On my new MBP, TextMate 2 displays horizontal black lines. Selecting the text in the are makes them go away, but they are very annoying.
-- Ben Smith Founder / CSA WBP SYSTEMS http://www.wbpsystems.com
Totally OT, but do you think the new mbp is worth the price (well of course you do, you bought one), what was the reason to decide to go for it?
On Jun 28, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Ben Smith wrote:
On my new MBP, TextMate 2 displays horizontal black lines. Selecting the text in the are makes them go away, but they are very annoying.
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I will buy one when all MBPs have retina display.
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Rolf Langenhuijzen < rolf.langenhuijzen@xs4all.nl> wrote:
Totally OT, but do you think the new mbp is worth the price (well of course you do, you bought one), what was the reason to decide to go for it?
On Jun 28, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Ben Smith wrote:
On my new MBP, TextMate 2 displays horizontal black lines. Selecting the text in the are makes them go away, but they are very annoying.
-- Ben Smith Founder / CSA WBP SYSTEMS http://www.wbpsystems.com
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the fact that storage and ram are now soldered to the machine is enough to never get a MBP again. So not only upgrading is much more expensive(since you have buy the extra storage and ram from apple when you purchase the unit at their absurd prices) you won't be able to extend the life of the unit by adding more storage or ram later down the road with third party hardware.
So that, with the price of the unit, and the removal of the 17" from their line, I must say this will probably be my last mac…
thats just me, thats why I'm curious to see what people are saying about these new MBPs
On Jun 28, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Rolf Langenhuijzen wrote:
Totally OT, but do you think the new mbp is worth the price (well of course you do, you bought one), what was the reason to decide to go for it?
On Jun 28, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Ben Smith wrote:
On my new MBP, TextMate 2 displays horizontal black lines. Selecting the text in the are makes them go away, but they are very annoying.
-- Ben Smith Founder / CSA WBP SYSTEMS http://www.wbpsystems.com
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I'll jump on this because I started going OT to begin with :) … not many have those retina laptops anyway so it's hard to compare/debug :))
What I usually do is sort-of put it a lot of ram when I get it.. then after 2-4 years (depending on how much you use it) it's time to get a new one probably.. I use a lot of pc's at work still and I don't update those as well, maybe the ram, but that is just because I start at 4GB and then upgrade to 8 GB for example… but really you want a new processor anyway and a brand new hd super-screen and all that… so you end up using it 1 more year and then get a new one.
Tiny laptops = other ways of fabricating.. so I think the rest will follow too in the end (for slimmer machines), even though it kinda sucks. Fingers crossed it doesn't die :)
Rolf
On Jun 28, 2012, at 9:46 PM, William Pickens wrote:
the fact that storage and ram are now soldered to the machine is enough to never get a MBP again. So not only upgrading is much more expensive(since you have buy the extra storage and ram from apple when you purchase the unit at their absurd prices) you won't be able to extend the life of the unit by adding more storage or ram later down the road with third party hardware.
So that, with the price of the unit, and the removal of the 17" from their line, I must say this will probably be my last mac…
thats just me, thats why I'm curious to see what people are saying about these new MBPs
On Jun 28, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Rolf Langenhuijzen wrote:
Totally OT, but do you think the new mbp is worth the price (well of course you do, you bought one), what was the reason to decide to go for it?
On Jun 28, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Ben Smith wrote:
On my new MBP, TextMate 2 displays horizontal black lines. Selecting the text in the are makes them go away, but they are very annoying.
-- Ben Smith Founder / CSA WBP SYSTEMS http://www.wbpsystems.com
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Hey Folks -
On the OT part of this thread I will only say the following because Macromates may not want this discussion on their thread: I've had the machine for about 24 hours, but already looking at my iMac display (or any other display) comparably looks like garbage. There are certain drawbacks to the machine (the upgrade issues outlined above), but for me I'm very happy with my decision.
Now to the issue at hand. If MM would like me to do something to try capture the issue, please let me know. I know it is hard to diagnose when you can't see it. I think it has something to do with the collapse section carat, but I can't be sure. I'm also realizing that *anything* that forces a repainting of the screen (select, resize window) seems to get the line to disappear. The issue seems to be unique to textmate. It doesn't happen in bywords,texpad or MM Composer (the other text apps I use: obviously for other purposes)
Ben
-- Ben Smith Founder / CSA WBP SYSTEMS http://www.wbpsystems.com
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Rolf Langenhuijzen rolf.langenhuijzen@xs4all.nl wrote:
I'll jump on this because I started going OT to begin with :) … not many have those retina laptops anyway so it's hard to compare/debug :))
What I usually do is sort-of put it a lot of ram when I get it.. then after 2-4 years (depending on how much you use it) it's time to get a new one probably.. I use a lot of pc's at work still and I don't update those as well, maybe the ram, but that is just because I start at 4GB and then upgrade to 8 GB for example… but really you want a new processor anyway and a brand new hd super-screen and all that… so you end up using it 1 more year and then get a new one.
Tiny laptops = other ways of fabricating.. so I think the rest will follow too in the end (for slimmer machines), even though it kinda sucks. Fingers crossed it doesn't die :)
Rolf
On Jun 28, 2012, at 9:46 PM, William Pickens wrote:
the fact that storage and ram are now soldered to the machine is enough to never get a MBP again. So not only upgrading is much more expensive(since you have buy the extra storage and ram from apple when you purchase the unit at their absurd prices) you won't be able to extend the life of the unit by adding more storage or ram later down the road with third party hardware.
So that, with the price of the unit, and the removal of the 17" from their line, I must say this will probably be my last mac…
thats just me, thats why I'm curious to see what people are saying about these new MBPs
On Jun 28, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Rolf Langenhuijzen wrote:
Totally OT, but do you think the new mbp is worth the price (well of course you do, you bought one), what was the reason to decide to go for it?
On Jun 28, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Ben Smith wrote:
On my new MBP, TextMate 2 displays horizontal black lines. Selecting the text in the are makes them go away, but they are very annoying.
-- Ben Smith Founder / CSA WBP SYSTEMS http://www.wbpsystems.com
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On 28/06/2012, at 22.09, Ben Smith wrote:
[…] If MM would like me to do something to try capture the issue, please let me know.
Thanks for the report, I am able to reproduce the issue using the HiDPI mode of QuartzDebug and will let you know when there is a fix for testing (I plan to debug this later tonight).
The current test build¹ (r9121) fixes the lines when I am testing TextMate on Lion using the HiDPI modes made available via Quartz Debug.
I see the active tab is filled with the wrong color (in the HiDPI test mode), this appears to be a bug in AppKit I am unable to workaround. For anyone using an actual retina Mac, can you let me know if the bug is also present here?
¹ Available by holding option when clicking Check Now in Preferences → Software Update.
Allan -
Thanks so much for fixing that. The tabs look fine to me. However as color is not my strong suit I'm sending an image.
-- Ben Smith Founder / CSA WBP SYSTEMS http://www.wbpsystems.com
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Allan Odgaard mailinglist@textmate.org wrote:
The current test build¹ (r9121) fixes the lines when I am testing TextMate on Lion using the HiDPI modes made available via Quartz Debug.
I see the active tab is filled with the wrong color (in the HiDPI test mode), this appears to be a bug in AppKit I am unable to workaround. For anyone using an actual retina Mac, can you let me know if the bug is also present here?
¹ Available by holding option when clicking Check Now in Preferences → Software Update.
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Jeez Ben, that images is sharp as what not…nice
On Jul 4, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Ben Smith wrote:
Allan -
Thanks so much for fixing that. The tabs look fine to me. However as color is not my strong suit I'm sending an image.
-- Ben Smith Founder / CSA WBP SYSTEMS http://www.wbpsystems.com
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Allan Odgaard mailinglist@textmate.org wrote:
The current test build¹ (r9121) fixes the lines when I am testing TextMate on Lion using the HiDPI modes made available via Quartz Debug.
I see the active tab is filled with the wrong color (in the HiDPI test mode), this appears to be a bug in AppKit I am unable to workaround. For anyone using an actual retina Mac, can you let me know if the bug is also present here?
¹ Available by holding option when clicking Check Now in Preferences → Software Update.
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On 2012-07-04 05:58, Allan Odgaard wrote:
The current test build¹ (r9121) fixes the lines when I am testing TextMate on Lion using the HiDPI modes made available via Quartz Debug.
The release notes don't seem to be updated from r9113. Is there anything in r9121 besides the HiDPI fix? (BTW, it would be nice to have the date and/or build number in the most recent entry of the release notes as well as previous entries.)
rolf.langenhuijzen@xs4all.nl writes:
Jeez Ben, that images is sharp as what not…nice
Well, sure, all zoomed in like that. But when I shrink it down to normal size it's no different than a regular display. This "Retina" thing is clearly just wishful thinking.
:-)
On 04/07/2012, at 15.56, Ben Smith wrote:
Thanks so much for fixing that. The tabs look fine to me. However as color is not my strong suit I'm sending an image.
Thanks, they are indeed wrong, but it will be even more noticeable if you make the window inactive.
Turns out this is a known bug though, so I’ll just leave it be for now: http://openradar.appspot.com/11685486
Btw: There were some new render errors with the test build, a new one is now available (r9145) which fixes this.
On 05/07/2012, at 15.56, Steve King wrote:
The current test build¹ (r9121) fixes the lines […]
The release notes don't seem to be updated from r9113.
Right, test builds tend to come with a private note to the tester (it is meant for) about what he is supposed to test, I only update the release notes when I do deployment builds.
I expect a real build (with updated release notes) to appear later today.
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