[TextMate] ftp question

[marc]

On 07/10/2004, at 4:33 AM, Nick Hristov wrote:

> Why not just do an ftp mount through the finder?

Likewise for WebDav, when behind a firewall -- this is how I edit some 
sites, with editors that include an FTP client... in a lot of ways, in 
the short term, I think it's better to rely on an external transfer 
client, esp, with the External Editor scheme that allows an editor to 
issue a save command to the client in the background...

IMHO switching between an external client, and an integrated client in 
a separate window, are very similar... there are also a number of 
advantages to a specialised transport client, and it's the whole new 
combined Mac/Unixy mantra of small, specialised apps working well 
together, this is a trend reaching well back in the Mac experience...

...I'm somewhat wary of a bit of a monolithic app, and MDI (read: tabs) 
trends in recent times, mainly due to the increased ease of 
incorporating OSS libraries into OS X apps, and prominent application 
examples.

Having said all of that, there *are* advantages to an integrated 
client, namely to do with tracking file name and location changes, and 
such things as interacting with recently edited files, interacting with 
CMS and source control, to name a couple.

Hang on... doesn't integrated FTP suggest some focus on HTML editor 
requirements...? If so, I'd vote for more code-related work, and 
letting me work with my existing tools: Finder, Anarchy/FTPeel (also 
has FTP mirrors) CSSEdit, Photoshop, Camino etc.


marc

: )

> Nick
>
> On Oct 6, 2004, at 11:58 AM, Lucas K. Mathis wrote:
>
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>>>>> I hope ftp-support is added soon, not just being able to edit a
>>>>> remote file, but actually being able to associate a project with an
>>>>> ftp account.
>>>> Is there any reason why you don't use an actual FTP application for
>>>> this? Interarchy has some awesome features for this kind of work.
>>>> What I do right now is this: For each Project in TextMate, I have an
>>>> FTP Disk in Interarchy. When I open a Project, I mount the FTP Disk.
>>>> Whenever I change something in TextMate, it's being uploaded
>>>> automatically to the FTP server.
>>> The reason I don't want to use an actual FTP application is that I
>>> don't want to incessantly switch between the editor and the
>>> ftp-application.
>>
>> Using FTP disks, you don't have to. Of course, it's not quite as nice 
>> as
>> absolute automation, but it's pretty close. And it could probably be
>> totally automated using AppleScript by having a script that opens both
>> the Project and the Interarchy FTP disk.
>>
>> Once both are open, you don't have to do anything in Interarchy 
>> anymore.
>> It will pick up on any changes you make in TextMate (or any other
>> application) all by itself.
>>
>>
>>> The interarchy feature you mention sounds pretty nice, and in fact
>>> I'll download Interarchy right now, because it does sound sweet, but
>>> having it integrated with the editor would be even better. By the
>>> way, something like that isn't possible with Transmit (which I
>>> currently use), right?
>>
>> No, Transmit doesn't do anything like that as far as I know. FTP disks
>> are a unique feature of Interarchy.
>>
>> lucas
>>
>> - --
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