.slack.net>
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Todd Grimason wrote:

> I love this in emacs, which I think it's safe to say probably had this
> before jEdit ;-)  Been using vim more lately though and not quite sure
> how to do the same so easily...

On a per-line basis, == does the trick.  For details on indenting ranges, 
the whole file, etc., go to  
and read the different approaches.

William D. Neumann

---

"There's just so many extra children, we could just feed the
children to these tigers.  We don't need them, we're not doing 
anything with them.

Tigers are noble and sleek; children are loud and messy."

         -- Neko Case

  Think of XML as Lisp for COBOL programmers.

 	-- Tony-A (some guy on /.)


From fire at kidbombay.com  Mon Feb 14 18:53:06 2005
From: fire at kidbombay.com (Ketan Anjaria)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:53:06 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Command Help for templates
Message-ID: 

I have a variable "myPackage" in my template. I would like to replace 
that with the directory of the template.

For example if I created a file at 
/project/include/com/kidbombay/Myfile.as
I would like to replace all instances of myPackage in my template with 
"com.kidbombay"

Basically the steps are
1. Is the file located inside a "include" directory? If yes continue.
2. Parse all folders down from the include level. 
"include/com/client/project" would return "com/client/project"
3. Replace the slashes with dots. "com/client/project" becomes 
com.client.project.
4. Replaces all instances of myPackage in my template with 
"com.client.project"

How would I do this? I am not very familiar with perl.

Thanks!



From ben at incomumdesign.com  Tue Feb 15 00:02:24 2005
From: ben at incomumdesign.com (Ben Jackson)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:02:24 -0200
Subject: [TxMt] Macro scripting
Message-ID: <42113C10.5020904@incomumdesign.com>

Up to this point I've been doing macros the dummy way, recording actions 
and saving them, etc... however I'd like to get a little more control 
and get access to things like cursor position, etc, that recording isn't 
going to give me. Is there a macro API? I haven't found any references 
to one in the docs.

-- 
Ben Jackson
Diretor de Desenvolvimento
INCOMUM Design & Conceito

+55 (21) 9127-2819
ben at incomumdesign.com
http://www.incomumdesign.com



From allan at macromates.com  Tue Feb 15 01:37:59 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:37:59 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Command Help for templates
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

On Feb 14, 2005, at 19:53, Ketan Anjaria wrote:

> I have a variable "myPackage" in my template. I would like to replace 
> that with the directory of the template.
> [...] Basically the steps are
> How would I do this? I am not very familiar with perl.

In the template command you can add this line among the variables that 
are setup (e.g. make it line 2):

   TM_PACKAGE=`sed <<<$TM_NEW_FILE_DIRECTORY -n 
's#.*include/\(.*\)#\1#p'|tr / .` \

It should do what you want, and then in your template use ${TM_PACKAGE} 
where you want the package name (or change the name of the variable).

If your new file doesn't have 'include' as an ancestor directory, the 
variable will be empty.



From allan at macromates.com  Tue Feb 15 01:44:19 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:44:19 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] [Feature request] Code auto-indenting
In-Reply-To: <0a308364033d0002c23927fb1a068afc@tomster.org>
References: <4210C8F2.8010609@incomumdesign.com>
	<0a308364033d0002c23927fb1a068afc@tomster.org>
Message-ID: <99f34f2ec65b1e1417316c2ae2d940b1@macromates.com>

On Feb 14, 2005, at 16:58, Tom Lazar wrote:

>> In jEdit I used a feature all the time that auto-indented my code 
>> blocks by pressng TAB. Is this available already, and if not, any 
>> plans for future releases?
> [...]
> and related to this i'd like to see a function 'indent according to 
> current mode' which would be extremely useful when editing code 
> created by someone else/with another tool.

I'm assuming that jEdit is for Java.

I'd love to add the feature requested, but any idea on how I can 
'indent to current mode' when TextMate is used for 20+ languages, and 
each language have like 5 different programming styles? ;)

There does however exist code beautifiers/pretty printers etc. which 
could probably be called from TextMate (e.g. on selected text). There's 
one included with OS X for C (called indent).

If anyone knows of (a working) one for [Objective-]C++, let me know! :)



From allan at macromates.com  Tue Feb 15 01:45:18 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:45:18 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Macro scripting
In-Reply-To: <42113C10.5020904@incomumdesign.com>
References: <42113C10.5020904@incomumdesign.com>
Message-ID: <29c1085ed7a1db97fb118d55273808b6@macromates.com>

On Feb 15, 2005, at 1:02, Ben Jackson wrote:

> Up to this point I've been doing macros the dummy way, recording 
> actions and saving them, etc... however I'd like to get a little more 
> control and get access to things like cursor position, etc, that 
> recording isn't going to give me. Is there a macro API? I haven't 
> found any references to one in the docs.

Sorry, no script-ability yet.



From fatal at starflam.com  Tue Feb 15 03:00:57 2005
From: fatal at starflam.com (fatal)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 04:00:57 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] How to switch icon sets?
In-Reply-To: <5db1f32dbff83b571a553a539b633a0c@macromates.com>
References: <420E502D.3080901@incomumdesign.com>
	<0d69e88cb8ce60e76949b089e4a26aa7@starflam.com>
	<5db1f32dbff83b571a553a539b633a0c@macromates.com>
Message-ID: 


On 13 f?vr. 05, at 00:10, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 12, 2005, at 23:48, Fred B. wrote:
>
>> BTW, I'd like to know if we can add new icons for other file type 
>> (Ruby, Shell,etc.)
>> Can we hack it ourselves or do you need to do it yourself, Allan?
>
> You can hack it yourself -- you need to modify the Info.plist in 
> TextMate.app/Contents to have a new entry for the file type to which 
> you want to add an icon (and you should remove that file type from the 
> catch-all entry) and place the icon in 
> TextMate.app/Contents/Resources.
>
> The info.plist might look more readable if you (from Terminal.app) do:
>  pl < Info.plist > New_Info.plist

Thanks Allan,

I'll give it a try when I have some time.

>
> But of course, if you send me something (nice) I can include it with 
> next beta.
>
>
The problem is:

1) I'm not a designer...
(BTW, does somebody know the font used for the type names on the actual 
icons (CSS, PHP,etc.)?)

2)As my main concern for the icons is visibility I changed the icons 
purpose a bit:
I use project icon for document and made a "classical" project icon. I 
join a small capture.
That makes the TM docs REALLY visible. I love that.
And I prefer the classic style: A pen on text editors icons, project 
icon made with multi docs icons, etc.

I used the Chris Vincent's icon (red TM) till now, and as I finally use 
the "official" one, I'm forking again ;) , but with the docs icons this 
time.

But, if somebody wants them. Just ask.
Till now, I made: CSS, HTML, RUBY, PY, JS, PL, SH, SQL, TXT, XML...

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From fredb7 at starflam.com  Tue Feb 15 03:10:26 2005
From: fredb7 at starflam.com (Fred B.)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 04:10:26 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] New TM Doc in Finder Contextal Menu. Any ideas ??
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
	<8f30ccca876a44e4a023bb3c435dabbc@starflam.com>
	
	<6753c572c89c1a6111c5ce2efccab79d@starflam.com>
	
Message-ID: 


On 12 f?vr. 05, at 19:23, Eric Hsu wrote:
>
> I wasn't the one who requested the CM, but I was guessing that one 
> always would either want to open an existing file (so you'd click on 
> it) or to open a fresh new one. In this second case, one would not 
> want to see the contents of a file you accidentally named.
>

For my own use, I prefer it the way it is. If I use a name already 
taken I might as well want to see what's in there.
But if someone want it the other way, I can do it, no problem.

Thanks for your time.
--
Fred




From allan at macromates.com  Tue Feb 15 03:36:26 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 04:36:26 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] How to switch icon sets?
In-Reply-To: 
References: <420E502D.3080901@incomumdesign.com>
	<0d69e88cb8ce60e76949b089e4a26aa7@starflam.com>
	<5db1f32dbff83b571a553a539b633a0c@macromates.com>
	
Message-ID: <02cfe6b1bee5220776e589e0a257af57@macromates.com>

On Feb 15, 2005, at 4:00, fatal wrote:

> (BTW, does somebody know the font used for the type names on the 
> actual icons (CSS, PHP,etc.)?)

There is an icon kit with templates which I think include the font 
setting, though I don't know if Wolfgang used this: 
http://mikeash.com/AquaIconKit1.1.dmg (and I don't have photoshop or 
similar myself, so I can't even read out that font setting for you ;) 
).



From james at grayproductions.net  Tue Feb 15 04:08:49 2005
From: james at grayproductions.net (James Edward Gray II)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:08:49 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Re: Exploring Snippets
In-Reply-To: <20050215030127.B01D51967@one.textdrive.com>
References: <20050215030127.B01D51967@one.textdrive.com>
Message-ID: <659dd5e969f0428db6e1cf613856c3a3@grayproductions.net>

On Feb 14, 2005, at 9:01 PM, Jarkko Laine wrote:

> On 14.2.2005, at 20:11, James Edward Gray II wrote:
>
>> I'm really digging into snippets (and loving them, by the way).  One
>> question though, I see $0s used in places and I'm not sure what it
>> does.  Could someone explain it to me?  Thanks.
>
> $0 is the place where the cursor is placed after the snippet has been
> run.

Really?  I thought that was $1.  Then you can tab to $2, $3, etc.

Maybe I didn't ask my question right.  Let me try again.  I understand 
$1 through $9, but I didn't know there was a $0 zero and in playing 
around it seems to behave slightly different from the others.  My 
question is, how does $0 relate to $1 through $9?

Thanks.

James Edward Gray II



From allan at macromates.com  Tue Feb 15 04:17:57 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 05:17:57 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Re: Exploring Snippets
In-Reply-To: <659dd5e969f0428db6e1cf613856c3a3@grayproductions.net>
References: <20050215030127.B01D51967@one.textdrive.com>
	<659dd5e969f0428db6e1cf613856c3a3@grayproductions.net>
Message-ID: <889ac9e4393366c18031f54e6b5cac50@macromates.com>

On Feb 15, 2005, at 5:08, James Edward Gray II wrote:

>> $0 is the place where the cursor is placed after the snippet has been
>> run.
> Really?  I thought that was $1.  Then you can tab to $2, $3, etc.

By run I think he means ?tabbed to the end?, i.e. gone through all the 
placeholders.

By default an implicit $0 is placed after your snippet, so e.g. if you 
write a snippet like: ?foo $1 bar $2 fud? the caret starts at $1, you 
can tab to $2, but you can do a second tab to ?leave? the snippet, and 
you end up just after ?fud?, so in fact the snippet is: ?foo $1 bar $2 
fud$3?.

Sometimes this is not desired, take this snippet:

\begin{$1}
$2
\end{$1}

Here we want to end between begin/end, but due to the implicit 
placeholder at the end of the snippet, a tab will take us outside this 
block. So instead we make it:

\begin{$1}
$0
\end{$1}

Then TextMate knows that you do not want the implicit tab position 
after the snippet, because you used $0.

Hope that clarifies it...



From rzigweid at zigweid.net  Tue Feb 15 07:40:09 2005
From: rzigweid at zigweid.net (Robert M.Zigweid)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:40:09 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] [Feature request] Code auto-indenting
In-Reply-To: <99f34f2ec65b1e1417316c2ae2d940b1@macromates.com>
References: <4210C8F2.8010609@incomumdesign.com>
	<0a308364033d0002c23927fb1a068afc@tomster.org>
	<99f34f2ec65b1e1417316c2ae2d940b1@macromates.com>
Message-ID: 


On Feb 14, 2005, at 8:44 PM, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 14, 2005, at 16:58, Tom Lazar wrote:
>
>>> In jEdit I used a feature all the time that auto-indented my code 
>>> blocks by pressng TAB. Is this available already, and if not, any 
>>> plans for future releases?
>> [...]
>> and related to this i'd like to see a function 'indent according to 
>> current mode' which would be extremely useful when editing code 
>> created by someone else/with another tool.
>
> I'm assuming that jEdit is for Java.
Just a clarification.  jEdit is written in Java, yes, but I believe 
it's got multiple modes for editing in different languages, just as 
TextMate does.  5 billion plugins for jEdit because it's been around 
longer though.

>
> I'd love to add the feature requested, but any idea on how I can 
> 'indent to current mode' when TextMate is used for 20+ languages, and 
> each language have like 5 different programming styles? ;)
And you're absolutely correct here too.

>
> There does however exist code beautifiers/pretty printers etc. which 
> could probably be called from TextMate (e.g. on selected text). 
> There's one included with OS X for C (called indent).
>
> If anyone knows of (a working) one for [Objective-]C++, let me know! :)
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>
-- 
Robert M. Zigweid                           rzigweid at zigweid.net
                                             http://rzigweid.zigweid.net

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From design at bartelme.at  Tue Feb 15 12:25:20 2005
From: design at bartelme.at (Bartelme Design)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:25:20 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Re: How to switch icon sets?
In-Reply-To: <20050215120008.0BF7118B1@one.textdrive.com>
References: <20050215120008.0BF7118B1@one.textdrive.com>
Message-ID: 

The font I used is called "Myriad Pro Semibold", which is included in 
all, or at least most of Adobe's Products...  by the way, Apple uses 
the same font for all of their products :)

best regards,
Wolfgang

Am 15.02.2005 um 13:00 schrieb textmate-request at lists.macromates.com:

> On Feb 15, 2005, at 4:00, fatal wrote:
>
>> (BTW, does somebody know the font used for the type names on the
>> actual icons (CSS, PHP,etc.)?)
>
> There is an icon kit with templates which I think include the font
> setting, though I don't know if Wolfgang used this:
> http://mikeash.com/AquaIconKit1.1.dmg (and I don't have photoshop or
> similar myself, so I can't even read out that font setting for you ;)
> ).




From fire at kidbombay.com  Tue Feb 15 17:12:05 2005
From: fire at kidbombay.com (Ketan Anjaria)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:12:05 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Command Help for templates
Message-ID: 

 >TM_PACKAGE=`sed <<<$TM_NEW_FILE_DIRECTORY -n
's#.*include/\(.*\)#\1#p'|tr / .` \

Allan,
I couldn't get this to work. The TM_PACKAGE is always blank.


You can see the command and template here
http://paste.lisp.org/display/5811

Am I doing something wrong?


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From cryo at cyanite.org  Tue Feb 15 17:38:31 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:38:31 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Command Help for templates
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

On 15. feb 2005, at 18:12, Ketan Anjaria wrote:

> >TM_PACKAGE=`sed <<<$TM_NEW_FILE_DIRECTORY -n
> 's#.*include/\(.*\)#\1#p'|tr / .` \
>
> Allan,
> I couldn't get this to work. The TM_PACKAGE is always blank.

Gah... I hate sed and perl ;-).

-- 
Sune    ::    http://cyanite.org/
     "And now there is merely silence, silence,
         silence, saying all we did not know."
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From allan at macromates.com  Tue Feb 15 19:36:53 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:36:53 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Command Help for templates
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <6e27e6b23d94a0d8e254d4f1c3976b8b@macromates.com>

On Feb 15, 2005, at 18:12, Ketan Anjaria wrote:

>> TM_PACKAGE=`sed <<<$TM_NEW_FILE_DIRECTORY -n
> 's#.*include/\(.*\)#\1#p'|tr / .` \
>
> I couldn't get this to work. The TM_PACKAGE is always blank.
>
> You can see the command and template here
> http://paste.lisp.org/display/5811
>
> Am I doing something wrong?

Pasting in the above verbatim works for me. However, I forgot to quote 
the command, so if you had spaces in the path, that would have been 
reason for the failure. The quoted version looks like this:

TM_PACKAGE="`sed <<<"$TM_NEW_FILE_DIRECTORY" -n 
's#.*include/\(.*\)#\1#p'|tr / .`" \

If you didn't have spaces in the path, did the path contain an 
'include' component when you created the file?



From fredb7 at starflam.com  Tue Feb 15 19:44:49 2005
From: fredb7 at starflam.com (Fred B.)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:44:49 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Re: How to switch icon sets?
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20050215120008.0BF7118B1@one.textdrive.com>
	
Message-ID: <63f3a86ca7142374e29961f47e5ca2af@starflam.com>


On 15 f?vr. 05, at 13:25, Bartelme Design wrote:

> The font I used is called "Myriad Pro Semibold", which is included in 
> all, or at least most of Adobe's Products...  by the way, Apple uses 
> the same font for all of their products :)
>
>
Thanks!

Stupid me. It was right in front of my nose on my PowerBook and at the 
back of my iMac.
I should have recognize this one.

Fred


From timfm at hawaii.rr.com  Tue Feb 15 20:51:40 2005
From: timfm at hawaii.rr.com (Tim Martens)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:51:40 -1000
Subject: [TxMt] A-Z, Z-A Sort
Message-ID: 

Is there any easy way to alphabetically sort a list?



From cryo at cyanite.org  Tue Feb 15 21:04:00 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:04:00 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] A-Z, Z-A Sort
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <3e2d00cb725c63c2fc689ef2b9981674@cyanite.org>

On 15. feb 2005, at 21:51, Tim Martens wrote:

> Is there any easy way to alphabetically sort a list?

Yes menu Text -> Filter through command.  Command:  sort
Input: selection   Output: replace selection.

-- 
Sune    ::    http://cyanite.org/
     "And now there is merely silence, silence,
         silence, saying all we did not know."



From ryanpublic at stickystyle.net  Wed Feb 16 05:38:41 2005
From: ryanpublic at stickystyle.net (Ryan)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:38:41 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Textmate Crash
Message-ID: <4212DC61.5080000@stickystyle.net>

I have just downloaded TextMate 1.0.2 and 1.1b5 and they both crash at 
startup, which is a real bummer because i really need a nice text editor 
for OS X.
When I open TextEdit it seems to start up, and shows a new blank text 
window for about 3 seconds, then proceds to crash. 
The crash report is affixed.  Looking back in the mailing list archives 
it sounded like someone else had a similar problem, but i didn't see a 
resolution.

Thanks in advance
--Ryan

Date/Time:      2005-02-15 21:36:16 -0800
OS Version:     10.3.8 (Build 7U16)
Report Version: 2

Command: TextMate
Path:    /Volumes/TextMate/TextMate.app/Contents/MacOS/TextMate
Version: 1.0.2 (1.0.2)
PID:     391
Thread:  0

Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes:      KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000

Thread 0 Crashed:

PPC Thread State:
  srr0: 0x00000000 srr1: 0x4200f030                vrsave: 0x00000000
    cr: 0x24022242  xer: 0x20000004   lr: 0x00000000  ctr: 0x931c7154
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From allan at macromates.com  Wed Feb 16 05:48:27 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 06:48:27 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Textmate Crash
In-Reply-To: <4212DC61.5080000@stickystyle.net>
References: <4212DC61.5080000@stickystyle.net>
Message-ID: <5b6ee9045a152ade729681df922d2c49@macromates.com>

On Feb 16, 2005, at 6:38, Ryan wrote:

> [...] Looking back in the mailing list archives it sounded like 
> someone else had a similar problem, but i didn't see a resolution.

It did? I don't remember that letter. There was however one that wrote 
me and described what sounds like a similar problem. He solved it by 
de-installing CocoaASpell -- I never got around to check further into 
it though.



From lists at visualchutzpah.com  Wed Feb 16 11:31:30 2005
From: lists at visualchutzpah.com (saul rosenbaum)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 06:31:30 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Command Newbie needs help
Message-ID: <4DDED28E-800E-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>

Howdy;

I like many of ya'll switched from BBedit to textMate, and love it, I 
can really use some help getting 'SmartyPants' and Markdown runnning (I 
got HTML Tidy going) how exactly do I get a PERL script running?



any help would be hugely appreciated..


-- 

s. rosenbaum
----------------------------------------------
http://www.visualchutzpah.com
http://www.saulrosenbaum.com
----------------------------------------------



From ryan at stickystyle.net  Wed Feb 16 15:33:30 2005
From: ryan at stickystyle.net (Ryan Parrish)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:33:30 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Textmate Crash
In-Reply-To: <5b6ee9045a152ade729681df922d2c49@macromates.com>
References: <4212DC61.5080000@stickystyle.net>
	<5b6ee9045a152ade729681df922d2c49@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <421367CA.1090402@stickystyle.net>

This is the one i was referencing, although reading it more careful it 
sounds like it doest start at all for him.  Where mine starts for a few 
seconds, then quits.

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.editors.textmate.general/1736/match=crash

FWIW, i don't have CocaASpell installed.


Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 16, 2005, at 6:38, Ryan wrote:
>
>> [...] Looking back in the mailing list archives it sounded like 
>> someone else had a similar problem, but i didn't see a resolution.
>
>
> It did? I don't remember that letter. There was however one that wrote 
> me and described what sounds like a similar problem. He solved it by 
> de-installing CocoaASpell -- I never got around to check further into 
> it though.
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate




From lists at poellath.org  Wed Feb 16 15:36:58 2005
From: lists at poellath.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ralph_P=F6llath?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:36:58 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Textmate Crash
In-Reply-To: <421367CA.1090402@stickystyle.net>
References: <4212DC61.5080000@stickystyle.net>
	<5b6ee9045a152ade729681df922d2c49@macromates.com>
	<421367CA.1090402@stickystyle.net>
Message-ID: <50eaa995a861cc7b8878308f18e6af7e@poellath.org>

Have you checked the logs using /Applications/Utilities/Console.app?

Cheers,
-Ralph.

On 16.02.2005, at 16:33, Ryan Parrish wrote:
> This is the one i was referencing, although reading it more careful it  
> sounds like it doest start at all for him.  Where mine starts for a  
> few seconds, then quits.
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.editors.textmate.general/1736/ 
> match=crash
> FWIW, i don't have CocaASpell installed.
>
> Allan Odgaard wrote:
>> On Feb 16, 2005, at 6:38, Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> [...] Looking back in the mailing list archives it sounded like  
>>> someone else had a similar problem, but i didn't see a resolution.
>>
>> It did? I don't remember that letter. There was however one that  
>> wrote me and described what sounds like a similar problem. He solved  
>> it by de-installing CocoaASpell -- I never got around to check  
>> further into it though.



From ryan at stickystyle.net  Wed Feb 16 15:43:17 2005
From: ryan at stickystyle.net (Ryan Parrish)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:43:17 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Textmate Crash
In-Reply-To: <50eaa995a861cc7b8878308f18e6af7e@poellath.org>
References: <4212DC61.5080000@stickystyle.net>	<5b6ee9045a152ade729681df922d2c49@macromates.com>	<421367CA.1090402@stickystyle.net>
	<50eaa995a861cc7b8878308f18e6af7e@poellath.org>
Message-ID: <42136A15.70600@stickystyle.net>

Yes, it has the same information as what i posted in the first message.  
With the exception of being an on going log of each crash.

Incase anybody missed it, here is the summary...

Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes:      KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000


Ralph P?llath wrote:

> Have you checked the logs using /Applications/Utilities/Console.app?
>
> Cheers,
> -Ralph.
>
> On 16.02.2005, at 16:33, Ryan Parrish wrote:
>
>> This is the one i was referencing, although reading it more careful 
>> it  sounds like it doest start at all for him.  Where mine starts for 
>> a  few seconds, then quits.
>> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.editors.textmate.general/1736/ 
>> match=crash
>> FWIW, i don't have CocaASpell installed.
>>
>> Allan Odgaard wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 16, 2005, at 6:38, Ryan wrote:
>>>
>>>> [...] Looking back in the mailing list archives it sounded like  
>>>> someone else had a similar problem, but i didn't see a resolution.
>>>
>>>
>>> It did? I don't remember that letter. There was however one that  
>>> wrote me and described what sounds like a similar problem. He 
>>> solved  it by de-installing CocoaASpell -- I never got around to 
>>> check  further into it though.
>>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate




From allan at macromates.com  Wed Feb 16 15:45:48 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:45:48 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Textmate Crash
In-Reply-To: <421367CA.1090402@stickystyle.net>
References: <4212DC61.5080000@stickystyle.net>
	<5b6ee9045a152ade729681df922d2c49@macromates.com>
	<421367CA.1090402@stickystyle.net>
Message-ID: <6681de3f564f9bc71ac9ff0de50e2ab3@macromates.com>

On Feb 16, 2005, at 16:33, Ryan Parrish wrote:

> This is the one i was referencing, although reading it more careful it 
> sounds like it doest start at all for him.  Where mine starts for a 
> few seconds, then quits.

Ah, that was a problem with b9 which was zero-linked.

I'd suggest creating a new user account (System Preferences / Accounts) 
and try to start it when logged into that account. I'm 95% sure that 
the problem has to do with an incompatibility with another application, 
since this is the first I hear of it (besides the CocoaASpell problem).



From allan at macromates.com  Wed Feb 16 15:56:01 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:56:01 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Textmate Crash
In-Reply-To: <42136A15.70600@stickystyle.net>
References: <4212DC61.5080000@stickystyle.net>	<5b6ee9045a152ade729681df922d2c49@macromates.com>	<421367CA.1090402@stickystyle.net>
	<50eaa995a861cc7b8878308f18e6af7e@poellath.org>
	<42136A15.70600@stickystyle.net>
Message-ID: <4a6a2d272242657eff81fad0677f2f46@macromates.com>

On Feb 16, 2005, at 16:43, Ryan Parrish wrote:

> Yes, it has the same information as what i posted in the first 
> message.  With the exception of being an on going log of each crash.

There's also /Application/Utilities/Console.app that shows the system 
log, I think that was what he referred to.

If it was e.g. a missing framework or similar, it would be written 
there, but not be present in the crash log.



From tim at splashdesign.com  Wed Feb 16 21:01:10 2005
From: tim at splashdesign.com (Tim Martens)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:01:10 -1000
Subject: [TxMt] Command Newbie needs help
In-Reply-To: <4DDED28E-800E-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
References: <4DDED28E-800E-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
Message-ID: 


On Feb 16, 2005, at 1:31 AM, saul rosenbaum wrote:

> Howdy;
>
> I like many of ya'll switched from BBedit to textMate, and love it, I 
> can really use some help getting 'SmartyPants' and Markdown runnning 
> (I got HTML Tidy going) how exactly do I get a PERL script running?

Saul,

+ Select the Markdown/Smarty Pants text want to convert, or (if it's 
the whole document) skip this step
+ Hit Option+Shift+R to launch the "Filter Through Command..." dialogue
+ Place the path to your markdown.pl or SmartyPants.pl in the "Command" 
field/pull-down (mine's in "/usr/local/bin/markdown.pl")
+ Choose "Selection" or "Document" for Input
+ Choose your Output option. I usually do "Replace selection," "Replace 
document" or "Place on clipboard"
+ Make sure you have your safety goggles on  :)
+ Click "Execute"

Hope this helps. This could easily be made into a Macro as well.

OT: how did you get HTMLtidy working?

  -t



From lists at visualchutzpah.com  Wed Feb 16 22:29:21 2005
From: lists at visualchutzpah.com (saul rosenbaum)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:29:21 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Command Newbie needs help
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4DDED28E-800E-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
	
Message-ID: <343868E0-806A-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>

Hmm.. I get back a line that says -- permission denied..


On Feb 16, 2005, at 4:01 PM, Tim Martens wrote:

>
> On Feb 16, 2005, at 1:31 AM, saul rosenbaum wrote:
>
>> Howdy;
>>
>> I like many of ya'll switched from BBedit to textMate, and love it, I 
>> can really use some help getting 'SmartyPants' and Markdown runnning 
>> (I got HTML Tidy going) how exactly do I get a PERL script running?
>
> Saul,
>
> + Select the Markdown/Smarty Pants text want to convert, or (if it's 
> the whole document) skip this step
> + Hit Option+Shift+R to launch the "Filter Through Command..." dialogue
> + Place the path to your markdown.pl or SmartyPants.pl in the 
> "Command" field/pull-down (mine's in "/usr/local/bin/markdown.pl")
> + Choose "Selection" or "Document" for Input
> + Choose your Output option. I usually do "Replace selection," 
> "Replace document" or "Place on clipboard"
> + Make sure you have your safety goggles on  :)
> + Click "Execute"
>
> Hope this helps. This could easily be made into a Macro as well.
>
> OT: how did you get HTMLtidy working?
>
>  -t
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>



From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Wed Feb 16 23:54:28 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:54:28 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Command Newbie needs help
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4DDED28E-800E-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
	
Message-ID: 

At 11:01 AM -1000 2/16/05, Tim Martens wrote:
>OT: how did you get HTMLtidy working?

I got TM to play with HTML Tidy as described here: 
http://one.textdrive.com/pipermail/textmate/2004-December/001673.html

best, Eric


From tim at splashdesign.com  Thu Feb 17 00:25:31 2005
From: tim at splashdesign.com (Tim Martens)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:25:31 -1000
Subject: [TxMt] Command Newbie needs help
In-Reply-To: <343868E0-806A-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
References: <4DDED28E-800E-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
	
	<343868E0-806A-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
Message-ID: 

Are you logged in as administrator?


On Feb 16, 2005, at 12:29 PM, saul rosenbaum wrote:

> Hmm.. I get back a line that says -- permission denied..
>
>
> On Feb 16, 2005, at 4:01 PM, Tim Martens wrote:
>
>>
>> On Feb 16, 2005, at 1:31 AM, saul rosenbaum wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy;
>>>
>>> I like many of ya'll switched from BBedit to textMate, and love it, 
>>> I can really use some help getting 'SmartyPants' and Markdown 
>>> runnning (I got HTML Tidy going) how exactly do I get a PERL script 
>>> running?
>>
>> Saul,
>>
>> + Select the Markdown/Smarty Pants text want to convert, or (if it's 
>> the whole document) skip this step
>> + Hit Option+Shift+R to launch the "Filter Through Command..." 
>> dialogue
>> + Place the path to your markdown.pl or SmartyPants.pl in the 
>> "Command" field/pull-down (mine's in "/usr/local/bin/markdown.pl")
>> + Choose "Selection" or "Document" for Input
>> + Choose your Output option. I usually do "Replace selection," 
>> "Replace document" or "Place on clipboard"
>> + Make sure you have your safety goggles on  :)
>> + Click "Execute"
>>
>> Hope this helps. This could easily be made into a Macro as well.
>>
>> OT: how did you get HTMLtidy working?
>>
>>  -t
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________________
>> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
>> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
>> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>



From allan at macromates.com  Thu Feb 17 03:24:38 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 04:24:38 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Command Newbie needs help
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4DDED28E-800E-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
	
Message-ID: 

On Feb 16, 2005, at 22:01, Tim Martens wrote:

> + Hit Option+Shift+R to launch the "Filter Through Command..." 
> dialogue [...] This could easily be made into a Macro as well.

You can also create a command instead of having a macro do ?Filter 
Through Command??. This makes it easier to later change the shell 
command executed.



From robert_ullrey at mac.com  Thu Feb 17 05:06:48 2005
From: robert_ullrey at mac.com (Mr. Robert Ullrey)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:06:48 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Transmit 3
Message-ID: 

FYI: Panic software's Transmit 3 has been released with support for
TextMate. 


From mike at screenflicker.com  Thu Feb 17 05:12:15 2005
From: mike at screenflicker.com (Mike Stickel)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:12:15 -0700
Subject: [TxMt] Transmit 3
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

And it's a great app so far, column view, tabs, redefined favourites, etc,
etc.


On 2/16/05 10:06 PM, "Mr. Robert Ullrey"  wrote:

> FYI: Panic software's Transmit 3 has been released with support for
> TextMate. 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate

Mike Stickel
Screenflicker Developments
www.screenflicker.com

p: 403-271-9118
e: mike at screenflicker.com




From lists at visualchutzpah.com  Thu Feb 17 05:49:16 2005
From: lists at visualchutzpah.com (saul rosenbaum)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 00:49:16 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Command Newbie needs help
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4DDED28E-800E-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
	
	<343868E0-806A-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
	
Message-ID: 

Yes, I only have the one account on the machine...
very odd, I have no such issue with TidyHTML perhaps because it's an  
executable..



On Feb 16, 2005, at 7:25 PM, Tim Martens wrote:

> Are you logged in as administrator?
>
>
> On Feb 16, 2005, at 12:29 PM, saul rosenbaum wrote:
>
>> Hmm.. I get back a line that says -- permission denied..
>>
>>
>> On Feb 16, 2005, at 4:01 PM, Tim Martens wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 16, 2005, at 1:31 AM, saul rosenbaum wrote:
>>>
>>>> Howdy;
>>>>
>>>> I like many of ya'll switched from BBedit to textMate, and love it,  
>>>> I can really use some help getting 'SmartyPants' and Markdown  
>>>> runnning (I got HTML Tidy going) how exactly do I get a PERL script  
>>>> running?
>>>
>>> Saul,
>>>
>>> + Select the Markdown/Smarty Pants text want to convert, or (if it's  
>>> the whole document) skip this step
>>> + Hit Option+Shift+R to launch the "Filter Through Command..."  
>>> dialogue
>>> + Place the path to your markdown.pl or SmartyPants.pl in the  
>>> "Command" field/pull-down (mine's in "/usr/local/bin/markdown.pl")
>>> + Choose "Selection" or "Document" for Input
>>> + Choose your Output option. I usually do "Replace selection,"  
>>> "Replace document" or "Place on clipboard"
>>> + Make sure you have your safety goggles on  :)
>>> + Click "Execute"
>>>
>>> Hope this helps. This could easily be made into a Macro as well.
>>>
>>> OT: how did you get HTMLtidy working?
>>>
>>>  -t
>>>
>>> _____________________________________________________________________ 
>>> _
>>> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
>>> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you  
>>> don't)
>>> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>>>
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________________
>> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
>> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
>> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>



From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Thu Feb 17 05:56:40 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:56:40 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Command Newbie needs help
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4DDED28E-800E-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
	
	<343868E0-806A-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
	
	
Message-ID: 

At 12:49 AM -0500 2/17/05, saul rosenbaum wrote:
>>+ Place the path to your markdown.pl or SmartyPants.pl in the 
>>"Command" field/pull-down (mine's in "/usr/local/bin/markdown.pl")
>Hmm.. I get back a line that says -- permission denied..   very odd, 
>I have no such issue with TidyHTML perhaps because it's an 
>executable.

Forgive the dumb suggestion, but did you chmod +x the perl script? 
Can you run the script using the same command format from the command 
prompt?

- Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From lists at visualchutzpah.com  Thu Feb 17 06:03:45 2005
From: lists at visualchutzpah.com (saul rosenbaum)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 01:03:45 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Command Newbie needs help
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4DDED28E-800E-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
	
	<343868E0-806A-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
	
	
	
Message-ID: 

Not such a dumb suggestion -- cause I have no idea how to do that... 
have a step by step?


On Feb 17, 2005, at 12:56 AM, Eric Hsu wrote:

> At 12:49 AM -0500 2/17/05, saul rosenbaum wrote:
>>> + Place the path to your markdown.pl or SmartyPants.pl in the 
>>> "Command" field/pull-down (mine's in "/usr/local/bin/markdown.pl")
>> Hmm.. I get back a line that says -- permission denied..   very odd, 
>> I have no such issue with TidyHTML perhaps because it's an 
>> executable.
>
> Forgive the dumb suggestion, but did you chmod +x the perl script? Can 
> you run the script using the same command format from the command 
> prompt?
>
> - Eric
> -- 
> Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
> San Francisco State University
> erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
> http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>



From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Thu Feb 17 06:26:55 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:26:55 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Command Newbie needs help
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4DDED28E-800E-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
	
	<343868E0-806A-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
	
	
	
	
Message-ID: 

At 1:03 AM -0500 2/17/05, saul rosenbaum wrote:
>Not such a dumb suggestion -- cause I have no idea how to do that... 
>have a step by step?

If your markdown.pl lives at (say) /usr/local/bin/markdown.pl, you need to run

chmod +x  /usr/local/bin/markdown.pl

The +x sets the 'execute' flag so the shell knows to try to run what 
looks like a text file. Otherwise, you need to run it with "perl 
/usr/local/bin/markdown.pl".

You can check if you did it right by running

/usr/local/bin/markdown.pl -v

from the shell. If you get a version, you should be okay from TM. If 
you get the permission denied thing, you probably messed up the chmod 
+x. You can check the file flags with

ls -l /usr/local/bin/markdown.pl

which should give you some r,w,x and - signs all grouped at the 
front.  If there are some x's then you set the flags correctly.  For 
instance, mine looks like "-rwxr-xr-x".

Hope that's helpful.  - Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From lists at visualchutzpah.com  Thu Feb 17 07:24:26 2005
From: lists at visualchutzpah.com (saul rosenbaum)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 02:24:26 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Command Newbie needs help
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4DDED28E-800E-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
	
	<343868E0-806A-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
	
	
	
	
	
Message-ID: 

ROCK ON! -- it works

thank you so much everyone -- and I learned a few things (like where my 
/usr/local/bin) directory was


Thanks  ERIC for the shell lesson



From roberto+textmate at keltia.freenix.fr  Thu Feb 17 08:42:09 2005
From: roberto+textmate at keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:42:09 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Small feature request: transpose two characters
Message-ID: <20050217084209.GA13043@tara.freenix.org>

I know that could be achieved as a macro but I'd like to see a key to
exchange the character under the cursor and the next one, ? la ^T under
emacs.

Thanks,
-- 
Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto at keltia.freenix.fr
Darwin snuadh.freenix.org Kernel Version 7.8.0: Wed Dec 22 14:26:17 PST 2004


From allan at macromates.com  Thu Feb 17 09:11:04 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:11:04 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Small feature request: transpose two characters
In-Reply-To: <20050217084209.GA13043@tara.freenix.org>
References: <20050217084209.GA13043@tara.freenix.org>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 17, 2005, at 9:42, Ollivier Robert wrote:

> I know that could be achieved as a macro but I'd like to see a key to
> exchange the character under the cursor and the next one, ? la ^T under
> emacs.

Control-T already does that in TextMate.

Additionally, if you are at the beginning or end of a line, it will 
swap the current/next line.

If several characters are selected, it will reverse these. If several 
lines are selected, it will reverse the order of the lines.



From blalor at bravo5.org  Thu Feb 17 11:05:46 2005
From: blalor at bravo5.org (Brian Lalor)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 06:05:46 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Small feature request: transpose two characters
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20050217084209.GA13043@tara.freenix.org>
	
Message-ID: <6d73b5cd6dedfff59573de24fad12098@bravo5.org>

On Feb 17, 2005, at 4:11 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> Additionally, if you are at the beginning or end of a line, it will 
> swap the current/next line.
>
> If several characters are selected, it will reverse these. If several 
> lines are selected, it will reverse the order of the lines.

showoff. :-)

-- 
     __   ____
    / /  / __/ Brian Lalor
   / _ \/__ \  blalor at bravo5.org
  /_.__/____/  http://bravo5.org/



From list at redry.net  Thu Feb 17 11:10:25 2005
From: list at redry.net (eoghan)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:10:25 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Transmit 3
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <42147BA1.20408@redry.net>

docksend :)

Mike Stickel wrote:

>And it's a great app so far, column view, tabs, redefined favourites, etc,
>etc.
>  
>


From tom at tomster.org  Thu Feb 17 11:11:41 2005
From: tom at tomster.org (Tom Lazar)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:11:41 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Small feature request: transpose two characters
In-Reply-To: <6d73b5cd6dedfff59573de24fad12098@bravo5.org>
References: <20050217084209.GA13043@tara.freenix.org>
	
	<6d73b5cd6dedfff59573de24fad12098@bravo5.org>
Message-ID: <5f9fb0c1bf8e33153cde160ea236b06a@tomster.org>

On 17.02.2005, at 12:05, Brian Lalor wrote:

>> If several characters are selected, it will reverse these. If several 
>> lines are selected, it will reverse the order of the lines.
>
> showoff. :-)

seriously: allan's demonstrating exactly the spirit which makes 
textmate such a cool tool.

i'm gettin' myself a paypal account today and register my copy of 
textmate!

see you guys around ;-)

tom

>
>
--
Tom Lazar, http://tomster.org



From woeye at highteq.net  Thu Feb 17 11:35:48 2005
From: woeye at highteq.net (Lars Hoss)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:35:48 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Small feature request: Show full path of file somewhere
Message-ID: <6be1e827ff608b47b8f20125e4972474@highteq.net>

Hi!

Would it be possible to show the full path of a file somewhere, for 
example in the title bar? Currently it's not easy to keep apart two 
files with the same name but different locations.

Regards,
Lars

--
"Stil ist die F?higkeit, komplizierte Dinge einfach zu sagen - nicht 
umgekehrt." -- Cocteau, Jean


From roberto+textmate at keltia.freenix.fr  Thu Feb 17 11:42:28 2005
From: roberto+textmate at keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:42:28 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Small feature request: transpose two characters
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20050217084209.GA13043@tara.freenix.org>
	
Message-ID: <20050217114228.GA31092@tara.freenix.org>

According to Allan Odgaard:
> Control-T already does that in TextMate.

Uh, where did I get the idea it didn't?

> Additionally, if you are at the beginning or end of a line, it will 
> swap the current/next line.
> 
> If several characters are selected, it will reverse these. If several 
> lines are selected, it will reverse the order of the lines.

Feature with a nice twist, as usual with TM.  Thanks a lot Allan.  I've
never felt 40 US$ so well spent.
-- 
Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto at keltia.freenix.fr
Darwin snuadh.freenix.org Kernel Version 7.8.0: Wed Dec 22 14:26:17 PST 2004


From roberto+textmate at keltia.freenix.fr  Thu Feb 17 11:44:10 2005
From: roberto+textmate at keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:44:10 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Small feature request: Show full path of file somewhere
In-Reply-To: <6be1e827ff608b47b8f20125e4972474@highteq.net>
References: <6be1e827ff608b47b8f20125e4972474@highteq.net>
Message-ID: <20050217114410.GB31092@tara.freenix.org>

According to Lars Hoss:
> Would it be possible to show the full path of a file somewhere, for 
> example in the title bar? Currently it's not easy to keep apart two 
> files with the same name but different locations.

I can answer that one: if you are in a project with tabs, just hover on the
tab itself, a tooltip will appear with the full path...

In single file edits though, I don't see it.
-- 
Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto at keltia.freenix.fr
Darwin snuadh.freenix.org Kernel Version 7.8.0: Wed Dec 22 14:26:17 PST 2004


From tom at tomster.org  Thu Feb 17 11:51:45 2005
From: tom at tomster.org (Tom Lazar)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:51:45 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Small feature request: Show full path of file somewhere
In-Reply-To: <6be1e827ff608b47b8f20125e4972474@highteq.net>
References: <6be1e827ff608b47b8f20125e4972474@highteq.net>
Message-ID: <4dbb6b28acf0a614bf3bcf81238f86d2@tomster.org>

On 17.02.2005, at 12:35, Lars Hoss wrote:

> Would it be possible to show the full path of a file somewhere, for 
> example in the title bar? Currently it's not easy to keep apart two 
> files with the same name but different locations.

ooh, please not. i frequently work with remote files and would hate to 
see all those temporary folders up there.

apart from the tooltips you can also just apple-click into the title 
and it will show you the path.

hth,

t.
--
Tom Lazar, http://tomster.org



From allan at macromates.com  Thu Feb 17 11:52:44 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:52:44 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Small feature request: Show full path of file somewhere
In-Reply-To: <6be1e827ff608b47b8f20125e4972474@highteq.net>
References: <6be1e827ff608b47b8f20125e4972474@highteq.net>
Message-ID: <26ac0d47c26b4f49d494564eb5b4bb83@macromates.com>

On Feb 17, 2005, at 12:35, Lars Hoss wrote:

> Would it be possible to show the full path of a file somewhere, for 
> example in the title bar? Currently it's not easy to keep apart two 
> files with the same name but different locations.

I don't like having the full path in the title because it's 
non-standard (and ugly ;) ). But I do see the problem, so yesterday on 
IRC I think there was consensus that a good solution would be, that I 
only show full path, when more than one file is open with the same 
name.

So a dis-ambiguity feature similar to the Recent Items-menu, which also 
only display the full path when there are ambiguities.

Comments are welcome!



From allan at macromates.com  Thu Feb 17 11:54:20 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:54:20 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Small feature request: transpose two characters
In-Reply-To: <5f9fb0c1bf8e33153cde160ea236b06a@tomster.org>
References: <20050217084209.GA13043@tara.freenix.org>
	
	<6d73b5cd6dedfff59573de24fad12098@bravo5.org>
	<5f9fb0c1bf8e33153cde160ea236b06a@tomster.org>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 17, 2005, at 12:11, Tom Lazar wrote:

> seriously: allan's demonstrating exactly the spirit which makes 
> textmate such a cool tool.
>
> i'm gettin' myself a paypal account today and register my copy of 
> textmate!

Thanks! And just for the records; you do not need a PayPal account. 
Follow the ?Click Here? link (for not having an account) and it's 
possible to pay with normal credit card (although the text doesn't make 
it sound like it).



From tom at tomster.org  Thu Feb 17 12:06:10 2005
From: tom at tomster.org (Tom Lazar)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:06:10 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Small feature request: transpose two characters
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20050217084209.GA13043@tara.freenix.org>
	
	<6d73b5cd6dedfff59573de24fad12098@bravo5.org>
	<5f9fb0c1bf8e33153cde160ea236b06a@tomster.org>
	
Message-ID: 

On 17.02.2005, at 12:54, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> Thanks! And just for the records; you do not need a PayPal account. 
> Follow the ?Click Here? link (for not having an account) and it's 
> possible to pay with normal credit card (although the text doesn't 
> make it sound like it).

oh, that's cool. indeed i hadn't realised this. you really might want 
to point that out a little bit more. for me that paypal thing was 
holding me back, perhaps there are others who think likewise and you 
wouldn't want to pass up on their money ;-)

best regards,

tom

--
Tom Lazar, http://tomster.org



From allan at macromates.com  Thu Feb 17 12:17:07 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:17:07 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Small feature request: transpose two characters
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20050217084209.GA13043@tara.freenix.org>
	
	<6d73b5cd6dedfff59573de24fad12098@bravo5.org>
	<5f9fb0c1bf8e33153cde160ea236b06a@tomster.org>
	
	
Message-ID: 

On Feb 17, 2005, at 13:06, Tom Lazar wrote:

>> Thanks! And just for the records; you do not need a PayPal account. 
>> Follow the ?Click Here? link [...]
> oh, that's cool. indeed i hadn't realised this. you really might want 
> to point that out a little bit more. for me that paypal thing was 
> holding me back, perhaps there are others who think likewise and you 
> wouldn't want to pass up on their money ;-)

Yes, there are quite a few who write me and ask for alternative payment 
options :)

My ?problem? is that the text is currently under the control of PayPal, 
so if I were to put emphasis on it, I'd have to add an extra screen 
between the ?Buy Now? link and the actual PayPal page, which I 
initially figured was a bit clumsy -- but I think I'll add that later 
tonight.



From simon at helvector.org  Thu Feb 17 12:24:58 2005
From: simon at helvector.org (Simon Gregory)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:24:58 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Small feature request: Show full path of file somewhere
In-Reply-To: <26ac0d47c26b4f49d494564eb5b4bb83@macromates.com>
References: <6be1e827ff608b47b8f20125e4972474@highteq.net>
	<26ac0d47c26b4f49d494564eb5b4bb83@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <3b4caa2bf483661ce2e0b1360eb9991e@helvector.org>

On 17 Feb 2005, at 11:52 am, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> I don't like having the full path in the title because it's 
> non-standard (and ugly ;) ). But I do see the problem, so yesterday on 
> IRC I think there was consensus that a good solution would be, that I 
> only show full path, when more than one file is open with the same 
> name.

I'm also against the full path option for the same reasons. It'd get 
real messy.

A quick thought I had is that the file path could be kept as short as 
possible by showing it to the point where it becomes unique. So instead 
of the full path:

/Users/Simon/Documents/Code/AS/org/helvector/date/util/Compare.as
/Users/Simon/Documents/Code/AS/org/helvector/currency/util/Compare.as

they're cut down to

date/util/Compare.as
currency/util/Compare.as



From allan at macromates.com  Thu Feb 17 12:55:28 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:55:28 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Moderator: Subject rules
Message-ID: 

I must say everybody is doing a great job writing proper subjects, and 
I appreciate it very much! :)

I just have one request, namely that you only use ?Req:? or similar 
short prefix for feature requests. ?Small Feature Request? is a little 
long, and probably causes the actual subject to be clipped in many 
clients (at least in mine ;) ).

Kind regards Allan



From simon at helvector.org  Thu Feb 17 14:25:32 2005
From: simon at helvector.org (Simon Gregory)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:25:32 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Bundle: Apache
Message-ID: <986b614624c802e2bb9e232dca3d6e7a@helvector.org>

I've got a fledgling Apache bundle built (can I get repository access 
please Allan?) and have a couple of questions regarding how things 
work.

The bracket  {  } based syntax.plist file I'm editing gets converted to 
an apple plist file when textmate is launched, firstly why? and 
secondly how can I stop it happening as it's easier to edit the bracket 
based file in place.

The following (with a unique string) crops up in a few of the other 
bundle syntax files, what is it?

uuid = "991022B4-6B1D-11B5-90EB-000D93589AF6";

Thanks,
Simon



From cryo at cyanite.org  Thu Feb 17 14:29:02 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:29:02 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Bundle: Apache
In-Reply-To: <986b614624c802e2bb9e232dca3d6e7a@helvector.org>
References: <986b614624c802e2bb9e232dca3d6e7a@helvector.org>
Message-ID: <515f1df4fd5fbd76f3a370249fb581f7@cyanite.org>

On 17. feb 2005, at 15:25, Simon Gregory wrote:

> The following (with a unique string) crops up in a few of the other 
> bundle syntax files, what is it?
> uuid = "991022B4-6B1D-11B5-90EB-000D93589AF6";

Each bundle has a unique identifier. You can generate one for your 
bundle using the uuidgen shell command.

-- 
Sune.
:: the Cottage of Lost Play.
:: http://cyanite.org



From woeye at mac.com  Thu Feb 17 14:34:16 2005
From: woeye at mac.com (Lars Hoss)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:34:16 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Small feature request: Show full path of file somewhere
In-Reply-To: <3b4caa2bf483661ce2e0b1360eb9991e@helvector.org>
References: <6be1e827ff608b47b8f20125e4972474@highteq.net>
	<26ac0d47c26b4f49d494564eb5b4bb83@macromates.com>
	<3b4caa2bf483661ce2e0b1360eb9991e@helvector.org>
Message-ID: 

Hi!

> A quick thought I had is that the file path could be kept as short as 
> possible by showing it to the point where it becomes unique. So 
> instead of the full path:
>
> /Users/Simon/Documents/Code/AS/org/helvector/date/util/Compare.as
> /Users/Simon/Documents/Code/AS/org/helvector/currency/util/Compare.as
>
> they're cut down to
>
> date/util/Compare.as
> currency/util/Compare.as

Good idea! I've already seen this somewhere but forgot where.

Regards,
Lars

--
"Stil ist die F?higkeit, komplizierte Dinge einfach zu sagen - nicht 
umgekehrt." -- Cocteau, Jean



From allan at macromates.com  Thu Feb 17 14:40:18 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:40:18 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Bundle: Apache
In-Reply-To: <986b614624c802e2bb9e232dca3d6e7a@helvector.org>
References: <986b614624c802e2bb9e232dca3d6e7a@helvector.org>
Message-ID: <3bce46b308365012cf866227a9fabd29@macromates.com>

On Feb 17, 2005, at 15:25, Simon Gregory wrote:

> I've got a fledgling Apache bundle built (can I get repository access 
> please Allan?)

Done!

> The bracket  {  } based syntax.plist file I'm editing gets converted 
> to an apple plist file when textmate is launched, firstly why?

TextMate can only write the XML version. It updates your syntax file 
because it has no UUID. You can convert it back with the 'pl' command 
line tool (which reads/writes from/to stdin/stdout). Or you can add an 
UUID yourself to your file, then TM won't update your file.

> The following (with a unique string) crops up in a few of the other 
> bundle syntax files, what is it?

The reason that all bundle items have UUID (which is short for: 
Universal Unique Identifier) is so that these can be recognized, even 
when renamed.

This is important because e.g. if you rename/delete a default item, or 
change it (which causes a local copy to be created), you want your 
changes to persist even when you update TM and get a new set of default 
items.

So it uses the UUID to see which of your local copies are ?identical? 
to factory defaults (or which of the default items should be deleted, 
based on a blacklist consisting of UUIDs).



From fredb7 at starflam.com  Thu Feb 17 15:43:33 2005
From: fredb7 at starflam.com (Fred B.)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:43:33 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
Message-ID: 

After the small features request, here is a big one ;)
I'm sure we talked about it here, but I don't remember if this is 
planned or not.

Actually, I use TextMate for everything text-related except one thing: 
comparing two document(Diff).
Unfortunately I need this feature a lot. For me, this is "The Last Big 
Thing" that TM misses.

The best solution I found so far is to have a command launching 
TextWrangler to compare the active one and one I have to choose(w/Cocoa 
Dialog).
1) The way to launch this is a bit clumsy. (Having to navigate thru an 
"open" dialog)
2) Having TextWrangler opened just for that sucks a bit.
3) Having to edit the files in TW really sucks. I miss all the TM 
goodness and It makes me feels I'm back in time. ;)
(And worst of all, I use TM shortcuts all the time and wonder why my 
commands, snippets, etc. don't work 8-| )
4) This doesn't work with remote files, or I have to open them in TW. 
Meaning changing the prefs of my SFTP client.

What I like in the "Compare two front documents" feature of TW:
-The full screen is shared by the two docs with the Differences window 
under.
-You can navigate easily thru the diffs.
-Closing the Differences window brings the docs back where they were.
-It exists. ;)
You can even check differences of folders and batch files.

So, my question is:
Do you plan to implement this in TM, Allan?
If the answer is yes, any idea when we might expect this?

Meanwhile, does anybody have a better solution?

--
Thanks



From victor.tolbert at gmail.com  Thu Feb 17 17:36:05 2005
From: victor.tolbert at gmail.com (Vick Nice)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:36:05 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] [Feature Request] Shift + Delete to delete to the right of
	cursor.
Message-ID: <1bacee20050217093663184f10@mail.gmail.com>

I've kinda grown accustomed to pressing Shift + Delete to delete to
the right of cursor. Any chance of this being added to Textmate?   Is
it something I can add myself?

Thanks,

Vick


From lang at langriley.com  Thu Feb 17 18:34:20 2005
From: lang at langriley.com (Lang Riley)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:34:20 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] [Feature Request] Shift + Delete to delete to the right of
	cursor.
In-Reply-To: <1bacee20050217093663184f10@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1bacee20050217093663184f10@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <89AF23DE-8112-11D9-AA57-000A95B635C0@langriley.com>

Ctl-delete will do what you want
On Feb 17, 2005, at 9:36 AM, Vick Nice wrote:

> I've kinda grown accustomed to pressing Shift + Delete to delete to
> the right of cursor. Any chance of this being added to Textmate?   Is
> it something I can add myself?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vick
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>
>
--
Best regards,
Lang Riley



From lang at langriley.com  Thu Feb 17 18:40:08 2005
From: lang at langriley.com (Lang Riley)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:40:08 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Text->Shift Left/Right Question  (problem??)
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
Message-ID: <58FF49FE-8113-11D9-AA57-000A95B635C0@langriley.com>

i am really responding late to this, but i would like these exposed for 
editing as well...
On Feb 9, 2005, at 11:35 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 9, 2005, at 16:24, Mats Persson wrote:
>
>> However, when using Text->Shift Left/Right these comments are not 
>> moved together with the other text.
>>
>> Anyone have an idea of how I can make that work ?? Is it something 
>> only for Allan, or just syntax file issue ??
>
> I think that's hardcoded ;) I should be able to expose (for editing) 
> the regex-patterns I use for shift left/right.
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>
>
--
Best regards,
Lang Riley



From torsten.becker at gmail.com  Thu Feb 17 18:46:30 2005
From: torsten.becker at gmail.com (Torsten Becker)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 19:46:30 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:43 (+0100), Fred B. wrote:
> After the small features request, here is a big one ;)
> I'm sure we talked about it here, but I don't remember if this is
> planned or not.
> 
> Actually, I use TextMate for everything text-related except one thing:
> comparing two document(Diff).
> Unfortunately I need this feature a lot. For me, this is "The Last Big
> Thing" that TM misses.
> 
> The best solution I found so far is to have a command launching
> TextWrangler to compare the active one and one I have to choose(w/Cocoa
> Dialog).
> 1) The way to launch this is a bit clumsy. (Having to navigate thru an
> "open" dialog)
> 2) Having TextWrangler opened just for that sucks a bit.
> 3) Having to edit the files in TW really sucks. I miss all the TM
> goodness and It makes me feels I'm back in time. ;)
> (And worst of all, I use TM shortcuts all the time and wonder why my
> commands, snippets, etc. don't work 8-| )
> 4) This doesn't work with remote files, or I have to open them in TW.
> Meaning changing the prefs of my SFTP client.
> 
> What I like in the "Compare two front documents" feature of TW:
> -The full screen is shared by the two docs with the Differences window
> under.
> -You can navigate easily thru the diffs.
> -Closing the Differences window brings the docs back where they were.
> -It exists. ;)
> You can even check differences of folders and batch files.
> 
> So, my question is:
> Do you plan to implement this in TM, Allan?
> If the answer is yes, any idea when we might expect this?
> 
> Meanwhile, does anybody have a better solution?
> 
> --
> Thanks

comparing files visually is possible, if you have beta 5 you can use
this command:
(its based on some of chris thomas' subversion commands)

> TMPFILE=`mktemp /tmp/tm-svn.XXXXXX` || exit 1
> mv "$TMPFILE" "$TMPFILE.diff"
> TMPFILE="$TMPFILE.diff"
> 
> ruby > "$TMPFILE" <   puts %x{diff -u $TM_SELECTED_FILES}
> END
> 
> open -a TextMate "$TMPFILE" &
Save: Nothing
Input: None
Output: Discard

you can select 2 files in the project drawer and after executing this
command a colored diff should pop up.


-- 
Torsten Becker


From rzigweid at zigweid.net  Thu Feb 17 18:44:29 2005
From: rzigweid at zigweid.net (Robert M.Zigweid)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:44:29 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <7fc9a9f6d8b556a1b81631ed029f9683@zigweid.net>

I pretty much agree with this, with a modification.  Firstly, I have no 
idea what TextWrangler is.  At least I don't see it on my systems.  
Secondly, rather than implementing a complete diff handler, what's 
wrong with opening the FileMerge application that is part of the OS X 
dev kit? (/Developer/Applications/Utilities/FileMerge.app)

Ideally, you'd be able to supply both 'files' to the program and when 
it's saved it'd drop the changes into the TextMate buffer.   I have no 
idea if this is possible or not with FileMerge, but it's a thought I 
wanted to throw out.

On Feb 17, 2005, at 10:43 AM, Fred B. wrote:

> After the small features request, here is a big one ;)
> I'm sure we talked about it here, but I don't remember if this is 
> planned or not.
>
> Actually, I use TextMate for everything text-related except one thing: 
> comparing two document(Diff).
> Unfortunately I need this feature a lot. For me, this is "The Last Big 
> Thing" that TM misses.
>
> The best solution I found so far is to have a command launching 
> TextWrangler to compare the active one and one I have to 
> choose(w/Cocoa Dialog).
> 1) The way to launch this is a bit clumsy. (Having to navigate thru an 
> "open" dialog)
> 2) Having TextWrangler opened just for that sucks a bit.
> 3) Having to edit the files in TW really sucks. I miss all the TM 
> goodness and It makes me feels I'm back in time. ;)
> (And worst of all, I use TM shortcuts all the time and wonder why my 
> commands, snippets, etc. don't work 8-| )
> 4) This doesn't work with remote files, or I have to open them in TW. 
> Meaning changing the prefs of my SFTP client.
>
> What I like in the "Compare two front documents" feature of TW:
> -The full screen is shared by the two docs with the Differences window 
> under.
> -You can navigate easily thru the diffs.
> -Closing the Differences window brings the docs back where they were.
> -It exists. ;)
> You can even check differences of folders and batch files.
>
> So, my question is:
> Do you plan to implement this in TM, Allan?
> If the answer is yes, any idea when we might expect this?
>
> Meanwhile, does anybody have a better solution?
>
> --
> Thanks
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>
-- 
Robert M. Zigweid                           rzigweid at zigweid.net
                                             http://rzigweid.zigweid.net

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From simon at helvector.org  Thu Feb 17 18:56:35 2005
From: simon at helvector.org (Simon Gregory)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:56:35 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] [Feature Request] Shift + Delete to delete to the right of
	cursor.
In-Reply-To: <89AF23DE-8112-11D9-AA57-000A95B635C0@langriley.com>
References: <1bacee20050217093663184f10@mail.gmail.com>
	<89AF23DE-8112-11D9-AA57-000A95B635C0@langriley.com>
Message-ID: 

On 17 Feb 2005, at 6:34 pm, Lang Riley wrote:

> Ctl-delete will do what you want

On my powerbook  fn-delete works where ctrl-delete doesn't. I've just 
noticed alt-delete deletes back a word and fn-alt-delete deletes 
forward a word.



From victor.tolbert at gmail.com  Thu Feb 17 19:28:50 2005
From: victor.tolbert at gmail.com (Vick Nice)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:28:50 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] [Feature Request] Shift + Delete to delete to the right of
	cursor.
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1bacee20050217093663184f10@mail.gmail.com>
	<89AF23DE-8112-11D9-AA57-000A95B635C0@langriley.com>
	
Message-ID: <1bacee20050217112868bf01a6@mail.gmail.com>

 > > Ctl-delete will do what you want
> 
> On my powerbook  fn-delete works where ctrl-delete doesn't. I've just
> noticed alt-delete deletes back a word and fn-alt-delete deletes
> forward a word.

Yeah...  on my powerbook, fn-delete does it.


From cruzin at gmail.com  Thu Feb 17 19:36:59 2005
From: cruzin at gmail.com (Chris Ruzin)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:36:59 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Re: Transmit 3
References: 
Message-ID: 

Mr. Robert Ullrey wrote:

> FYI: Panic software's Transmit 3 has been released with support for
> TextMate. 

Great!  Only a couple days after I bought a license for YummyFTP too. :/ 
Transmit 3 looks amazing so far.  It looks like I'm going to be upgrading
soon.



From victor.tolbert at gmail.com  Thu Feb 17 19:55:19 2005
From: victor.tolbert at gmail.com (Vick Nice)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:55:19 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Small feature request: transpose two characters
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20050217084209.GA13043@tara.freenix.org>
	
	<6d73b5cd6dedfff59573de24fad12098@bravo5.org>
	<5f9fb0c1bf8e33153cde160ea236b06a@tomster.org>
	
	
	
Message-ID: <1bacee20050217115562e3664f@mail.gmail.com>

This doesn't work for me. Control-T on my powerbook opens up Terminal for me. 

I've checked the commands and macros to see if something was assigned.
There wasn't anything assigned.


From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Thu Feb 17 20:38:14 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:38:14 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
Message-ID: 

At 7:46 PM +0100 2/17/05, Torsten Becker wrote:
>you can select 2 files in the project drawer and after executing this
>command a colored diff should pop up.

I bet someone enterprising, and with more time than me could:

1. ramp up Torsten's command to output hyperlinked diffs, so clicking 
on the diff jumps to the appropriate document and line;

2. (less obvious) use Applescript to move the two original windows 
side by side and put the diff output in a lower window.

- Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Thu Feb 17 20:39:11 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:39:11 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] [Feature Request] Shift + Delete to delete to the
	right of 	cursor.
In-Reply-To: <1bacee20050217112868bf01a6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1bacee20050217093663184f10@mail.gmail.com>
	<89AF23DE-8112-11D9-AA57-000A95B635C0@langriley.com>
	
	<1bacee20050217112868bf01a6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

At 2:28 PM -0500 2/17/05, Vick Nice wrote:
>  > On my powerbook  fn-delete works where ctrl-delete doesn't. I've just
>>  noticed alt-delete deletes back a word and fn-alt-delete deletes
>>  forward a word.
>
>Yeah...  on my powerbook, fn-delete does it.

You can try uControl if you like Shift-Del better (I do). It also has 
some bonus features, like having a key turn the mouse into a 
scroller...

- Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From cryo at cyanite.org  Thu Feb 17 20:48:33 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:48:33 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: <7fc9a9f6d8b556a1b81631ed029f9683@zigweid.net>
References: 
	<7fc9a9f6d8b556a1b81631ed029f9683@zigweid.net>
Message-ID: <5789a6b43fd6c05704aa6a996c88c3ea@cyanite.org>

On 17. feb 2005, at 19:44, Robert M.Zigweid wrote:

> I pretty much agree with this, with a modification.  Firstly, I have 
> no idea what TextWrangler is.

That would be "BBEdit Lite", their free version. As bad as the full 
version ;-).

-- 
Sune    ::    http://cyanite.org/
     "And now there is merely silence, silence,
         silence, saying all we did not know."



From ecurtis at rgbdesignstudio.com  Thu Feb 17 21:35:09 2005
From: ecurtis at rgbdesignstudio.com (Eric Curtis)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:35:09 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Re: Transmit 3
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
Message-ID: <832a17326d1a2648dd0c699d3f77d1f8@rgbdesignstudio.com>

> Great!  Only a couple days after I bought a license for YummyFTP too. 
> :/
> Transmit 3 looks amazing so far.  It looks like I'm going to be 
> upgrading
> soon.

As someone that has owned and used Yummy for a while now I can give you 
a little encouragement:

1. I think that most of the new features of  Transmit were already in 
Yummy! The only thing that jumps out as not is the tabs.

2. Yummy is being activly developed with betas put out so have no fears 
about it falling behind. It is a great product and also works with 
textmate. In fact I have both Yummy(local and remote) and Path Finder 
set so that if I hit Command-B it opens in texmate.

Sincerely,

Eric C



From richard at sunsetandlabrea.com  Thu Feb 17 21:59:08 2005
From: richard at sunsetandlabrea.com (Richard Chamberlain)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:59:08 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Opening S/FTP files in tabs
Message-ID: 

Hello,

Is there a way of opening files I load via Transmit into a new tab?

If I download a file now each one opens in a new window.

Many thanks,

Richard



From james at grayproductions.net  Thu Feb 17 22:44:17 2005
From: james at grayproductions.net (James Edward Gray II)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:44:17 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Automating { ... } to do ... end
Message-ID: <1233bc023a139a70c3d425f643b07c4a@grayproductions.net>

I want to build a command, macro or whatever to have TextMate do a 
chore for me.  I've taken a couple of passes at it, but I'm not having 
much luck yet and could use a little help.

I have many snippets that help me quickly build Ruby iterators.  Here's 
the one for each():

.each { |${1:e}| ${1:e}.$0 }

So when I run that I get:

.each { |e| e. }

When those are getting longish, I break them up over multiple lines, 
but I switch { ... } to do ... end.  So I want to change the above to:

.each do |e|
	e.
end

I was trying to do this with a command, but it proved harder than I 
expected.  Any tips are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

James Edward Gray II



From fredb7 at starflam.com  Thu Feb 17 23:24:07 2005
From: fredb7 at starflam.com (Fred B.)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 00:24:07 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Automating { ... } to do ... end
In-Reply-To: <1233bc023a139a70c3d425f643b07c4a@grayproductions.net>
References: <1233bc023a139a70c3d425f643b07c4a@grayproductions.net>
Message-ID: <8008e62f7cb9b3e2fdcf11cacb99e477@starflam.com>


On 17 f?vr. 05, at 23:44, James Edward Gray II wrote:

> I want to build a command, macro or whatever to have TextMate do a 
> chore for me.  I've taken a couple of passes at it, but I'm not having 
> much luck yet and could use a little help.
>
> I have many snippets that help me quickly build Ruby iterators.  
> Here's the one for each():
>
> .each { |${1:e}| ${1:e}.$0 }
>
> So when I run that I get:
>
> .each { |e| e. }
>
> When those are getting longish, I break them up over multiple lines, 
> but I switch { ... } to do ... end.  So I want to change the above to:
>
> .each do |e|
> 	e.
> end

Sorry if I'm missing something, but would this be ok for you?

each  |${1:element}| do
	${1:element}.$0
end

--
Fred


From fredb7 at starflam.com  Thu Feb 17 23:28:55 2005
From: fredb7 at starflam.com (Fred B.)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 00:28:55 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: <7fc9a9f6d8b556a1b81631ed029f9683@zigweid.net>
References: 
	<7fc9a9f6d8b556a1b81631ed029f9683@zigweid.net>
Message-ID: <58c6076fb97d1113d1a162d6a5a50fdd@starflam.com>


On 17 f?vr. 05, at 19:44, Robert M.Zigweid wrote:

> I Secondly, rather than implementing a complete diff handler, what's 
> wrong with opening the FileMerge application that is part of the OS X 
> dev kit? (/Developer/Applications/Utilities/FileMerge.app)

I already tried to convince myself that I could use FileMerge...
Filemerge's diff representation is cool, but it's almost impossible to 
do any edit there, as you have to make the edit in the 3rd "merge" 
panel and you can only save to one file (by merging to one of the 
file). I want to be able to edit both of them.
FM looks like a never finished product, IMHO.
So it's worst than using TW...

On 17 f?vr. 05, at 19:46, Torsten Becker wrote:

> comparing files visually is possible, if you have beta 5 you can use
> this command:
> (its based on some of chris thomas' subversion commands)

Yeah, but do you see the difference between this solution and BBEdit/TW 
or even FileMerge's one?
Even with links to the files as Eric Hsu proposed this would still not 
be as good as my actual solution.
It's much more easier to see the differences and edit them in the 
"real" files, with only an highlight of the selected difference, not 
all the "diff" messages.


On 17 f?vr. 05, at 21:48, Sune Foldager wrote:

> That would be "BBEdit Lite", their free version. As bad as the full 
> version ;-).

We're all here cause we prefer paying for TM than using TW for free, 
but BB/TW still have some feature no other editor on mac has.
Like.... a good diff feature? ;)

I maybe biased because I used BBEdit before TM, but comparing two docs 
easily is something I'm used to.


From chris at m-audio.com  Thu Feb 17 23:49:08 2005
From: chris at m-audio.com (Chris Thomas)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:49:08 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Automating { ... } to do ... end
In-Reply-To: <8008e62f7cb9b3e2fdcf11cacb99e477@starflam.com>
References: <1233bc023a139a70c3d425f643b07c4a@grayproductions.net>
	<8008e62f7cb9b3e2fdcf11cacb99e477@starflam.com>
Message-ID: <32309476-D663-4CEF-924F-5E176E7B03D3@m-audio.com>


On Feb 17, 2005, at 3:24 PM, Fred B. wrote:

> On 17 f?vr. 05, at 23:44, James Edward Gray II wrote:
>> I want to build a command, macro or whatever to have TextMate do a 
>> chore for me.  I've taken a couple of passes at it, but I'm not 
>> having much luck yet and could use a little help.
>> I have many snippets that help me quickly build Ruby iterators.  
>> Here's the one for each():
>> .each { |${1:e}| ${1:e}.$0 }
>> So when I run that I get:
>> .each { |e| e. }
>> When those are getting longish, I break them up over multiple lines, 
>> but I switch { ... } to do ... end.  So I want to change the above 
>> to:
>> .each do |e|
>>     e.
>> end
> Sorry if I'm missing something, but would this be ok for you?
> each  |${1:element}| do
>     ${1:element}.$0
> end

I think Fred is looking for a command to transform the {..} form to the 
do..end form. This would be very  useful to me too. It requires using 
macros, though. Here's a version that does everything except position 
the cursor in the block.

Chris
  
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From chris at m-audio.com  Fri Feb 18 00:10:42 2005
From: chris at m-audio.com (Chris Thomas)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:10:42 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Automating { ... } to do ... end
In-Reply-To: <32309476-D663-4CEF-924F-5E176E7B03D3@m-audio.com>
References: <1233bc023a139a70c3d425f643b07c4a@grayproductions.net>
	<8008e62f7cb9b3e2fdcf11cacb99e477@starflam.com>
	<32309476-D663-4CEF-924F-5E176E7B03D3@m-audio.com>
Message-ID: <473650C9-981F-4F2A-85A3-F7C5AE6600E2@m-audio.com>


On Feb 17, 2005, at 3:49 PM, Chris Thomas wrote:

> On Feb 17, 2005, at 3:24 PM, Fred B. wrote:
>> On 17 f?vr. 05, at 23:44, James Edward Gray II wrote:
>>> I want to build a command, macro or whatever to have TextMate do a 
>>> chore for me. I've taken a couple of passes at it, but I'm not 
>>> having much luck yet and could use a little help.
>>> I have many snippets that help me quickly build Ruby iterators.  
>>> Here's the one for each():
>>> .each { |${1:e}| ${1:e}.$0 }
>>> So when I run that I get:
>>> .each { |e| e. }
>>> When those are getting longish, I break them up over multiple lines, 
>>> but I switch { ... } to do ... end.  So I want to change the above 
>>> to:
>>> .each do |e|
>>>     e.
>>> end
>> Sorry if I'm missing something, but would this be ok for you?
>> each  |${1:element}| do
>>     ${1:element}.$0
>> end
> I think Fred is looking for a command to transform the {..} form to 
> the do..end form. This would be very
           ^^^^ James. Sorry.

> useful to me too. It requires using macros, though. Here's a version 
> that does everything except position the cursor in the block.
> Chris
>
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate



From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Fri Feb 18 00:15:56 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:15:56 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: <58c6076fb97d1113d1a162d6a5a50fdd@starflam.com>
References: 
	<7fc9a9f6d8b556a1b81631ed029f9683@zigweid.net>
	<58c6076fb97d1113d1a162d6a5a50fdd@starflam.com>
Message-ID: 

At 12:28 AM +0100 2/18/05, Fred B. wrote:
>Yeah, but do you see the difference between this solution and 
>BBEdit/TW or even FileMerge's one?
>Even with links to the files as Eric Hsu proposed this would still 
>not be as good as my actual solution.
>It's much more easier to see the differences and edit them in the 
>"real" files, with only an highlight of the selected difference, not 
>all the "diff" messages.

I think this might be possible if Allan added a feature to txmt:// 
that allowed one to not only jump to a line and character, but also 
to select a range.  And better yet, allow a URL to call a command. 
But this is probably a few versions down the road.

By the way, I do think BBEdit's diff is pretty good (I bought it a 
few versions back), possibly their best feature. I think that and 
Palettes are the main features distinguishing it from TM at the 
moment.

- Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From factoryjoe at factorycity.net  Fri Feb 18 00:53:14 2005
From: factoryjoe at factorycity.net (Chris Messina)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:53:14 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] TextMate: Extension Pack
Message-ID: <42153C7A.2080504@factorycity.net>

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From ben at incomumdesign.com  Fri Feb 18 02:36:07 2005
From: ben at incomumdesign.com (Ben Jackson)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 00:36:07 -0200
Subject: [TxMt] File Register
Message-ID: <42155497.5050408@incomumdesign.com>

Does the file register only accept paths with ":" as a delimeter? I'm 
putting together an Actionscript "Test Movie" command for an MTASC 
Bundle, and the file paths aren't working for it. I suspect this might 
be the problem. Any ideas?

-- 
Ben Jackson
Diretor de Desenvolvimento
INCOMUM Design & Conceito

+55 (21) 9127-2819
ben at incomumdesign.com
http://www.incomumdesign.com



From ben at incomumdesign.com  Fri Feb 18 02:57:18 2005
From: ben at incomumdesign.com (Ben Jackson)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 00:57:18 -0200
Subject: [TxMt] Bug: quote highlighting
Message-ID: <4215598E.5040605@incomumdesign.com>

Any instance of single-quote-double-quote-single-quote (as in the 
character representation of double-quote) will break the string parsing 
engine.

Example:
while(expr.charAt(j) != '"' && expr.charAt(j) != "'" && j
References: <20050218005814.DAE0216D5@one.textdrive.com>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 17, 2005, at 6:58 PM, Fred B. wrote:

> On 17 f?vr. 05, at 23:44, James Edward Gray II wrote:
>
>> I want to build a command, macro or whatever to have TextMate do a
>> chore for me.  I've taken a couple of passes at it, but I'm not having
>> much luck yet and could use a little help.
>>
>> I have many snippets that help me quickly build Ruby iterators.
>> Here's the one for each():
>>
>> .each { |${1:e}| ${1:e}.$0 }
>>
>> So when I run that I get:
>>
>> .each { |e| e. }
>>
>> When those are getting longish, I break them up over multiple lines,
>> but I switch { ... } to do ... end.  So I want to change the above to:
>>
>> .each do |e|
>> 	e.
>> end
>
> Sorry if I'm missing something, but would this be ok for you?
>
> each  |${1:element}| do
> 	${1:element}.$0
> end

That is an option, of course.  However, it requires me to double the 
number of iterator snippets, differentiate the keystrokes for them and 
select the right one before I get into writing it.  I was looking for 
something better.

I'll take a glance at Chris' macro tomorrow and see if it gets me 
there.  Thanks to you both.

James Edward Gray II



From ryan at stickystyle.net  Fri Feb 18 07:09:42 2005
From: ryan at stickystyle.net (Ryan Parrish)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 23:09:42 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Textmate Crash
In-Reply-To: <6681de3f564f9bc71ac9ff0de50e2ab3@macromates.com>
References: <4212DC61.5080000@stickystyle.net>	<5b6ee9045a152ade729681df922d2c49@macromates.com>	<421367CA.1090402@stickystyle.net>
	<6681de3f564f9bc71ac9ff0de50e2ab3@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <421594B6.1050307@stickystyle.net>

I just tried creating a new account and launching textmate, still the 
same result :-(


Allan Odgaard wrote:
> On Feb 16, 2005, at 16:33, Ryan Parrish wrote:
> 
>> This is the one i was referencing, although reading it more careful it 
>> sounds like it doest start at all for him.  Where mine starts for a 
>> few seconds, then quits.
> 
> 
> Ah, that was a problem with b9 which was zero-linked.
> 
> I'd suggest creating a new user account (System Preferences / Accounts) 
> and try to start it when logged into that account. I'm 95% sure that the 
> problem has to do with an incompatibility with another application, 
> since this is the first I hear of it (besides the CocoaASpell problem).
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate


From ryan at stickystyle.net  Fri Feb 18 07:11:45 2005
From: ryan at stickystyle.net (Ryan Parrish)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 23:11:45 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Textmate Crash
In-Reply-To: <4a6a2d272242657eff81fad0677f2f46@macromates.com>
References: <4212DC61.5080000@stickystyle.net>	<5b6ee9045a152ade729681df922d2c49@macromates.com>	<421367CA.1090402@stickystyle.net>	<50eaa995a861cc7b8878308f18e6af7e@poellath.org>	<42136A15.70600@stickystyle.net>
	<4a6a2d272242657eff81fad0677f2f46@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <42159531.8030008@stickystyle.net>

All the console.app is telling me is where the crash log is being 
written to sadly enough.


Allan Odgaard wrote:
> On Feb 16, 2005, at 16:43, Ryan Parrish wrote:
> 
>> Yes, it has the same information as what i posted in the first 
>> message.  With the exception of being an on going log of each crash.
> 
> 
> There's also /Application/Utilities/Console.app that shows the system 
> log, I think that was what he referred to.
> 
> If it was e.g. a missing framework or similar, it would be written 
> there, but not be present in the crash log.
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate


From textmate at aerodynamite.net  Fri Feb 18 09:32:12 2005
From: textmate at aerodynamite.net (tim)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:32:12 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Latex in Beta 5
Message-ID: <8b10e9ba122c024a3e37cc3e7dfdc33c@aerodynamite.net>

Allan Odgaard wrote:

> Two? In the bundle editor?
> My TextMate only has one. If you have a local bundle it should merge
> these based on the uuid found in the info.plist file contained in the
> bundle.


I think it's because I changed the PDFLatex command, as per Sune's 
instructions. So I have LaTeX, the standard bundle, and Latex, with 
just my altered command (different UUIDs).

Would that cause it?



From textmate at aerodynamite.net  Fri Feb 18 09:36:24 2005
From: textmate at aerodynamite.net (tim)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:36:24 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Automating { ... } to do ... end
Message-ID: <06a0bd455e6646a27642dd6289ecd922@aerodynamite.net>

Chris Thomas wrote:

> Here's a version that does everything except position the cursor in 
> the block.


Here's one that does, for me at least :)

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From textmate at aerodynamite.net  Fri Feb 18 09:43:04 2005
From: textmate at aerodynamite.net (tim)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:43:04 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] req: ignoring languages in the syntax list
Message-ID: <0705522d45c262af6d264477a1c4f4aa@aerodynamite.net>

I don't use many of the languages TM supports, so in the bundle editor 
I have them filtered out. However, in the "Syntax Highlight as..." 
menu, it still lists them all (past the edge of my small screen). 
Please could this be changed to match the bundle editor so I can, in 
effect, ignore the bundles I don't use, whilst still having them on 
disk. Or is there a better way of doing this?

Thanks.



From list at redry.net  Fri Feb 18 09:59:23 2005
From: list at redry.net (eoghan)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:59:23 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] outlining braces
Message-ID: <4215BC7B.30601@redry.net>

Hi
Would it be possible in future versions for braces to be outlined, like:
{

}

if i select/go to the closing brace the opening brace row would be 
outlined indicating its the opening one to me. Would also work for () 
and markup.
Thanks
Eoghan


From dev at yummysoftware.com  Fri Feb 18 12:09:32 2005
From: dev at yummysoftware.com (Developer Relations)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:09:32 GMT
Subject: [TxMt] Re: Transmit 3
Message-ID: <200502181209.j1IC9WN19143@squirtle.joshuainternet.net>

Thanks for your support, Eric and Chris ( I think... ;-) )

As Eric said, we're working on new things for Yummy right now. Things that Transmit doesn't 
have and things that Transmit does have. Of the latter, DockSend is one of the simplest to 
add and will be in the next update. Tabs will take a bit more work, but they will come and in 
the meantime Yummy will have stuff they don't. And we won't be charging $18 to 
upgrade.. ever.

Cheers,
Jason

> > Great!  Only a couple days after I bought a license for YummyFTP too. 
> > :/
> > Transmit 3 looks amazing so far.  It looks like I'm going to be 
> > upgrading
> > soon.
> 
> As someone that has owned and used Yummy for a while now I can give you 
> a little encouragement:
> 
> 1. I think that most of the new features of  Transmit were already in 
> Yummy! The only thing that jumps out as not is the tabs.
> 
> 2. Yummy is being activly developed with betas put out so have no fears 
> about it falling behind. It is a great product and also works with 
> textmate. In fact I have both Yummy(local and remote) and Path Finder 
> set so that if I hit Command-B it opens in texmate.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Eric C
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
> 
> 

Jason Downing 
---------------------------------- 
Yummy Software 

Software so good you could eat it. Yum! 
www.yummysoftware.com 
---------------------------------- 


From cryo at cyanite.org  Fri Feb 18 12:20:21 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:20:21 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Latex in Beta 5
In-Reply-To: <8b10e9ba122c024a3e37cc3e7dfdc33c@aerodynamite.net>
References: <8b10e9ba122c024a3e37cc3e7dfdc33c@aerodynamite.net>
Message-ID: 

On 18. feb 2005, at 10:32, tim wrote:

> I think it's because I changed the PDFLatex command, as per Sune's 
> instructions. So I have LaTeX, the standard bundle, and Latex, with 
> just my altered command (different UUIDs).
> Would that cause it?

Hmm.. it really shouldn't. I've had the same problem before, with a 
LaTeX and a Latex... maybe remains from a previous version? By the way, 
I put those fixed to the latex commands in the repos so they should 
make the next beta.

-- 
Sune    ::    http://cyanite.org/
     "And now there is merely silence, silence,
         silence, saying all we did not know."



From torsten.becker at gmail.com  Fri Feb 18 13:48:23 2005
From: torsten.becker at gmail.com (Torsten Becker)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:48:23 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Text zooming key combos
In-Reply-To: <21caa802de2a0a2631a2b49757742ec5@mac.com>
References: <21caa802de2a0a2631a2b49757742ec5@mac.com>
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:38 (+0100), Rich Barton wrote:
> The new text zoom feature is great, except that zooming in is literally
> bound to Command+`+` (that's command and the plus key). On PowerBooks
> and iBooks, `+` requires an extra modifier (shift), whereas `-`
> doesn't. Ideally, both would be consistent with one another.

Hmm, I have an iBook (12", G4) and it works for me.


-- 
Torsten Becker


From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 18 13:53:17 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:53:17 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] File Register
In-Reply-To: <42155497.5050408@incomumdesign.com>
References: <42155497.5050408@incomumdesign.com>
Message-ID: <2d4ab502d3ccd503ba2b6b5a67a28847@macromates.com>

On Feb 18, 2005, at 3:36, Ben Jackson wrote:

> Does the file register only accept paths with ":" as a delimeter? I'm 
> putting together an Actionscript "Test Movie" command for an MTASC 
> Bundle, and the file paths aren't working for it. I suspect this might 
> be the problem. Any ideas?

On the contrary, it wants ?/? in the paths.

Though if at all possible, I'd recommend using the HTML output window 
instead of the ?separate window?. I should get around to improve the 
latter, but currently the capabilities with HTML output are bigger, and 
it runs the command w/o stalling TextMate.



From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 18 13:54:40 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:54:40 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] outlining braces
In-Reply-To: <4215BC7B.30601@redry.net>
References: <4215BC7B.30601@redry.net>
Message-ID: <9b563b3ba5dc1dfb4b09acd1edbdbb4e@macromates.com>

On Feb 18, 2005, at 10:59, eoghan wrote:

> Would it be possible in future versions for braces to be outlined, 
> like:
> {
>
> }
>
> if i select/go to the closing brace the opening brace row would be 
> outlined indicating its the opening one to me. Would also work for () 
> and markup.

Not sure what it is you are requesting here!?! Do you want the entire 
line containing the opening brace to light up?



From torsten.becker at gmail.com  Fri Feb 18 13:56:26 2005
From: torsten.becker at gmail.com (Torsten Becker)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:56:26 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Opening S/FTP files in tabs
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:59 (+0000), Richard Chamberlain wrote:
> Is there a way of opening files I load via Transmit into a new tab?

AFAIK no, because to open files in tabs you have to start a project.


-- 
Torsten Becker


From list at redry.net  Fri Feb 18 14:03:05 2005
From: list at redry.net (eoghan)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:03:05 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] outlining braces
In-Reply-To: <9b563b3ba5dc1dfb4b09acd1edbdbb4e@macromates.com>
References: <4215BC7B.30601@redry.net>
	<9b563b3ba5dc1dfb4b09acd1edbdbb4e@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <4215F599.2080407@redry.net>

Allan Odgaard wrote:

> Not sure what it is you are requesting here!?! Do you want the entire 
> line containing the opening brace to light up?


Yep basically. I used to use jedit before i changed :)
This feature was very useful when youve got lots of open braces etc.
But when the cursor is at the { then it would show the matching } by 
outline that row.
Is this more clear?
Thanks
Eoghan


From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 18 14:16:23 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:16:23 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] req: ignoring languages in the syntax list
In-Reply-To: <0705522d45c262af6d264477a1c4f4aa@aerodynamite.net>
References: <0705522d45c262af6d264477a1c4f4aa@aerodynamite.net>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 18, 2005, at 10:43, tim wrote:

> I don't use many of the languages TM supports, so in the bundle editor 
> I have them filtered out. However, in the "Syntax Highlight as..." 
> menu, it still lists them all (past the edge of my small screen). 
> Please could this be changed to match the bundle editor so I can, in 
> effect, ignore the bundles I don't use, whilst still having them on 
> disk.

Yes, this is just functionality not done yet. I'm reworking the syntax 
(and probably also templates) for beta 6.



From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 18 14:17:05 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:17:05 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Small feature request: transpose two characters
In-Reply-To: <1bacee20050217115562e3664f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20050217084209.GA13043@tara.freenix.org>
	
	<6d73b5cd6dedfff59573de24fad12098@bravo5.org>
	<5f9fb0c1bf8e33153cde160ea236b06a@tomster.org>
	
	
	
	<1bacee20050217115562e3664f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <91cd0681fb3a0abac37f547ddf8754d3@macromates.com>

On Feb 17, 2005, at 20:55, Vick Nice wrote:

> This doesn't work for me. Control-T on my powerbook opens up Terminal 
> for me.
>
> I've checked the commands and macros to see if something was assigned.
> There wasn't anything assigned.

I'm quite sure that this binding exists outside TextMate.



From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 18 14:19:53 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:19:53 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Latex in Beta 5
In-Reply-To: 
References: <8b10e9ba122c024a3e37cc3e7dfdc33c@aerodynamite.net>
	
Message-ID: <630e4e70d5d4c022526713e6918ca3f6@macromates.com>

On Feb 18, 2005, at 13:20, Sune Foldager wrote:

>> I think it's because I changed the PDFLatex command [...]
> Hmm.. it really shouldn't. I've had the same problem before, with a 
> LaTeX and a Latex... maybe remains from a previous version?

Yes, I hope/think that as well. Unique IDs weren't introduced until 
recently, so if you had old changed defaults, these may not have been 
recognized correctly -- I did try to make it assign UUID's to custom 
items based on the name, in case the custom item lacked one. But if the 
default and custom LaTeX bundle had different casing, that's probably 
why it didn't recognize them as the same.

If there are any future problems with double items or similar, let me 
know.



From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 18 14:22:29 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:22:29 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Bug: quote highlighting
In-Reply-To: <4215598E.5040605@incomumdesign.com>
References: <4215598E.5040605@incomumdesign.com>
Message-ID: <7b389d7f9fca4ab5072485a01f87ceb5@macromates.com>

On Feb 18, 2005, at 3:57, Ben Jackson wrote:

> Any instance of single-quote-double-quote-single-quote (as in the 
> character representation of double-quote) will break the string 
> parsing engine.

Which string parsing engine is that?

Syntax highlight, smart-typing or highlighting pairs?

I think it may break the latter, but I didn't make [single] quotes 
highlighted in any of the bundles I touched.



From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 18 14:27:24 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:27:24 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Textmate Crash
In-Reply-To: <42159531.8030008@stickystyle.net>
References: <4212DC61.5080000@stickystyle.net>	<5b6ee9045a152ade729681df922d2c49@macromates.com>	<421367CA.1090402@stickystyle.net>	<50eaa995a861cc7b8878308f18e6af7e@poellath.org>	<42136A15.70600@stickystyle.net>
	<4a6a2d272242657eff81fad0677f2f46@macromates.com>
	<42159531.8030008@stickystyle.net>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 18, 2005, at 8:11, Ryan Parrish wrote:

> All the console.app is telling me is where the crash log is being 
> written to sadly enough.

This is indeed very strange. What adds to this is, that the crash log 
you sent had no stack trace. Normally the crash log contains a stack 
trace so that one can see which functions were involved in the crash, 
but that part was empty in your crash log, somehow indicating that 
TextMate didn't even run when the crash happened.



From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 18 14:29:55 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:29:55 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] [Feature Request] Shift + Delete to delete to the right of
	cursor.
In-Reply-To: <1bacee20050217093663184f10@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1bacee20050217093663184f10@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 17, 2005, at 18:36, Vick Nice wrote:

> I've kinda grown accustomed to pressing Shift + Delete to delete to
> the right of cursor. Any chance of this being added to Textmate?   Is
> it something I can add myself?

You can add it yourself -- if this is something you're accustomed to 
then you may want to make the change for your entire system. Checkout 
Help / Key Bindings for pointers.

Though I'd say, learning the standard Mac key bindings does have 
advantages in the long run :)



From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 18 14:35:15 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:35:15 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <476da60b823e213ef98a70122fe1f128@macromates.com>

On Feb 17, 2005, at 16:43, Fred B. wrote:

> Actually, I use TextMate for everything text-related except one thing: 
> comparing two document(Diff).
> Unfortunately I need this feature a lot. For me, this is "The Last Big 
> Thing" that TM misses.
>
> [...] So, my question is:
> Do you plan to implement this in TM, Allan?
> If the answer is yes, any idea when we might expect this?

I must confess that I do not fully understand why a diff tool needs to 
be built into a text editor. Was it the missing ability to edit the 
merged file in File Merge that made this tool unusable?

At present time I have no plans of adding this feature mainly because 
a) I haven't fully understood the need to have it built in (i.e. a 
third party could write the tool if e.g. File Merge isn't sufficient) 
and b) there are many pending things that needs to built in (i.e. a 
third party cannot supply these things), so these have higher priority.

But I do see several people mention the diff thing, so it's not out of 
the question that I may see the advantages of having it built in, but 
then we're talking 1.3.



From fintel at gmail.com  Fri Feb 18 14:52:14 2005
From: fintel at gmail.com (Kai von Fintel)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:52:14 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: <476da60b823e213ef98a70122fe1f128@macromates.com>
References: 
	<476da60b823e213ef98a70122fe1f128@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <6e90e62105021806526d819208@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:35:15 +0100, Allan Odgaard  wrote:
> I must confess that I do not fully understand why a diff tool needs to
> be built into a text editor. Was it the missing ability to edit the
> merged file in File Merge that made this tool unusable?

I guess you would have to have used the BBEdit file differences tool
to appreciate how useful it is. Many times, I find myself trying to
adjudicate differences between two text files (say a weblog config
file on my server with a new config file included in an updated of the
blog software), etc. This is when I need to call on BBEdit. I haven't
tried File Merge.

-- Kai.


From richard at sunsetandlabrea.com  Fri Feb 18 14:53:30 2005
From: richard at sunsetandlabrea.com (Richard Chamberlain)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:53:30 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Opening S/FTP files in tabs
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
Message-ID: 


On 18 Feb 2005, at 13:56, Torsten Becker wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:59 (+0000), Richard Chamberlain wrote:
>> Is there a way of opening files I load via Transmit into a new tab?
>
> AFAIK no, because to open files in tabs you have to start a project.

Thanks,  that is a bit of a shame.

Cheers,

Richard



From simon at helvector.org  Fri Feb 18 14:54:57 2005
From: simon at helvector.org (Simon Gregory)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:54:57 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Bug: quote highlighting
In-Reply-To: <7b389d7f9fca4ab5072485a01f87ceb5@macromates.com>
References: <4215598E.5040605@incomumdesign.com>
	<7b389d7f9fca4ab5072485a01f87ceb5@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <38067677264638ad08786eeac81934eb@helvector.org>

On 18 Feb 2005, at 2:22 pm, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> Which string parsing engine is that?
> Syntax highlight, smart-typing or highlighting pairs?
> I think it may break the latter, but I didn't make [single] quotes 
> highlighted in any of the bundles I touched.

The problem looks to in the ActionScript Syntax file, the single quotes 
weren't escaped.

On Feb 18, 2005, at 3:57, Ben Jackson wrote:

> Any instance of single-quote-double-quote-single-quote (as in the 
> character representation of double-quote) will break the string 
> parsing engine.

Ben if you want an immediate resolution the edit the 
ActionScript.tmbundle/Syntaxes/ActionScript.plist file and change line 
26 from:

{ name = "strings.single-quoted.actionscript"; begin = "'"; end = "'"; 
swallow = "\\\\."; fontStyle = ( normal ); foregroundColor = "#727272"; 
},

to

{ name = "strings.single-quoted.actionscript"; begin = "\'"; end = 
"\'"; swallow = "\\\\."; fontStyle = ( normal ); foregroundColor = 
"#727272"; },

It worked for me on your code example but I've not checked to see if 
it's thrown any other errors.

Hope this helps,

Simon



From robert_ullrey at mac.com  Fri Feb 18 14:58:25 2005
From: robert_ullrey at mac.com (Mr. Robert Ullrey)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 06:58:25 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Req: HTML Output navigation
Message-ID: 

I am using hyperref in a latex document which works great in TextMate,
especially with the HTML output. What is really nice is the ability to
check that the links are "hot".  However once I follow a link i have not
been able to find a "Back" command so i can check the next link. Am I
missing it? If not, could we have one? 

Thanks

Robert


From simon at helvector.org  Fri Feb 18 15:02:36 2005
From: simon at helvector.org (Simon Gregory)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:02:36 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Subversion Question
Message-ID: <1b1800d3ba8eccc45567fd6c03c675ca@helvector.org>

I'm looking for a way to have the commands the Subversion bundle 
execute without me having to edit them to include the full path for 
svn.

I initially thought that adding the following line to /etc/bashrc would 
do the trick

alias svn=/usr/local/bin/svn

unfortunately it didn't work. Would someone kindly point me in the 
right direction?

Thanks,
Simon



From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 18 15:04:25 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:04:25 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: HTML Output navigation
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <4c5acc6e54f1a5f03bab9f3958b5785f@macromates.com>

On Feb 18, 2005, at 15:58, Mr. Robert Ullrey wrote:

> I am using hyperref in a latex document which works great in TextMate,
> especially with the HTML output. What is really nice is the ability to
> check that the links are "hot".  However once I follow a link i have 
> not
> been able to find a "Back" command so i can check the next link. Am I
> missing it? If not, could we have one?

I can (should) add a back button to the HTML output (in a foldable 
toolbar). But I am not sure if this will work for PDF links.

If you open the PDF in e.g. Safari and follow the links, does the back 
button work there for PDF then?



From torsten.becker at gmail.com  Fri Feb 18 15:08:09 2005
From: torsten.becker at gmail.com (Torsten Becker)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:08:09 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Subversion Question
In-Reply-To: <1b1800d3ba8eccc45567fd6c03c675ca@helvector.org>
References: <1b1800d3ba8eccc45567fd6c03c675ca@helvector.org>
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:02 (+0000), Simon Gregory wrote:
> I'm looking for a way to have the commands the Subversion bundle
> execute without me having to edit them to include the full path for
> svn.

It should work if you set the TM_SVN variable via the global TM prefs
or the per project prefs to this path.

-- 
Torsten Becker


From torsten.becker at gmail.com  Fri Feb 18 15:14:26 2005
From: torsten.becker at gmail.com (Torsten Becker)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:14:26 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] outlining braces
In-Reply-To: <4215BC7B.30601@redry.net>
References: <4215BC7B.30601@redry.net>
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:59 (+0000), eoghan wrote:
> Hi
> Would it be possible in future versions for braces to be outlined, like:
> {
> 
> }

Hi, I would like to see something similar, I am not sure if its the
same as yours but I will repeat it, maybe its what you also want.

I BTW requested this back in december
(http://one.textdrive.com/pipermail/textmate/2004-December/001713.html)
but it seemes nobody did read it. :>

So what I would like to see is this behavior:
When you have a smart typing pair and place the cursor behind or
before on of its parts TM should highlight the opposing part in a
different color. (color should be adjustable)

This would solve the problem I have ATM, because I don't like it to
move the cursor back and forward always to see the other end.

If it gets implemented this way one also could find the other part if
its far more down than the current page is height because the
highlight would be shown because of the cursors position and not its
movement.

I know that this probably could make some work but I really would like
to see it this way because I nearly never use the current
implementation and think highlighting would be a nice thing.


-- 
Torsten Becker


From torsten.becker at gmail.com  Fri Feb 18 15:16:35 2005
From: torsten.becker at gmail.com (Torsten Becker)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:16:35 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Small feature request: Show full path of file somewhere
In-Reply-To: <6be1e827ff608b47b8f20125e4972474@highteq.net>
References: <6be1e827ff608b47b8f20125e4972474@highteq.net>
Message-ID: 

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:35 (+0100), Lars Hoss wrote:
> Would it be possible to show the full path of a file somewhere, for
> example in the title bar? Currently it's not easy to keep apart two
> files with the same name but different locations.

Just as a suggestion: Why not show it like the 'Open Recent' Menu does it?
http://members.lycos.co.uk/staff/tm/open_recent_with_folder.jpg

-- 
Torsten Becker


From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 18 15:28:54 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:28:54 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] outlining braces
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4215BC7B.30601@redry.net>
	
Message-ID: <54ddc2ca2e935f67f2215b0b19ff05ee@macromates.com>

On Feb 18, 2005, at 16:14, Torsten Becker wrote:

> So what I would like to see is this behavior:
> When you have a smart typing pair and place the cursor behind or
> before on of its parts TM should highlight the opposing part in a
> different color. (color should be adjustable)
>
> This would solve the problem I have ATM, because I don't like it to
> move the cursor back and forward always to see the other end.

I actually read that and did think it was a good idea. But judging from 
the archive, I didn't reply... ;)

> I know that this probably could make some work but I really would like 
> to see it this way [...]

Currently I'm holding back on visual changes because I wish to change 
my entire rendering model.



From dperetti at lachoseinteractive.net  Fri Feb 18 15:42:36 2005
From: dperetti at lachoseinteractive.net (Dominique PERETTI)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:42:36 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Subversion Question
In-Reply-To: <1b1800d3ba8eccc45567fd6c03c675ca@helvector.org>
References: <1b1800d3ba8eccc45567fd6c03c675ca@helvector.org>
Message-ID: <7eb694b3a700b7c535340a35ada888b7@lachoseinteractive.net>

set TM_SVN to /usr/local/bin/svn in Preferences > Advanced > Shell 
Variables.

Also check "svnX.app" out ;-)

Dom.

On 18 f?vr. 05, at 16:02, Simon Gregory wrote:

> I'm looking for a way to have the commands the Subversion bundle 
> execute without me having to edit them to include the full path for 
> svn.
>
> I initially thought that adding the following line to /etc/bashrc 
> would do the trick
>
> alias svn=/usr/local/bin/svn
>
> unfortunately it didn't work. Would someone kindly point me in the 
> right direction?
>
> Thanks,
> Simon
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate



From allan at macromates.com  Fri Feb 18 15:52:03 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:52:03 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Subversion Question
In-Reply-To: <1b1800d3ba8eccc45567fd6c03c675ca@helvector.org>
References: <1b1800d3ba8eccc45567fd6c03c675ca@helvector.org>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 18, 2005, at 16:02, Simon Gregory wrote:

> I initially thought that adding the following line to /etc/bashrc 
> would do the trick
>
> alias svn=/usr/local/bin/svn
>
> unfortunately it didn't work.

As others mentioned, there's the TM_SVN variable. But just for the 
records, by default (i.e. with the default BASH_ENV variable) TextMate 
will source /etc/profile. So if you want to make it work w/o changing 
stuff in TextMate, it is this file you should change.

And preferably you should just extend the path to /usr/local/bin. E.g. 
adding this line:

export PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/bin"



From fredb7 at starflam.com  Fri Feb 18 16:33:25 2005
From: fredb7 at starflam.com (Fred B.)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:33:25 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: <476da60b823e213ef98a70122fe1f128@macromates.com>
References: 
	<476da60b823e213ef98a70122fe1f128@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <869bbcb4f9731d780d36a1f1b7c13d8b@starflam.com>


On 18 f?vr. 05, at 15:35, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> I must confess that I do not fully understand why a diff tool needs to 
> be built into a text editor.

I must confess I don't fully understand how you can work without it ;)

And why in a text-editor? It's text and I want to edit it. I don't want 
to sound sarcastic, but it's as simple as that. It's a way to edit text 
I use really often.
How could I do? Open the docs in another app, compare docs, note the 
line where I want to apply changes, switch back to the editor, find the 
line, make the change, re-compare, and again? And if I want to "save 
as" , I have to reopen them in TM after... Wow.

I can hardly see how this could be somewhere else that in a text 
editor, in fact.

Maybe I'm missing something:
Don't you use diff at all?
Don't you want to edit the docs you're comparing?

I'm sorry to even write this, but did you try TextWrangler's "compare 
two front docs"?
And if you did, don't you see the advantages over other alternatives?

> Was it the missing ability to edit the merged file in File Merge that 
> made this tool unusable?

Yes. And in Filemerge, you can only apply edit to one file.
Plus FileMerge is far from being polished: It doesn't remember window 
position, you have to reopen the 3rd panel each time.
Scroll wheel just scroll horizontally, etc.

> At present time I have no plans of adding this feature mainly because 
> a) I haven't fully understood the need to have it built in (i.e. a 
> third party could write the tool if e.g. File Merge isn't sufficient) 
> and b) there are many pending things that needs to built in (i.e. a 
> third party cannot supply these things), so these have higher 
> priority.

The problem is the best tool I found to compare two docs in OS X is the 
free product of one of your direct competitor, the exact one I tried to 
escape by buying TM. You make me used to all the nice feature of TM, 
understand that I'm unhappy when I have to go back to another editor. 
;) I would be ok to buy a good diff tool ( it doesn't exists, AFAIK) 
but it's editing capabilities will surely suck compared to TM, or even 
to TW, which is free. As you can see in the list, people who used BB/TW 
before really liked this feature.

>
> But I do see several people mention the diff thing, so it's not out of 
> the question that I may see the advantages of having it built in, but 
> then we're talking 1.3.
>

Common' several people, stand up! ;)
Seriously, I understand you have to make choices to avoid TM being 
bloated, but I really hope you'll consider this one.
As I said, except for a better language/bundle integration, which I 
know you're working on, this is the last big thing missing in TM, for 
me.
SFTP could be nice too, but 99% of the time a 3rd party SFTP client can 
do the job.

Thanks for your time.

--
Fred



From robert_ullrey at mac.com  Fri Feb 18 17:05:32 2005
From: robert_ullrey at mac.com (Mr. Robert Ullrey)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:05:32 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Req: HTML Output navigation
In-Reply-To: <4c5acc6e54f1a5f03bab9f3958b5785f@macromates.com>
Message-ID: 


*********************************************************************
Allan Odgaard wrote on [Friday, February 18, 2005 +0100]


>     I can (should) add a back button to the HTML output
>     (in a foldable toolbar). But I am not sure if this
>     will work for PDF links.
> 
>     If you open the PDF in e.g. Safari and follow the
>     links, does the back button work there for PDF then?

Hi Allan, 
Yes. If I load the pdf in safari using Schubert's plug-in I can click a
link and then Command-[ to return, or click the back button. 


From robert_ullrey at mac.com  Fri Feb 18 17:18:20 2005
From: robert_ullrey at mac.com (Mr. Robert Ullrey)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:18:20 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Subversion Question
In-Reply-To: <7eb694b3a700b7c535340a35ada888b7@lachoseinteractive.net>
Message-ID: 

Thanks for the great tip. Very nice GUI svn program. 
For others interested, it is here:




*********************************************************************
Dominique PERETTI wrote on [Friday, February 18, 2005 +0100]


>   Also check "svnX.app" out ;-)


From chris at m-audio.com  Fri Feb 18 17:35:42 2005
From: chris at m-audio.com (Chris Thomas)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:35:42 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: <476da60b823e213ef98a70122fe1f128@macromates.com>
References: 
	<476da60b823e213ef98a70122fe1f128@macromates.com>
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From machinate at machinate.org  Fri Feb 18 17:52:13 2005
From: machinate at machinate.org (machinate at machinate.org)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:52:13 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] req: command output to contextual menu
Message-ID: 

Would it be possible to make a command output option that displays as a
menu. It would be like the current behaviour of commands, snippets etc that
have the same key command.

You could then have commands like 'ls $TM_FILEPATH', and choose from the
list. 

Max Williams




From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Fri Feb 18 18:26:59 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:26:59 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: <869bbcb4f9731d780d36a1f1b7c13d8b@starflam.com>
References: 
	<476da60b823e213ef98a70122fe1f128@macromates.com>
	<869bbcb4f9731d780d36a1f1b7c13d8b@starflam.com>
Message-ID: 

At 5:33 PM +0100 2/18/05, Fred B. wrote:
>>But I do see several people mention the diff thing, so it's not out 
>>of the question that I may see the advantages of having it built 
>>in, but then we're talking 1.3.
>
>Common' several people, stand up! ;)

As one who spoke in appreciation of BBEdit's diff, I think it should 
*not* be a priority for Allan.   Sorry. :)

I personally prefer that he works on providing infrastructure that 
can support add-on work by procrastinators like the current bunch of 
bundle writers.  I would rather he work on exposing some of the power 
that might lead to someone else writing a good version of the diff 
and that would be good for other stuff (like letting commands/urls 
select-highlight text; letting urls call commands, etc.).

I'm curious now how diff fits in your workflow.  Are you constantly 
comparing to previous versions? I use diff maybe a couple times a 
week when I can't tell the difference between two similar files.  If 
diff were the most important thing to me, I might have stayed with 
BB.  Maybe you should install svn and use the svn bundle, which I 
might add looks great.

Chris Thomas writes:
>BBEdit's diff implementation is about the least UI work you can do 
>and still claim to have a diff feature.

I don't think that's completely fair. After all, Torsten's quick hack 
gives diff, but has less effect.

>In BBEdit, you have two normal document windows placed side-by-side, 
>and below them, you have this custom window... This window provides 
>all of the diff logic (from a UI perspective). There isn't even 
>unique graphics or interaction in the source windows, it just 
>selects the differences using the normal selection mechanism.

>With just a few TM callbacks exposed, we could duplicate this 
>functionality via scripting.

I agree, this is what I meant by 'infrastructure' above.  And the 
callbacks would be very helpful for other causes as well.  For 
instance, if a command could output highlighted text (not sure what 
interface format, but let's pretend), then one could also quickly 
write a language-sensitive "highlight text out to the nearest braces" 
command.

>A better implementation would provide a modern, polished version of 
>FileMerge's view. That would almost certainly require Objective-C 
>(or F-script) plugins if done by a third-party, though.

That would be really neat. FileMerge looks pretty great. It isn't too 
fun to edit with though.

best wishes, Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From nednieuws at gmail.com  Fri Feb 18 18:29:29 2005
From: nednieuws at gmail.com (Ned Nieuws)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:29:29 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: <869bbcb4f9731d780d36a1f1b7c13d8b@starflam.com>
References: 
	<476da60b823e213ef98a70122fe1f128@macromates.com>
	<869bbcb4f9731d780d36a1f1b7c13d8b@starflam.com>
Message-ID: <84b4388505021810292b4e6bbc@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:33:25 +0100, Fred B.  wrote:

> Common' several people, stand up! ;)

I'll stand next to you. A good diff is as necessary as a good editor.

-- 
Regards, Charles.


From chris at m-audio.com  Fri Feb 18 18:49:22 2005
From: chris at m-audio.com (Chris Thomas)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:49:22 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<476da60b823e213ef98a70122fe1f128@macromates.com>
	<869bbcb4f9731d780d36a1f1b7c13d8b@starflam.com>
	
Message-ID: <45BDA7FF-B089-4101-90D9-EBA2853B3F9A@m-audio.com>


On Feb 18, 2005, at 10:26 AM, Eric Hsu wrote:

>> BBEdit's diff implementation is about the least UI work you can do 
>> and still claim to have a diff feature.
>
> I don't think that's completely fair. After all, Torsten's quick hack 
> gives diff, but has less effect.

You are correct, of course. I meant "merge feature"... And it's still 
not completely fair, the MPW script implementation was more precisely 
the least amount of work you could do and still have a merge feature.

Chris



From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Fri Feb 18 19:18:09 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:18:09 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
Message-ID: 

Okay, so I'm trying to hack out a little diff command. I've run into 
a couple of peculiar behaviors I don't understand. They all must have 
obvious answers...

1. In my setup, a command of

>echo $TM_SELECTED_FILES | xargs diff -u

works but

>diff -u  $TM_SELECTED_FILES

does not. I get a "diff: file not found" error.


2.  I wanted to emulate the BBEdit feature of popping up a list of 
all open windows, but I saw no TM_OPEN_WINDOWS variable equivalent. I 
tried using Applescript to

>osascript -e 'tell app "TextMate.app" to return name of every window'

which worked great except for the lack of path information, and then I tried

>osascript -e 'tell app "TextMate.app" to return path of every window'

which seemed like the right thing to do, but gave me a

>34:38: execution error: TextMate got an error: 
>NSCannotCreateScriptCommandError (10)

Any thoughts?


best, Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From lists at visualchutzpah.com  Fri Feb 18 20:00:18 2005
From: lists at visualchutzpah.com (saul rosenbaum)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:00:18 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Simple Command to strip HTML tags
In-Reply-To: <4DDED28E-800E-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
References: <4DDED28E-800E-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
Message-ID: 

Howdy;
anyone have a command to strip HTML markup?
for selected text?

TIA

saul



From fredb7 at starflam.com  Fri Feb 18 20:10:48 2005
From: fredb7 at starflam.com (Fred B.)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 21:10:48 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<476da60b823e213ef98a70122fe1f128@macromates.com>
	<869bbcb4f9731d780d36a1f1b7c13d8b@starflam.com>
	
Message-ID: <4816ec2a688736f54ef03d6c57624ec5@starflam.com>


On 18 f?vr. 05, at 19:26, Eric Hsu wrote:

> As one who spoke in appreciation of BBEdit's diff, I think it should 
> *not* be a priority for Allan.   Sorry. :)

I never asked it to be in the next release, of course. An "it's on the 
bottom of the to-do list" would be a good start. ;)

> I personally prefer that he works on providing infrastructure that can 
> support add-on work by procrastinators like the current bunch of 
> bundle writers.  I would rather he work on exposing some of the power 
> that might lead to someone else writing a good version of the diff and 
> that would be good for other stuff (like letting commands/urls 
> select-highlight text; letting urls call commands, etc.).

Sometimes, my english is not good enough to express exactly what I 
mean, sorry, but be sure i'd prefer to see "some of the power that 
might lead to someone else writing a good version of the diff and that 
would be good for other stuff " too.
Change my request to "please, Allan, expose "some of the power, etc ". 
;)

> I'm curious now how diff fits in your workflow.  Are you constantly 
> comparing to previous versions? I use diff maybe a couple times a week 
> when I can't tell the difference between two similar files.  If diff 
> were the most important thing to me, I might have stayed with BB.  
> Maybe you should install svn and use the svn bundle, which I might add 
> looks great.

I work on a lot of very different things (music, cd/dvd authoring, 
video, writings, xhtml, css, Rails, Ruby, Xcode, etc.), so I often need 
to check what I've done on a project lately.
I already use svn and the svn bundle a lot, but :
- Not everything I work on is on svn and the svn diff, even if svnX 
makes it much better, is still much less friendly than comparing two 
docs ? la BBE/TW/FileMerge.
- Sometimes, I have to compare a file to something else than one of its 
ancestors.
An example: I work on a site that uses multiple stylesheets (the user 
can switch between them).
And as I don't edit and test both of them at the same time, it's easier 
to check the one I'm working with the others to see what I've changed.
I even dream of a way to compare more than 2 files, and maybe to be 
able to make edits in all of them at the same time. Ok, ok, I calm 
down.

Diff is not "the most important thing to me", but still... And NO, I 
won't go back to BBE! ;)

> Chris Thomas writes:
>> BBEdit's diff implementation is about the least UI work you can do 
>> and still claim to have a diff feature.
>> With just a few TM callbacks exposed, we could duplicate this 
>> functionality via scripting.

Yes, I think it could even be possible to recreate the compare command 
in BBE/TW with applescript.
Maybe it's an applescript, in fact...
That's why I took it as example, It seemed "simple enough". (I don't 
mean that implementing the necessary AS support in TM would be simple 
at all!)

>> A better implementation would provide a modern, polished version of 
>> FileMerge's view. That would almost certainly require Objective-C (or 
>> F-script) plugins if done by a third-party, though.
>
> That would be really neat. FileMerge looks pretty great. It isn't too 
> fun to edit with though.
>
Exactly.



From fxn at hashref.com  Fri Feb 18 20:15:26 2005
From: fxn at hashref.com (Xavier Noria)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 21:15:26 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Simple Command to strip HTML tags
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4DDED28E-800E-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
	
Message-ID: <6d0706da0e975ea5c780e85f87a7cc00@hashref.com>

On Feb 18, 2005, at 21:00, saul rosenbaum wrote:

> Howdy;
> anyone have a command to strip HTML markup?
> for selected text?

A simple way is to pass the selected text by stdin to the shell command

     lynx -stdin -dump

-- fxn



From timfm at hawaii.rr.com  Fri Feb 18 22:08:31 2005
From: timfm at hawaii.rr.com (Tim Martens)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:08:31 -1000
Subject: [TxMt] Simple Command to strip HTML tags
In-Reply-To: <6d0706da0e975ea5c780e85f87a7cc00@hashref.com>
References: <4DDED28E-800E-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
	
	<6d0706da0e975ea5c780e85f87a7cc00@hashref.com>
Message-ID: <1f6a67c1c08c9e841e5b4eabc5af7adf@hawaii.rr.com>


On Feb 18, 2005, at 10:15 AM, Xavier Noria wrote:

> lynx -stdin -dump

/bin/bash: line 1: lynx: command not found

???



From fxn at hashref.com  Fri Feb 18 22:34:38 2005
From: fxn at hashref.com (Xavier Noria)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:34:38 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Simple Command to strip HTML tags
In-Reply-To: <1f6a67c1c08c9e841e5b4eabc5af7adf@hawaii.rr.com>
References: <4DDED28E-800E-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
	
	<6d0706da0e975ea5c780e85f87a7cc00@hashref.com>
	<1f6a67c1c08c9e841e5b4eabc5af7adf@hawaii.rr.com>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 18, 2005, at 23:08, Tim Martens wrote:

> On Feb 18, 2005, at 10:15 AM, Xavier Noria wrote:
>
>> lynx -stdin -dump
>
> /bin/bash: line 1: lynx: command not found

It does not come with the system, you can install it with Fink, 
DarwinPorts, or compile the sources from

     http://lynx.isc.org/current/lynx-cur.tgz

-- fxn



From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Sat Feb 19 01:37:05 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:37:05 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
	
Message-ID: 

At 12:38 PM -0800 2/17/05, Eric Hsu wrote:
>At 7:46 PM +0100 2/17/05, Torsten Becker wrote:
>>you can select 2 files in the project drawer and after executing this
>>command a colored diff should pop up.
>
>I bet someone enterprising, and with more time than me could:
>
>1. ramp up Torsten's command to output hyperlinked diffs, so 
>clicking on the diff jumps to the appropriate document and line;
>
>2. (less obvious) use Applescript to move the two original windows 
>side by side and put the diff output in a lower window.

Okay, I wasted a lot of time today doing #1 above. It now shows the 
changes in color inline with the unchanged parts of the document. 
Clicking on a line takes you to the newer version (or if it's a 
deletion) to the older version.

I had wanted to add cool links (like in the Subversion Log command) 
to show/hide the common parts and also allow switching which document 
was considered the newer one. As it is now, whichever one appears 
first in the TM project drawer is the 'older' one.

It's a start. I think it can become cooler with time.

The Bundle is at http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk/Diff.tmbundle/

- Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From david.wooten at mac.com  Sat Feb 19 02:07:59 2005
From: david.wooten at mac.com (David Wooten)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:07:59 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Scroll past last line
Message-ID: 

Greetings,

I'd really like to be able to scroll past the last typed line in my 
file (without adding more blank lines), a la VI?Is there already a way 
to do this?

Regards,
David Wooten



From cryo at cyanite.org  Sat Feb 19 02:39:09 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 03:39:09 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Scroll past last line
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <33c4f45e380ae3840500e3ef3f9aff74@cyanite.org>

On 19. feb 2005, at 3:07, David Wooten wrote:

> I'd really like to be able to scroll past the last typed line in my 
> file (without adding more blank lines), a la VI?Is there already a way 
> to do this?

I am pretty sure the answer is no, at the moment. I must admit I have 
use for that quite often also.. although it's mostly a habbit I guess 
:-p.

-- 
Sune    ::    http://cyanite.org/
     "And now there is merely silence, silence,
         silence, saying all we did not know."



From allan at macromates.com  Sat Feb 19 05:09:48 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 06:09:48 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] req: command output to contextual menu
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <8dca71ebc4e8b66984e9a7afadb7ddba@macromates.com>

On Feb 18, 2005, at 18:52, machinate at machinate.org wrote:

> Would it be possible to make a command output option that displays as a
> menu. [...]

I would like to allow this, since it'd give several benefits. But the 
problem is how to 'describe' the action that selecting the menu item 
should lead to.

E.g. you may wish it to execute another command, insert a snippet, or 
similar.

One solution is to have the command output XML that TM would parse to 
figure out what to do with the output, then I could also allow for more 
than just menus, and some say that the X is for eXtensible ;) but I 
also think that XML is a complex beast for something as simple as 
putting up a menu.



From allan at macromates.com  Sat Feb 19 05:28:25 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 06:28:25 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
	
Message-ID: 

On Feb 18, 2005, at 20:18, Eric Hsu wrote:

> 1. In my setup, a command of
>
>> echo $TM_SELECTED_FILES | xargs diff -u
> works but
>> diff -u  $TM_SELECTED_FILES
> does not. I get a "diff: file not found" error.

I think the problem is that the shell passes the variable as a single 
argument to diff. So basically in #2 it calls: diff -u "'file1' 
'file2'". I am however not entirely sure about this.

You can btw make #1 like this:
    xargs <<<$TM_SELECTED_FILES diff -u

>> osascript -e 'tell app "TextMate.app" to return path of every window'
> which seemed like the right thing to do, but gave me a
>> 34:38: execution error: TextMate got an error: 
>> NSCannotCreateScriptCommandError (10)
> Any thoughts?

The window doesn't have a path attribute. You can do:
    osascript -e 'tell app "TextMate.app" to return name of every window'

But probably not very helpful. To get the path I think one is supposed 
to go through the document of each window, but TextMate is unlikely to 
support this (since I do not use NSDocument).



From lang at langriley.com  Sat Feb 19 07:33:42 2005
From: lang at langriley.com (Lang Riley)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:33:42 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Scroll past last line
In-Reply-To: <33c4f45e380ae3840500e3ef3f9aff74@cyanite.org>
References: 
	<33c4f45e380ae3840500e3ef3f9aff74@cyanite.org>
Message-ID: <948B0498-8248-11D9-99A1-000A95B635C0@langriley.com>

i vote for this one too, i often want to do this....and yes i come from 
a vi background as well
On Feb 18, 2005, at 6:39 PM, Sune Foldager wrote:

> On 19. feb 2005, at 3:07, David Wooten wrote:
>
>> I'd really like to be able to scroll past the last typed line in my 
>> file (without adding more blank lines), a la VI?Is there already a 
>> way to do this?
>
> I am pretty sure the answer is no, at the moment. I must admit I have 
> use for that quite often also.. although it's mostly a habbit I guess 
> :-p.
>
> -- 
> Sune    ::    http://cyanite.org/
>     "And now there is merely silence, silence,
>         silence, saying all we did not know."
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>
>
--
Best regards,
Lang Riley



From blalor at bravo5.org  Sat Feb 19 12:19:52 2005
From: blalor at bravo5.org (Brian Lalor)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 07:19:52 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Simple Command to strip HTML tags
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4DDED28E-800E-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
	
Message-ID: 

On Feb 18, 2005, at 3:00 PM, saul rosenbaum wrote:

> anyone have a command to strip HTML markup?
> for selected text?

This little sed ditty will probably do most of what you specified:
	sed -e 's#<[^>]*>##g'


-- 
    __   ____
   / /  / __/ Brian Lalor
  / _ \/__ \  blalor at bravo5.org
/_.__/____/  http://bravo5.org/


From max at machinate.org  Sat Feb 19 12:44:22 2005
From: max at machinate.org (max at machinate.org)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 12:44:22 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
Message-ID: 

I hadn't really thought of the possibilities for the contextual menu, I
really thought of it for choosing a list of snippets to insert after a
selection. If it could run commands as well, that would be very cool.

XML sounds like a good way of generating the list, I don't use it that much,
but couldn't each 'menu item' have 'input', 'output' and 'action' children
to define what it should do?

Would it be possible for you to make a menu that just had a list of snippets
at the moment, which could be further expanded in the future? I look forward
to any progress in this regard.

Keep up the great work,
Max




From mats at imediatec.co.uk  Sat Feb 19 13:22:55 2005
From: mats at imediatec.co.uk (Mats Persson)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 13:22:55 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Simple Command to strip HTML tags
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4DDED28E-800E-11D9-BBCE-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
	
Message-ID: 


On 18 Feb 2005, at 20:00, saul rosenbaum wrote:
> anyone have a command to strip HTML markup?
> for selected text?

if you have PHP installed then you can just use the following command:

php -r 'echo strip_tags( $_ENV["TM_SELECTED_TEXT"] );'

if you want to keep all 
     tags, then you would just create a copy of 
the command with

php -r 'echo strip_tags( $_ENV["TM_SELECTED_TEXT"], "
    " );'

and so on, more info on the PHP site.

Don't have PHP, well there's an easy 1 minute install option at 
http://www.entropy.ch/software/macosx/php/


Kind regards,

Mats

----
"TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
- www.macromates.com -



From cryo at cyanite.org  Sat Feb 19 13:28:59 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 14:28:59 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] req: command output to contextual menu
In-Reply-To: <8dca71ebc4e8b66984e9a7afadb7ddba@macromates.com>
References: 
	<8dca71ebc4e8b66984e9a7afadb7ddba@macromates.com>
Message-ID: 

On 19. feb 2005, at 6:09, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> One solution is to have the command output XML that TM would parse to 
> figure out what to do with the output, then I could also allow for 
> more than just menus, and some say that the X is for eXtensible ;) but 
> I also think that XML is a complex beast for something as simple as 
> putting up a menu.

There are also things like YaML(?), which are?at least for the 
user?much easier to deal with that XML.

-- 
Sune    ::    http://cyanite.org/
     "And now there is merely silence, silence,
         silence, saying all we did not know."



From cryo at cyanite.org  Sat Feb 19 13:31:29 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 14:31:29 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
	
	
Message-ID: <710f7df82e9fd68c8acdcf4ea9facd8d@cyanite.org>

On 19. feb 2005, at 6:28, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 18, 2005, at 20:18, Eric Hsu wrote:
>
>> 1. In my setup, a command of
>>
>>> echo $TM_SELECTED_FILES | xargs diff -u
>> works but
>>> diff -u  $TM_SELECTED_FILES
>> does not. I get a "diff: file not found" error.
>
> I think the problem is that the shell passes the variable as a single 
> argument to diff. So basically in #2 it calls: diff -u "'file1' 
> 'file2'". I am however not entirely sure about this.

Sounds odd. Even if I do stuff like A='"foo bar"' ls $A  I get  "foo 
not found, bar" not found. I don't think it passes it as a single 
argument.

-- 
Sune    ::    http://cyanite.org/
     "And now there is merely silence, silence,
         silence, saying all we did not know."



From allan at macromates.com  Sat Feb 19 13:41:08 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 14:41:08 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: <710f7df82e9fd68c8acdcf4ea9facd8d@cyanite.org>
References: 
	
	
	
	<710f7df82e9fd68c8acdcf4ea9facd8d@cyanite.org>
Message-ID: <21df124e3822dab36d5d6d86e7a89f35@macromates.com>

On Feb 19, 2005, at 14:31, Sune Foldager wrote:

>> I think the problem is that the shell passes the variable as a single 
>> argument to diff. So basically in #2 it calls: diff -u "'file1' 
>> 'file2'". I am however not entirely sure about this.
> Sounds odd. Even if I do stuff like A='"foo bar"' ls $A  I get  "foo 
> not found, bar" not found. I don't think it passes it as a single 
> argument.

Nah, seems the quotes are the problem:

% tst () { echo $1; }
% foo="'this' 'is' 'a' 'test'"
% tst $foo
'this'



From allan at macromates.com  Sat Feb 19 13:46:22 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 14:46:22 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] req: command output to contextual menu
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<8dca71ebc4e8b66984e9a7afadb7ddba@macromates.com>
	
Message-ID: 

On Feb 19, 2005, at 14:28, Sune Foldager wrote:

>> One solution is to have the command output XML that TM would parse to 
>> figure out what to do with the output, then I could also allow for 
>> more than just menus, and some say that the X is for eXtensible ;) 
>> but I also think that XML is a complex beast for something as simple 
>> as putting up a menu.
> There are also things like YaML(?), which are?at least for the 
> user?much easier to deal with that XML.

I'm not entirely sure I agree. I haven't used YAML for anything 
serious, but since it basically has special constructs for every data 
type, it requires one to refer quite a lot to the documentation.

And for the interoperability issue it would then probably make more 
sense to go with the ASCII property list format which is already well 
known by many TextMate users -- in fact I could allow the user to 
select between this or the XML version, just like with the syntax 
files.



From mats at imediatec.co.uk  Sat Feb 19 13:53:42 2005
From: mats at imediatec.co.uk (Mats Persson)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 13:53:42 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] New TM Doc in Finder Contextal Menu. Any ideas ??
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <62395f19ebf7b877d6d3f9b0269d41bb@imediatec.co.uk>


On 11 Feb 2005, at 15:13, Mats Persson wrote:
> Had a look at trying to create a Contextual Menu plug-in, but it 
> looked too complicated, so does anyone have a suggestion for how to do 
> this ??

A big THANK YOU is due to both Eric and Fred for their help with this.  
Apologies for not responding earlier, been out of it for most of the 
week with a flu and is only now trying to catch up with things.


Kind regards,

Mats

----
"TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
- www.macromates.com -



From cryo at cyanite.org  Sat Feb 19 14:19:20 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 15:19:20 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: <21df124e3822dab36d5d6d86e7a89f35@macromates.com>
References: 
	
	
	
	<710f7df82e9fd68c8acdcf4ea9facd8d@cyanite.org>
	<21df124e3822dab36d5d6d86e7a89f35@macromates.com>
Message-ID: 

On 19. feb 2005, at 14:41, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 19, 2005, at 14:31, Sune Foldager wrote:
>> Sounds odd. Even if I do stuff like A='"foo bar"' ls $A  I get  "foo 
>> not found, bar" not found. I don't think it passes it as a single 
>> argument.
>
> Nah, seems the quotes are the problem:
> % tst () { echo $1; }
> % foo="'this' 'is' 'a' 'test'"
> % tst $foo
> 'this'

I don't get it; this is expected behaviour, no? At least I expected 
this ;-). It obviously splits foo. It would still split it if you had 
done "'this is a' test" or similar.

-- 
Sune.
     " his body is a golden string, that your body is hanging from "



From allan at macromates.com  Sat Feb 19 14:21:15 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 15:21:15 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
	
	
	<710f7df82e9fd68c8acdcf4ea9facd8d@cyanite.org>
	<21df124e3822dab36d5d6d86e7a89f35@macromates.com>
	
Message-ID: <8cec772960fe910fb2dfaf6a000b0095@macromates.com>

On Feb 19, 2005, at 15:19, Sune Foldager wrote:

> I don't get it; this is expected behaviour, no?

Did you read Eric's post? Do you know how we can solve this problem w/o 
using xargs?



From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Sat Feb 19 17:47:37 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 09:47:37 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] New TM Doc in Finder Contextal Menu. Any ideas ??
In-Reply-To: <62395f19ebf7b877d6d3f9b0269d41bb@imediatec.co.uk>
References: 
	<62395f19ebf7b877d6d3f9b0269d41bb@imediatec.co.uk>
Message-ID: 

At 1:53 PM +0000 2/19/05, Mats Persson wrote:
>>Had a look at trying to create a Contextual Menu plug-in, but it 
>>looked too complicated, so does anyone have a suggestion for how to 
>>do this ??
>
>A big THANK YOU is due to both Eric and Fred for their help with 
>this.  Apologies for not responding earlier, been out of it for most 
>of the week with a flu and is only now trying to catch up with 
>things.

Also, I have submitted Fred's alternate contextual menu to the svn 
server at http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk/Tools/CM/

so people can have their pick!  Fred, let me know if you don't want 
it part of the distribution.

- Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From textmate at aerodynamite.net  Sat Feb 19 21:13:15 2005
From: textmate at aerodynamite.net (tim)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 21:13:15 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] ann: tabulate text command
Message-ID: 

Please see here for details -> 
http://aerodynamite.net/code/tabulate_text



From cryo at cyanite.org  Sat Feb 19 22:15:21 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 23:15:21 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: <8cec772960fe910fb2dfaf6a000b0095@macromates.com>
References: 
	
	
	
	<710f7df82e9fd68c8acdcf4ea9facd8d@cyanite.org>
	<21df124e3822dab36d5d6d86e7a89f35@macromates.com>
	
	<8cec772960fe910fb2dfaf6a000b0095@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <128facff01cd58e7941387f9688b43bf@cyanite.org>

On 19. feb 2005, at 15:21, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 19, 2005, at 15:19, Sune Foldager wrote:
>
>> I don't get it; this is expected behaviour, no?
>
> Did you read Eric's post? Do you know how we can solve this problem 
> w/o using xargs?

Oh.. we can't. The quotes are taken as part of the name, since bash 
doesn't do any further processing on expanded variables. Thus, unless 
fed to an argument splitter like xargs, quotes strings in variables are 
not very useful. An alternative *could* be to use bash array env-vars. 
I don't know how you can manipulate those though :-p.

-- 
Sune    ::    http://cyanite.org/
     "And now there is merely silence, silence,
         silence, saying all we did not know."



From cryo at cyanite.org  Sat Feb 19 22:19:36 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 23:19:36 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: <128facff01cd58e7941387f9688b43bf@cyanite.org>
References: 
	
	
	
	<710f7df82e9fd68c8acdcf4ea9facd8d@cyanite.org>
	<21df124e3822dab36d5d6d86e7a89f35@macromates.com>
	
	<8cec772960fe910fb2dfaf6a000b0095@macromates.com>
	<128facff01cd58e7941387f9688b43bf@cyanite.org>
Message-ID: 

On 19. feb 2005, at 23:15, Sune Foldager wrote:
> Oh.. we can't. The quotes are taken as part of the name, since bash 
> doesn't do any further processing on expanded variables.

Actually, bash is quite inconsistent. I _does_ split up text in 
expanded variables as normal, but doesn't allow quoting or escaping 
:-(. So basically it's impossible to include a space in a variable that 
should not be an argument boundary. Nice :-/.

-- 
Sune    ::    http://cyanite.org/
     "And now there is merely silence, silence,
         silence, saying all we did not know."



From allan at macromates.com  Sun Feb 20 03:01:06 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 04:01:06 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
	
	
	<710f7df82e9fd68c8acdcf4ea9facd8d@cyanite.org>
	<21df124e3822dab36d5d6d86e7a89f35@macromates.com>
	
	<8cec772960fe910fb2dfaf6a000b0095@macromates.com>
	<128facff01cd58e7941387f9688b43bf@cyanite.org>
	
Message-ID: <2118a648f32a7b72f44a68968a23d5fa@macromates.com>

On Feb 19, 2005, at 23:19, Sune Foldager wrote:

>> Oh.. we can't. The quotes are taken as part of the name, since bash 
>> doesn't do any further processing on expanded variables.
> Actually, bash is quite inconsistent. I _does_ split up text in 
> expanded variables as normal

Indeed it is, cause something like this:

    foo='this is a spaced variable'
    xargs <<<$foo -n1 echo

actually works fine, whereas one would think it should be:

    xargs <<<"$foo" -n1 echo

Maybe there is something similar to ?precedence? rules for bash? ;)



From lists at visualchutzpah.com  Sun Feb 20 06:05:53 2005
From: lists at visualchutzpah.com (saul rosenbaum)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 01:05:53 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Small feature request: color coding in the project drawer
In-Reply-To: <6d73b5cd6dedfff59573de24fad12098@bravo5.org>
References: <20050217084209.GA13043@tara.freenix.org>
	
	<6d73b5cd6dedfff59573de24fad12098@bravo5.org>
Message-ID: <7A3C1576-8305-11D9-AB04-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>

this may seem like a lame request, but the ability to
a. have the files in the project drawer reflect their label state in 
the finder
or
b. have some form of color-coding or labeling just within textMate 
would be really handy

(at least for me)


saul



saul rosenbaum
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http://www.visualchutzpah.com
http://www.saulrosenbaum.com
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215.702.1147



From ivar at enskede.net  Sun Feb 20 09:44:17 2005
From: ivar at enskede.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivar_=C5sell?=)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 10:44:17 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] TextMate: Extension Pack
In-Reply-To: <42153C7A.2080504@factorycity.net>
References: <42153C7A.2080504@factorycity.net>
Message-ID: <275eeeb155e3b53186cabb9585c89e4f@enskede.net>

Neat
Really nice, although some icons could have a little more text spacing  
so they look better when using 48x48 and smaller.

The instructions seems to be in German so I'd very much appreciate if  
someone could instruct me how to install the extension set.

Ivar


On 2005-02-18, at 01.53, Chris Messina wrote:

> Wolfgang has updated his TM iconset:
> 
> Check it out: http://www.bartelme.at/journal_detail.asp?detail=214
>
>
>  Chris
>
>  --
>
>
> Do the evolution. 
>
> Quote of the moment: "Simplicity is in taking the elegant path. It is  
> also a conscious choice? to achieve simplicity one must eschew  
> complexity. Simple things must be simple." -- author unknown
> ___________________________________ 
> ___________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
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From ivar at enskede.net  Sun Feb 20 09:47:42 2005
From: ivar at enskede.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivar_=C5sell?=)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 10:47:42 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] TextMate: Extension Pack
In-Reply-To: <275eeeb155e3b53186cabb9585c89e4f@enskede.net>
References: <42153C7A.2080504@factorycity.net>
	<275eeeb155e3b53186cabb9585c89e4f@enskede.net>
Message-ID: 

Never mind! Found another thread regarding this topic.
I copied all .icns files into the resources folder. Works perfect!

Very nice!

Ivar


On 2005-02-20, at 10.44, Ivar ?sell wrote:

> Neat
> Really nice, although some icons could have a little more text spacing  
> so they look better when using 48x48 and smaller.
>
> The instructions seems to be in German so I'd very much appreciate if  
> someone could instruct me how to install the extension set.
>
> Ivar
>
>
> On 2005-02-18, at 01.53, Chris Messina wrote:
>
>> Wolfgang has updated his TM iconset:
>> 
>> Check it out: http://www.bartelme.at/journal_detail.asp?detail=214
>>
>>
>>  Chris
>>
>>  --
>>
>>
>> Do the evolution. 
>>
>> Quote of the moment: "Simplicity is in taking the elegant path. It is  
>> also a conscious choice? to achieve simplicity one must eschew  
>> complexity. Simple things must be simple." -- author unknown
>> __________________________________ 
>> ____________________________________
>> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
>> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
>> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/ 
>> textmate______________________________________________________________ 
>> ________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
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From allan at macromates.com  Sun Feb 20 09:51:26 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 10:51:26 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <64faa4b474fb1fb1a63a2dcfcd6198bd@macromates.com>

On Feb 19, 2005, at 13:44, max at machinate.org wrote:

> Would it be possible for you to make a menu that just had a list of 
> snippets
> at the moment, which could be further expanded in the future?

The problem is doing it in a way that allows for future expansion w/o 
me having to support to much legacy. So I'll need to give it some 
further thoughts.

There is also the problem with commands that wants to change their 
output format at run-time, this problem should probably be solved in 
the same go.



From max at machinate.org  Sun Feb 20 13:27:22 2005
From: max at machinate.org (max at machinate.org)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 13:27:22 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Re: req: command output to contextual menu
Message-ID: 

Maybe it would be a bit harder than I thought to make it backwards
compatible. Keep thinking about it though.

The reason I asked for it in the first place is that I was making a script
to insert filenames into textmate, a bit like pressing tab in terminal.
Sometimes I would get more than one result, and I wanted those to appear in
a list. Now I've been thinking about it though, it might be a nice thing to
have this behaviour built into Textmate.

An example would be that if you typed in an html document: "href='i" and
then pressed tab, you could invoke a menu which showed files matching 'i.*'.
It could even be multi-dimensional as in my included mock-up.

Thamks
Max

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From cryo at cyanite.org  Sun Feb 20 15:39:16 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 16:39:16 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Small feature request: color coding in the project drawer
In-Reply-To: <7A3C1576-8305-11D9-AB04-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
References: <20050217084209.GA13043@tara.freenix.org>
	
	<6d73b5cd6dedfff59573de24fad12098@bravo5.org>
	<7A3C1576-8305-11D9-AB04-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
Message-ID: 

On 20. feb 2005, at 7:05, saul rosenbaum wrote:
> this may seem like a lame request, but the ability to [...]

Heed this:
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)

When you reply to an existing thread, mail programs will put them in 
the same thread, which is _highly_ annoying. So pretty please - create 
a new mail when starting a new topic!

-- 
Sune   ::   TextMate self-proclaimed moderator.



From mats at imediatec.co.uk  Sun Feb 20 17:19:25 2005
From: mats at imediatec.co.uk (Mats Persson)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 17:19:25 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Re: req: command output to contextual menu
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1bd75fbde62261384f4b38ed0522ae77@imediatec.co.uk>


On 20 Feb 2005, at 13:27, max at machinate.org wrote:
> Maybe it would be a bit harder than I thought to make it backwards
> compatible. Keep thinking about it though.
>
> The reason I asked for it in the first place is that I was making a 
> script
> to insert filenames into textmate, a bit like pressing tab in terminal.
> Sometimes I would get more than one result, and I wanted those to 
> appear in
> a list. Now I've been thinking about it though, it might be a nice 
> thing to
> have this behaviour built into Textmate.
>
> An example would be that if you typed in an html document: "href='i" 
> and
> then pressed tab, you could invoke a menu which showed files matching 
> 'i.*'.
> It could even be multi-dimensional as in my included mock-up.

OK, not wishing to detract, offend or anything else here other than 
being helpfull. Max, you can find a really nice implementation of this 
type of functionality is in skEdit when dealing with  or   
tags. skEdit is $20 and beats both DW & BBEdit, but struggles a bit to 
compare with TM in some areas :)

Now on to the interesting part, where I'm thinking aloud which is not 
always a good thing. :)
Perhaps naively, but I think much of this functionality already exists 
in TM, although I can't see how to control it into a functional format 
right now.  Maybe the grand master Allan can whip something up in his 
magic chambers late at night ??

The required ingredients (with additions):
- Go To File Chooser: (does all we would need in it's non QS way to 
list available files)
	-- need to be able to set search dir starting point: i.e. when typing 
"images/" we only see files in "images" dir
	-- have context flag: i.e. when looking for images we only want to see 
.jpg, .gif, .png files
	-- ability to invoke GTFchooser from commands with path and context 
flag data
		example: $TM_FILE_CHOOSER --path "images/" --context img
	-- ability to receive the output from GTFchooser in a command

- Multiple Commands Pop-up Menu (in use when commands share the same 
key trigger)
	-- ability to invoke the pop-up menu ($TM_POPUP_MENU ??) in a command 
and send it data
	-- ability to receive chosen item from pop-up menu 
($TM_POPUP_MENU_CHOSEN_ITEM ??) and
	   then process that choice to insert correct data rather than what's 
just displayed in the menu
	-- ability to display a simplified version of GTFchooser (with small 
scrollbar) into the menu

Add the above abilities to a command of your liking with whatever 
functionality you'd like and we have a form of TM pop-up menu that can 
enable a multitude of great things!!  File look-ups or auto-completes 
are just two things.
I hope you all can see the same picture/possibilities that I see. 
Apologies if you can't, sort of find it hard to explain it clearly.

Now I do not expect Allan to get this going anytime soon, but sometimes 
he does amaze us mere mortals with his coding skills.

Kind regards,

Mats

----
"TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
- www.macromates.com -



From saul at visualchutzpah.com  Sun Feb 20 17:25:11 2005
From: saul at visualchutzpah.com (saul rosenbaum)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 12:25:11 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Bug - File grouping
In-Reply-To: <7A3C1576-8305-11D9-AB04-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
References: <20050217084209.GA13043@tara.freenix.org>
	
	<6d73b5cd6dedfff59573de24fad12098@bravo5.org>
	<7A3C1576-8305-11D9-AB04-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
Message-ID: <60475C80-8364-11D9-AB04-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>

This might be by design - but I can't imagine why

Take a group of preexisting files drag them onto TextMate and create a 
scratch project
save the project and then attempt to select a range of files in the 
project drawer to group them.. The group files option is disabled

Although I have no problem creating a new project -- populate it with 
'new' files from textMate and grouping them is not a problem

any thoughts?


saul rosenbaum
----------------------------------------------
http://www.visualchutzpah.com
http://www.saulrosenbaum.com
----------------------------------------------
215.702.1147



From max at machinate.org  Sun Feb 20 19:09:14 2005
From: max at machinate.org (max at machinate.org)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:09:14 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Re: textmate Digest, Vol 5, Issue 56
In-Reply-To: <20050220172557.5559817BD@one.textdrive.com>
References: <20050220172557.5559817BD@one.textdrive.com>
Message-ID: 

Hi Mats,

I have already got skEdit and really like its implementation of the file
chooser thing I was proposing, its pretty much what I was trying to 
emulate
in TM ;). However I have to agree that although it is a very good 
editor it
can't match TM's flexibility, and I thought Texmate could offer the 
best of
both.

I have put together a command that outputs filenames matching the first 
few
letters but need a way of selecting options when there are multiple 
results.
We'll have to wait for commands to output to a contextual menu to fully
realise some of the potential of these ideas, but when it is supported I
think there will be a lot of great tools available to us.

Max

> OK, not wishing to detract, offend or anything else here other than
> being helpfull. Max, you can find a really nice implementation of this
> type of functionality is in skEdit when dealing with  or  
> tags. skEdit is $20 and beats both DW & BBEdit, but struggles a bit to
> compare with TM in some areas :)



From cryo at cyanite.org  Sun Feb 20 20:59:58 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 21:59:58 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Bug - File grouping
In-Reply-To: <60475C80-8364-11D9-AB04-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
References: <20050217084209.GA13043@tara.freenix.org>
	
	<6d73b5cd6dedfff59573de24fad12098@bravo5.org>
	<7A3C1576-8305-11D9-AB04-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
	<60475C80-8364-11D9-AB04-000A95C6CD7A@visualchutzpah.com>
Message-ID: 

Mr. Saul Rosenbaum....

When making a _new post_, that is, anything that changed the subject 
and is not just a reply to a previous message, _please use the 'New' 
button in your mail program and enter the email address of the list. Do 
NOT press the reply button in some random thread. Now you just did it 
two times in a row ;-).  *slaps you with a manual on mailing-list 
etiquette*.

-- 
Sune.



From fredb7 at starflam.com  Sun Feb 20 22:05:24 2005
From: fredb7 at starflam.com (Fred B.)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 23:05:24 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] New TM Doc in Finder Contextal Menu. Any ideas ??
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<62395f19ebf7b877d6d3f9b0269d41bb@imediatec.co.uk>
	
Message-ID: 


On 19 f?vr. 05, at 18:47, Eric Hsu wrote:
>
> Also, I have submitted Fred's alternate contextual menu to the svn 
> server at http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk/Tools/CM/
>
> so people can have their pick!  Fred, let me know if you don't want it 
> part of the distribution.
>
>

No problem, of course.
But could you put my last version, please? (included in this mail)

There's no need to edit paths anymore (I use /usr/bin/ruby) and I added 
a few "Commands for BBEdit and other editors" adaptations for TM.

I won't use most of them, but they might be useful to someone.
Plus, I think It's good to have equivalent versions for TM.

Till now, there is:

-New TextMate file here
-New TextMate file here with Clipboard text
-Edit in TextMate
-Open selected text in TextMate
-Set type and creator to TextMate
-Edit OMC commands in TextMate
-List folder content in TextMate
-List pkg content in TextMate

Maybe Allan could give me svn access so I could update those and add 
new commands?

Eric, I could include your commands and mine in the same  plist, update 
the readme, etc. What do you think?

Then I could send them to be included in "officials" OMC commands.

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From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Sun Feb 20 23:04:43 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 15:04:43 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] New TM Doc in Finder Contextal Menu. Any ideas ??
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<62395f19ebf7b877d6d3f9b0269d41bb@imediatec.co.uk>
	
	
Message-ID: 

At 11:05 PM +0100 2/20/05, Fred B. wrote:
>No problem, of course.
>But could you put my last version, please? (included in this mail)
>Maybe Allan could give me svn access so I could update those and add 
>new commands?

Good idea. I will wait for you to get access from Allan. That will 
give you practice with svn and save me some work!

>I won't use most of them, but they might be useful to someone.
>Plus, I think It's good to have equivalent versions for TM.

>Eric, I could include your commands and mine in the same  plist, 
>update the readme, etc. What do you think? Then I could send them to 
>be included in "officials" OMC commands.

Great idea!  - Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From allan at macromates.com  Mon Feb 21 07:20:11 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:20:11 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] New TM Doc in Finder Contextal Menu. Any ideas ??
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<62395f19ebf7b877d6d3f9b0269d41bb@imediatec.co.uk>
	
	
	
Message-ID: <49e431f11a929d7529582da626b63c70@macromates.com>

On Feb 21, 2005, at 0:04, Eric Hsu wrote:
> At 11:05 PM +0100 2/20/05, Fred B. wrote:
>> Maybe Allan could give me svn access so I could update those and add 
>> new commands?

Sure I can add you! Strangely I did not get this letter Eric replied 
to...

Fred, do you have a last name or do you want your full name to be ?Fred 
B.? in the repository?



From fredb7 at starflam.com  Mon Feb 21 07:55:53 2005
From: fredb7 at starflam.com (Fred B.)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:55:53 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] New TM Doc in Finder Contextal Menu. Any ideas ??
In-Reply-To: <49e431f11a929d7529582da626b63c70@macromates.com>
References: 
	<62395f19ebf7b877d6d3f9b0269d41bb@imediatec.co.uk>
	
	
	
	<49e431f11a929d7529582da626b63c70@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <39309b68cb535e6c2553f8370a535ed5@starflam.com>


On 21 f?vr. 05, at 08:20, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 21, 2005, at 0:04, Eric Hsu wrote:
>> At 11:05 PM +0100 2/20/05, Fred B. wrote:
>>> Maybe Allan could give me svn access so I could update those and add 
>>> new commands?
>
> Sure I can add you! Strangely I did not get this letter Eric replied 
> to...

Strange! I resent it to you only.
>
> Fred, do you have a last name or do you want your full name to be 
> ?Fred B.? in the repository?
>

Yes, indeed, I have a last name. lol
My name is Ball?riaux, Fr?d?ric Ball?riaux. ;)
But you can use FredB. or whatever.


From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Mon Feb 21 08:05:15 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 00:05:15 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] New TM Doc in Finder Contextal Menu. Any ideas ??
In-Reply-To: <39309b68cb535e6c2553f8370a535ed5@starflam.com>
References: 
	<62395f19ebf7b877d6d3f9b0269d41bb@imediatec.co.uk>
	
	
	
	<49e431f11a929d7529582da626b63c70@macromates.com>
	<39309b68cb535e6c2553f8370a535ed5@starflam.com>
Message-ID: 

At 8:55 AM +0100 2/21/05, Fred B. wrote:
>My name is Ball?riaux, Fr?d?ric Ball?riaux. ;)
>But you can use FredB. or whatever.

I discovered something weird with svn. I put your 
name into the README, and then attempted to put 
an svn commit message of "Added Fr?d?ric 
Ball?riaux". It rejected the message saying 
'Can't recode string'. Weird!  The accents aigue 
freaked svn out.  It has something to do with 
locale confusion as described at 
. 
I am too tired to sort it out, and just put you 
as Fred B in the commit message.

best,  Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From fredb7 at starflam.com  Mon Feb 21 08:20:12 2005
From: fredb7 at starflam.com (Fred B.)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:20:12 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] New TM Doc in Finder Contextal Menu. Any ideas ??
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<62395f19ebf7b877d6d3f9b0269d41bb@imediatec.co.uk>
	
Message-ID: <79f30941b0dd1226f4b2790a19cd9789@starflam.com>

//
Mail is bouncing back from Allan address,

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----

     (reason: 550 Error: Your email program uses "=20" instead of 
spaces. Please correct this (try setting your mail program to use plain 
text) and resend your message.)

But this was plaintext... Weird.
Might be because of the plist included, so I replaced it with a link 
and resend it to the list (and to you Allan, just to test), sorry if 
you already had it.
//


On 19 f?vr. 05, at 18:47, Eric Hsu wrote:
>
> Also, I have submitted Fred's alternate contextual menu to the svn 
> server at http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk/Tools/CM/
>
> so people can have their pick!  Fred, let me know if you don't want it 
> part of the distribution.

No problem, of course.
But could you put my last version, 
please?(http://osxgeek.com/tm/TM-OMC.zip)

There's no need to edit paths anymore (I use /usr/bin/ruby) and I added 
a few "Commands for BBEdit and other editors" adaptations for TM.

I won't use most of them, but they might be useful to someone.
Plus, I think It's good to have equivalent versions for TM.

Till now, there is:

-New TextMate file here
-New TextMate file here with Clipboard text
-Edit in TextMate
-Open selected text in TextMate
-Set type and creator to TextMate
-Edit OMC commands in TextMate
-List folder content in TextMate
-List pkg content in TextMate

Maybe Allan could give me svn access so I could update those and add 
new commands?

Eric, I could include your commands and mine in the same  plist, update 
the readme, etc. What do you think?

Then I could send them to be included in "officials" OMC commands.



From allan at macromates.com  Mon Feb 21 08:20:40 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:20:40 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] New TM Doc in Finder Contextal Menu. Any ideas ??
In-Reply-To: <39309b68cb535e6c2553f8370a535ed5@starflam.com>
References: 
	<62395f19ebf7b877d6d3f9b0269d41bb@imediatec.co.uk>
	
	
	
	<49e431f11a929d7529582da626b63c70@macromates.com>
	<39309b68cb535e6c2553f8370a535ed5@starflam.com>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 21, 2005, at 8:55, Fred B. wrote:

>> Sure I can add you! Strangely I did not get this letter Eric replied 
>> to...
> Strange! I resent it to you only.

The mail did show up in the archive, so the problem is on my side.

>> Fred, do you have a last name or do you want your full name to be 
>> ?Fred B.? in the repository?
> Yes, indeed, I have a last name. lol
> My name is Ball?riaux, Fr?d?ric Ball?riaux. ;)
> But you can use FredB. or whatever.

I used the accented version and forgot that commit messages sent to the 
ML doesn't get the headers encoded, but everything else should be 
UTF-8! :)



From allan at macromates.com  Mon Feb 21 08:23:01 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:23:01 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] New TM Doc in Finder Contextal Menu. Any ideas ??
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
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On Feb 21, 2005, at 9:05, Eric Hsu wrote:

> I discovered something weird with svn. I put your name into the 
> README, and then attempted to put an svn commit message of "Added 
> Fr?d?ric Ball?riaux". It rejected the message saying 'Can't recode 
> string'. Weird!  The accents aigue freaked svn out.  It has something 
> to do with locale confusion as described at 
> . I am too tired 
> to sort it out, and just put you as Fred B in the commit message.

You need to set LANG to en_US.UTF-8 in TextMate's custom shell 
variables (or /etc/profile). I have made this default for beta 6.

Btw: the readme you comitted seemed to be in ISO-8859-1 (making stuff 
like svn blame etc. fail).



From fredb7 at starflam.com  Mon Feb 21 08:29:20 2005
From: fredb7 at starflam.com (Fred B.)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:29:20 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] New TM Doc in Finder Contextal Menu. Any ideas ??
In-Reply-To: 
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On 21 f?vr. 05, at 09:05, Eric Hsu wrote:

> At 8:55 AM +0100 2/21/05, Fred B. wrote:
>> My name is Ball?riaux, Fr?d?ric Ball?riaux. ;)
>> But you can use FredB. or whatever.
>
> I discovered something weird with svn. I put your name into the 
> README, and then attempted to put an svn commit message of "Added 
> Fr?d?ric Ball?riaux". It rejected the message saying 'Can't recode 
> string'. Weird!  The accents aigue freaked svn out.  It has something 
> to do with locale confusion as described at 
> . I am too tired 
> to sort it out, and just put you as Fred B in the commit message.
>

Guess why I use FredB.? ;)
I'm a bit tired of being Fr?d?ric Ball?riaux or Fr??d??ric Ball??riaux 
as in the svn mail I just received. ;D


From allan at macromates.com  Mon Feb 21 08:32:25 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:32:25 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] New TM Doc in Finder Contextal Menu. Any ideas ??
In-Reply-To: <83cacb7041544a5c8b9dcc6f58ff0242@macromates.com>
References: 
	<62395f19ebf7b877d6d3f9b0269d41bb@imediatec.co.uk>
	
	
	
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On Feb 21, 2005, at 9:23, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> You need to set LANG to en_US.UTF-8 in TextMate's custom shell 
> variables (or /etc/profile). I have made this default for beta 6.
>
> Btw: the readme you comitted seemed to be in ISO-8859-1 (making stuff 
> like svn blame etc. fail).

Oh, reading this again makes me think you've set TM to save in Latin 1, 
and that was the problem (that svn is actually setup correctly to use 
UTF-8 and thus choked on the latin 1 commit message)...

I can't say it enough: UTF-8 is the king of encodings, and everybody 
should use it! :)

If you go to TextMate Preferences / Advanced you can disable ?Only 
apply to new files? under File Encoding (which should be in the 
recommended setting ;) ), then TextMate will also save files which 
weren't loaded as UTF-8 (or 7 bit ASCII) as UTF-8.

I have this disabled myself.


From allan at macromates.com  Mon Feb 21 08:34:09 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:34:09 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] New TM Doc in Finder Contextal Menu. Any ideas ??
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<62395f19ebf7b877d6d3f9b0269d41bb@imediatec.co.uk>
	
	
	
	<49e431f11a929d7529582da626b63c70@macromates.com>
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Message-ID: 

On Feb 21, 2005, at 9:29, Fred B. wrote:

> Guess why I use FredB.? ;)
> I'm a bit tired of being Fr?d?ric Ball?riaux or Fr??d??ric Ball??riaux 
> as in the svn mail I just received. ;D

hehe... the welcome email was another thing I hadn't remembered to fix 
for utf-8...

But other than that, my infrastructure should be utf-8! ;)



From fredb7 at starflam.com  Mon Feb 21 09:47:35 2005
From: fredb7 at starflam.com (Fred B.)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 10:47:35 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
	
	
Message-ID: <7364a2678ac1c2c0e6e6404917ed2dd8@starflam.com>


On 19 f?vr. 05, at 02:37, Eric Hsu wrote:

> At 12:38 PM -0800 2/17/05, Eric Hsu wrote:
>> At 7:46 PM +0100 2/17/05, Torsten Becker wrote:
>>
>> 1. ramp up Torsten's command to output hyperlinked diffs, so clicking 
>> on the diff jumps to the appropriate document and line;
>>
>> 2. (less obvious) use Applescript to move the two original windows 
>> side by side and put the diff output in a lower window.
>
> Okay, I wasted a lot of time today doing #1 above. It now shows the 
> changes in color inline with the unchanged parts of the document. 
> Clicking on a line takes you to the newer version (or if it's a 
> deletion) to the older version.
>
> I had wanted to add cool links (like in the Subversion Log command) to 
> show/hide the common parts and also allow switching which document was 
> considered the newer one. As it is now, whichever one appears first in 
> the TM project drawer is the 'older' one.
>
> It's a start. I think it can become cooler with time.
>


The command doesn't appear when I install it. I tried to remove the 
older Diff.bundle, but that didn't make the trick, maybe I'm missing 
something.
I copy/pasted it but couldn't figure how to load the css files locally. 
No problem if I put them on a server. But I didn't took the time to 
figure it out, maybe I'm missing something again. Plus, external css 
files are loaded after the the html ouptut is completed, not that nice 
as it is slow.

(BTW, why is the html output much more slower than html preview? It can 
be 30 times slower on big files.)

Back to your command:
There is some @@......@@ lines appearing in the output (offsetting the 
links).
I was trying on two css files.

Then, I made some thinking/testing with your command.
After spending a lot of time trying.. lot of things (in Ruby, Perl 
doesn't like me ;), I thought someone should already have made a diff 
to html script and after a lot of time again, I found one. It's called 
hdiff and you can find it here:http://www.ginini.com/software/hdiff/ . 
It's a Perl script that parses the diff -u output in html, putting the 
two docs side-by-side and colorizing "Line added, line removed and line 
changed. It offset the docs when there is line added or removed, too.
That looks quite cool.

So, I thought I could try to link the line numbers to TM files, but:
First, the hdiff's -n (put the line number in front of every line) 
option was broken (if I'm right an "$$" that should be "$" @ line 144.)
Then I realized the line numbers where just the start of the ranges, 
not every lines :(

To add link to TM files is easy, but I don't know if it's even possible 
to output each line number, but if it's possible that could be a pretty 
nice solution.

I'll look more into it in the coming days, either with hdiff  
(But...Perl :( I might even try to rewrite everything in Ruby.),
or with your script, Eric.

Any answers/idea are welcome.

Sorry to be longish.



From allan at macromates.com  Mon Feb 21 11:03:20 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 12:03:20 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: <128facff01cd58e7941387f9688b43bf@cyanite.org>
References: 
	
	
	
	<710f7df82e9fd68c8acdcf4ea9facd8d@cyanite.org>
	<21df124e3822dab36d5d6d86e7a89f35@macromates.com>
	
	<8cec772960fe910fb2dfaf6a000b0095@macromates.com>
	<128facff01cd58e7941387f9688b43bf@cyanite.org>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 19, 2005, at 23:15, Sune Foldager wrote:

>>> I don't get it; this is expected behaviour, no?
>> Did you read Eric's post? Do you know how we can solve this problem 
>> w/o using xargs?
> Oh.. we can't. The quotes are taken as part of the name, since bash 
> doesn't do any further processing on expanded variables. Thus, unless 
> fed to an argument splitter like xargs, quotes strings in variables 
> are not very useful. An alternative *could* be to use bash array 
> env-vars. I don't know how you can manipulate those though :-p.

Just found the ?solution?, we can convert TM_SELECTED_FILES to an array 
using eval, example:
    eval FILES=($TM_SELECTED_FILES)
    for ((i=0; i < ${#FILES[@]}; i++)); do
       ls -l "${FILES[i]}"
    done

Or as required in the original example:
    eval FILES=($TM_SELECTED_FILES)
    diff -u "${FILES[0]}" "${FILES[1]}"

Though generally the xargs version is nicer, and also, it would work if 
the file names contained quotes, which the above doesn't take care of.

And should you want to use the above, you may want to set the input 
field separator (IFS) to just a space (by default it also contains tab 
and newline) -- not that I really expect anyone to find this useful, 
but at least it seems there is a solution which doesn't involve an 
argument splitter like xargs.



From allan at macromates.com  Mon Feb 21 12:37:37 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:37:37 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: <7364a2678ac1c2c0e6e6404917ed2dd8@starflam.com>
References: 
	
	
	
	<7364a2678ac1c2c0e6e6404917ed2dd8@starflam.com>
Message-ID: <0c52dd2d0abf0b10be8be7864b402497@macromates.com>

On Feb 21, 2005, at 10:47, Fred B. wrote:

> The command doesn't appear when I install it. I tried to remove the 
> older Diff.bundle, but that didn't make the trick, maybe I'm missing 
> something.

Does the bundle appear, but just not the command? If the bundle doesn't 
appear, quit TextMate and execute:
    defaults delete com.macromates.textmate 
OakBundleManagerDeletedBundles
That should restore any default bundles that may have previously been 
deleted.

> (BTW, why is the html output much more slower than html preview? It 
> can be 30 times slower on big files.)

Because I reload the content each time there is new output from the 
command -- I'll improve that in the future.



From allan at macromates.com  Mon Feb 21 13:07:42 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 14:07:42 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Menu output (was: textmate Digest, Vol 5, Issue 56)
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20050220172557.5559817BD@one.textdrive.com>
	
Message-ID: <4c11092e3ff2ee80cb0cc02b82dc2ed5@macromates.com>

On Feb 20, 2005, at 20:09, max at machinate.org wrote:

> I have put together a command that outputs filenames matching the 
> first few
> letters but need a way of selecting options when there are multiple 
> results.
> We'll have to wait for commands to output to a contextual menu to fully
> realise some of the potential of these ideas, but when it is supported 
> I
> think there will be a lot of great tools available to us.

Until I provide better support for this, you may want to use the 
'choose from list' apple script command.

For example here is a script that finds all files starting with 
$TM_CURRENT_WORD (in current directory), shows an AS dialog from where 
you can choose, and inserts the choice (removing the common prefix).

Input: none
Output: insert as snippet

FILES=`find . -name "${TM_CURRENT_WORD}*" -type f -maxdepth 1 -exec 
basename '{}' \;|perl -pe 's/(.*)\n/"$1",/'|perl -pe 's/,$//g'`

osascript -e 'tell app "Finder" to activate'
res=`osascript -e "tell app \"Finder\" to choose from list { $FILES }"`
osascript -e 'tell app "TextMate" to activate' &>/dev/null &

echo -n ${res:${#TM_CURRENT_WORD}}



From fredb7 at starflam.com  Mon Feb 21 13:12:36 2005
From: fredb7 at starflam.com (Fred B.)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 14:12:36 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: <0c52dd2d0abf0b10be8be7864b402497@macromates.com>
References: 
	
	
	
	<7364a2678ac1c2c0e6e6404917ed2dd8@starflam.com>
	<0c52dd2d0abf0b10be8be7864b402497@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <97f80582278970ebc55f9be7b202d1d1@starflam.com>


On 21 f?vr. 05, at 13:37, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 21, 2005, at 10:47, Fred B. wrote:
>
>> The command doesn't appear when I install it. I tried to remove the 
>> older Diff.bundle, but that didn't make the trick, maybe I'm missing 
>> something.
>
> Does the bundle appear, but just not the command? If the bundle 
> doesn't appear, quit TextMate and execute:
>    defaults delete com.macromates.textmate 
> OakBundleManagerDeletedBundles
> That should restore any default bundles that may have previously been 
> deleted.

Sorry, that was not really clear.
The bundle doesn't appear but the syntax highlight does.

>
>> (BTW, why is the html output much more slower than html preview? It 
>> can be 30 times slower on big files.)
>
> Because I reload the content each time there is new output from the 
> command -- I'll improve that in the future.
>

Ok.
Btw, I tried to set "dontFollowNewOutput" to false in the plist, but 
that didn't stop scrolling.



From allan at macromates.com  Mon Feb 21 13:16:30 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 14:16:30 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: <97f80582278970ebc55f9be7b202d1d1@starflam.com>
References: 
	
	
	
	<7364a2678ac1c2c0e6e6404917ed2dd8@starflam.com>
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	<97f80582278970ebc55f9be7b202d1d1@starflam.com>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 21, 2005, at 14:12, Fred B. wrote:

>>> The command doesn't appear when I install it. I tried to remove the 
>>> older Diff.bundle, but that didn't make the trick, maybe I'm missing 
>>> something.
>> Does the bundle appear, but just not the command? If the bundle 
>> doesn't appear, quit TextMate and execute:
>>    defaults delete com.macromates.textmate 
>> OakBundleManagerDeletedBundles
>> That should restore any default bundles that may have previously been 
>> deleted.
>
> Sorry, that was not really clear.
> The bundle doesn't appear but the syntax highlight does.

And you have ?Show All? or ?Show Commands? selected above the list, 
right?

Try to open Console.app, if TextMate fails to parse a bundle item, it 
should output an error for that item.

> Btw, I tried to set "dontFollowNewOutput" to false in the plist, but 
> that didn't stop scrolling.

You need to set it to true -- yeah, I ought to know better about not 
using double negations to enable features ;)



From cryo at cyanite.org  Mon Feb 21 14:59:37 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:59:37 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] New TM Doc in Finder Contextal Menu. Any ideas ??
In-Reply-To: <83cacb7041544a5c8b9dcc6f58ff0242@macromates.com>
References: 
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On 21. feb 2005, at 9:23, Allan Odgaard wrote:
> You need to set LANG to en_US.UTF-8 in TextMate's custom shell 
> variables (or /etc/profile). I have made this default for beta 6.

Unless you don't want english. LANG overrides LC_CTYPE which I usually 
have set to da_DK.ISO_8859-1 (or .UTF-8).

-- 
Sune    ::    http://cyanite.org/
     "And now there is merely silence, silence,
         silence, saying all we did not know."



From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Mon Feb 21 16:22:32 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:22:32 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] New TM Doc in Finder Contextal Menu. Any ideas ??
In-Reply-To: <83cacb7041544a5c8b9dcc6f58ff0242@macromates.com>
References: 
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Message-ID: 

At 9:23 AM +0100 2/21/05, Allan Odgaard wrote:
>You need to set LANG to en_US.UTF-8 in TextMate's custom shell 
>variables (or /etc/profile). I have made this default for beta 6.
>
>Btw: the readme you comitted seemed to be in ISO-8859-1 (making 
>stuff like svn blame etc. fail).

Weird. I just did the usual commit writing using TM. However: I did 
cut and paste FredB's name from Eudora. I wouldn't think that would 
mess things up, but maybe that bypassed TM's usual reencoding into 
UTF8? These encodings are definitely not my strong point.

Ah, the answer is...

>Oh, reading this again makes me think you've set TM to save in Latin 
>1, and that was the problem (that svn is actually setup correctly to 
>use UTF-8 and thus choked on the latin 1 commit message)...
>If you go to TextMate Preferences / Advanced you can disable "Only 
>apply to new files" under File Encoding (which should be in the 
>recommended setting ;) ), then TextMate will also save files which 
>weren't loaded as UTF-8 (or 7 bit ASCII) as UTF-8.

This was the problem. I don't go out of my way to save in Latin 1, 
but I think either Fred's original email or Eudora's representation 
is such, and that carried over into TM.  I now changed it to your 
suggested setting.

- Eric


From erichsu at math.sfsu.edu  Mon Feb 21 16:32:19 2005
From: erichsu at math.sfsu.edu (Eric Hsu)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:32:19 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Req: Compare docs-Diff
In-Reply-To: <7364a2678ac1c2c0e6e6404917ed2dd8@starflam.com>
References: 
	
	
	
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Message-ID: 

At 10:47 AM +0100 2/21/05, Fred B. wrote:
>To add link to TM files is easy, but I don't know if it's even 
>possible to output each line number, but if it's possible that could 
>be a pretty nice solution.

You can figure out the line numbers from the 'changes only' diff if 
you keep a running count of the 'old' and 'new' line numbers, which 
you can infer from the chunks of text.  Or you can use diff -u and 
have it all inline. Which I always prefer anyway.

>I'll look more into it in the coming days, either with hdiff 
>(But...Perl :( I might even try to rewrite everything in Ruby.), or 
>with your script, Eric.

Good luck!  Have a look at the subversion bundle for ideas on HTML 
output. The stuff Chris and Torsten are doing are quite cool. I'll 
let you know if I start work on this again.

- Eric
-- 
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu


From BrunosJunk at Bronosky.com  Tue Feb 22 05:25:41 2005
From: BrunosJunk at Bronosky.com (Bruno Bronosky)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:25:41 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Web preview is a cool idea but useless?
Message-ID: <98368ddddd5874af99506adfe6fb6328@Bronosky.com>

I think that might have been a little harsh.  What I mean is this:  The 
web preview works awesome for real time viewing of html code.  I am 
amazed.  Really.  But, I don't know anyone who write HTML anymore.  
Sometimes to make a Smarty Template, I'll write HTML and then retrofit 
it, but usually not.  The web preview needs to be able to read from a 
valid URI, like http://127.0.0.1/projects/clientX/index.php

I would at least like to find a solution to get Safari and/or Firefox 
to refresh on save.  But I think the built in tool using webkit would 
be coolest.  Has anyone figured this out?

Thank you,

--==<< R i c h a r d B r o n o s k y >>==--

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From anders at barclay.textdrive.com  Tue Feb 22 05:37:29 2005
From: anders at barclay.textdrive.com (anders at barclay.textdrive.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 05:37:29 -0000 (GMT)
Subject: [TxMt] Web preview is a cool idea but useless?
In-Reply-To: <98368ddddd5874af99506adfe6fb6328@Bronosky.com>
References: <98368ddddd5874af99506adfe6fb6328@Bronosky.com>
Message-ID: <58402.194.114.201.53.1109050649.squirrel@webmail.barclay.textdrive.com>

Wouldn't it be nice to be able to set a base URI for each project, and
have the webpreview use that?

.Anders

> I think that might have been a little harsh.  What I mean is this:  The
> web preview works awesome for real time viewing of html code.  I am
> amazed.  Really.  But, I don't know anyone who write HTML anymore.
> Sometimes to make a Smarty Template, I'll write HTML and then retrofit
> it, but usually not.  The web preview needs to be able to read from a
> valid URI, like http://127.0.0.1/projects/clientX/index.php
>
> I would at least like to find a solution to get Safari and/or Firefox
> to refresh on save.  But I think the built in tool using webkit would
> be coolest.  Has anyone figured this out?
>
> Thank you,
>
> --==<< R i c h a r d B r o n o s k y >>==--
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate




From allan at macromates.com  Tue Feb 22 11:16:00 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:16:00 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Web preview is a cool idea but useless?
In-Reply-To: <98368ddddd5874af99506adfe6fb6328@Bronosky.com>
References: <98368ddddd5874af99506adfe6fb6328@Bronosky.com>
Message-ID: <1054c42fe6456922b9bce041f9e531cf@macromates.com>

On Feb 22, 2005, at 6:25, Bruno Bronosky wrote:

> I think that might have been a little harsh.

I'm glad that you do not think my time was completely wasted then! :)

> What I mean is this:  The web preview works awesome for real time  
> viewing of html code.  I am amazed.  Really.  But, I don't know anyone  
> who write HTML anymore.

I use the preview myself a lot -- I often write small pieces of HTML  
(e.g. when posting online) where I mainly just want to ensure that my  
formatting is correct, and for that I use the preview. Though I rarely  
use the ?live? feature of it.

It also happens at times that I have a HTML snippet that I just want to  
view w/o having to create, save, and load a file in my browser.

> Sometimes to make a Smarty Template, I'll write HTML and then retrofit  
> it, but usually not.  The web preview needs to be able to read from a  
> valid URI, like http://127.0.0.1/projects/clientX/index.php

Yes, this is on the to-do. But I think that people who need this, would  
probably still prefer a real browser even with this feature. But I am  
aware that the web-preview has fallen a little behind with regard to  
the requests I have received for it.

> I would at least like to find a solution to get Safari and/or Firefox  
> to refresh on save.  But I think the built in tool using webkit would  
> be coolest.  Has anyone figured this out?

You may want to use Stakeout [1] for that. It can monitor a file and  
e.g. perform an action when the file is saved (which would be to send  
reload to Safari/Firefox).

[1]  
http://michael-mccracken.net/blog/blosxom.pl/computers/mac/programming/ 
meetWatch.html




From torsten.becker at gmail.com  Tue Feb 22 12:22:35 2005
From: torsten.becker at gmail.com (Torsten Becker)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:22:35 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] outlining braces
In-Reply-To: <54ddc2ca2e935f67f2215b0b19ff05ee@macromates.com>
References: <4215BC7B.30601@redry.net>
	
	<54ddc2ca2e935f67f2215b0b19ff05ee@macromates.com>
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 18 Feb 16:28 (+0100), Allan Odgaard wrote:
> Currently I'm holding back on visual changes because I wish to change
> my entire rendering model.

Ah, Ok.  Do that, but please keep this request in mind.  You would
make me very happy with this highlighting behavior. :)

-- 
Torsten


From kmcmillan at leapfrogonline.com  Tue Feb 22 16:34:24 2005
From: kmcmillan at leapfrogonline.com (kumar mcmillan)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:34:24 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] mixed-case match in plist?
Message-ID: <62f2e89ac64f1b271d489ed0de10d11f@leapfrogonline.com>

I've been working on an SQL syntax plist with some more keywords but I 
can't see a way to pass in a "case insensitive" flag to the regex 
matches.  I've reverted to something ugly like this :
match="\\b(sum|SUM|count|COUNT)\\b" ... etc


any suggestions?
thx, K



From allan at macromates.com  Tue Feb 22 17:02:12 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:02:12 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] mixed-case match in plist?
In-Reply-To: <62f2e89ac64f1b271d489ed0de10d11f@leapfrogonline.com>
References: <62f2e89ac64f1b271d489ed0de10d11f@leapfrogonline.com>
Message-ID: <02412b60ded8e8ee4c897a0e06908a5a@macromates.com>

On Feb 22, 2005, at 17:34, kumar mcmillan wrote:

> I've been working on an SQL syntax plist with some more keywords but I 
> can't see a way to pass in a "case insensitive" flag to the regex 
> matches.  I've reverted to something ugly like this :
> match="\\b(sum|SUM|count|COUNT)\\b" ... etc

Do: \\<(?i:sum|count)\\>



From timfm at hawaii.rr.com  Tue Feb 22 21:02:05 2005
From: timfm at hawaii.rr.com (Tim Martens)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:02:05 -1000
Subject: [TxMt] Web preview is a cool idea but useless?
In-Reply-To: <98368ddddd5874af99506adfe6fb6328@Bronosky.com>
References: <98368ddddd5874af99506adfe6fb6328@Bronosky.com>
Message-ID: 


On Feb 21, 2005, at 7:25 PM, Bruno Bronosky wrote:

> But, I don't know anyone who write HTML anymore.  Sometimes to make a 
> Smarty Template, I'll write HTML and then retrofit it, but usually 
> not.  The web preview needs to be able to read from a valid URI, like 
> http://127.0.0.1/projects/clientX/index.php

Are we  missing the point here? I use preview for CSS more than 
anything, as it requires constant tweaking and viewing. I need to 
instantly see the result of a tiny change in an inline or block style 
without having to save.

If this can be accomplished AND be able to easily switch rendering 
engines (in Web Preview GUI), then I imagine we'll see a lot more web 
developers (esp. CSS people) converting to TM. And that means profits 
for the TM team.

That's why I'd like to see the Web Preview development "catch-up"



From chris at m-audio.com  Tue Feb 22 21:15:49 2005
From: chris at m-audio.com (Chris Thomas)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:15:49 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Web preview is a cool idea but useless?
In-Reply-To: <98368ddddd5874af99506adfe6fb6328@Bronosky.com>
References: <98368ddddd5874af99506adfe6fb6328@Bronosky.com>
Message-ID: <4BA9A23E-C9E1-4A57-88D8-02B80C33D91E@m-audio.com>

On Feb 21, 2005, at 9:25 PM, Bruno Bronosky wrote:

> I think that might have been a little harsh.  What I mean is this:  
> The web preview works awesome for real time viewing of html code.  I 
> am amazed.  Really.  But, I don't know anyone who write HTML anymore. 
>  Sometimes to make a Smarty Template, I'll write HTML and then 
> retrofit it, but usually not.  The web preview needs to be able to 
> read from a valid URI, like 
> http://127.0.0.1/projects/clientX/index.php

If you have Ruby 1.8.2 installed, you can preview a selected URL with a 
command such as:

ruby << 'END'
     require 'open-uri'
     open(ENV['TM_SELECTED_TEXT']) {|f| puts f.read}
END





From BrunosJunk at Bronosky.com  Tue Feb 22 21:43:37 2005
From: BrunosJunk at Bronosky.com (Bruno Bronosky)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:43:37 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Web preview is a cool idea but useless?
In-Reply-To: <1054c42fe6456922b9bce041f9e531cf@macromates.com>
References: <98368ddddd5874af99506adfe6fb6328@Bronosky.com>
	<1054c42fe6456922b9bce041f9e531cf@macromates.com>
Message-ID: <43d0712154322b8d22e9c83e3bcc3e9a@Bronosky.com>

On Feb 22, 2005, at 6:16 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote:

>
>> I would at least like to find a solution to get Safari and/or Firefox  
>> to refresh on save.  But I think the built in tool using webkit would  
>> be coolest.  Has anyone figured this out?
>
> You may want to use Stakeout [1] for that. It can monitor a file and  
> e.g. perform an action when the file is saved (which would be to send  
> reload to Safari/Firefox).
>
> [1]  
> http://michael-mccracken.net/blog/blosxom.pl/computers/mac/ 
> programming/meetWatch.html

Yes, Stakeout looks very cool.  I also thought of using folder actions  
for this, but I don't know how to get Safari or Mozilla to refresh from  
a command line or AppleScript.  Does anyone have a working example for  
this?

In BBEdit I used to use a script like this:
Save and Refresh Safari.scpt
tell application "BBEdit"
	save window 1
end tell

tell application "Safari"
	do JavaScript "location.reload()"
end tell

But that stopped working with one of the updates to OS X.  I would like  
to see an AppleScript that would check to see if the current file's URI  
was open in any Safari window or tab.  If so bring it to the front and  
refresh, else open a new tab with the URI.

Any ideas?  I can't be the first person to try this.
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From mgee at gwi.net  Wed Feb 23 11:42:13 2005
From: mgee at gwi.net (Michael Gregoire)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 06:42:13 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Macromates.com
Message-ID: 

I'm wondering what's up with the website. It hasn't loaded for me for 
well over a week.
I receive the following message when I go:


Precondition Failed

The precondition on the request for the URL / evaluated to false




From jason at textdrive.com  Wed Feb 23 11:45:34 2005
From: jason at textdrive.com (Jason Hoffman)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 03:45:34 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Macromates.com
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

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That would because at some point a week ago you triggered the network 
appliance that prevents DDOSes. There's still some fine tuning around 
things like RSS feeds etc, so email me off list with your IP address 
(or subnet) and I can take care of it.

Thanks, Jason

On Feb 23, 2005, at 3:42 AM, Michael Gregoire wrote:

> I'm wondering what's up with the website. It hasn't loaded for me for 
> well over a week.
> I receive the following message when I go:
>
>
> Precondition Failed
>
> The precondition on the request for the URL / evaluated to false
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate

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From fredb7 at starflam.com  Wed Feb 23 12:00:00 2005
From: fredb7 at starflam.com (Fred B.)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:00:00 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Macromates.com
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <888252afc50fe2e671d99df03f164cb9@starflam.com>


On 23 f?vr. 05, at 12:42, Michael Gregoire wrote:

> I'm wondering what's up with the website. It hasn't loaded for me for 
> well over a week.
> I receive the following message when I go:
>
>
> Precondition Failed
>
> The precondition on the request for the URL / evaluated to false
>

That might not be as simple as that, and I don't know if you use Safari 
or not, sorry if it's unrelated:

I noticed that Safari make a 'nice' job at caching error pages and give 
them back to you when they shouldn't be error anymore. ;) You then have 
to empty the cache. (Safari menu/empty cache). I've been fooled a 
couple of times ...


From mgee at gwi.net  Wed Feb 23 12:02:41 2005
From: mgee at gwi.net (Michael Gregoire)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 07:02:41 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Macromates.com
In-Reply-To: <888252afc50fe2e671d99df03f164cb9@starflam.com>
References: 
	<888252afc50fe2e671d99df03f164cb9@starflam.com>
Message-ID: 

Thanks, I'll try that as well.



On Feb 23, 2005, at 7:00 AM, Fred B. wrote:

>
> On 23 f?vr. 05, at 12:42, Michael Gregoire wrote:
>
>> I'm wondering what's up with the website. It hasn't loaded for me for 
>> well over a week.
>> I receive the following message when I go:
>>
>>
>> Precondition Failed
>>
>> The precondition on the request for the URL / evaluated to false
>>
>
> That might not be as simple as that, and I don't know if you use 
> Safari or not, sorry if it's unrelated:
>
> I noticed that Safari make a 'nice' job at caching error pages and 
> give them back to you when they shouldn't be error anymore. ;) You 
> then have to empty the cache. (Safari menu/empty cache). I've been 
> fooled a couple of times ...
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>



From jason at textdrive.com  Wed Feb 23 12:10:03 2005
From: jason at textdrive.com (Jason Hoffman)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 04:10:03 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Macromates.com
In-Reply-To: <888252afc50fe2e671d99df03f164cb9@starflam.com>
References: 
	<888252afc50fe2e671d99df03f164cb9@starflam.com>
Message-ID: 

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On Feb 23, 2005, at 4:00 AM, Fred B. wrote:
> On 23 f?vr. 05, at 12:42, Michael Gregoire wrote:
>> I'm wondering what's up with the website. It hasn't loaded for me for 
>> well over a week.
>> I receive the following message when I go:
>>
>>
>> Precondition Failed
>>
>> The precondition on the request for the URL / evaluated to false
>>
>>


Yes, Michael had the misfortune of being on the same subnet as a gang 
of porn refer spammers that hit wordpress.org with half a million hits 
in a day. Anyone sees a Precondition Failed error feel free to let me 
know

Thanks, Jason

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From cryo at cyanite.org  Wed Feb 23 15:50:40 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:50:40 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Macromates.com
In-Reply-To: <888252afc50fe2e671d99df03f164cb9@starflam.com>
References: 
	<888252afc50fe2e671d99df03f164cb9@starflam.com>
Message-ID: 

On 23. feb 2005, at 13:00, Fred B. wrote:

> I noticed that Safari make a 'nice' job at caching error pages and 
> give them back to you when they shouldn't be error anymore. ;) You 
> then have to empty the cache. (Safari menu/empty cache). I've been 
> fooled a couple of times ...

Hmm that never happened to me. And shouldn't, if Safari adheres to the 
HTTP standard (and the server also does, which migh be the problem).

-- 
Sune    ::    http://cyanite.org/
     "And now there is merely silence, silence,
         silence, saying all we did not know."



From max at machinate.org  Wed Feb 23 19:40:28 2005
From: max at machinate.org (max)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:40:28 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Downloading bundles
Message-ID: 

Hi,
Just wondering how to download complete bundles from the repository. I can
navigate around the trunk in safari and display all the individual files,
but how do you get a complete bundle?

Sorry if I am missing something, but couldn't there be zipped versions
available?

Max




From list at redry.net  Wed Feb 23 19:48:12 2005
From: list at redry.net (eoghan)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:48:12 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] adding a bundle
Message-ID: <2bdabbb03ce12c4fd1b7f8f9b1236e73@redry.net>

Hi
Im wanting to use the PHP bundle in textmate... but I was wondering how 
i actually add it? I found the bundle i want:
http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk/PHP.tmbundle/
And Ive just found the bundle editor :) Never used it before (bundle 
editor)...
So im wondering how I go about adding it to my textmate? I have looked 
in the wiki but havent found an answer...
Thanks
Eoghan



From mats at imediatec.co.uk  Wed Feb 23 19:54:08 2005
From: mats at imediatec.co.uk (Mats Persson)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:54:08 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Downloading bundles
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

On 23 Feb 2005, at 19:40, max wrote:
> Hi,
> Just wondering how to download complete bundles from the repository. 
> ... but how do you get a complete bundle?

Max,

Not sure if this is the best way, but it's the only way I know of.

1. You need Subversion installed on your computer. Good single-click 
installer for OS X can be found on Dominique's site [ 
http://www.lachoseinteractive.net/en/community/subversion/ ] While 
you're there, give his svnX a try. It's good, but can't download 
.tmbundles (??)

2.	With svn installed you use the following command in Terminal:

svn checkout --username anon --password anon 
http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk/  
~/TMbundles/

That's all I know, and now over to the real guru's about this stuff :)


Kind regards,

Mats

----
"TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
- www.macromates.com -



From mats at imediatec.co.uk  Wed Feb 23 19:56:51 2005
From: mats at imediatec.co.uk (Mats Persson)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:56:51 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] adding a bundle
In-Reply-To: <2bdabbb03ce12c4fd1b7f8f9b1236e73@redry.net>
References: <2bdabbb03ce12c4fd1b7f8f9b1236e73@redry.net>
Message-ID: <2af65ed1976a8dfaa8c30e4a93891564@imediatec.co.uk>


On 23 Feb 2005, at 19:48, eoghan wrote:
> Im wanting to use the PHP bundle in textmate... but I was wondering 
> how i actually add it? I found the bundle i want:
> http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk/PHP.tmbundle/
> And Ive just found the bundle editor :) Never used it before (bundle 
> editor)...
> So im wondering how I go about adding it to my textmate? I have looked 
> in the wiki but havent found an answer...

Double-click the PHP.tmbundle should work, although there is a PHP 
bundle installed by default.

Alternatively you can drop the .tmbundle into your 
~/Library/Application Support/TextMate/Bundles


Kind regards,

Mats

----
"TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
- www.macromates.com -



From list at redry.net  Wed Feb 23 20:05:03 2005
From: list at redry.net (eoghan)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:05:03 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] adding a bundle
In-Reply-To: <2af65ed1976a8dfaa8c30e4a93891564@imediatec.co.uk>
References: <2bdabbb03ce12c4fd1b7f8f9b1236e73@redry.net>
	<2af65ed1976a8dfaa8c30e4a93891564@imediatec.co.uk>
Message-ID: <124aa3641fa4590bd6a9c572012df9f6@redry.net>

On 23 Feb 2005, at 19:56, Mats Persson wrote:

> Double-click the PHP.tmbundle should work, although there is a PHP 
> bundle installed by default.

There is a php bundle in my bundle editor, but theres nothing in it... 
except PHP and HTML (PHP) - both of which dont have anything in them... 
I guess I need to get subversion as just suggested to get the bundle?
Thanks
Eoghan



From timfm at hawaii.rr.com  Wed Feb 23 21:00:35 2005
From: timfm at hawaii.rr.com (Tim Martens)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 11:00:35 -1000
Subject: [TxMt] Texmate iconset
Message-ID: 

How does one install Wolfgang's new Textmate iconset?



From mats at imediatec.co.uk  Wed Feb 23 21:07:19 2005
From: mats at imediatec.co.uk (Mats Persson)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:07:19 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] adding a bundle
In-Reply-To: <124aa3641fa4590bd6a9c572012df9f6@redry.net>
References: <2bdabbb03ce12c4fd1b7f8f9b1236e73@redry.net>
	<2af65ed1976a8dfaa8c30e4a93891564@imediatec.co.uk>
	<124aa3641fa4590bd6a9c572012df9f6@redry.net>
Message-ID: <47e8e99604697dd8431ef4e5a85a2421@imediatec.co.uk>


On 23 Feb 2005, at 20:05, eoghan wrote:
>> Double-click the PHP.tmbundle should work, although there is a PHP 
>> bundle installed by default.
> There is a php bundle in my bundle editor, but theres nothing in it... 
> except PHP and HTML (PHP) - both of which dont have anything in 
> them... I guess I need to get subversion as just suggested to get the 
> bundle?

Ah, I understand. The installed default PHP.tmbundle (and the 
Subversion version is the same onel) only contains the Syntax 
highlighting files for PHP.

I've reworked the basic PHP bundle to my own liking with loads of 
timesaving snippets and commands. Unfortunately, it's not really of 
much use for others unless you happen to code with my code :)  Will try 
to create a generic bundle, been meaning to do so for a while, but 
haven't got around to it yet.

You can easily create your own snippets/commands to your own liking. 
Read more about it in the TM Help menu and/or in the Mailing list 
archives. here.  Give it a go, and although things might seem a bit 
daunting/confusing to start with, once you understand *how* TM works 
with snippets/commands/templates you will begin to wonder how you 
managed to survive without TM before. I can honestly say that I have 
never been more efficient or had a better time coding since I started 
doing 7-8 years ago !!

Any other questions come back and we'll see what we can help you with.

Kind regards,

Mats

----
"TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
- www.macromates.com -



From list at redry.net  Wed Feb 23 21:25:21 2005
From: list at redry.net (eoghan)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:25:21 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] adding a bundle
In-Reply-To: <47e8e99604697dd8431ef4e5a85a2421@imediatec.co.uk>
References: <2bdabbb03ce12c4fd1b7f8f9b1236e73@redry.net>
	<2af65ed1976a8dfaa8c30e4a93891564@imediatec.co.uk>
	<124aa3641fa4590bd6a9c572012df9f6@redry.net>
	<47e8e99604697dd8431ef4e5a85a2421@imediatec.co.uk>
Message-ID: <5a00fab65a150fb2147fec5e3a7592f2@redry.net>

On 23 Feb 2005, at 21:07, Mats Persson wrote:

> Any other questions come back and we'll see what we can help you with.

Thank you very much Mats for the explanation... I shall give it a go 
and see how I fair out... I guess we all code different :) Seems very 
interesting and hopefully will save me lots of time too...
Thanks again
Eoghan



From mats at imediatec.co.uk  Wed Feb 23 21:41:53 2005
From: mats at imediatec.co.uk (Mats Persson)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:41:53 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Web preview is a cool idea but useless?
In-Reply-To: <43d0712154322b8d22e9c83e3bcc3e9a@Bronosky.com>
References: <98368ddddd5874af99506adfe6fb6328@Bronosky.com>
	<1054c42fe6456922b9bce041f9e531cf@macromates.com>
	<43d0712154322b8d22e9c83e3bcc3e9a@Bronosky.com>
Message-ID: <313bbf5d5230a3cd87c6818028225fd0@imediatec.co.uk>


On 22 Feb 2005, at 21:43, Bruno Bronosky wrote:
> In BBEdit I used to use a script like this:
> Save and Refresh Safari.scpt
> tell application "BBEdit"
> 	save window 1
> end tell
>
> tell application "Safari"
> 	do JavaScript "location.reload()"
> end tell
>
> But that stopped working with one of the updates to OS X.  I would 
> like to see an AppleScript that would check to see if the current 
> file's URI was open in any Safari window or tab.  If so bring it to 
> the front and refresh, else open a new tab with the URI.
>
> Any ideas?  I can't be the first person to try this.

Bruno & others,

I did some commands a few months ago, that does some of the things 
you'd need. Doesn't deal with Safari/Firefox tabs, as they are not 
AppleScriptable so we can't reach them. Unless someone knows better 
this is the best we can do at the moment. :(


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Mats

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From mats at imediatec.co.uk  Wed Feb 23 22:11:30 2005
From: mats at imediatec.co.uk (Mats Persson)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:11:30 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Paging Matteo Spinelli PHP.tmbundle / Allan ??
Message-ID: <2d0234d80e470fe03eef0824a7aaae92@imediatec.co.uk>


OK, I was finally spurred into making my reworked PHP bundle available 
for others to use and found that Matteo Spinelli is working on the 
official PHP bundle. So Matteo, please get in touch to see what we can 
work together on.

Allan, if Matteo is not here could you let me know his email ??  
Secondly, I too like to get access to the svn for some other bundles 
I've got.


Kind regards,

Mats

----
"TextMate, coding with an incredible sense of joy and ease"
- www.macromates.com -



From pmccann at maths.adelaide.edu.au  Wed Feb 23 23:19:00 2005
From: pmccann at maths.adelaide.edu.au (Paul McCann)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:49:00 +1030
Subject: [TxMt] Macromates.com
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	<888252afc50fe2e671d99df03f164cb9@starflam.com>
	
Message-ID: <20050223231900.GA16450@maths.adelaide.edu.au>

Sune wrote...

> >I noticed that Safari make a 'nice' job at caching error pages and 
> >give them back to you when they shouldn't be error anymore. ;) You 
> >then have to empty the cache. (Safari menu/empty cache). I've been 
> >fooled a couple of times ...
 
> Hmm that never happened to me. And shouldn't, if Safari adheres to the 
> HTTP standard (and the server also does, which migh be the problem).

Safari behaves in an "interesting" manner with respect to cached pages
if you have a proxy between you and the rest of the world. In particular
"refresh" and even "force refresh" (option-command-R ? I can't remember,
since I switched to Firefox some time back) simply don't always work as
you'd hope they might. Change browser and *bang*: there's the new page.
This made previewing changes on a server outside the local network via
Safari something like a cross between "painful" and "excruciating". 

Cheers,
Paul


From BrunosJunk at Bronosky.com  Thu Feb 24 00:37:14 2005
From: BrunosJunk at Bronosky.com (Bruno Bronosky)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:37:14 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] Texmate iconset
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <476e5701dd8c58966bdec3b480198d4b@Bronosky.com>

This was answered by Fred B. on 2/12 at 5:48:38PM in a message titled "Re: 
[TxMt] How to switch icon sets?"

I recommend using the search feature in Mail.app.  But, you may delete 
these list mails and not have access to it.  I suggest creating a 
TextMate folder in Mail and creating a rule like this:
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On Feb 12, 2005, at 5:48 PM, Fred B. wrote:

> You have to replace them in TextMate.app/content/ressources

But, I will elaborate for you:
It's simple.  Just control+click the TextMate application in Finder 
(Not the Dock) and chose "Show Package Contents".  Navigate to 
Contents>Resources.  There are a lot of files in here including a few 
*.icns files. (Far fewer than what Wolfgang created)  Mount Wolfgang's 
textmate.dmg.  In that disk image navigate to Icons>ICNS. Copy all 
those *.icns files into the "Resources" folder mentioned above, 
replacing those that exist.

You can then do a command+option+Escape to relaunch Finder, or log out 
and back in.  That will update the displayed icon for all your files.

Hope that helps.

Thank you,

--==<< R i c h a r d B r o n o s k y >>==--


On Feb 23, 2005, at 4:00 PM, Tim Martens wrote:

> How does one install Wolfgang's new Textmate iconset?
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
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From matt3o at gmail.com  Thu Feb 24 08:18:09 2005
From: matt3o at gmail.com (Matt)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:18:09 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] PHP Bundle
Message-ID: <53e12aa1050224001829e7ac49@mail.gmail.com>

I'm happy to see there's some kind of interest in my PHP bundle. I'm
still working on it so please contact me at [ cubiq at cubiq.org ] if
you have any suggestions. In the repository under the PHP.tmbundle
you'll also find a README file with some info and revision history.

The bundle contains about 3000 php functions, deprecated and
experimental ones have been stripped out for better performances, in
the README file you'll find excluded functions.

@Mats Persson: please contact me if you have any suggestions.

Best regards,
Matt


From list at redry.net  Thu Feb 24 09:45:42 2005
From: list at redry.net (eoghan)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:45:42 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] PHP Bundle
In-Reply-To: <53e12aa1050224001829e7ac49@mail.gmail.com>
References: <53e12aa1050224001829e7ac49@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <421DA246.3060306@redry.net>

Hi Matt,
Your bundle comes with textmate... right? Or at the moment is it just 
syntax highlighting? If not, Im interested to know how yours works and 
if I can install it for my textmate. Ive never even looked at bundles 
till last night :) So its completely new to me, but is use php a lot...
Thanks
Eoghan

Matt wrote:

>I'm happy to see there's some kind of interest in my PHP bundle. I'm
>still working on it so please contact me at [ cubiq at cubiq.org ] if
>you have any suggestions. In the repository under the PHP.tmbundle
>you'll also find a README file with some info and revision history.
>
>The bundle contains about 3000 php functions, deprecated and
>experimental ones have been stripped out for better performances, in
>the README file you'll find excluded functions.
>
>@Mats Persson: please contact me if you have any suggestions.
>
>Best regards,
>Matt
>______________________________________________________________________
>For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
>(threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
>http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>
>
>  
>


From blalor at bravo5.org  Thu Feb 24 13:46:49 2005
From: blalor at bravo5.org (Brian Lalor)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:46:49 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] unable to add dot-files to project
Message-ID: <9b406d20fa8d32b375d62a9177eb62e4@bravo5.org>

TM 1.1b5

I'm trying to create a project containing the .files from my home 
directory (.profile, .bashrc, &c.). When I explicitly add a .file to 
the project, either by dragging a proxy icon from an existing TM 
document, using the "tm" command line program (with multiple files), or 
  using "add existing files..." from the project drawer, the files just 
disappear from the project.  There used to be a per-project file/folder 
pattern setting accessible from the info window, but that's gone, with 
only the ability to edit per-project variables.

Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug?

-- 
    __   ____
   / /  / __/ Brian Lalor
  / _ \/__ \  blalor at bravo5.org
/_.__/____/  http://bravo5.org/


From kmcmillan at leapfrogonline.com  Thu Feb 24 16:05:38 2005
From: kmcmillan at leapfrogonline.com (kumar mcmillan)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:05:38 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] PHP Bundle
In-Reply-To: <53e12aa1050224001829e7ac49@mail.gmail.com>
References: <53e12aa1050224001829e7ac49@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

Hey -- this is the first I've read about the anonymous repos for 
Bundles -- cool!
I'm not sure how commit access works -- do I have to request an 
account?  Are there limited maintainers per bundle?

I added PHP5 language constructs and PHPDoc tags (to inline comments) 
to PHP.plist syntax.
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PS.  I'm not crazy about the circus colors but nice work on improving 
the PHP function list (are these all generated from scripts, the names 
of the plist blocks?)


On Feb 24, 2005, at 2:18 AM, Matt wrote:

> I'm happy to see there's some kind of interest in my PHP bundle. I'm
> still working on it so please contact me at [ cubiq at cubiq.org ] if
> you have any suggestions. In the repository under the PHP.tmbundle
> you'll also find a README file with some info and revision history.
>
> The bundle contains about 3000 php functions, deprecated and
> experimental ones have been stripped out for better performances, in
> the README file you'll find excluded functions.
>
> @Mats Persson: please contact me if you have any suggestions.
>
> Best regards,
> Matt
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate

From bjoern at lauschmusik.de  Fri Feb 25 13:51:24 2005
From: bjoern at lauschmusik.de (Bjoern Wolf)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:51:24 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Refreshing the project drawer
Message-ID: <184f9a9b91ace94d6722551297a4e123@lauschmusik.de>

Hey all,

i am new to the list and have some problem with TextMate using version 
1.1b5.
Sometimes the project drawer collapses the view i.e. when i update my 
local repository from a subversion module which i added to the drawer.

Is this a known bug and will this be fixed in the future? Or is there 
already any hidden setting addressing this behaviour?

Thanks a lot for this great editor.

.bjoern



From kmcmillan at leapfrogonline.com  Fri Feb 25 22:52:20 2005
From: kmcmillan at leapfrogonline.com (kumar mcmillan)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:52:20 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] PHP Bundle
In-Reply-To: 
References: <53e12aa1050224001829e7ac49@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <0061d6487221bf9135abf270da60c918@leapfrogonline.com>

For anyone interested, I updated the PHP Documentor snippets and added 
them to the SVN repos (in PHP.tmbundle).  The snippet "phpdoc_u" prints 
usage and explains the updates I made (i.e. you now use TextMate shell 
variables to set @author/@copyright defaults).
http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk/PHP.tmbundle/

FYI Matteo : I have an svn account now, so I will help out with any 
changes needed for the PHP bundle ... as TextMate/PHP evolve.  You 
mentioned you had some other ideas for macros/snippets ... just thought 
I would add these snippets in as-is, for convenience of distribution.  
They are always up for improvement or abstraction.

-Kumar



From allan at macromates.com  Sat Feb 26 10:27:00 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 11:27:00 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Refreshing the project drawer
In-Reply-To: <184f9a9b91ace94d6722551297a4e123@lauschmusik.de>
References: <184f9a9b91ace94d6722551297a4e123@lauschmusik.de>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 25, 2005, at 14:51, Bjoern Wolf wrote:

> i am new to the list and have some problem with TextMate using version 
> 1.1b5.
> Sometimes the project drawer collapses the view i.e. when i update my 
> local repository from a subversion module which i added to the drawer.
>
> Is this a known bug and will this be fixed in the future?

Yes, this is a known problem -- the problem is when the contents of a 
folder reference is updated outside TextMate and TM loses track of 
which disk folders corresponds to items in the project drawer (then it 
just resets state for what appears as new items).

In the future I'm most likely going to keep the state of folder 
references in hidden files. While I don't really like this, I think 
it's the only way to get the robustness that most expect, and it's also 
how the Finder does.



From allan at macromates.com  Sat Feb 26 10:32:49 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 11:32:49 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] unable to add dot-files to project
In-Reply-To: <9b406d20fa8d32b375d62a9177eb62e4@bravo5.org>
References: <9b406d20fa8d32b375d62a9177eb62e4@bravo5.org>
Message-ID: <4bafbf3437c0904ce19a27d2b094222b@macromates.com>

On Feb 24, 2005, at 14:46, Brian Lalor wrote:

> I'm trying to create a project containing the .files from my home 
> directory (.profile, .bashrc, &c.). When I explicitly add a .file to 
> the project, either by dragging a proxy icon from an existing TM 
> document, using the "tm" command line program (with multiple files), 
> or  using "add existing files..." from the project drawer, the files 
> just disappear from the project.
>
> There used to be a per-project file/folder pattern setting accessible 
> from the info window, but that's gone, with only the ability to edit 
> per-project variables.

There is only the ability to set per folder reference patterns. That 
files outside folder references are filtered using the default patterns 
is a bug.

You can remove ?\.|? from the default file pattern to have it work, but 
then .files will of course show up in new folder references you create 
(where you could manually add this part again though).



From paul at archivistes.com  Sat Feb 26 14:15:49 2005
From: paul at archivistes.com (Paul Nordstrom August)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 15:15:49 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] encryption command advice for TM "journal"
Message-ID: 

I had been using Jotz (until it became Bloatz), then MacJournal and 
tried DevonThink (which I may still purchase--it's pretty cool). But 
since I have TM open all the time anyway I have an "info" project where 
I store various bits of data. There's no RTF or images but I can live 
without them and I like the portability of plain text.

What I would like is an on-the-fly encryption -- i.e. select the text 
and run a command to encrypt it (with a pre-set password). Then I could 
store bank data etc securely.

Any tips on how this might be done? I know there is command-line 
encryption of various kinds but I'm not sure how I could store a 
password w/in TM for global use.

thanks!
Paul

PS looking forward to the new PHP bundle!



From allan at macromates.com  Sat Feb 26 14:53:48 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 15:53:48 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] encryption command advice for TM "journal"
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

On Feb 26, 2005, at 15:15, Paul Nordstrom August wrote:

> What I would like is an on-the-fly encryption -- i.e. select the text 
> and run a command to encrypt it (with a pre-set password). Then I 
> could store bank data etc securely.

You can set the password as a custom shell variable for TextMate, go to 
preferences / advanced (name it e.g. TM_PASSWD). Then use this command 
to encrypt input (which you'd probably set to ?selected text?) as 
AES-128:
    openssl enc -e -aes128 -base64 -pass env:TM_PASSWD

To decrypt the block again, use this command:
    openssl enc -d -aes128 -base64 -pass env:TM_PASSWD

Anyone who has access to your TextMate preferences file would be able 
to read the password. If this is sufficient security, then I'd suggest 
the above. You could also provide the password directly to the command 
using: ?-pass pass:?, this is less secure than the variable 
because other processes running on your machine might be able to 
intercept launch arguments.

If you need better security, you could have the command ask for the 
password (e.g. using an applescript dialog) and maybe cache it in a 
file (readable only by current user) and maybe even have that file 
removed after n minutes.



From nednieuws at gmail.com  Sat Feb 26 15:53:28 2005
From: nednieuws at gmail.com (Nednieuws)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 16:53:28 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] encryption command advice for TM "journal"
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <6ac0899eb42812287b31def07e3f54de@gmail.com>

Op 26-feb-05 om 15:15 heeft Paul Nordstrom August het volgende 
geschreven:

> What I would like is an on-the-fly encryption -- i.e. select the text 
> and run a command to encrypt it (with a pre-set password). Then I 
> could store bank data etc securely.

Why not save it on an encrypted disk image? If you'd like portability 
to Windows machines, I don't know if that would work. If that's 
important, buy PGP.

-- 
Regards, Charles.



From robert_ullrey at mac.com  Sat Feb 26 22:50:40 2005
From: robert_ullrey at mac.com (Mr. Robert Ullrey)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:50:40 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] opening tmproj from xcode 
Message-ID: 

I was wondering if anyone has figured out how to set the preferences in
xcode to open a tmproj file in textmate? Of course I can control "open
with finder' to get it to open in textmate, but I am looking to set the
preferences to open all tmproj files with textmate as the external
editor. I can not find such a heading in xcodes preferences though. 


Cheers, 
Robert


From robert_ullrey at mac.com  Sat Feb 26 23:33:22 2005
From: robert_ullrey at mac.com (Mr. Robert Ullrey)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 15:33:22 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] Shell script for excalibur
Message-ID: 

One more help request. How can I write a better command that would check
a whole document, or selected text, and spell check it through
excalibur.

What I am using now is:

input: document
open -a excalibur "$TM_FILEPATH"
output: disgard

This calls excalibur with the file fine. I run the spell check and make
changes and then excalibur asks me to save it. When I return to TextMate
the page does not show the corrections until I click on it. Any further
suggestions for the code much appreciated. 

If anyone would like this added to the LateX bundle, I would be happy to
add it.


Cheers
Robert


From chris at m-audio.com  Sun Feb 27 02:48:02 2005
From: chris at m-audio.com (Chris Thomas)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:48:02 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] opening tmproj from xcode 
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <0181ABC5-16C6-492C-8BF3-B2EE6FCC4BB0@m-audio.com>

On Feb 26, 2005, at 2:50 PM, Mr. Robert Ullrey wrote:

> I was wondering if anyone has figured out how to set the preferences 
> in
> xcode to open a tmproj file in textmate? Of course I can control "open
> with finder' to get it to open in textmate, but I am looking to set 
> the
> preferences to open all tmproj files with textmate as the external
> editor. I can not find such a heading in xcodes preferences though.

Surely this just just work if you double-click the tmproj in Xcode's 
file list? What happens currently?

Chris



From robert_ullrey at mac.com  Sun Feb 27 03:09:34 2005
From: robert_ullrey at mac.com (Mr. Robert Ullrey)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 19:09:34 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] opening tmproj from xcode
In-Reply-To: <0181ABC5-16C6-492C-8BF3-B2EE6FCC4BB0@m-audio.com>
Message-ID: 


*********************************************************************
Chris Thomas wrote on [Saturday, February 26, 2005 -0800]


>   Surely this just just work if you double-click the tmproj in Xcode's 
>   file list? What happens currently?

Currently double-clicking opens the file in xcode's editor as a xml
file. Interesting, but wrong. 





From lang at langriley.com  Sun Feb 27 04:36:14 2005
From: lang at langriley.com (Lang Riley)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 20:36:14 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] change number of indent spaces for a particular language
Message-ID: <1D0FFBA3-8879-11D9-818D-000A95B635C0@langriley.com>

how do we change the number of spaces used for indenting? say for the 
Ruby language?

--
Best regards,
Lang Riley



From lang at langriley.com  Sun Feb 27 04:42:51 2005
From: lang at langriley.com (Lang Riley)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 20:42:51 -0800
Subject: [TxMt] anyone written a code beautifier script for ruby?
Message-ID: <0A041735-887A-11D9-818D-000A95B635C0@langriley.com>

One of the few things that I had in vim that I don't in tm, and that I 
miss, is a code beautifier.  I would like one for Ruby.  Does anyone 
have some solution for this (like a command or something)? It would be 
nice to be able to configure it too, like number of spaces for indents, 
stuff like that.  Undoubtedly, some Ruby guru has probably written a 
Ruby beautifier in Ruby : )

--
Best regards,
Lang Riley



From blalor at bravo5.org  Sun Feb 27 15:44:04 2005
From: blalor at bravo5.org (Brian Lalor)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 10:44:04 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] encryption command advice for TM "journal"
In-Reply-To: <6ac0899eb42812287b31def07e3f54de@gmail.com>
References: 
	<6ac0899eb42812287b31def07e3f54de@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <79727ee31344e05efdc83792f321bcdd@bravo5.org>

On Feb 26, 2005, at 10:53 AM, Nednieuws wrote:

> If that's important, buy PGP.

Or use gpg...

-- 
     __   ____
    / /  / __/ Brian Lalor
   / _ \/__ \  blalor at bravo5.org
  /_.__/____/  http://bravo5.org/



From paul at pjburgess.com  Sun Feb 27 19:06:28 2005
From: paul at pjburgess.com (Paul Burgess)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:06:28 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Create project from terminal ?
Message-ID: 

Hi all,

This may have been mentioned before somewhere, but before you tell me 
to RTFM or look at the Wiki let me say that: I have, and I couldn't 
find what i was looking for. So, here goes....

In his Ruby on Rails demonstration video clip, David Heinemeier Hansson 
launches TextMate into a kind of "new project" mode automatically by 
typing "e /folder/path" in the terminal. Genius ! But... how do I do 
this ? Is this a feature of TextMate available to the application 
itself ? For clarification of what I'm rambling on about, the Quicktime 
clip is here: http://media.nextangle.com/rails/rails_setup.mov ( 2mins 
18 seconds in ).

I wanted to ask this question here so others could benefit from the 
answer before I go pester David for the answer !

Thanks in advance,
Paul Burgess.



From bonelake at mac.com  Sun Feb 27 19:31:32 2005
From: bonelake at mac.com (Brad Miller)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 13:31:32 -0600
Subject: [TxMt] Create project from terminal ?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

Paul,

e must be an alias for something like  "open -a TextMate "

If you run the command open -a TextMate  /folder/path  You will get 
what you want.  You may also do the same thing with the tm command that 
is provided in the latest beta.

Anytime you try to edit a directory with textmate it opens the 
directory as a new project.

Brad

On Feb 27, 2005, at 1:06 PM, Paul Burgess wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> This may have been mentioned before somewhere, but before you tell me 
> to RTFM or look at the Wiki let me say that: I have, and I couldn't 
> find what i was looking for. So, here goes....
>
> In his Ruby on Rails demonstration video clip, David Heinemeier 
> Hansson launches TextMate into a kind of "new project" mode 
> automatically by typing "e /folder/path" in the terminal. Genius ! 
> But... how do I do this ? Is this a feature of TextMate available to 
> the application itself ? For clarification of what I'm rambling on 
> about, the Quicktime clip is here: 
> http://media.nextangle.com/rails/rails_setup.mov ( 2mins 18 seconds in 
> ).
>
> I wanted to ask this question here so others could benefit from the 
> answer before I go pester David for the answer !
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Paul Burgess.
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>
Brad Miller, PhD
Assistant Professor
Luther College
http://www.cs.luther.edu/~bmiller
jabber:  bnmnetp at jabber.org
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From cryo at cyanite.org  Sun Feb 27 19:33:39 2005
From: cryo at cyanite.org (Sune Foldager)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:33:39 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] encryption command advice for TM "journal"
In-Reply-To: <79727ee31344e05efdc83792f321bcdd@bravo5.org>
References: 
	<6ac0899eb42812287b31def07e3f54de@gmail.com>
	<79727ee31344e05efdc83792f321bcdd@bravo5.org>
Message-ID: 

On 27. feb 2005, at 16:44, Brian Lalor wrote:

> On Feb 26, 2005, at 10:53 AM, Nednieuws wrote:
>
>> If that's important, buy PGP.
> Or use gpg...

I wouldn't recomend pgp/gpg for stuff like this. Clearly a symetric 
approach will do fine, such as an encrypted loop-back filesystem mount 
(if Mac OS lets you do stuff like that).

-- 
Sune    ::    http://cyanite.org/
     "And now there is merely silence, silence,
         silence, saying all we did not know."



From paul at pjburgess.com  Sun Feb 27 19:35:57 2005
From: paul at pjburgess.com (Paul Burgess)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:35:57 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Create project from terminal ?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
Message-ID: <499d47618844c95dde4aa6f749f2feba@pjburgess.com>


Fantastic. Exactly what I was looking for, and with no shell scripting 
involved !
Thanks Brad.


On 27 Feb 2005, at 19:31, Brad Miller wrote:

> Paul,
>
> e must be an alias for something like  "open -a TextMate "
>
> If you run the command open -a TextMate  /folder/path  You will get 
> what you want.  You may also do the same thing with the tm command 
> that is provided in the latest beta.
>
> Anytime you try to edit a directory with textmate it opens the 
> directory as a new project.
>
> Brad
>
> On Feb 27, 2005, at 1:06 PM, Paul Burgess wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This may have been mentioned before somewhere, but before you tell me 
>> to RTFM or look at the Wiki let me say that: I have, and I couldn't 
>> find what i was looking for. So, here goes....
>>
>> In his Ruby on Rails demonstration video clip, David Heinemeier 
>> Hansson launches TextMate into a kind of "new project" mode 
>> automatically by typing "e /folder/path" in the terminal. Genius ! 
>> But... how do I do this ? Is this a feature of TextMate available to 
>> the application itself ? For clarification of what I'm rambling on 
>> about, the Quicktime clip is here: 
>> http://media.nextangle.com/rails/rails_setup.mov ( 2mins 18 seconds 
>> in ).
>>
>> I wanted to ask this question here so others could benefit from the 
>> answer before I go pester David for the answer !
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Paul Burgess.
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________________
>> For new threads USE THIS: textmate at lists.macromates.com
>> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
>> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>>
> Brad Miller, PhD
> Assistant Professor
> Luther College
> http://www.cs.luther.edu/~bmiller
> jabber:  bnmnetp at jabber.org
> ______________________________________________________________________
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From chrisjenkins at mac.com  Mon Feb 28 10:36:17 2005
From: chrisjenkins at mac.com (Chris Jenkins)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:36:17 +0000
Subject: [TxMt] Italic in syntax definitions
Message-ID: 

This is an issue I encountered using the built in syntax definition for
Python - I don't like antialiasing so I have it switched off, unfortunately
the Python syntax uses italic format in comments, which looks appalling
without AA. I don't really want to switch AA on as that affects every
language, and I don't want to have to edit the Python bundle to remove the
italics. Is there a proposed solution to this? Would the style sheet
approach to syntax files help?

Chris Jenkins



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From torsten.becker at gmail.com  Mon Feb 28 10:42:33 2005
From: torsten.becker at gmail.com (Torsten Becker)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:42:33 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Italic in syntax definitions
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 28 Feb 10:36 (+0000), Chris Jenkins wrote:
> This is an issue I encountered using the built in syntax definition for
> Python - I don't like antialiasing so I have it switched off, unfortunately
> the Python syntax uses italic format in comments, which looks appalling
> without AA. I don't really want to switch AA on as that affects every
> language, and I don't want to have to edit the Python bundle to remove the
> italics. Is there a proposed solution to this? Would the style sheet
> approach to syntax files help?

I think the new fancy Stylesheet thing will fix that problem.  If you
want a solution before the beta that will include this, the only way
to switch italics off is to edit the Syntax plists. (should be a easy
replace over the whole syntax file from italic to [nothing])

-- 
Torsten Becker


From torsten.becker at gmail.com  Mon Feb 28 10:48:29 2005
From: torsten.becker at gmail.com (Torsten Becker)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:48:29 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Italic in syntax definitions
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
Message-ID: 

Or you use one of the attached Syntax Files.  (r388, so its lastest
from the Repository with this fixed, but not tested)

-- 
Torsten Becker
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From ben at incomumdesign.com  Mon Feb 28 15:06:31 2005
From: ben at incomumdesign.com (Ben Jackson)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:06:31 -0300
Subject: [TxMt] Rectangular selection with keyboard?
Message-ID: <42233377.8020501@incomumdesign.com>

I was selecting text using the shift/option/arrow keys today and at some 
point my selection turned rectangular! However to my dismay I'm unable 
to figure out what I did that allowed me to switch over. What's the secret?

-- 
Ben Jackson
Diretor de Desenvolvimento
INCOMUM Design & Conceito

+55 (21) 9997-0593
ben at incomumdesign.com
http://www.incomumdesign.com



From torsten.becker at gmail.com  Mon Feb 28 15:57:04 2005
From: torsten.becker at gmail.com (Torsten Becker)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 16:57:04 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Rectangular selection with keyboard?
In-Reply-To: <42233377.8020501@incomumdesign.com>
References: <42233377.8020501@incomumdesign.com>
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 28 Feb 12:06 (-0300), Ben Jackson wrote:
> I was selecting text using the shift/option/arrow keys today and at some
> point my selection turned rectangular! However to my dismay I'm unable
> to figure out what I did that allowed me to switch over. What's the secret?

You can select Text with Shift pressed and if you then press
Alt/Option you get in Column Mode, I am not sure if this answers your
Question.


-- 
Torsten Becker


From allan at macromates.com  Mon Feb 28 16:30:08 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:30:08 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] opening tmproj from xcode
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <374472de075bdf3202825595cc31ebe1@macromates.com>

On Feb 27, 2005, at 4:09, Mr. Robert Ullrey wrote:

>>   Surely this just just work if you double-click the tmproj in Xcode's
>>   file list? What happens currently?
> Currently double-clicking opens the file in xcode's editor as a xml
> file. Interesting, but wrong.

I haven't tested it, but try to go to Xcode preferences and under File 
types set the extenral editor for File -> text -> text.xml to TextMate. 
Of course then all XML will probably open in TextMate.



From allan at macromates.com  Mon Feb 28 16:30:54 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:30:54 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] change number of indent spaces for a particular language
In-Reply-To: <1D0FFBA3-8879-11D9-818D-000A95B635C0@langriley.com>
References: <1D0FFBA3-8879-11D9-818D-000A95B635C0@langriley.com>
Message-ID: 

On Feb 27, 2005, at 5:36, Lang Riley wrote:

> how do we change the number of spaces used for indenting? say for the 
> Ruby language?

You mean changing the tab size? You can do that in the View menu (Tab 
Size sub menu).



From allan at macromates.com  Mon Feb 28 16:34:30 2005
From: allan at macromates.com (Allan Odgaard)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:34:30 +0100
Subject: [TxMt] Shell script for excalibur
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <4332a3eb4a5913cdb019cafc17522048@macromates.com>

On Feb 27, 2005, at 0:33, Mr. Robert Ullrey wrote:

> One more help request. How can I write a better command that would 
> check
> a whole document, or selected text, and spell check it through
> excalibur.

I don't know excalibur, but what advantages does it have over the 
system spell checker that TextMate currently uses? If the only 
advantage is that it skips the markup, then this should be solved in 
beta 6/7 where it'll (amongst others) be possible to selectively 
disable spell checking for elements matched by the syntax definition.



From textmate at mimicry.org  Mon Feb 28 22:26:30 2005
From: textmate at mimicry.org (textmate at mimicry.org)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:26:30 -0500
Subject: [TxMt] opening tmproj from xcode
In-Reply-To: <374472de075bdf3202825595cc31ebe1@macromates.com>
References: 
	<374472de075bdf3202825595cc31ebe1@macromates.com>
Message-ID: 


On 28 Feb, 2005, at 11:30 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote:

> On Feb 27, 2005, at 4:09, Mr. Robert Ullrey wrote:
>
>>>   Surely this just just work if you double-click the tmproj in 
>>> Xcode's
>>>   file list? What happens currently?
>> Currently double-clicking opens the file in xcode's editor as a xml
>> file. Interesting, but wrong.
>
> I haven't tested it, but try to go to Xcode preferences and under File 
> types set the extenral editor for File -> text -> text.xml to 
> TextMate. Of course then all XML will probably open in TextMate.

 
has some information on how to customize Xcode's file types list

-John